California’s Rambo: Christopher Jordan Dorner (Open Thread)

© Miri WTPOTUS February 08, 2013

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We haven’t yet discussed the case of Christopher Jordan Dorner, who’s the subject of a manhunt in California. Here’s some background: [emphasis added to quotes]

Arguably the most wanted man in America, fired police Officer Christopher Jordan Dorner may well be in hiding — plotting his next move after allegedly killing three people. Officers toting high-powered weapons fanned out Friday across thousands of square miles, searching for their former colleague. …

The 270-pound former Navy lieutenant promised to bring “unconventional and asymmetrical warfare” to police officers and their families, calling it the “last resort” to clear his name and get back at a department that he claims mistreated him.Dorner, 33, is wanted in the killing of two people in Irvine, California, on Sunday and in the shooting of three Los Angeles-area police officers Thursday, which killed one of them. …

Despite the killings, Dorner seemed to be getting some sympathy. Where police see a violent killer, others saw Dorner as kind of an epic anti-hero waging war against an institution they see as corrupt.

Not only have the statist, leftist lamestream media not covered this story very thoroughly until now (it happened last weekend), but they also seem upset that the alleged perp does not fit the profile that they would prefer.

First of all, he’s black. Although he’s a veteran, which fits their “crazed veteran” meme, Dorner’s also an Obamaphile, who’s PRO-GUN CONTROL as well as ANTI-BIRTHER.  As the Gateway Pundit wrote:

Another liberal freak goes on a deadly shooting spree. Chris Dorner, the suspected mass-murdering cop killer on the run in California, is a big supporter of leftist leaders and liberal media hacks. Before he went on his killing spree he wrote a 22-page manifesto full of praise for leftist leaders in media and politics.

Let’s not forget another liberal freak who’s in the news this week.  That would be Floyd Corkins, a black, possibly gay, shooter who doesn’t fit their preferred narrative and so is given many fewer column inches in the leftist, statist lamestream media.

After years of thinking it over, Floyd Corkins finally had a plan.

He’d bought a gun and learned how to use it. He’d loaded three magazines. And he had stopped by Chick-fil-A to pick up 15 sandwiches, which he planned to smear in the dying faces of staffers he expected to kill at the Family Research Council in Washington.

It would be a statement, he said, “against the people who work in that building,” according to documents filed in U.S. District Court, where Corkins pleaded guilty on Wednesday to three charges related to the August shooting at the conservative policy group.

Corkins told Judge Richard Roberts that he hoped to intimidate gay rights opponents. … 

Corkins — who had chosen the research council as his target after finding it listed as an anti-gay group on the website of the Southern Poverty Law Center — had planned to stride into the building and open fire on the people inside in an effort to kill as many as possible, he told investigators, according to the court documents.

With regard to Dorner, Breitbart, via the Gateway Pundit, opined:

What’s being reported as Mr. Dorner’s manifesto not only endorses Hillary Clinton for president in 2016 and vigorously defends Barack Obama and the Democrats’ current gun control push, he also savages the NRA’s Wayne LaPierre and expresses all kinds of unabiding [admiration] for some of the biggest stars in the left-wing media — by name.

Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work and follow Cronkite’s lead. I hold many of you in the same regard as Tom Brokaw and the late Peter Jennings. …

Willie Geist, you’re a talented and charismatic journalist.

Gun control advocates, including most of the leftist, statist lamestream media, were SO HOPING, you just know it, that California’s very own Rambo would be a NRA member, a conservative, perhaps a Tea Partier, and a Republican. He doesn’t fit the “narrative”, so they must ignore the truth, the WHOLE TRUTH, and nothing but the truth.

How about the fact that the Keystone Cops in CA actually SHOT innocent people because they LOOKED LIKE Dorner? Dorner, if anything, is a poster boy (no racism intended; it’s a well-known and apt metaphor) for better psychological screening of both military recruits as well as police recruits.

Don’t they psychologically screen people before they train them in marksmanship and “assymetrical warfare”?

I was reminded this morning that Piers Morgan, one of Dorner’s favorite pundits, went berserk on Governor Sarah Palin for using a target in campaign material. He called for her to apologize to Gabrielle Giffords, as if Palin had something to do with the tragedy that befell Giffords.

So now, will Morgan apologize to the families of Dorner’s victims?  Has the Southern Poverty Law Center apologized to Corkins’s victims?  I think not.


Open Thread

Update: 02/11/13  After reading his manifesto, I changed the post.  He claims that he is NOT a Christian, so I rewrote the sentence that mentioned the “clings to guns and religion meme.”

235 responses to “California’s Rambo: Christopher Jordan Dorner (Open Thread)

    • That’s very strange:

      “Anti-NMDA (N-methyl D-aspartate) receptor encephalitis is an acute form of encephalitis, potentially lethal but with high probability for recovery, caused by autoimmune reaction against NR1- and NR2-subunits of the glutamate NMDA receptor.[1] Different descriptions and syndromal designations for this disease existed in the medical literature prior to 2007, when the cause was established and it received its current name.[2] The disease is associated with tumours, mostly teratomas of the ovaries, and thus is considered a paraneoplastic syndrome. However, there are a substantial number of cases with no detectable cancerous tissue.

      According to a review of 100 cases in The Lancet,[3] 91 of the 100 patients were women, mean age of all patients numbered 23 years (5-76 range); of the 98 patients that underwent an oncological screening, 58 had a tumour, predominantly an ovarian teratoma. All patients presented with psychiatric symptoms or memory problems; 76 of them suffered from seizures, 88 developed unresponsiveness (decreased consciousness), 86 – dyskinesias, 69 – autonomic instability, and 66 – hypoventilation. Tumour treatment associated with better prognosis; 75 patients got well without residual problems and 25 died or were left with severe deficits.”

      I have to wonder about the role of aspartame in this syndrome, if it really is on the rise.

  1. If you guys get a chance, watch the movie Gifted Hands, which is about Dr. Benjamin Carson. That guy needs to be our president.

