Onaka Verifies Obama’s LFCOLB for Mississippi
OKAY! SO WHAT’S UP WITH THIS? It was submitted in the Mississippi ballot challenge. To head off Sheriff Joe’s next presser? You be the judge. Have at it. Pick it apart, folks. I haven’t had time to read the entire motion yet.
OPEN THREAD.
Bridgette
itooktheredpill
Miri
newssleuth
We the People of the United States 
I read a comment on a site years ago…the poster commented that he had searched far and wide, being all name changes by legal means are public record, and he stated his efforts found nothing.
Now to my memory:
I read an article just days before his comment and the author stated that the fraud said he went to a NEW YORK?? Chicago?? attorney to have his name changed from Soetoro to Obama. I read much daily–city is not clear, but I can remember that article objective clearly like yesterday addressing his name change.
Searched for days and couldn’t find the article.
It will be interesting to read the reply that you get. How many days do they have to answer UIPA requests? This one could have them stumped as it is different from others. They may decide that you aren’t family or don’t have a vested interest so can’t have the information. They will use one of their rules to deny giving out the information. Do we expect an honest answer?
Miri and others, (including CW),
Thanks for all your hard work. I pray to God it will pay off and this usurper will not escape the … darn, having trouble with words… what is it I want to say? I guess I want history to look back at this usurper as a temporary lapse in American sanity. Like, “WTH? What were we thinking?” Hoping every bill he signed is rescinded! Every person he appointed is fired! CHANGE IT BACK!
Exactly. I hope so, too, but I can’t imagine them changing everything back. Meaning to rescind everything he signed. They are in for a penny, in for a dollar now. The left actually thinks he hasn’t done ENOUGH far left insanity. They hope if he’s reelected, that he will go full tilt towards the commie NWO. And he certainly will. (Anybody who thinks Hillary won’t do the same is dreaming.) But even those who want him out don’t want him “humiliated” although he surely deserves it. He’s an embarrassment. Carter looks good compared to him, but they will preserve this illusion of Barry the wonderful and that he’s eligible, for the sake of “black” Americans. It’s an extreme example of the type of reasoning that makes school teachers give every kid a trophy. For his or her “self esteem”. Even the Republicans believe that blacks need this potus for group “self esteem”. It’s paternalistic and insulting, but they feel that way all the same. I just want him out of our White House. And his influence completely out of our government. Soros, Hillary, Pelosi, all the socialists, too. That’s what we have to pray for–that Ed Schultz’s nightmare comes true and there’s never again another far left potus like this one. I hope Americans truly realize the danger so that they say, “Never again!” They got rid of the commies in the ’50s; we have to do it again. Defeat communism once and for all.
Dr. Alvin T. Onaka Ph.D
Birth Certificate changes 1998 … he was on the panel
http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?=f25&t=5772
Zenway! You’re really going behind enemy lines there. You’re reading fogblow? Yikes! But that reminds me. Another question for the lawyerly among us: Aren’t their standards for electronic signatures? Something that makes them VALID?
a signature can be any mark intended to be your signature. even letterhead can be a signature. but if hawaii has their own regulations that define a valid signature, then that is what they have to comply with
I was thinking in terms of legal documents received only via electronic means and how they are legal, as in “electronic signatures”. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_signature
Just wondering how a court verifies the authenticity and legitimacy IF the only thing they get is a digital image.
I was thinking the same thing. Why does Onaka initial his stamped signature here? He does not do it on other documents. The “gk” initial on the VOB Hawaii sent to Bennett is there because Onaka did not stamp his signature on that document “gk” did and had to put their initials indicating that. But you do not have to initialize your own signature. Also, this VOB is in direct conflict with the Bennett VOB. Keep em producing one phony document after another. The conflicting lies are coming fast and furious.
The only time I’ve had to initial my own signature is when I vote, and it’s to verify that I checked the other data they have on the registration printout, like my address, and affirm that it’s still true. It is curious that Onaka initialed his own signature, unless there’s another employee at the HDOH with the same initials. So assuming that’s a signature STAMP, maybe he personally signed his initials to make it more legit. But he doesn’t do this on any other document, like certified copies of birth certificates, so why this one? The only explanation I can think of is that they read all the blogs and the complaints people made about the AZ letter, everything that makes it ILLEGITIMATE, and decided (as obots do) to pretend to offer a rational “response” to each and every one. Just like they put SELECTED definitions of “to verify” in the motion. VOB. Verification of Birth. There’s no such thing, so far as I know, in the Hawaiian policies. It’s “letter of verification in lieu of a certified copy”. LVLCC. That’s in their policies and there’s a specific form to fill out to apply for it. So, as with his supposed LFCOLB, this didn’t go through the usual channels (despite the HDOH claims long ago that Barry gets the same treatment as everybody else–his documents not treated differently). He supposedly got a special waiver so that his personal attorney could go to Hawaii and receive and carry back to the mainland two certified copies of his original long-form birth certificate–copies NOBODY HAS EVER SEEN. WHY, if they exist, didn’t he submit one of them to the Mississippi Court? Why instead did the DemoncRAT lawyers ask for this VOB? And as with their little bogus “waiver” he got for the LFCOLB (which was ONLY to answer this anticipated question: How can he now get a copy after Obama, CNN, and the HDOH claimed it wasn’t possible?) they followed a special procedure for Barry’s VOB.
EVERYBODY ELSE fills out the official form, requesting a LVLCC. Why didn’t they? Because nobody can give a letter IN LIEU OF SOMETHING THAT DOESN’T EXIST. He doesn’t HAVE a CERTIFIABLE birth certificate. OR, if he does, they don’t want to SHOW WHAT IT SAYS.
From that, we can deduce that SOMETHING ON THE FORM IS NOT THE SAME (DOES NOT “MATCH”) WHAT’S ON HIS ORIGINAL (OR INITIAL) BIRTH CERTIFICATE. So what is it? Birth date? Birth place? Birth mother? Birth father? I believe those are the only items on the form.
IF anything the requestor writes on the form doesn’t “match”, then the letter comes back WITHOUT VERIFYING THAT DATA ELEMENT. This is what happened with AZ, and the MS letter differs enough that they have weasel room.
They can’t give out a certified copy and they can’t give out a REAL letter of verification in lieu of a certified copy. Why? Because whatever it is that he is hiding, which is probably the key to proving his ineligibility, would then be known.
funny. the comments point out that Adams must be a liar because the race box should be filled out based on what the father calls himself. they are trying to explain away the unusual ‘african’ entry for race. just by reading the link, it is obvious they were citing to the DHH for LOUISIANNA!!!. dhh.louisianna.gov – and it’s probably the current LA rules anyway, so i don’t know what they think it has to do with 1961 Hawaii BC’s.
http://michaelpatrickleahy.blogspot.com/2008/10/show-us-birth-certificate-hawaii.html
That’s a really good old article to reprise because it holds true still, TODAY:
“They did not say we have the long form copy of his birth certificate signed by his attending physician at Kapiolani Hospital on August 4, 1961.
It’s an original birth certificate “in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
One of those state policies and procedures was the acceptance of “after the fact” birth certificates under the 1911 Hawaii Birth Certificate program. This program was for residents of Hawaii over the age of one who did not register their birth with the state originally. The state accepted some “alternate form of documentation.” This “alternate form of documentation”, once accepted under this program that was in existence until 1972, becomes “an original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
How convenient that this press conference is held on the eve of the Presidential election just a couple weeks after Barack Obama went to visit his sick grandmother.”