  2. New US commander takes the helm in Afghanistan
    February 10, 2013

    KABUL, Afghanistan – Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford took over Sunday as the new and probably last commander of all U.S. and international forces in Afghanistan.

    The American-led NATO coalition is entering the final stretch of its participation in a war that will have lasted more than 13 years when most foreign combat troops pull out at the end of 2014.

    Dunford took over leadership of the International Security Assistance Force, and a smaller but separate detachment of American troops, from Marine Gen. John Allen, who had led them for the past 19 months.

  3. US senators propose assassination court to screen drone targets
    February 10, 2013 Snip

    It sounds like an Orwellian idea from a futuristic sci-fi movie. Government officials gather in a secret courtroom, poring over documents and weighing whether to approve the fly-by killing of a suspected terrorist.

    If the judges say yes, the target dies. If not, the target lives.

    But U.S. senators are now floating the idea of an assassination court as a way to rein in the ever-expanding drone program — a secretive operation that, as it is, sounds like thriller fiction, but isn’t.

    The idea was bandied about during Thursday’s confirmation hearing for CIA director nominee John Brennan, who fueled the talk by saying he thinks the concept is “worthy of discussion.” The nominee, as a vocal supporter of the targeted-killing program, has come under scrutiny for what some lawmakers see as the administration’s unchecked power to kill, even if the target is an American citizen.
    Sen. Angus King, I-Maine, said his concern is that too much power is vested in the Executive Branch when it comes to targeted killings. “I understand you can’t have co-commanders in chief, but having the executive being the … prosecutor, the judge, the jury and the executioner all in one is very contrary to the traditions and the laws of this country,he said.

    • Sounds unconstitutional to me. Extra-constitutional? Who thinks this is a good idea? Star Chamber. Maybe they can just convene the Senate and have a good ole Roman thumbs up or thumbs down.

      This is a VERY HOPEFUL SIGN.

      Jonathan Turley, a well-known legal scholar and professor at George Washington University, told that congressional action is “clearly warranted.”

      President Obama has become the president that Richard Nixon always wanted to be. In the face of an imperial president, it is Congress’ duty under the Constitution to do whatever it can to check such an abuse of power,” he said in an email.

      However, Turley expressed concern that a new court would “legitimate the claim of inherent authority by the president to kill citizens without charge or judicial review.

      “A formal process, even if accepted by the White House, could be viewed as a concession that such power exists,” he said. “It would be a lethal version of FISA where constitutional provisions are set aside in favor of a largely meaningless process of review.””

      I think “Professor Turley” is beginning to see the light. THE CONSTITUTION IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND. Neither any president nor any Congress can overrule, ignore, or change the Constitution. To try to do so is, dare I say it, TREASON. ALL of them have sworn an oath to DEFEND and UPHOLD the Constitution, not do an end run around it. THANK YOU, finally, Professor Turley. If only libs like you had seen the light in 2008.

      • Brennan on Thursday expressed a willingness to consider an assassination bureau, while stressing that such a court would be different from anything else in existence — since the drone strikes, according to him, are only green-lighted to prevent an attack, and not to exact retribution for a prior attack.

        Our judicial tradition is that a court of law is used to determine one’s guilt or innocence for past actions, which is very different from the decisions that are made on the battlefield, as well as actions that are taken against terrorists,” he said.”

        This is what comes from allowing the likes of Brennan, Holder, and Barry to split hairs and allowing the likes of both Clintons to talk about how there’s “no evidence of that.” See what he’s doing?

        The Constitution set up the judicial system to determine guilt or innocence after the fact, but he seems to think that in absence of any prohibition saying that the potus CAN’T kill US citizens BEFORE they can commit any crime, then it’s allowed for the potus to decide it as part of his role as Commander in Chief. They will “find” that power in the “penumbra” of the Constitution. No, sir, Mr. Brennan. Powers not specified in the Constitution are reserved to the PEOPLE and to the States. The president has NO POWER to be judge, jury, and executioner of any US citizens, based upon his BELIEF that the person may endanger “American lives.” The FIRST RIGHT given by God is the right to LIFE.

      • Sounds unconstitutional to me too Miri. 😯

  4. Crimes are listed and the time is now before the Usurper can do more damage to our country.

    You asked for it: Obama impeachment
    The high crimes and misdemeanors the media won’t tell you
    Published: 1 min ago

    Should Barack Hussein Obama, the 44th president of the United States, be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors?

    It’s not a question yet being asked or debated in the Big Media. But it is a question being addressed by some members of Congress, by an increasing number of pundits by activists on the left and the right – and for more than one or two alleged constitutional offenses.

    Some of those who have broached the subject include Reps. Trent Franks, R-Ariz.; Walter Jones, R-N.C.; Trey Radel, R-Fla.; Steve Stockman; former Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas; former Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio; Fox News’ Mike Huckabee; former assistant U.S. attorney Andrew McCarthy; left-leaning investigative reporter Dave Lindorff; talk-radio host Mark Levin; former House Speaker and presidential candidate Newt Gingrich; author and columnist Pat Buchanan and others.

    Article II, Section 4, of the U.S. Constitution states, “The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

    The U.S. House of Representatives has the power to commence impeachment proceedings. If the House adopts an impeachment resolution, the U.S. Senate conducts a trial and determines whether to convict or acquit. If an official is convicted, he or she is removed from the position and may be barred from holding office again. The official may also face criminal prosecution.
    “Basically, Obama is claiming the right to be the prosecutor on the grounds that the whole world is a war zone. I think it’s an impeachable offense because he’s neither using the civilian courts nor is he bringing them before our military courts. What the president has done is simply defined the whole world as a battleground.

    • I can’t believe that those leftist jerks had the GALL to criticize Dr. Carson for simply speaking his own mind and in a respectful way, too. Of course, we heard these same people criticizing Obama for disrespecting the SCOTUS judges at the SOTU speech, right? And for insulting Romney and Ryan to their faces. Right? And for flipping Hillary the bird. Right? And how could I have forgotten what he did to Trump?

      • I like how he summed up:

        “The Office of the President demands a certain amount of respect, for sure, even when the occupant of that office is a communist devil hellbent on destroying the American way of life as we know it, but questioning the president is not a sign of rudeness or disrespect. Indeed it’s our duty as Americans to question everything the president does and hold him accountable for his actions.

        As Americans, many of us have neglected our duty. Busy with life in general, we have failed to hold all of our public officials accountable. Now we all sit around bitching about a debt so unsustainable the entire nation is on the verge of total collapse, and wonder how we got to the point that corruption at all levels of government is at unprecedented levels.

        Shame on the left for trying to elevate Obama to “god” status, but shame on the rest of us as well for not making the point to Obama, and ALL politicians that they work for us, not the other way around.”

    • I haven’t read her blog for a while, but she also mentions Carson:

      ” … Let me end on an optimistic note. Give yourself a half-hour at some point today, and watch this remarkable video, of Dr. Benjamin Carson speaking at a recent National Prayer Breakfast attended by the president and vice-president, their spouses, the new Secretary of State. After quoting proverbs, he says some bold things, dares to criticize the repressive habit of self-censorship we have fallen into thanks to political correctness. … He says it all right in the face of the people who really need to hear it, but we all do. …”

      Dr. Carson is a certified HIT! I wish he’d consider a career in politics. I don’t see how he could lose.

  5. Cheney: Obama Nominees Are ‘Second Rate People’
    February 10, 2013 Snip

    Former Vice President Dick Cheney said Saturday night that President Barack Obama has jeopardized U.S. national security by nominating substandard candidates for key cabinet posts and by degrading the U.S. military. “The performance now of Barack Obama as he staffs up the national security team for the second term is dismal,” Cheney said in comments to about 300 members of the Wyoming Republican Party.

    Cheney, a Wyoming native, said it was vital to the nation’s national security that “good folks” hold the positions of secretary of state, CIA director and secretary of defense. “Frankly, what he has appointed are second-rate people,” he said.

  6. Hagel in his own words – from the nomination hearing.

    • Sen. Graham Vows to Block Confirmation of Brennan, Hagel
      Feb. 10

      Sen. Lindsey Graham said Sunday on CBS’ “Face the Nation” he will block the confirmation of both John Brennan and Chuck Hagel until President Barack Obama explains his actions the night four Americans were killed in Benghazi, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens.

      “No confirmation without information,” Graham told host Bob Schieffer. “I don’t think we should allow Brennan to go forward for the CIA directorship, or Hagel to be confirmed for secretary of defense, until the White House gives us an accounting.”

      The South Carolina Republican chastised the administration for “complete system failure” in response to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2012.

      “I don’t know what the president did that evening,” Graham said. “I don’t know if he ever called anyone. This was incredibly mismanaged, and what we know now, it seems to be a very disengaged president. What did he do that night? That’s not unfair.”

      Graham also criticized then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. “When Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she had a clear-eyed assessment of the threats in Libya, that proved, after this hearing, not to be true,” he said. “She was blind. The president was just disengaged and the Department of Defense never launched one airplane to help these folks for seven-and-a-half hours. This is complete system failure, and I’m going to get to the bottom of it.”

  7. Did Christopher Dorner Get A Raw Deal From The LAPD?
    Read the Court’s Opinion in his Disciplinary Appeal and Judge for Yourself
    By: No. 45 (Diary) | February 9th, 2013

    The manifesto of former LAPD officer and accused cop-killer Christopher Dorner contains detailed allegations of a culture of corruption within the LAPD. ”The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse,” Dorner wrote.
    The court opinion in Dorner’s appeal of his firing.

  8. February 8th, Trevor teases about a congressperson being exposed soon.

  9. Social Security Issued TWO Cards to Thousands of Noncitizens
    Feb. 10

    The Social Security Administration Inspector General has found that 4,317 people were able to obtain two Social Security numbers — even though none of them were American citizens.“We identified 4,317 instances where the Numident record of two SSNs assigned to noncitizens contained matching first, middle, and last names; dates and places of birth; gender; and fathers’ and mothers’ names,” the Inspector General (IG) reported. Numident stands for Numerical Identification System and is the master file of applications for Social Security numbers.

    The errors occurred between 1981 and 2011 because the SSA did not cross-check the names of the people applying for an additional Social Security number. “In each case, SSA had not cross-referred the records, indicating that SSA either was not aware it assigned two SSNs to the same noncitizen or it believed the number-holders were not actually the same person.”

    The IG launched an audit after a noncitizen was convicted of defrauding the government out of $55,000 in Social Security and federal housing payments by using two Social Security numbers. The IG report said: “The individual concealed her earnings by obtaining and using two SSNs, one for employment purposes and the other to obtain low-income benefits through the Department of Housing and Urban Development and SSA.”

    The IG found 514 cases where noncitizens had reported work under both numbers, making them appear eligible to receive twice as much in federal benefits. In 80 of those cases, at least 10 years of earnings had been reported under both numbers.

    Incredibly, most multiple cards were issued by the same office. In nearly half of those cases, the second card was issued less than a week after the first card, including 251 on the same day, despite the use of duplicate information. In 58 cases, the SSA issued two cards despite the fact that both applications contained the same Alien Registration Number (ARN), the identifier issued to noncitizens.

    “SSA controls designed to prevent issuance of multiple SSNs to noncitizens have been effective at preventing these occurrences, and the number of such cases has declined significantly over the past 30 years,” the report concluded. “However, SSA’s records indicated that, on occasion, the controls did not prevent the unauthorized issuance of multiple SSNs to noncitizens.

    “Noncitizens who obtain multiple SSNs have used, or could use, the SSNs to defraud federal benefit programs.” [Obama’s Auntie Zuituni and Uncle Omar have them! How? ]

    Insider Report email

    • If most multiple cards were issued by the same office, WHAT office was that? Inquiring minds need to know….

    • WHY are aliens getting even ONE Social Security number? Does the SSA check for LEGAL STATUS before issuing those ARNs? ARNs. Just think about how SIMPLE it would be to find illegals. If they have no ARN, then they’re illegal.