And that explains how they can have this “original birth certificate” that matches what he says. The thing is, I read the letter sent to Hawaii by the Mississippi DemocRAT lawyers. They specifically DON’T ask them to state whether or not the LFCOLB on the WH is a ACCURATE COPY of that original. No, they ask them to match up the “information” and then they say the letter they got back “verifies” that the information ON the WH LFCOLB is “true”. But it may or may not be true and the letter did not say that it was true. All the letter said was that the information on it matches what was claimed on his original records. Even if that original was amended multiple times, it might, by now, MATCH. But those lawyers also didn’t ask if that is the information on the record IN 1961. They went out of their way NOT to ask that. They then go on to state that if the information is true (or matches, which is what Onaka said, not that it’s true–only that the information matches and what was on the original is how they determined the “facts” of the event so, in other words, they did nothing else to verify that these “facts” are true). Anyway, they said IF the information is true then the LFCOLB is NOT FORGED. But in no way could they make that determination from what Onaka wrote. That LFCOLB most assuredly is forged. It’s a put together amalgam of information, that “matches” (NOW) what’s on his probably many-times-amended BC. But that LFCOLB could be FORGED no matter what it says. And it is forged. Onaka did NOT AFFIRM THAT THE HDOH CREATED THAT WH LFCOLB, THAT THEY CERTIFIED IT, OR THAT IT’S AN EXACT COPY OF THE ORIGINAL IN HAWAII. And that’s because he won’t show his exact copy and because Hawaii, if they had to generate a certified copy, would not generate anything that looks like that thing on the WH blog BECAUSE THERE ARE NO AMENDMENTS LISTED. And surely, there were amendments that made it match what he claims. BY HAWAIIAN LAW, THE AMENDMENTS MUST BE LISTED AND DESCRIBED ON THE FRONT OF EVERY CERTIFIED COPY.
m …ya all say… site the link … & the last message said they infact went completely digital…with them… BC… 3 years later … in 2001…
Above and beyond the call of duty! Someone in comments says that and it may be true but it wasn’t retroactive. Births from 2001 onward were electronically filed. They did NOT destroy original paper birth records. I guarantee that. They wouldn’t do it. I don’t for one minute believe that they destroyed passport records or port of entry records, either. These are all public documents. Historical documents. Archival documents. US history. Genealogy. In no way do these documents that belong to the public get destroyed. They may be filed away in an inaccesible bunker somewhere, once on microfilm, but the documents that back up the films still exist. They have “outs” in the laws that say they don’t have to go to extremes to find them upon an FOIA request. That’s why, when something like the port of entry or selective service films just “go missing” or get “misfiled” or “stolen”, you’re not going to see them go back and dig in the old vaults for the originals. Some day, those missing films will reappear. They’re deliberately misfiled until Barry’s out of office. Maybe 50 years from now, voila! There they’ll be. Just like suddenly, 150 years later, they found the medical records from one of the doctors who treated Lincoln at the theater the night he was killed.
Above and beyond the call of duty! Someone in comments says that and it may be true but it wasn’t retroactive. Births from 2001 onward were electronically filed. They did NOT destroy original paper birth records. I guarantee that. They wouldn’t do it. I don’t for one minute believe that they destroyed passport records or port of entry records, either. These are all public documents. Historical documents. Archival documents. US history. Genealogy. In no way do these documents that belong to the public get destroyed. They may be filed away in an inaccesible bunker somewhere, once on microfilm, but the documents that back up the films still exist. They have “outs” in the laws that say they don’t have to go to extremes to find them upon an FOIA request. That’s why, when something like the port of entry or selective service films just “go missing” or get “misfiled” or “stolen”, you’re not going to see them go back and dig in the old vaults for the originals. Some day, those missing films will reappear. They’re deliberately misfiled until Barry’s out of office. Maybe 50 years from now, voila! There they’ll be. Just like suddenly, 150 years later, they found the medical records from one of the doctors who treated Lincoln at the theater the night he was killed.
Putting all of that Hawaiian document BS aside right now, I sure do hope that something was found about about that girl’s BC that passed away. Wasn’t her name Virginia? Wouldn’t it be something if Sheriff Joe’s investigator’s found out about that?
Virginia Sunahara. It sure would be ground breaking if, for example, her mother or brother happened to find (or have had all along) her original birth certificate AND if it has the same number that Barry’s using.
I don’t know if this was posted here. So much info, so little time. Look at this Chinese commercial re: 2012 London Olympics. Blatant much?
Now, I remember where I first saw it. Not here. I would say “enjoy” or “glad to share” , but neither is applicable in this instance!
Poor George. zimmerman. as in bob dylan. we see you, like a hurricane.
another rezko deal. winds shifting ugly. again,
check out the chicago surnames galore and wonder no more.
in panavision technicolor. set up. where will opharoah be in 7 months from now? project. its just around the corner. prepare ye way. John, our Baptist.
Okay, Pap….normally I love decrypting, but in this case I am totally ???? Could you be more explicit please? Thx. 🙂
So what does everyone think of the Chinese commercial^^^^. From what I understand, Youtube pulled the original.
Is there any back story for that commercial? I’d love to know what they’re singing. If I were from the UK, I’d be outraged, if this really is sponsored by the government. If so, then London should disinvite the Reds.
yeah, i know Roe. a link and a paragraph is missing from the comment.
point being,a transition team muslim Nidal murderer on a Military base is on the back burner whilst a American guy named George Z standing his ground is being crucified.
and more. it’s really difficult to post on this site. getting on is one thing and then to post is a scramble with an “encrypted message” block up.
and for a long time now. since March. wordpress is blocking every click.
Papoose, I don’t know if it’s a problem because of the device you use to comment, but I have a problem using their stupid comment box. It will not position the cursor properly and sometimes there’s a scroll bar and sometimes not. It is very annoying and I truly suspect it’s why many readers don’t comment. We’ve complained to no avail, so far. I don’t know about any “encrypted message” block up. Gordo, any ideas?
scary stuff. 😯
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77213.html#ixzz1xKLR1KCS
Yes, I read that earlier. Thinking of pulling all social media. Seriously this time! Sadly, it has many pros. The Big Brother aspect is too much of a con (double entendre intentional)
I don’t use it. Romney shouldn’t really try to compete with Barry because of the demographics. Those companies are all complicit with him and his administration anyway. Who truly believes that even if the company policies aren’t to cooperate by any means necessary with Barry’s regime the EMPLOYEES aren’t doing everything in their power to sabotage conservatives and help the progressives who pay their salaries? Google’s employees helped Barry last time around and the company, officially, decried it but the scrubadubdubbing still goes on as does the messing with search results. Only when Congress starts to investigate their “in kind” donations to progressive candidates and causes will they even bother to police their staffs. These are companies full of a generation who ADMITTEDLY cheat in school, if they can get away with it. Who really trusts that anything you put on Facebook (even if “private”) doesn’t get shared with any obot who wants to know it? They applaud Assange and his minions. They believe in “by any means necessary” and with the power of knowledge (of your online activities and actions on “social media”) they can do much harm. Nothing happens when they violate people’s privacy. When they scrub information. When they mess with the search results to bury negative stuff about Barry. Does it? I don’t trust any of them and I never will. These new companies have NO ETHICS. NONE.
Sure their data mining is unprecedented. We never before had a potus who so blatantly used the RESOURCES provided by the taxpayers to run his campaign. And Romney doesn’t get the free help (not noted on campaign finance filings, I’m sure) from the social media AND from search engines like Google. Or from all the sites that go out of their way to scrub and bury negative information about Barry. They lie when they say it’s a close race. It’s not. That’s ALL LIES, as in Wisconsin. But their planned cheating requires the semblance of a close race, in order to make his theft look plausible–AGAIN. We the People need to have the back up plan of ensuring that both houses of Congress, but especially the Senate, belong to conservatives. Then he will be hamstrung and possibly impeached IF he tries to keep on with his unconstitutional policies. I wonder how all Americans feel about a potus who SPIES ON THEM AND BUILDS DOSSIERS ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM? THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO DECRIED J. EDGAR HOOVER. It occurs to me that Romney can counter this somewhat by simply publicizing that photo of the staff of Barry’s campaign headquarters–disproportionately WHITE, YOUNG, AND MALE. So much for diversity. These are the people SPYING ON YOU! Talk about a war on women and minorities. Barry’s civilian army of spies–20-something, white males. And they know ALL ABOUT YOU.
What Romney ought to do is say that Barry should give ALL AMERICANS THE RIGHT TO SCRUTINIZE THE FILES HE KEEPS ON THEM AND ASK TO “OPT OUT” OF HIS SECRET DOSSIER-BUILDING. I want to see whatever files Obama has on me and my family. I don’t care if it’s his campaign or not. WE HAVE A SPY IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHO SPIES ON YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!
efffect of Rand Paul endorsing Mitt Romney
http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/06/09/is-rand-paul-endorsing-mitt-romney-a-big-deal-absolutely/
‘Birthers,’ you’ve been punked
Do you guys find something a bit strange about this article at WND?
http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/birthers-youve-been-punked-2/
I’m meaning coming from them?
I’ve got no problem with it. Drew Zahn does great work and he’s right in every instance here. We were NOT punked by that Barry Soetoro site because I’ve never seen it before but would have figured it was a joke, anyway. As for that sign about Kenya: They don’t speak or use Arabic in Kenya, you can tell from the background that it’s NOT Kenya, AND somebody on Free Republic admits that he created that photo as a joke. I’m sorry that I don’t remember which freeper it was, but I read his comment recently. If anybody’s interested, I can try to find it but it won’t be easy. Suffice it to say that the billboard IS and was a joke. The LFCOLB didn’t “punk” us because we knew from the moment it appeared that it was bogus. We cried BS, as soon as it was released. It was BS and it remains BS. Nothing wrong with exposing the lame attempts that some make to punk us but we are dogged. They WILL NOT wear us down. We WILL NOT easily fall for their Alinsky tactics (although Zahn says the Barrry Soetoro site was put up by a Republican and I doubt that freeper is a progressive, but he may be). Because we have open minds and because we consider all the evidence, no matter where it comes from (but do take fogblower evidence with a grain of salt) WE’RE NOT EASILY PUNKED. btw, iirc, we knew that Occidental/foreign student thing was an April Fool’s joke, too.
I’m very late to this party and I haven’t read the comments, so what I’m about to say may very well have been said already.
Here are my observations:
1) It says “original birth certificate”, not “initial birth certificate”
2) “The information contained in … and reviewed by me” leaves wiggle-room. It does not say “ALL of the information contained in…” and we don’t know whether they are confirming ALL of the information or just the fields that they chose to “review”.
3) Once again, it’s not really signed by Onaka, but rather by someone else who wrote their initials. That is unacceptable. It MUST be Onaka. I believe he is the only one with the authority to do so. To have it done by someone else is a shell game.
In my opinion as an amateur genealogist, the VERIFICATION OF BIRTH issued by the Hawaii DOH on May 31, 2012 prompts clarification.
According to Hawaii VITAL STATISTICS CHAPTER 338 – – –
§338-21 Children born to parents not married to each other ……….
The child or children or the parents thereof may petition the department of health to issue a NEW ORIGINAL CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH, and not a duplicate of the original certificate that has been amended, altered, or modified, in the new name of the child, and the department shall issue the NEW ORIGINAL CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH. As used in this section “name” includes the first name, middle name, or last name.
(b) The evidence upon which the NEW ORIGINAL CERTIFICATE is made, and the SUPERSEDED ORIGINAL CERTIFICATE shall be sealed and filed and may be opened only upon order of a court of record.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0021.htm
The question should be…….
Is the information from the Barack Hussein Obama birth certificate document posted on the White House web site at – – –
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate
identical to the information on the ORIGINAL birth certificate issued by the Hawaii Department of Health AT THE TIME OF BIRTH for the child born to Stanley A. Dunham on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii?
Is the name of the child Barrack Hussein Obama?
If not, what was the name given to the child?
Was Stanley A. Dunham single or married?
Did the actual birth take place in Honolulu, Hawaii?
Were there amendments made to the ORIGINAL birth certificate?
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Is there a concerned judge who has the courage to issue a court order that requires Hawaii DOH to release Obama’s sealed ORIGINAL birth certificate?
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Thank you for that, Jonah. Excellent commentary. This does seem to be yet another plausible scenario and it curiously falls in line with our discussion about how the lawyers in Mississippi who filed that motion apparently misspelled his first name: Barak versus Barack. In addition, they habitually don’t include the “II” which allegedly was on his birth certificate. This could also explain why he pretends not to know whether or not his parents were married. BUT if they were not, then how can obots explain that birth announcement? And that she used the name Ann or Stanley Ann Obama (at least in the contemporaneous city directories. I’ve never seen that she used the name professionaly, although she did use Soetoro and Sutoro). I’ve been puzzling over why BHO Sr. returned to Hawaii when Barry was 10. btw, WHERE WAS MAYA during that Christmas in Hawaii with daddy BHO Sr., Ann, and Barry? She’s not pictured AND she was a newborn. Did her father Lolo not accompany his wife and new child to Hawaii? Did Ann leave her newborn in Indonesia with Lolo’s mother? OR was that the Christmas before Maya’s birth? In which case, Ann was pregnant (most likely), so did the expectant mother fly half way around the world to ditch Barry with her parents BECAUSE she was expecting a new baby (perhaps her first biological child) and Barry wasn’t fitting into the new family scenario? Cold, isn’t it? Possible, too. It would explain why that photo of Ann with baby (pinheaded) Maya and Barry on the settee looks photoshopped. He may not have EVER been there. (Of course, there is that other photo of a chubby Barry with Maya and her personal nanny.) Nothing adds up. But back to the scenario: It may be that they found this loophole and took advantage of it to seal his records. They said that Ann used the Obama name to create the farce of a marriage for appearance’s sake. Maybe then Lolo adopted Barry and he became Barry Soetoro. Then he went to Hawaii and resumed the name of Barry Obama (which is what he used at Punahou). Then at some point, around 1980 but before he went to Columbia, he decided to be Barack Obama and so he got his records changed. Or maybe he didn’t, but when he learned in 2007 about his problem with the amended birth certificate listing all the changes and the reasons for it, they researched and found out that if his parents were never married, he could make use of §338-21 and get his “new original birth certificate” and so Madelyn swore that Ann lied about being married. OR it could be that Hawaii did all this FOR HIM. Their lawyers found the loophole. THEY disappeared the marriage records (but then there’s that pesky index record they released to show that Ann and BHO Sr. were married). In any case, if he then went to Hawaii to petition for a new name and a new “original birth certificate”, I can see them bending their rules to give it to him. Argh. This makes my head hurt. Bottom line: The ONLY way to know if he’s a natural born citizen is to see and forensically examine EVERY LAST DOCUMENT THAT HAWAII HAS ON HIM.
Hey, Red Pill! Good to hear from you on this topic. Your observations are all excellent. Worth pointing out again that difference in terminology. “Original” is not necessarily the “initial” birth certificate. They use different terms and it’s easy for them to parse to obfuscate. I don’t remember anybody else mentioning the part about “reviewed by me” so that is a most excellent observation! That could be a loophole large enough to fly Air Force One through. As for the signature, we can’t tell if it’s an actual signature or a signature stamp, but the initials ARE Onaka’s and it’s said that he initialed his signature, which I guess implies that’s a signature stamp. The thing is, they are pointing out the differences between this verification letter and the one Bennett got, which means they RECOGNIZE that the item Bennett got does NOT have Onaka’s signature initialed BY Onaka and it does NOT verify Barry’s date of birth (or parents, but they didn’t mention the parents in the obotic lamestream stories) and, finally, it’s NOT embossed with the official registrar’s seal. So it seems to me that they admit that what Bennett got is NOT legally valid. Somebody ought to notify Sec. Bennett about the difference and ask him to revisit the issue of whether Hawaii actually verified what he thinks they did and what he expects us to believe that they did.
Ever since:
“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is”,
one must carefully parse anything a Democrat says.
How well we have learned that fact! Good parsing on your part. Every time I read this stuff, I realize some new catch or see a new loophole.
This is off topic from Barky, but read this. It makes me sick, and notice who committed this horrible crime.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2156784/Horror-teenage-girls-stab-female-pizza-delivery-worker-50-times-deadly-knife-rampage.html
BTW, this happened in a small town in GA. She was 27 years old, mother of a 4-year-old and you need to read that. Look who committed the crime. It’s here too:
http://www.gadailynews.com/news/114013-pizza-delivery-driver-elizabeth-hutcheson-stabbed-50-times.html
From one of our readers…
“I seem to remember reading a long time ago (don’t remember where) that in 1961 SAD’s race on the BC should have been listed as WHITE not Caucasian. What do you think?”
*****
My BC says White, not Caucasian, and both my parents are also listed as White. Is there anyone blogging born in the 1960’s that can tell us what is stated on their BC?
I was born in the ’50s, but my BC is in our lock box. I don’t remember.
My husband’s (1955) and my (1959) Illinois Birth Certificates both state White.
Before I forget, here’s something that was mentioned on Free Republic (I did go check to see if they’re discussing the MS letter of verification): http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2892746/posts?q=1&;page=101 comment 106:
“there are no additional security features to prevent tampering. That is what I have always found lacking with Hawaii. ANY certified form I have ever received, be it school transcripts, things from state of local governments, ALL had an additional security feature built in. If you scanned the copy, you would see something like VOID all across the page. Hawaii’s “security paper” doesn’t do that.”
Seems to me that Mitt Romney’s DOES say “void” from scanning it, but his is from Michigan. I wondered why it said that and thought that his campaign added it or that the reporter did, before publishing it.
But seems like this commenter is saying that the security paper has a feature in it that causes that word “void” to appear, when it’s scanned.