      Imagine the fraud and waste. So not only did these people pick and choose which number to use so they could work and ALSO collect “low income” benefits, but they also potentially could have gotten TWO SS checks after they “retired” based upon the SAME EARNINGS. What a freaking scam.

      It is SO SIMPLE and WAS, even in 1981, to cross check this stuff with a computer. It takes a tiny fraction of a second. No longer than it takes for you to run a search for anything on the Web (and considering the size of the Web versus the size of the SS database, an Internet search should take longer). It takes mere minutes to write the code into the program to catch these duplications.

      This is so fundamentally stupid to NOT do it that one must assume that it’s built into the system to ALLOW it. In addition, if they don’t want to hold up the processing at the offices, they could periodically run a computer program to look for these kinds of duplications within the entire database.

      There can and should be NO exceptions. It should be IMPOSSIBLE for anybody to get around the programmed controls. Even if one local office can get around them, there still should be periodically run “exception reports” that spot these duplications in the entire database and result in investigations and firings. Again, it must be that they WANT TO TURN A BLIND EYE to this fraud.

      If one person can have two numbers, can two people have one number?

      • Click to access A-06-10-20155_0.pdf

        That’s the full report. An interesting footnote in the report:

        “Certain numberholder information, like last name or citizenship status, can change over time. SSA does not update the Numident unless numberholders report these changes.”

        I’m reading the report and when they said that the “same office” issued the duplicates, they meant that in many cases both numbers were issued to a specific person by the same office where s/he applied. That indicated, to the auditors, that it was LIKELY the same person and not two different people who happened to have the same identification facts. So it doesn’t appear to mean that there was one office that allowed this error to go through. It also seems that they allow DHS and the Dept. of State to initiate the process and there’s no or little control over whether or not a person can then go apply again and end up with two cards. DHS. I love it.

        “An Alien Registration Number (ARN) is a unique identifier DHS issues to noncitizens. In most cases, SSA’s enumeration records did not include an ARN.”

        SO HOW, THEN, DO THEY SCREEN OUT ILLEGAL ALIENS? Do they just take the person’s WORD for it on the “citizenship” question?

        “Our review included only enumeration records that identified the numberholder as a non-U.S. citizen.”

        So if the person lied about being a non-citizen, the records weren’t checked. HOW do they check to ensure that only CITIZENS or LEGAL immigrants apply and get records?

        Government Gave 4,317 Aliens 2 Social Security Numbers a Piece [sic]

        … Surprisingly, most multiples were issued by the same office, meaning that a non-citizen obtained a Social Security number from a Social Security office and then returned to that same office and obtained a second number, despite using duplicate information.

        A total of 3,320 multiples were given by the same office, with nearly half of those being issued within a week. …”

        How could that be a mistake instead of an attempt a deliberate fraud? Why would more than 3000 people return to the SSA office and get ANOTHER SS#? Are they selling the cards with another person using the second card? The report says they didn’t contact the people with the cards, so how do they even know the identity of the person USING the card? This is a tip of the iceberg kind of thing, because they didn’t look at everything. They didn’t, for example, look for two people with one number.

  10. LAPD FOXLA “UNCENSORED VERSION” …… is a better read….
    “MAN” ~ i ~”FEST” ~ O’ ….by truly yours, CD

    • Today, Los Angeles authorities offered a $1 million reward for information leading to the arrest of Christopher Dorner.

      • Whose million are they offering? Thought the city was broke?

        • I read in the paper that it was from private donations. It’s getting absurd now. Theatre of the absurd! Charlie Sheen reaching out to Dorner because Dorner gave him a “shout out” in his manifesto. Anger management? WTF? Is this reality or a TV show? I think it was the Anchoress who wrote about how it’s no wonder that Dorner seems to have an overinflated theatrical sense of his importance, because his manifesto was just infused with pop culture, television, and movie references, and he writes as if he personally knows these celebrities he mentioned, including the Obamas. FINALLY, more than a week after the first murder, my local paper has a story on this on the front page (below the fold). They even put a photo of Dorner, but mentioned NOTHING about his politics, his love for Obama, etc. Had he been a white Tea Partier, his political views would have been focused on and hyped and on front pages at the top since a week ago Sunday. It’s the mendacity of the statist, leftist lamestream media that I absolutely abhor.

  11. “Newsweek’s Tina Brown: ‘Obama’d Be Impeached By Now For Drones If He Was Bush'”

    “Newsweek/Daily Beast editor Tina Brown said something Friday night that should wake up the Left and their media minions.”

  12. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Ah the effin foreigner speaks truth. What a bloody surprise.

    On another note, the story of d r o n e s has been preempted by the Doner party, I mean…..story. Amazing how this administration’s screw ups are always preempted by something!

  13. Rosemary Woodhouse

    And the news of the Pope resigning bodes ill for those who are familiar with certain prophecies. Time will tell. Strange days indeed.

    • It is strange. Most Popes just live out their days as Pope. Last one who resigned did so 600 years ago. I heard that he was told by his doctor not to fly on planes anymore, so I guess he felt that limited him in his job. But what did Popes do before they invented airplanes? Somehow, they got the word out to their people.

    • Breaking: Pope Benedict resigning at end of month
      February 11, 2013 7:30 am

      Just how big a deal is this? The last time the leader of the Roman Catholic Church resigned his office was almost exactly 600 years ago in 1415, and that was to end the Western Schism and reunify the Pontificate. No such dramatics are in play today, as Benedict XVI will step down on February 28th for reasons of health:

      Full text of Pope’s declaration…

    • I think we’re going to see real soon exactly what St. Malachy was talking about. Enter “Petrus Romanus”.

      Rosemary — interesting final sentence. Heard the song “Strange Days” by the Doors not too long ago on the local oldies station. Can’t think of a more fitting theme song for these times we’re living in.