Remember that NEITHER of Barry’s so-called scanned documents say “void” on them ALTHOUGH THEY APPEAR TO BE PRINTED ON SECURITY PAPER. The commenter from FR says that Hawaii’s doesn’t have this feature and so doesn’t say “void” when scanned. But someone else provided a link to a now-SCRUBBED image of a Hawaiian BC that DOES say “void”. So their security paper DOES have the feature, only not, apparently, when the “documents” belong to OBAMA. So what can we conclude from this? Either miraculously and coincidentally, only Obama’s two documents were printed on security paper that did not have the “voiding” feature when scanned OR, as we suspected all along and as Arpaio says is probably true: Obama’s LFCOLB (and probably the SFCOLB) do NOT EXIST IN THREE DIMENSIONS. BOTH ARE COMPUTER-GENERATED IMAGES. THE SECURITY “PAPER” DOESN’T EXIST AS PAPER. IT’S A COMPUTER-GENERATED PATTERN OF PIXELS ADDED TO MAKE THE DIGITAL IMAGE APPEAR TO BE PRINTED ON SECURITY PAPER. THERE IS NO THREE-DIMENSIONAL PAPER THAT WAS SCANNED TO MAKE EITHER THE SFCOLB IMAGE OR THE LFCOLB IMAGE. If Obama HAS two certified copies of his original birth certificate, they don’t look exactly like that image on the WH BLOG. They simply DO NOT. See the voided Hawaiian certificate here. (However, that COLB was generated in 1991, so I don’t know if that feature existed in Hawaii then. Even so, this image says “void” and Barry’s do not. Why not?) And Romney’s also says “void”. Why doesn’t Barry’s?
On that same FR thread, on the previous page of comments, there’s some interesting discussion about the seal on the MS letter of verification. Apparently, it’s not Onaka’s seal (registrar’s seal) but IS the Director of Health’s seal. What should be on the letter are the same exact seals that are on a certified copy of a birth certificate. What’s interesting is that NO embossed seal is on the version that Bennett got. So, if you ask me, AZ is or should be back at square one: He HAS NOT proved his eligibility to be on the ballot and Hawaii has NOT officially verified the data items that they did mention on that letter. Since they didn’t specifically verify his date of birth or parents, he’s not eligible until he proves those facts. Somebody, such as Orly Taitz, ought to point out to the AZ Sec. of State that the letter he got is not a legal document. Lower down on that same page of comments that I linked to, someone else talks about the types of embossed seals and that some security paper will say “void” when photocopied (on a Xerox?) but maybe not when scanned. So more confusion. The secure embossed seals are designed to NOT show up when scanned. More confusion. The secure ones don’t distort or wrinkle the paper, as you can see did happen on that letter of verification. Personally, I think that image looks as bogus as all the others we’ve seen.
Note on the Voided copy of Peter’s Hawaiian certificate that is shown above in Miri’s sentence, the following wording that is on it is missing from the bottom of BHO’s. The second statement is quite significant isn’t it? The form information that is on other Hawaiian forms is also missing (ORM- RS-1), as is the invalidation statement. Will have to check Miki’s to see if it is on hers. Why would they eliminate those items?
Left to right at the bottom:
ORM RS-1,1 (Rev. 1/89)
This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding. (HRS 338-13(b), 338-19)
Any alternations invalidate this certificate
I checked Miki Booth’s and that wording is on hers. It is here at the beginning of the article.
BHO’s LFBC
That is a very good point. We have noticed txe (snark!) difference in wording of Onaka’s certification but we never did notice that the notification about alterations invalidating the document is missing. SURELY there’s a Hawaiian policy that spells out what wording is required for the form AND the registrar’s certification. Also, I suppose Barry’s “birth certificate” (which doesn’t exist but if it did it…) doesn’t qualify as “prima facie evidence” of diddly squat.
Mine says white, too, but I wasn’t born in the ’60s.
I’m clarifying this! I checked my bc and my hubby’s today. Both say “white” for our parents even though our parents were not completely, genetically speaking, white. What my bc asks is for “race OR color”. Somebody wrote “white” for both of my parents and for both of my hubby’s parents, although not all four were completely “white”. I also noticed that my mother never signed my bc! It asks for mother’s name OR signature. They typed in her name. My mother’s bc, however, doesn’t say “white”. It has ethnicities! Not color. Not race. It’s like that Hawaiian bc I saw earlier this week that said, “Filipino/Chinese”. So, when, if ever, did they supposedly standardize these categories? You know what else differs? Under the bc#, there’s a registrar’s number AND a number that seems to indicate a geographical area. And in both our cases, the bc’s were SIGNED at least 2 weeks BEFORE they were filed with the registrar! Over two weeks in my husband’s case. And we didn’t live in any rural area or far-flung islands that would explain the delay. Curious.
1948..husband..white
1950..me …white
Most influential political posts?? [Who decided and how?]
The first few rated are all the heavy hitters from the Left….and going through them I don’t recognize many as right wing. Are these mostly Soros funded blogs? Who is technorati? What is the criteria for the ratings? What do you think?
http://technorati.com/blogs/directory/politics/page-6/
Just camels and chickens? Is this worse than having a shoe thrown? Wow…insulting much? I guess that is the best they can offer in Somalia. I am sure Obama and Hillary are quaking in their boots. They aren’t too hard to find so this is just mocking the price put on the heads of their most wanted terrorists. Will our FBI or CIA be on the case?
Al Qaeda Offshoot Offers Camels for Obama’s Head, Hens for Hillary Clinton’s
June 10, 2012 Snips
The al Qaeda affiliate in Somalia has mocked the new $33 million bounty on its top leaders heads by offering its own bounty for President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton – 10 camels for Obama and 20 chickens for Clinton.
“Anyone who helps the Mujahideen find the whereabouts of Obama and Hillary Clinton will be rewarded with 10 Camels to the information leading to Obama and 10 hens and 10 cocks for Hillary,” said senior Shabaab commander Fuad Mohamed Khalaf in a statement reported on numerous websites.
http://news.yahoo.com/al-qaeda-offshoot-offers-camels-obamas-head-hens-165924543–abc-news-topstories.html
I shall refrain from snarking about the “10 cocks for Hillary.”
😆 :lol;
First mention of seeing Obama’s body doubles that I’ve seen!
Obama’s first post-Wisconsin fundraiser “memejacked” by S.F. Tea Party
June 7, 2012 – 11:12 am – by Zombie Snips
President Obama sprinted through San Francisco on June 6 to attend yet two more high-end fundraisers. And I dogged him every step of the way. Although Obama studiously avoided mentioning the Wisconsin election results during either of his speeches in S.F., Tea Party protesters rubbed his face in his party’s painful defeat yesterday, as we shall soon see.
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Obama has been to the Bay Area to withdraw cash so many times this campaign season that everyone seems to have lost count. Let’s follow Obama on his visit to the ATM known as San Francisco.
The first of two identical limousines drove by. People waved and yelled. But as an old Obama Hand, I know that he’s almost never in the first limousine — he’s in the second one. I squinted through the window and saw that I was correct — it was a body-double.
“Hello, Mr. Body Double!” everyone waved at the first car, as Obama slipped past them in the second.
I also took note of (and tried, with only marginal success, to snap pictures of) the strange Soviet-style red-and-gold pins each journalist wore. There were two styles: arch-shaped for the professional media……and hexagonal for Obama’s staff photographers. Or at least that was my best guess.
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In this video sent in by a contributor, the Tea Party chants “With Obama what do you get? Nothing but crushing debt.”
http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2012/06/07/obamas-first-post-wisconsin-fundraiser-memejacked-by-s-f-tea-party/
!!!!!!! Amazing. Confirmation achieved. Body doubles. OMG.
Tangentially related. I think we heard about this before but not that Issa is investigating. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/08/Obama-Labor-Dept-Forces-Journalists-to-Use-Government-Issued-Computers
“Journalists are crying foul at a new Obama policy that will deny them the right to use their own computers to write stories from economic data issued inside the halls of the Department of Labor. Instead, the DoL says, journalists will have to use government-owned computers, government-selected software, and government-owned Internet transmission lines to write their stories about the data issued by the department.”
The thing is: They’re worried about freedom of the press. I understand that and it’s really heavy-handed and Big Brother-ish to try to force this on the reporters. I love it that they suddenly wonder whether Barry will be censoring, reading their stuff in advance, or keeping some stories from going out. Wanna bet what’s the answer? One thing not implied, but it’s a real possibility–they want to INTIMIDATE them in advance into writing gushy stories and self-censoring because they KNOW Big Bro is watching and if they don’t, he will come down on them like a ton of bricks and at the very least, they’ll lose their “access”. But my problem with this is: WHY SHOULD WE THE PEOPLE PAY FOR THEIR COMPUTER RESOURCES SO THEY CAN PUT OUT BARRY’S TALKING POINTS FOR HIM AND LIE TO US, WHO ARE PAYING FOR THE COMPUTERS AND TRANSMISSION LINES? NO WAY! This is discriminatory because SURELY other reporters won’t have the access that these hand-picked lamestream reporters have. Will Breitbart’s people be allowed into DoL to use their resources? How about Michelle Malkin? Glenn Beck?
Now the journalists worry – when it involves them! It didn’t matter if they were using propaganda, they thought they were safe from the tyranny! Now they know, they are not safe just like we aren’t from the over reaching communists in the White House and the government.
So if they have to use government issued computers, those computers can also be confiscated for whatever reason. Perhaps they want to know the journalists sources and who they are corresponding with at any one time. A nice contact list would be in their hands. Ooops! Will the Lefties rights be removed and will they be silenced to only spread the “Party” line? Welcome to China journolistas!
Transmission lines that can be cut off at any time if the Obama regime doesn’t like what they are writing…sounds of bleating are heard from the beyond foolish Obama sheep!
First they came for the Jews …
Yes, when THEIR ox is being gored, then they squeal. Did they really think they were immune? I can’t remember who it was but someone recently said that the media will be the FIRST to go, if these commie tyrants ever do manage to enact their totalitarianism. Suddenly, they care about THE CONSTITUTION.
They’re expected to use government computers, transmission lines, AND SOFTWARE. The software can EASILY secretly do all kinds of things, including probably keystroke logging so obots in the bowels of the WH or even his Chi-town campaign headquarters can get a heads up on EVERY story in real time. Isn’t that special? It’s appalling. But do they even BOTHER to REPORT this? No.
totally unconstitutional. violation of freedom of press. “chilling effect”. would never stand up in court. even the libs on the supreme court would say no way.
it would be 9-0 like the recent Tabor freedom of religion decision. the contraception mandate won’t hold up either. not that it will matter, i think Obamacare will go down. my guess is 6-3 striking the whole thing, otherwise 5-4. i don’t see how they don’t strike the whole thing because there’s no severability clause and they’re not gonna go through the 2000 pages and figure out what stays. they’ll send it back to congress to figure out
I’d agree with you but so many incidents over the last 4 years are things that I NEVER thought I’d see happen in America, not in my wildest dreams. Who could foresee or explain the total news blackouts on certain stories? Like we’re living in Red China or Soviet Russia, with state-controlled media! So much that’s happened is completely and obviously unconstitutional, even to someone without special education in the Constitution. The words of the Constitution are so plain that any normally intelligent person could read them and then understand immediately that much of what Obama does violates the Constitution.
Just this morning, we saw that the Commerce Secretary is under suspicion of causing two auto accidents. They say it’s out of character for him. Hubby asked who he is. Neither of us has ever heard of the guy. Why? Because he’s only a figurehead. Whoever REALLY does his job is one of Barry’s unconstitutional czars. That’s why the Commerce Secretary is unknown to the public. He doesn’t do anything because an unelected and unaccountable czar really does his job.
http://www.infowars.com/lord-moncktons-hereditary-peers-briefing-paper-is-the-president-the-president/
Lord Monckton wrote:
“Unlike petitioners in other states, Mr. McInnish was not denied standing and may recommence his petition in the state District Court. In the light of the judge’s obiter dictum, and of the forensic and other evidence outlined here, Hawaii cannot rely upon the “full faith and credit” provision (Art. IV, s. 1) to require other States to accept the birth certificate as genuine. If it is the forgery it appears to be, at least one person at the Hawaii Health Department knows it is a forgery. But it is not clear whether the White House knows. [pshaw!]
Attorneys for anyone accused of a criminal offence signed into statute by President Obama under Art. I, s. 7, have the right to request access by their forensic investigators to the Hawaii Health Department’s original birth record for Mr. Obama to satisfy them that the President is the President, the statute the statute and the alleged offence an offence. By the precedent set in Brady v. Maryland (373 US 83, 1963), “The suppression by the prosecution of evidence favorable to an accused upon request violates due process [14th Amdt.] where the evidence is material either to guilt or to punishment”. Therefore, the courts will be obliged to grant any such defence request. By the supremacy clause (Art. 6), Hawaii must comply.
Does the issue matter? Advice from an eminent constitutional lawyer is that it does: “The Constitution is the supreme law of the US. We amend it, or we abide by it.” He expects a credible court challenge to the authenticity of Mr. Obama’s birth certificate soon. If it occurs, and if the certificate is a forgery, the constitutional consequences will be grave.”
There’s a lot here. I haven’t had time to read it all yet. Is this hopeful? I hope!
And an update on another story: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/mccain-eric-holder-has-no-credibility-to-oversee-leaks-investigation/
You’ll be happy to learn that Eric Holder has appointed two guys to investigate themselves (the administration). With regard to those leaks that McCain and others in Congress want to have investigated by an independent prosecutor. Nope! Barry and Holder will have none of THAT. These two guys they appoint to investigate them (Barry’s and Holder’s administration) will look high and low. Wanna guess what they’ll say: “Investigation of ourselves shows nothing. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.”
btw, Barry is “offended” that anybody even suggests that he might be violating national security via these leaks just to make himself look good. You know what offends me? A potus who actually does this crap. Puts the lives of others at risk just so he can take credit for the accomplishments of others. Let me repeat: This cyberspying program was imagined by GWB and the Israelis. Figured out. Put in place by them.
Barry uses it, takes credit for it, and risks the lives of everyone involved in developing it. And it opens the door for other countries to use the same tactics against us. TY, Barry.
This here is DYN-O-MITE: The judiciary committee grows some. http://judiciary.house.gov/news/Statement%20Oversight%20DOJ%20Hearing.html
“Chairman Smith: Regrettably, the Obama administration has shown a disregard for the Constitution and rule of law in an effort to impose their agenda on the American people. There are many examples.
Efforts to block congressional inquiries about the Administration’s actions undermine the balance of power on which our nation was founded.
The Department of Justice still has not provided enough information about Operation Fast and Furious so that the American public and Congress can judge who in the Department bears responsibility for the decisions that led to Agent Brian Terry’s death.
The Justice Department refuses to comply with Congressional subpoenas that may shed light on why this program was authorized and who had knowledge of the inappropriate tactics.
The Department of Justice also has failed to provide relevant information that would have revealed the extent of Justice Kagan’s involvement in the development of the Affordable Care Act when she was Solicitor General.
If she did give counsel on the health care bill, which was her job, then she should recuse herself rather than evaluating the law as a member of the Supreme Court. The Justice Department has refused to let us interview her former assistant.
Neglecting to enforce or defend the laws enacted by Congress is another violation of the Administration’s constitutional obligation to the American people.
Under this President, the Justice Department has engaged in a pattern of selective enforcement of the law in order to advance its own partisan agenda.
For instance, the Obama administration has sought to prevent state and local authorities from enforcing immigration laws.
At the same time, the Justice Department has refused to bring cases against sanctuary cities that violate Federal law by prohibiting their officials from communicating with the Department of Homeland Security about illegal immigrants they encounter.
Such sanctuary cities directly challenge the federal government’s authority to enforce immigration laws.
The Administration’s unwillingness to uphold immigration laws has led to injuries and even death.
The Administration refuses to defend the Defense of Marriage Act, a law enacted by Congress and signed by then-President Bill Clinton.
This was a significant piece of legislation that was approved by a vote of 342 to 67 in the House and 85 to 14 in the Senate. Regardless of how one feels about the substance of the bill, the Department of Justice has an obligation to defend the laws of the land.
Efforts by the Administration to override election laws enacted by States also raise constitutional concerns.
Instead of acting to prevent voter fraud, the Department of Justice has challenged common-sense voter ID laws that require voters to identify themselves before they are allowed to vote.
The Department of Justice recently moved to block implementation of voter ID laws enacted by legislatures in Texas and South Carolina.
The Texas proposal was based on a similar law passed by the Indiana legislature, which was upheld by the Supreme Court in 2008. The Justice Department’s challenge to the law ignores Supreme Court precedent that affirms a state’s right to enact laws to protect the integrity of its elections.
The Department of Justice even threatened to sue Florida for trying to remove ineligible non-citizens from its voter rolls.
Why would the Department of Justice not want states to remove ineligible felons, ineligible non-citizens, and the dead from their voter rolls?
The Administration’s actions aren’t just wrong–they are arrogant, undemocratic, and an insult to the rule of law.
The Administration’s disregard for the Constitution and rule of law not only undermines our democracy, it threatens our national security.
The Justice Department has not taken the initiative to prosecute leaks of national security secrets. Recent leaks about a foiled bomb plot out of Yemen and a cyber attack against Iran are, in the words of Senate Intelligence Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein, “very detrimental . . . very concerning . . . [and] hurt our country.”
For the past three and half years, this Administration has engaged in a pattern of obstructionism, unaccountability, and partisanship.
The American people should have confidence that the Department of Justice fairly enforces laws. That confidence is lacking today. This hearing will explore how that confidence can be restored.”
That’s telling it like it is. He forgot to point out that the Dept. of Justice, under Holder, believes that White people are NOT protected by the Civil Rights or Voting Rights Acts. And so they don’t enforce violations of those laws when the perps are black and the victims white. Nor do they pursue hate crimes when the victims are white and the perps black.