  14. Marines Were Disarmed for President Obama’s Second Inaugural Parade
    Feb. 11

    He’s gutted their healthcare, plans to cut their pay and apparently, doesn’t trust them either. David Codrea over at Gun Rights Examiner points out that Marines marching in President Obama’s second inaugural parade recently were caring rifles without bolts, meaning they were removed.

    “Didn’t know the Marines had to take the bolts out of their rifles for the Inaugural,” an email forwarded to Gun Rights Examiner from a United States Marine Corps source observed. “Wonder if someone can explain why [they] would be marching in the inaugural parade with no bolts in their rifles!”
    “The bolts have been removed from the rifles rendering them unable to fire a round,” the post stated. “Apparently Obama’s Secret Service doesn’t trust the USMC. Simply searching each guy to make sure he didn’t have a live round hidden on him wasn’t enough, they had to make sure the guns were inoperable.

  15. What Our Society Has Become
    Douglas V. Gibbs Monday, February 11, 2013 Snip

    Today’s democrats are often called “socialists” by their opposition, and though that is probably true, what today’s progressive liberals truly are is something worse. These people are statists, which are people who believe that only the ruling elite understand how a society should be run, and that it is up to them to engineer that society so that eventually it becomes a peaceful utopia equipped with equality, fairness, and a share-and-share alike attitude. Heaven on Earth, I suppose you could say.

    Samuel Adams called the concept “utopianism.”
    Karl Marx called it communism.

    In order to achieve this wonderful world of peace and understanding, the statists need to convince the people to stop thinking like individuals, and for them to put the overall collective above their own personal needs and desires. The people must be taught to act in a manner that is good for the community, through governmental programs and policies. The problem for the social engineers is, people often have a tendency to want to hang on to pesky little things like individualism, self-reliance, personal responsibility, freedom, and their own pursuit of happiness.

    To transform a society, the ruling elite realizes they must do what the military does during boot camp. The individuals must be torn down to nothing, and then rebuilt in a manner acceptable to the body politic. In this way, the members of society become a homogeneous mass of followers willing to do as they have been programmed.


    Obama Poised to Skirt Congress to Seal Legacy in New Term Agenda

    When President Barack Obama delivers his State of the Union address on Tuesday night, the biggest question he’ll face will be how to get an ambitious second-term agenda through a divided Congress.

    The answer: Go around it.

    On climate change, gun control, gay rights, and even immigration, the White House has signaled a willingness to circumvent lawmakers through the use of presidential power. Already, plans are being laid to unleash new executive orders, regulations, signing statements and memorandums designed to push Obama’s programs forward and cement his legacy, according to administration aides and allies.

    “The big things that we need to get done, we can’t wait on,” said White House senior adviser Dan Pfeiffer. “If we can take action, we will take action.” … “

    • More from that story: “And even as the president pushes for legislation revising immigration laws, his aides and advocates have a menu of actions that can be taken unilaterally by the White House, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Pentagon to benefit undocumented immigrants and their families, according to congressional staff members and immigration activists.

      If things really do truly stall and we can’t get the bipartisan agreement to fix a really broken system, these may be the kinds of tools to look for,” said Bob Deasy, a director of the American Immigration Lawyers Association.”

      So if the LAWMAKERS don’t make the LAWS Barry wants, or if they make LAWS he doesn’t like, then he will HAVE TO act like a KING, IGNORE the law, and DO WHAT HE WANTS, regardless of the law, because, in his mind, “we can’t wait.” WHEN WILL THEY IMPEACH THIS GUY? EXACTLY HOW FAR WILL THEY LET HIM GO BEFORE THEY HAVE THE GUTS TO STAND UP TO HIS VIOLATION OF EVERY OATH HE TOOK TO THE LAW AND THE CONSTITUTION?

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        Miri- seriously, why should they stop? They’re getting away with everything without much resistance. Amazing what a wussified country we’ve become. No offense to Lindsay Graham as he has my admiration for standing firm, but he’s not the first congressperson I would think of in conjunction with what used to be considered good old American testosterone.

        • I agree. Why should they stop when nobody looks to be even TRYING to stop them? It’s getting pretty bad when even the usual suspects like Turley start to sound alarmed.

  17. Back to Dorner. Found this story:,0,2078843,full.story

    Dorner’s LAPD firing case hinged on credibility
    … LAPD records show that Dorner’s disciplinary panel heard from several witnesses who testified that they did not see the training officer kick the man. The panel found that the man did not have injuries consistent with having been kicked, nor was there evidence of having been kicked on his clothes. A key witness in Dorner’s defense was the man’s father, who testified that his son told him he had been kicked by police. The panel concluded that the father’s testimony “lacked credibility,” finding that his son was too mentally ill to give a reliable account. …

    Dorner’s attorney, Quan, presented a brief video he took of Christopher Gettler answering Quan’s questions at the attorney’s office. On the video, obtained by Fox 11 News, the younger Gettler agrees when asked whether he was kicked by a police officer and points to his left cheek, indicating that’s where he was struck. He says he was kicked once and that the officer was female and “almost black” with dark hair. He then corrects himself, saying she had light hair.

    Evans is listed in department and court records as white with blond hair.

    At the disciplinary hearing, Christopher Gettler could not give the current year and sometimes provided seemingly random answers to questions. He said he did not recall how he was hurt during the encounter with the officers and thought they had used a club on him.

    Evans denied kicking Gettler. She had been placed on desk duty for about seven months during the department’s investigation and prevented from earning extra money outside the department. “It was very difficult on me personally,” she testified.

    Dorner, she said, was having problems readjusting to police work after returning from a 13-month military deployment overseas. He told her that family members had noticed a change in him and that he would seek help for it, she testified. On one occasion, he started crying in their patrol car, she said.

    On several evaluation forms, Evans rated Dorner as “satisfactory” but indicated he needed to improve in certain areas. At one point, she told him she would give him an “unsatisfactory” rating unless he improved. “He was upset,” she said.

    Records show that Dorner reported the kicks a day after he received an evaluation in which Evans noted that he needed to show improvement in three categories, including the time it took to write reports, officer safety and use of common sense and good judgment. …”

    This was two weeks AFTER the kicks allegedly happened.