“Diana West Discusses Obama’s Forged Birth Certificate and Selective Service Registration”
“Frank Gaffney’s Secure Freedom Radio With Diana West: DIANA WEST asks the question that the mainstream media has been intimidated into avoiding: is Barack Obama eligible to be president of the United States? Despite the results of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Unit, which found that both Obama’s birth certificate and Selective Service Registration card had been forged, Obama’s behavior in the ’08 elections and the very words of the Constitution itself, the government has not allowed for a thorough and fair investigation into the issue of Obama’s eligibility. West urges citizens to not blindly accept the Obama administration’s word, but to question authority over what could be the “biggest potential crime in all of American history.””
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/06/diana-west-discusses-obamas-forged.html
“Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Las Vegas: Obama Identity Document Fraud; Criminal Investigation”
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/06/sheriff-joe-arpaio-in-las-vegas-obama.html
Published on Jun 10, 2012:
He says he’s going to have a press conference in two/three weeks. It was a profitable trip to Hawaii by Zullo and the other deputy. They were looking into the birth certificate. He says there’s nowhere to go with this stuff because Holder reports to Barry. And the Selective Service reports to Barry, too. Arpaio says we need Congressional hearings on Barry’s BC, which is more important than “hookers” and the Secret Service. Nobody’s supporting Arpaio. Why’s everyone avoiding this topic? He’s not zeroed in whether Obama is here illegally and he’s not investigating the president. He’s investigating two documents that are fraud and forgery. He has jurisdiction because when Obama put the birth certificate out that may be a forgery, that means he may not have been born here and may not be eligible, so citizens in Arpaio’s jurisdiction have a right to know because they vote. Arpaio has standing and he took an oath of office to defend the Constitution, as did all public servants. It’s sad that nobody will “hop into the fray” to investigate this. He’s investigating because: “We don’t know who he is. … Everything’s sealed.”
If my new laptop goes bananas/crazy while here, there is something wrong with this site..I’ll let you know. Later.
There’s nothing wrong with the site. The “site” is WordPress and it consists of thousands of blogs. Ours is no different from any of the others except in style. WordPress messes with their software. They supply the software that runs the blogs, including the comment box. That’s the most annoying part of their recent changes. They seem to have been trying to “fix” the comment box for the longest time and every change, while it may fix one thing, it messes up something else.
Seems okay…but I also have been having trouble…I’m hoping uninstalling Norton that came with the new laptop fixed the problem, but I doubt it.
http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/06/10/senator-feinsteins-very-specific-code-word-regarding-barack-obama/
Anschluss
Hummmmmmmmmmmmm….
What’s up with this?????? Who were the three men he kept rear ending at a train crossing???
Commerce Secretary John Bryson accused in hit-and-run crashes
snip…..
According to his official biography, Bryson was chairman of Edison International, the parent company of Southern California Edison for 18 years until 2008.
“Throughout a distinguished career in which he’s led nonprofits, government agencies and large companies, he’s been a fierce proponent of alternative energy,” President Obama said in announcing Bryson’s nomination last year.
“As CEO, he created a competitive power subsidiary, the Mission Group, which expanded across the U.S. and was a global leader in the privatization of power plants and electric systems in Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, the Philippines and several European countries,” according to the biography. “Bryson has also served as a director on several public, educational and nonprofit boards, including The Boeing Company and The Walt Disney Company. He has also served as an adviser and a director of entrepreneurial and start-up companies including Coda Automotive, Inc. and BrightSource Energy. He was a senior adviser to the global investment firm Kohlberg Kravis Roberts (KKR).”
Earlier in his career, Bryson was an environmental lawyer and co-founder of the Natural Resources Defense Council.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/06/us-commerce-secretary-accused-in-hit-and-run-crashes-found-unconcious.html
This is also a snip from the link above. He actually struck the car, talked to them and came back and struck them again. CBS did not report this fact on their news this morning. Why? Why did he want to hit these guys? Who where they?
Bryson was driving a Lexus in the 400 block of South San Gabriel Boulevard shortly after 5 p.m. Saturday, when he allegedly rear-ended a Buick as it was waiting for a train to pass, according to a statement released by the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department and the San Gabriel Police Department.
After briefly stopping to talk to the three men inside the Buick, Bryson left the location in the Lexus and then struck the Buick a second time, authorities said. The men followed Bryson’s car and called 911 to ask for police assistance.
Bryson continued to drive his Lexus into Rosemead, which is patrolled by the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department. There, he allegedly crashed into a second vehicle near the intersection of San Gabriel Boulevard and Hellman Avenue.
There authorities found him alone and unconscious behind the wheel of his car.
So he got out in between seizures to talk to the guys? sounds more like a tiger woods situation. ambien, oxy?
According to Miss Tickly’s report, that is not the correct seal of Hawaii DOH, on the verification, and the verification to Bennet didn’t have a seal.
Tickly has a closed blog so where did she make that statement?
Yeah. I’d like to know, too.
Savannah….. took….. Pictures…. BC
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/what_did_savannah_guthrie_really_see.html
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/04/how_i_learned_to_love_savannah_guthrie.html
http://lockerz.com/s/96540721
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/04/oblivious_to_the_obvious.html
I thought you folks knew I had this stuff on the ole blog.
Page 231 contains the requirements for “Race and color.”
“Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and “other nonwhite.”
Thanks Ladys – I knew it was written somewhere but I couldn’t find it in my notes. I remembered the Negro classification, but couldn’t remember if it was Caucasian or White that was used on BC’s. We knew African wasn’t. So it is now clarified.
We have it on our blog, too. It’s been here for a long time. We just haven’t dug it up again to rehash it again. Someone asked the question and some of us answered. Based upon the other examples of Hawaiian birth records on the Web, they don’t follow the rules. I saw one yesterday that had one of the parents listed as “Filipino/Chinese”. That’s not on the list, either. They do nothing by the book, it seems.
Here are two places we discussed it, if anybody wants to rehash:
On the second link, you might have to search for “Aleut” to find the right comment. I know we also had these on TD’s blog, way back when. It might be elsewhere here; I didn’t look for every instance.
Yup, you’re welcome.
Is Turkey still an ally of the US – I thought they made the turn against us several years ago? Anti-Semitic Turkey got to decide and the US wasn’t strong enough to say they will be included? Or is Turkey the scapegoat for Obama?
Did the Obama Admin. Intentionally Exclude Israel from a Major Counterterrorism Conference?
June 11, 2012
An Israeli newspaper is reporting that the U.S. blocked Israel’s participation in a meeting of the State Department’s flagship counterterrorism project, the Global Counterterrorism Forum (GCTF). Considering Israel’s vast experience in fighting terror as a result of its frequent targeting by Palestinian terrorism, it’s surprising that Israel would be excluded from the meeting which took place on Friday in Istanbul. Globes reports:
A pro-Israeli source in Washington told “Globes” that Israel was excluded from the meeting because of fierce objections by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Israel tried hard to obtain an invitation to the meeting, and its exclusion, despite the tight US-Israeli intelligence ties, has greatly disappointed officials in Jerusalem.
The GCTF, one of the pillars of President Barack Obama’s antiterrorism campaign, was established in September 2011. The White House calls the forum as a wise use of force against terrorism, and chose Turkey as the forum’s joint chair, together with the US.
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The organization has 30 members, of which 10 are Muslim countries including Algeria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
GOP sources tell Globes, “since one third of the GCTF’s members are Muslim countries, the Obama administration is trying to deepen ties with the Muslim world at Israel’s expense. “ [We hadn’t noticed!]
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/did-the-obama-admin-intentionally-exclude-israel-from-a-major-counterterrorism-conference/
For only the 4th time in 30 years, Congress has launched a contempt action against a member of the Executive branch. It is now scheduled! I hope we see tread marks and fast! This is way past time. What will Holder do? I wish it were more than contempt that he was being charged with. Yet this is a start. How about adding other charges showing his inability to uphold the constitution!
Sen. Grassley: Contempt of Congress vote against Holder ‘straightforward and necessary’
June 11, 2012 Snips
Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley applauded House oversight committee Chairman Darrell Issa’s decision to hold a committee vote next week to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress, describing the action as “straightforward and necessary.”
Grassley, the ranking Republican member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has investigated Operation Fast and Furious alongside Issa for over a year and half. Holder has demonstrably failed to comply with all 22 parts of a congressional subpoena that Issa served him last October. With respect to 13 of the subpoena’s categories, Holder has provided no documents. He remains far from compliant on other subpoena categories as well.
“Contempt is the only tool Congress has to enforce a subpoena,” Grassley said in a Monday statement. “The Department of Justice can avoid the action by complying with its legal obligation. It’s not about personalities. It’s a procedural mechanism in our system of checks and balances.
On Monday, Issa announced that he plans to hold a vote in his committee next Wednesday, June 20, on whether to hold Holder in contempt. Since the measure will likely pass in committee, the contempt of Congress citation measure would then go to the full House of Representatives for a vote. Shortly after Issa’s Monday morning announcement, House Speaker John Boehner threw his weight behind it, saying he supports finding Holder in contempt if the administration keeps stonewalling on Fast and Furious.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/11/sen-grassley-contempt-of-congress-vote-against-holder-straightforward-and-necessary/
That was really good news and I was amazed to hear it on the news and they actually used the phrase “Fast and Furious.” I couldn’t help but put myself into the shoes of the ordinary citizen who gets news only from the lamestream. I could imagine that citizen puzzling: “What? Fast and Furious? What’s that? A movie?”
How are citizens supposed to know what Holder is stonewalling on when the media has steadfastly REFUSED to cover the stories? Do most Americans even know Agent Brian Terry’s name or that he was murdered because of our own Dept. of (in)Justice?
As is typical, Carney is already saying that Holder cooperated and testified many times. This will be the meme on the national news–not that he defied all those subpoenas and still is hiding documents.
Will the full House have the guts? We’ll see (as if Holder or Obama CARE if Congress finds them in contempt). Will they be “Cowards” as Glenn Beck claims?
The MSM is reporting real news? Is Holder going under the bus? When they report, it isn’t good for whomever. If they can keep the news on Holder, then Obama’s gaffs aren’t in the news cycle. “Our Private sector [economy] is doing just Fine!” said the Emptiest Suit ever to hold office…. as he continues to lie and spend our money on his campaign to Nowhere!
Basically, we haven’t seen this administration do anything that Congress or the People want so this will be no different. They thwart them whenever because they are above the law! So Holder gets contempt charges, so what? Getting him booted out on his rear end with criminal charges to follow is what we want to see.
They threw out a few names previously of who might be next in line for the AG position and the one I recall was no better than Holder. I can’t remember the name, but the man’s reputation was not one of integrity – so what’s new in the Obama administration! I think the Whistle blowers got the newest information to Issa, and Holder said that even though Fast and Furious was mentioned in the emails it didn’t mean the same Fast and Furious they were talking about! That was unbelievable. I think that goes to perjury! But then he will come back and say he misspoke. They never lie, they misspeak continually.
My guess is that the Obamacare decision is coming down real soon. Now we know from that video that Arpaio isn’t likely to have his presser for a couple more weeks. I had hoped mid-June means this week or sooner. Yes, they DO so want to get that “private sector is doing just fine” comment off the news. I heard that all over the radio this morning, too.
In the print media, most of the stories focus on how the Republicans jumped all over Barry for “misspeaking”. Poor widdle baby. How can we expect him to know what he’s saying? It wasn’t on TOTUS.
Their meme now is that they need to get MORE STIMULUS to hire more PUBLIC EMPLOYEES who belong to PUBLIC UNIONS who support BARRY! If his plan for small business is so great, then why wait 4 years to implement it? And the other pillar of his new meme is that they need to help those “folks” with their “underwater mortgages”. In other words, MORE BAILOUTS FOR VOTES. Take tax dollars from people who live responsibly and redistribute it to people who don’t. I say, instead of giving them the banks’ homes at taxpayer expense, instead give the homes to veterans of Obama’s wars. How’s that for redistribution?
BREAKING NEWS:
Top news on radio news this afternoon, after they ignore the issue for years:
http://www.inquisitr.com/252268/supreme-court-refuses-to-hear-birther-argument-relating-to-president-obama/
“The Supreme Court on Monday outright refused to hear an appeal that would challenge the legitimacy of President Obama’s citizenship and thereby his entire presidency.
The countries highest court did not offer any comment as to why they refused to hear the “birther” appeal filed by Alan Keyes, Wiley Drake and Markham Robinson. …
The court likely threw out the case after Hawaii’s own officials repeatedly verified Obama’s citizenship.
You may recall that Alan Keyes and Wiley Drake both ran against President Obama on the American Independent Party ticket in 2008 while Markham Robinson is the party’s chairman.
Given the strong push to prove President Obama a fraud it is likely this is not the last we’ll hear about the birther movement, although further distractions will likely stem from the state level where federal voting regulations over rule the decisions of individual states.”
The Supreme Court is no longer Supreme. How sad, how really sad. We the People have no recourse to tyranny now that they are compromised. Honorable can no longer be an adjective that describes those people in the black robes who sit in the highest court of the land.
I didn’t know that their case had gotten to the Supremes. It was kept under the radar apparently, or has been sitting there for awhile so that it was forgotten.
There’s a plethora of stories out there. Organized by the Journolist, no doubt. After they REFUSE to cover ANY of the ballot challenges, the multiple stories all read nearly identically. What a coincidence. Not one of these “reporters” thinks for himself or herself or bothers to stray from the PARTY LINE. There is no doubt that Alan Keyes had standing, as did the others who ran against Obama. This is a travesty of “justice” perpetrated by a sorry SCOTUS. What can we hope for the Obamacare decision?
Orly soldiers on and a hearing on the Indiana case is tomorrow. I hold out not much hope, though, because even when history AND THE LAW AND THE CONSTITUTION are on her side, these corrupt turds slap her down. How ironic for Orly of all people, who fled this crap in her birth country, only to see it follow her here. God bless and keep her. She loves this country far more than Obama does.
Speaking of Soviet Russia and Red China. Consider this and then think, “coming soon to a country near you:”
http://news.yahoo.com/police-search-putin-opponents-homes-rally-094039787.html
“MOSCOW (Reuters) – Russian police searched opposition leaders’ homes on Monday in morning raids intended to disrupt plans for a protest rally against President Vladimir Putin’s rule and show he has lost patience with demonstrations that are undermining his authority.
The searches before Tuesday’s rally were an aggressive turn after months of opposition rallies, signaling a tougher approach designed to crush dissent at the start of the former KGB spy’s new six-year term as president.
Several leaders were also summoned for questioning on Tuesday about violence at a rally on the eve of Putin’s May 7 inauguration, almost certainly stopping them from attending the first big planned protest since he returned to the Kremlin.
Armed police stood guard as investigators searched the apartments of anti-corruption blogger Alexei Navalny, leftist leader Sergei Udaltsov and other opposition figures, rifling through rooms and seizing computer drives and disks.”
Yes, coming here soon, if not here already. How so? Dana Loesch, member of Breitbart, conservative blogger, constitutional conservative radio host, was hassled, as was her husband, whose genitals got felt up, by the TSA as they returned from the Breitbart Awards (and also to a visit to Netroots, where Daily Kos and others excoriated her for being in attendance). Coincidence? I think not. Anybody who thinks this wasn’t a deliberate attempt top harass and intimidate is smoking their hemp underwear. http://thedanashow.wordpress.com/2012/06/10/a-date-with-the-tsa/
She tried to videotape but was ordered to stop. Today, she reports on her radio show that ALL CITIZENS HAVE A RIGHT TO FILM AND TAPE TSA IN ACTION SO LONG AS THEY DO NOT SLOW DOWN OR DISRUPT THE ACTIVITIES. IT’S RIGHT ON THE TSA WEBSITE. But they violated her husband’s rights and her rights by preventing her from taping the “sexual abuse” of her husband. She said they counted upon the fact that she had her kids with her and didn’t want anything untoward to affect them. A caller to her program, who’s worked in the Middle East, said that it is a typical ploy of the security people over there to claim someone has “nitrates” on them so that they can play “good cop/bad cop” with them and be able to intimidate, harass, or further question them.
Is this any way to treat a lady? The DemoncRATS and progressives claim that they want more “civility” in politics. So how is it that a sitting Senator can be downright RUDE to a constitutional conservative woman who asks only for a moment of his time? At the Netroots Nation convention, which progressives seemed to believe is reserved only for progressives, Dana Loesch tried to speak to Senator Sherrod Brown about Obamacare:
“Unfortunately, while the Senator stood and took questions from a number of progressive attendees, when I finally had an opening to ask my question, he refused.
“Senator, do you have a moment for a question?”
“Not for you,” he remarked, pointing at me, before rushing off with his assistant. I Tweeted about the exchange.
Later, Al Gore Tweeted in response “Awesome.” (See image above.)
He later deleted it, but not before I and others screencapped it.
Brown can’t rely on Gore to bail him out of his situation, and he would do well to not run from honest, politely asked questions from those who simply want answers.”
Dana, welcome to the club. However, since you also diss our “politely asked questions” about Barry’s ineligibility …
btw, I love Dana except for her lockstep refusal to look into Barry’s ineligibility. As do most of the Bretibarters and the others like Beck. We ask questions, honest questions, and we get back rudeness and insults, too. So, welcome to the club.