  18. Droning Out Freedom (CliffsNotes On DOJ White Paper)
    Feb. 11, 2013

    Can you hear the humming of a lawnmower in the sky? It is a government drone. Your mission is to prevent this unmanned aircraft from droning out your freedom.

    Last week, NBC News turned the White House upside-down by revealing a confidential 16-page Department of Justice white paper titled “Lawfulness of a Lethal Operation Directed Against a U.S. Citizen Who is a Senior Operational Leader of Al-Qa’ida or An Associated Force.” (A better title: “Justification for Stripping U.S. Citizens of their Natural Rights and Crowning the President King.”)

    I read this white paper and I encourage you to read it too. But if you simply do not want to read a treatise justifying murder, I will give you the CliffsNotes version. This paper validates what conservatives and libertarians have been warning the public about for years: The Obama Administration’s international and domestic drone policies are unconstitutional and unethical

    • Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americans
      By Michael Isikoff – NBC News (we remember this guy from the interviews re Obama eligibility with Hawaii’s officials)
      Feb. 4,2012 Snip

      A confidential Justice Department memo concludes that the U.S. government can order the killing of American citizens if they are believed to be “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force” — even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the U.S.

      The 16-page memo, a copy of which was obtained by NBC News, provides new details about the legal reasoning behind one of the Obama administration’s most secretive and controversial polices: its dramatically increased use of drone strikes against al-Qaida suspects abroad, including those aimed at American citizens, such as the September 2011 strike in Yemen that killed alleged al-Qaida operatives Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan. Both were U.S. citizens who had never been indicted by the U.S. government nor charged with any crimes.

      DOJ Leaked White Paper

      Click to access 020413_DOJ_White_Paper.pdf

      • If you think about how many people Obama has killed with these drones, it’s rather amazing. 3000. That’s a lot of people. Considering the way the leftists whined and moaned about GWB allegedly “waterboarding” three very guilty terrorists, they sure have changed their tunes and their beliefs. I suppose that had Romney won, today we’d be hearing about reining in this power. (Not that I believe that Romney would have done anything unconstitutional.) 3000 people. They had secret justification for killing EVERY ONE of them? I’m not saying that avowed, known terrorists who have already killed our people in cold blood (or anybody else in cold blood, for that matter) don’t deserve what they got. But there WERE innocent civilians among that number and they were killed in countries that we’re not at war with and which may or may not have known what was to happen. In addition, they were killed by the CIA, not the US military. That’s not a battlefield death. That’s an ASSASSINATION. I tried yesterday to find the legal expression that would describe punishment in advance of a crime. I couldn’t, so maybe any lawyer amongst us can help? But this is why Brennan insists it’s not “punishment”, because there’s probably a legal prohibition against meting out justice in advance of the crime. Sort of the opposite of ex post facto. Or similar to prior restraint. Where is it written in the Constitution or in the law that the POtuS can kill people because he thinks they MIGHT endanger “American lives?” Reminds me of that Tom Cruise movie MINORITY REPORT. Remember that one? “In a future where a special police unit is able to arrest murderers before they commit their crimes, an officer from that unit is himself accused of a future murder.” Except in the Obamanation, you get executed for a future crime, not just arrested.

    • That writer makes a good point. In this white paper, the person who can call the shots, in the administration opinion, doesn’t even have to be a member of the military! So that means Big Sis could make the call, in their opinion. In addition, when you think about it, imho, these drones are run by the CIA, NOT the military. Barry is Commander in Chief of the U.S. military, according to the Constitution, during a DECLARED by the Congress war. The CIA is NOT the military. The president, as head of the executive branch, has no power to delegate to a civilian branch of government, his powers as CiC. Orders given to the CIA are not orders given by the CiC. There is no constitutional power to order the CIA to kill U.S. citizens, here or abroad, without due process.

    • Zen, did you read this story, linked from that one?

      ‘Skeeterism’ and Obama’s Columbia Years

      … No friend or guest has come forward in recent days to publicly describe [skeet] shooting with the president. …

      Prior to the release of the photo, the Post had this to say:

      But it is also curious that the White House refuses to provide any documentary evidence that he actually used the shooting range at Camp David, since he claims he uses it “all the time,” or that a presidential friend has not come forward to confirm the president’s comments.

      We are now going to apply the above evidentiary standards to a consideration of the period in which Obama is said to have attended Columbia University — in particular, to the spring 1982 time frame.

      It turns out that there is no evidence — documentary, testimonial, or otherwise — that can show that Obama was attending classes at Columbia (or even in New York) in Spring 1982, even though there is evidence of his attendance with respect to every other semester he is said to have attended Columbia.

      Mr. Obama’s two autobiographies have no pictures, period. However, David Remnick’s biography of Mr. Obama contains many dated pictures (including, of course, pictures taken before and after Columbia — for example, pictures of him at Harvard in 1990), but no dated pictures from the Columbia years. Ditto David Mendell’s biography. The same is true of David Maraniss’s recent biography of Mr. Obama, as well as of the Chicago Tribune’s collection of 106 Obama pictures.

      A Google search with the terms “Obama pictures Columbia” and variants discloses the same.

      With regard to the post-Columbia New York period, though, Mr. Maraniss does include a picture of Mr. Obama and Genevieve Cook dated as having been taken after Mr. Obama’s graduation from Columbia (at p. 29 of the photographic plates). …”

      Now WTPOTUS would certainly, and correctly, contest this contention that there ARE photos to document his post-Columbia period, but that’s beside my main point. FIRST AND FOREMOST: There’s no DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE OR TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE or any other EVIDENCE that he was born in Hawaii to the people he claims as parents. THAT’S FAR MORE IMPORTANT to this Republic than whether or not he really went to Columbia.

      I don’t give a rat’s ass whether he went there except that his general deviousness and lack of transparency and history of inventing tall tales PROVES that it’s crucial to get EVIDENCE THAT HE IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Nothing else matters.

      It matters not if he really had girlfriends. Or that he lied about his grades. Or anything else that’s not pertinent to his role in usurping the office of the presidency. IT’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, STUPID. Everything else is distraction (although I would love to see the transcript in case he was a foreign student).

      • Go to link for more:

        “Henry Franklin Graff, professor emeritus of history at Columbia for 46 years, has cast doubt on claims Obama attended classes at the New York City university.

        “I have no recollection of Barack Obama at Columbia, and I am sure he never attended any of my classes,” Graff told WND in a telephone interview.”
        “Wayne Allyn Root: I think the most dangerous thing you should know about Barack Obama is that I don’t know a single person at Columbia that knows him, and they all know me. I don’t have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia. Ever!”

        • Rosemary Woodhouse

          /sarcasm on/ but hey all that matter is he’s perceived as being cool. And he gives out money and phones! And, of course, as Jamie Foxx pointed out, blacks are best at everything!/sarcasm off postscript for the racists: I am not being racist by pointing out black racism. It’s more rampant and pervasive than white America ever dreamed.

      • Somewhere I read that he has only been to Camp David about 4? times during the last four years…so his statement that he does it “all” the time was another bold faced lie.

        Additionally, the original photo was such a crock! What idiot would put their face on the rifle unless they wanted a broken jaw. I used to shoot skeet and the clay pigeons were flung up into the air. I didn’t start with my gun straight ahead and the gun never smoked either. If that sucker held the stance he was in, and shot, I believe he’d be on his tush within a second. And he wasn’t wearing a shoulder pad either and the blowback would leave him bruised. The whole photo was nothing but that – another fake photo op to prove he is a macho guy instead of the pansy he really is. He likes guns, really? Let’s have a Marine or an army guy toss a gun at him and see what he does with it.

        • OMG, Bridgette, so you’ve shot skeet. Great! Another person with real experience. alfy, iirc, gave us some clues about it. It looked ridiculous to me, what with the two smoke plumes and his “mom jeans” on. And the level gun. Even I know that they throw skeet way up into the air. Wait! I mean they “do skeet” into the air. Your comments are exactly what others said–no protective gear, it would have broken his collarbone or bruised his face.

          • To bad he didn’t shoot that gun for real. A broken jaw would have come in handy for We the Peeps pre-election or it might have shut him up for the SOTU speech. A photo of him on the ground would have been his just reward!

            • Oh, how true. He couldn’t SPEAK with his jaw wired shut. A blessed hiatus for We the People. He could, of course, have someone signing it in American sign Language (or maybe he’d use Kenyan or Indonesian sign language). He could also just stand there and let TOTUS give the speech. It essentially does, anyway.

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            I’ve shot skeet too. Yes, it bruises even with a shoulder pad. The aim of the barrel of the gun depends on the trajectory of the clay. Sometimes the clays are launched midair. Doesn’t mean I believe he “does skeet”‘ OMG….hilarious. Btw, was he wearing shooting glasses (protection for eyes)?

            I highly recommend it. It’s fun!


    Hagel Went to Five Colleges, Was ‘D’ Student; Media Oblivious

    Remember when the mainstream media mocked a politician who had to attend five colleges to graduate, whose academic record was less than outstanding, and whose subsequent success was proof of nothing? Remember how that was supposed to be a threat to national security, the economy, and so much else?

    That was so 2008, so Sarah Palin.

    It turns out that former Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), who is now awaiting confirmation as Secretary of Defense, attended five colleges and was a “D” student. He volunteered to serve in Vietnam, and returned having been awarded two Purple Hearts. He pulled himself together, graduated, and went on to a successful career. Nevertheless, the media’s double standard is glaring when compared to the way Palin was treated. …”

  20. Rosemary Woodhouse

    But but but…she’s conservative, silly!

  21. A little birdy sent this news…. could it be happening soon?

    Biden may be interim president by the end of 2013

    Keep your fingers crossed!!!!!!!
    Subject: Biden may be interim president by the end of 2013


    In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College … Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California.

    The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim.

  22. Post # 37 it’s a good read…. (% Bleep above it’s ok. )

  23. Hadiya Pendleton….. 2 Charged on her killing/murder 18 M Ward &
    K Williams 20. & Both could be Barry’s …. sons!,0,

  24. Some good news! Dr. Carson doesn’t rule out running for office in the future. He’s not saying he will, but he’s saying something that reminds me of Sarah Palin: If it’s God’s will, he’ll answer the call. Let’s pray that it is God’s will. (He IS retiring from surgery, but will still teach.)

    FBI: Calif. Man Hoped to Incite ‘Civil War’ by Framing ‘Anti-Government’ Right-Wing Groups for Terror Attack

    Federal agents arrested 28-year-old California native Matthew Aaron Llaneza on Friday after he allegedly attempted to detonate what he thought was a car bomb outside a Bank of America in Oakland, according to the FBI. Llaneza, a Taliban sympathizer, plotted to blame the attack on right-wing, anti-government groups in a bid to incite a “civil war.”

    “Llaneza’s arrest was the culmination of an undercover operation during which he was closely monitored by the FBI’s South Bay Joint Terrorism Task Force. Unbeknownst to Llaneza, the explosive device that he allegedly attempted to use had been rendered inoperable by law enforcement and posed no threat to the public. Llaneza was charged this morning by criminal complaint with attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction against property used in an activity that affects interstate or foreign commerce,” according to an FBI press release.

    Prior to his arrest, Llaneza met with a man he thought was connected with the Taliban and the mujahidin in Afghanistan — though he was actually an undercover FBI agent. The terrorist suspect suggested carrying out an attack against a bank in the San Francisco Bay Area using a car bomb. He planned to carry out the false flag attack and make it appear as if “the responsible party was an umbrella organization for a loose collection of anti-government militias and their sympathizers.” [Gee, then Barry could target THEM with drones!]