Imagine had a MALE Republican Senator said this to the likes of Ann Curry or Savannah Guthrie and then VP Cheney had publicly applauded the rudeness on Twitter. Do you think it would have been reported in the lamestream news?
War on Women? War on constitutional conservative women, fo shizzle. http://thedanashow.wordpress.com/2012/06/10/sherrod-brown-dodges-obamacare-question-at-netroots/
btw, here’s why I love Dana:
“Manwich: The two factions of the Democrat party: the Former “first black” President and the current “first gay” President.”
SNARK!!! Good one, Dana. From this post where she went into the belly of the beast.
I heard a little of Glenn Beck’s radio show today. He was touting his new book “Cowards” and in particular a chapter about how all the politicians are avoiding LIKE THE PLAGUE any conversation about or investigation into or even consideration of the VERY LIKELY POSSIBILITY that our enemies (Red China, Russia, Al Qaeda, Soros) will stage a PLANNED ECONOMIC CRASH in the USA and perhaps already did stage the 2008 crash. He says they’re “cowards.” He says for political reasons they just stick their heads in the sand BECAUSE they believe to tell Americans the truth might cause them to “panic.” Even a higher up at a national network (one can guess) told Beck that it’s their duty to NOT report this possibility to Americans, lest they “panic.” He said never in his life had he heard of a news organization that ignores real news that Americans need to know because they think they need to protect people from the truth. Really, Glenn? Really?
How about the COWARDS in the media, some VERY, VERY CLOSE TO YOU, YOURSELF, GLENN BECK, who won’t even consider the VERY REAL POSSIBILITY that our potus is INELIGIBLE for the office he’s squatting in? Why are YOU and all your cohorts helping this BLACKOUT on the truth?
Do you really think you know more than seasoned, professional detectives who’ve spent a cumulative nearly 100 years in law enforcement? These veterans of law enforcement, FEDERAL law enforcement, DETECTIVES in local and state law enforcement, who SAY WITHOUT EQUIVOCATION THAT OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS PROBABLY FORGED?
So, do we have an inkling into the cowardly thinking of ALL in Congress and the Courts? Do they fear that the disruption caused by Obama being found ineligible will result in an economic crash (or that in retaliation his friends will stage one?) That’s a possibility that I never considered.
But I ALWAYS thought the meme that they fear race riots to be ridiculous. However, if (SINCE) Obama is an infiltrator whose goal just may be to CRASH the US economy and since they admit that they won’t touch the possibility of planned sabotage that destroys our economy, do we have a clue into their thinking here?
So what? Do they think that if they bury their heads in the sand and IGNORE that he plans to DESTROY our country (what he calls “fundamental transformation”) that he will simply fail or go away and all will be well again?
Had they proved 4 years ago that he’s ineligible, we would not be teetering on the edge today, as he prepares to drive us right over the cliff.
Tickly …I read it also … bob s is spot on… I’m trying to find it…. kids!
Face off… fast & furious… kill list … O’s stonewalling corruption….
http://www.hillaryis44.org/
also .. TD has two new articles up …
Oh, it is election time, so she would return…if it is her. The last time she awakened it was for Scott Brown’s election. I won’t be visiting.
🙂 Great minds! “If it is her.” Love it! Operatives shall be operatives. Enuf said.
Yep. Invasion of the Blog Snatchers.
I’m not interested if she’s still pro-Hillary, as it seems.
Security….Leaker ‘ Tom Donilon…?
http://www.breitbart.com/
Exclusive: Caddell Names National Security Advisor Tom Donilon As Source For Leaks
June 11, 2012
Pat Caddell joined Stephen K. Bannon on the “Victory Sessions” and told him that National Security Advisor Tom Donilon is likely the source of recent intelligence leaks that have prompted calls for an investigation by Democrat Senator Diane Feinstein. Caddell explains that he is certain Donilon is the source of the leaks because of his background as a political operative and a known “leaker”.
The full interview is included in this clip. Caddell names Tom Donilon at the 8:40 mark
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/06/10/Exclusive-Caddell-Names-Tom-Donilon-As-Source-For-Leaks
Gotta love Donilon’s title, National Security Advisor, as he undermines the USA! I hope Caddell is correct in his assumption and that the leaker is so quickly identified. May his days as an operative be numbered. Will Congress still investigate to see if he is the only one or if there are several sources? Five major leaks…and does this amount to treason?
I’d rather see Brennan go. My guess is this is to head off the investigations. Donilon falls on his sword as the bus revs.
Why do they call them “leaks” when they’re not leaks? They’re planned announcements. Leaks, indeed. It all depends upon what the meaning of “leaks” is.
Another “volunteer” for bus tracks.
http://nation.foxnews.com/memorial-day/2012/06/11/team-obama-denies-veterans-access-vietnam-memorial
On Memorial Day, VETERANS were turned away from visiting the Viet Nam Memorial BECAUSE Barry was in attendance and for SECURITY they shut it down. As they shut down every place, everywhere he goes, no matter how he inconveniences others. As his family does the same–shutting down Disneyland and Mount Rushmore, to hell with the hoi polloi who may be using one of their rare vacation days to see these places, maybe on a once-in-a-lifetime vacation. It’s disgusting.
“Retired Army Lieutenant General John Sylvester was one of the vets turned away, and he spoke out about the rebuff on Fox and Friends. Sylvester said that he didn’t take offense on his own behalf, but on behalf of all those who died in the war. He said, “It’s about those 58,000 plus soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines that are represented on that wall. That wall is America’s wall. It is not the presidents wall.”
The organization of which Sylvester is a part, the 11th Armored Cavalry Association, gathers on both Memorial Day and Veterans Day to place a wreath on the wall and to “be able to stand there reflectively, to be able to reach up and touch names of real-life humans, people that we knew, and it is our day as veterans to go and honor those men who are represented on that wall.”
The DOD Office of Commemorations offered the following statement on the situation:
“It will be impossible to accommodate everyone who wishes to be present in front of The Wall for the Memorial Day ceremony but arrangements are being made to provide an additional viewing area. In addition, attendees will be able to see the events unfold on a JumboTron viewing screen at the site. Security will be very restrictive.”
While Sylvester can appreciate the level of security necessary for the president’s safety, he said The Wall was closed from before 9am until after 3pm, and that the president was there for only 16 minutes.”
The man who did not serve, the man who likely has a bogus draft registration, he gets to be front and center and the ACTUAL VETS GET TO WATCH ON A JUMBOTRON! Amazing.
My information is incorrect so I am removing the original comment to prevent others from misinterpreting it also. I carried over a typo from another comment and that is what I relied upon for my comment. Plus I looked at one of the forms and wasn’t sure I was seeing it correctly – which I didn’t. Sorry about this. Both forms were dated (08/01/01).
Form sent to Ken Bennett – AZ SOS – OHSM FORM V01 (08/01/01) not (09/01/01 as was stated previously.
Form sent to Mississippi Democratic Party – OHSM FORM V01 (08/01/01)
No forms at the DOH begin with V01 as previously noted.
http://www.hawaii.gov/forms/all-forms?b_start:int=540
Thanks Miri for the double check.
I’m confused. It looks to me as if Bennett’s says 08/01/01. https://wtpotus.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/supposed-verification-of-birth-copy.jpg Here’s the link from the AZ story: http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf
A royal screw-up on my part. I changed my comment above to reflect it. You weren’t confused, I was.
S’alright. When I searched for that form when this first came out, I was looking for 08/01/01, so it was important to know which was right. Seems I remembered looking when you first brought it up at the image somewhere and it was hard to tell if it was 08 or 09, but some of these other images are clearer. That day, I didn’t have time to look further and I thought somebody else would give a second opinion. 🙂
Still, where did that form come from and did anybody else EVER get one like it? They’re calling it “verification of birth”. Who would need one, when the presence of a body makes it rather self-evident?!
I did look at one yesterday and I really couldn’t tell what it was that is why I asked for clarification. I can’t find what I was looking at either..doesn’t matter because what you found was clear.
Saw this over at the facebook page “Harrison J. Bounell” (always lots of funnies and interesting links). It was captioned,”Wonder what they were celebrating in 1962″. Any names show up in the crevices of the minds and archives here? http://www.sigmapiphi.org/home/archons-and-archousai-in-hawaii.php
I don’t recognize any of the names but it’s interesting that a black fraternity is celebrating in Hawaii and some of the “folks” were from Chicago and DC. Is this the REAL African-American “royalty”? 🙂 Nice hat!
Oh, my, and here we have been given the impression that Obama Sr. was an oddity as a Black on the island
The NAMES !