    “Llaneza’s stated goal was to trigger a governmental crackdown, which he expected would trigger a right-wing counter-response against the government followed by, he hoped, civil war,” the FBI release states. …”

    • good one Zen, course what kinda name is galganov? French Polish? Just joking, he is right on about the spanish and when a guy (Rubio) who loves this country ,speaks with a silver spanish toungue,but doesn’t quell any of the retoric that he may run for pres. yet his family were not citizens of this country, then I have a problem with that.

      • Sounds Russian to me.

      • Yep, problems for me too. Rubio has had tons of information sent to him by tons of creditable people about the definition of NBC and showed historically, legally, why he is not eligible. He had a perfect opportunity to say (which would discredit Obama or at least bring major attention to his lacking nbc) “I won’t run for president; wouldn’t even try because I resprect the Constitution. I AM NOT ELIGIBLE according to the Constitution, being born to citizen parents. At the time of my birth my parents had not yet became citizens. ” BUT HE DOES NOT> (or maybe ‘can’t’)

        • It would be wise for Rubio to seek an opinion from the SCOTUS. If he doesn’t and he tries to run, make no mistake: The obots will contest him without any sense of irony. He might be hoping that nobody will have the guts to take it to the Court, because if they rule as they should, they’ll be saying that Barry’s ineligible and so his entire presidency was a sham. Not that I have much faith that if the SCOTUS does rule, they’ll say what they should say.

    • The guy has a point. He says that both Obama and Marco Rubio make the claim that before “immigrants” get citizenship, they should have to learn English. Then Rubio plans to give his response to the SOTU address in both English AND Spanish, which is nothing more than pandering. Agreed. The State of the UNION concerns CITIZENS. If all citizens should know English, then they should know what Rubio says about the union when he speaks English. If they’re not citizens, then it doesn’t concern them, anyway, does it? The writer is in Canada and has his own complaints about, I’m assuming, the fight up there over English versus French.

  26. Check out the Man that killed Mr Kyle and another american. He could have connection with Christopher J Dorner.

  27. This man is actually teaching at Columbia (where else?):

    Marc Lamont Hill thinks Dorner is a “real life superhero.”

    “And, as far as Dorner himself goes, he’s been like a real-life superhero to many people. Now, don’t get me wrong, what he did was awful, killing innocent people is bad. But when you read his manifesto, you read the message that he left, he wasn’t entirely crazy. [Gee, neither was HITLER! He had some good qualities. Why, so did James Earl Ray, probably, but I bet we won’t hear Hill mention them!] He had a plan and a mission, here. [So did Stalin and Pol Pot.] And, many people aren’t rooting for him to kill innocent people; they’re rooting for someone who was wronged to get a kind of revenge against the system. [If his “kind of revenge” includes murdering people who had nothing to do with the “system,” then that’s fine with Hill, unless, I presume, he chooses somebody to die who’s important to Hill.] It’s almost like watching ‘Django Unchained’ in real life. It’s kind of exciting.”

    Keep in mind that the media excoriated Todd Akin for saying that a woman’s body can somehow reject the child of a rapist. Will the same happen to Marc Lamont Hill for saying that watching Dorner wreak havoc is “kind of exciting?” Yes, oh, so “exciting” for the families who were terrorized while Dorner was stalking them. Fifty is the number I heard. Fifty families targeted.

    How “exciting” is it for the families of the DEAD? How “exciting” must it be to hear the likes of Hill bloviating on national TV that he found it “exciting” to watch Dorner stalk and kill their family members? Four innocents, two of them cops who died in the line of duty and two who were killed simply because the woman’s father tried to ADVOCATE for Dorner. Both of them, btw, were “minorities”. So some “minorities” are more equal than others to Marc Lamont Hill.

    The CNN host actually nodded her head in agreement with Hill, appearing to agree that Dorner’s a “superHERO” for murdering four people via “gun violence” and that it was kind of “exciting” to watch him terrorize an entire state.

    Sympathy for the victims of Sandy Hook. Praise for the murderer in California. Why?

    Because he’s black, his victims and their families are less deserving of compassion?

    Because he’s a leftist who supports Obama, then he must have been “wronged” somehow and so it was “exciting” to watch him act out and kill four people in cold blood who had nothing to do with his perceived “injustice”? I’m appalled.

    What sort of mind must you have to mourn the losses at Aurora and Sandy Hook but not equally mourn the losses at Fort Hood and Los Angeles?

    If Dorner had been white and his victims black, would Marc Lamont Hill consider him a “superhero” who was “exciting” to watch? RACISM is the only explanation.

    It says a lot about Hill’s soul that he would think it’s “exciting” to watch Dorner get his “revenge”. Against what? The white establishment? Retribution meted out against those who had nothing to do with “victimizing” Dorner, except that Hill perceives them to be symbols of the–what did Belafonte call it?–the “unjust systems of justice?”

    • Marc Lamont Hill calls Dorner’s words “powerful”. He probably feels the same about Barry’s bloviating. Two guys attributed with brilliance. Why? Because of the color of their skin?

    • Another non-apology apology by a leftist. IF anybody was offended … He offers condolences only IF he offended them. And he tries to pretend that he wasn’t speaking for himself when he said, all excited, how it was “kind of exciting” to watch Dorner. He pretends NOW, after the blowback, that he was only speaking for those who admired Dorner. NOT! Yeah, that’s the ticket. BS.

  28. Christopher Dorner’s Positively … ID’d … dental records match.
    Did he end up in the basement of the house?
    & Savage said twice… that Monica Quan was Black & Chinese?

    • Yes, she was. When I first saw a photo of the couple, I noticed that the fiance looked black. Another day, they showed her and I thought she was Asian. Black and Chinese makes sense.


      I don’t think they showed their photos much. Heck, my paper didn’t show Dorner but once and that was a full 8 days after he killed that couple, Monica Quan and Keith Lawrence. I wonder if Marc Lamont Hill knew their races? You think once he learns he will still think it was “exciting” to watch Dorner get his “revenge”? They look like such nice wholesome people. Do you think Mooch will go to their funerals? Do you think Barry will call the families of these victims of “gun violence”?

  29. All Dorners…. Lovefesters… & Supporters…. line up on the LEFT!

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