Orange Is the Color of the Animas River’s Soul

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Hurriedly constructed retention ponds, built in an attempt to contain and treat the water spilling from the Gold King Mine.

Orange appears to be a recurring theme for us lately.

Over a week ago (!), the EPA (technically, one of their contractors) turned the Animas River in Colorado a putrid curry orange, when they spilled into the river a tremendous amount of contaminated waste water from a defunct mine. This “accident” happened while the EPA was allegedly trying to prevent a spill and “clean up” a mine that’s been inactive for over 90 years. Their bone-headed blunder is raising many questions in the blogosphere.

Heck of a job, Barry!!!

With “protection” like Barry Obama’s EPA gave to Colorado’s environment, who needs evil capitalist polluters?

Where are you, anyway, Barry? Will you take responsibility for your very own “Hurricane Katrina”? Oh, yeah. Nearly forgot: you’re golfing on Martha’s Vineyard. As usual.

How long before somebody’s head rolls for this misjudgement, which a retired geologist publicly warned about over a week before?

Common sense tells any reasonable being that if you deliberately plug some outlets and allow water to build up in tunnels of interconnected mines on the same mountain, or deliberately raise the water table on that very same mountain, then something’s gonna give somewhere, somehow.

One question many have is why this story has been flying below the radar for over a week? My own local paper didn’t report on the spill until a week later, when they finally picked up this story that, in a backhanded way, blames the locals and the mining companies for the spill, even though the spill was caused by the EPA’s blundering!  In typical JournoList fashion, the mainstream media must have been waiting for Obama’s excuses to be invented so they could be dutifully repeated ad nauseum.

Local authorities and mining companies, the “journalists” argue, resisted having the area named a Superfund Site because they feared “stigma”, which would cause a loss of tourism dollars and/or an end to any further mining. Then that old bugaboo was trotted out: these local folks simply “haven’t trusted the federal government.” Imagine that. They must be bitter clingers, too.

Some writers, however, have suggested that perhaps this accident wasn’t very accidental.  They wonder whether or not the EPA deliberately caused the spill in order to force the issue, to get access to more federal “emergency” monies, to build a huge treatment plant, to hire thousands of workers, and to increase regulation and put more land off limits to mining. Sounds like a plan! A plan typical of the Obama administration, so don’t rule it out, out of hand.

Also typical of the Obama administration was the “agreement of sorts” made between the EPA and the locals and the mining companies, wherein the government would apparently behave as if this were a Superfund site without, however, actually labeling it as one. This deal somehow allowed the EPA to cough up 1.5 million of taxpayer dollars to clean up what nobody else wanted to pay to clean up. Sounds like another Obama administration end run around laws duly passed by Congress.

Interestingly enough, the EPA knew that their solution to this toxic solution might cause problems elsewhere:

At the Red and Bonita Mine, where polluted water is pouring out at 500 gallons per minute, Environmental Protection Agency workers would like to put a stop to the flow by September, said Steven Way, on-scene coordinator for the agency. …

The $1.5 million construction project is set to start in mid-July, and it will require workers to muck out nontoxic mineral deposits from the floor of the mine before installing a concrete bulkhead. It is not a Superfund project, but the EPA plans to pay for it, Way said. [Via what accounting gimmick, the story does not explain.] 

The EPA understands that this new bulkhead could have the same effect as the American Tunnel bulkheads and cause water to drain from other mines. As a result, the agency plans to monitor the Gold King number 7 level and the Mogul because they are both nearby, Way said. …

“This, in a way, is as much an experiment as the American Tunnel,” said Steve Fearn, co-coordinator of the Animas River Stakeholders Group.

A 1.5 million dollar failed experiment that will now cost who knows how many more taxpayer dollars to fix? As I said,

Heck of a job, Barry!!!

The president of the Navajo Nation says the EPA lied to him about the seriousness of the spill and now he questions everything they tell him. Join the club! Two thirds of the Animas River flows through the Navajo Nation, affecting all their people.

Residents throughout the affected area were kept in the dark about the spill for 24 hours. Why? The people might have taken steps to protect themselves and their livestock in the meantime. One can only wonder what kind of discussions were taking place in the bowels of the White House, as they formulated their excuses and chose the lucky scapegoats.

Where did the money come from to pay this contractor? Not yet explained, although supposedly Congressional investigations will take place.

What effect did Barry’s campaign to put coal companies out of business have on the lack of money for mining cleanup?

It wasn’t until the federal Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act passed in 1977 that mining operators had to create a plan for cleaning up defunct mines.

That act established funding for states to clean up long-abandoned mines, like the Gold King (which closed in the 1920s). But funds, drawn from taxes on coal-mining companies, are limited.

Just another of the unforeseen consequences of deliberately putting coal companies out of business–they won’t be paying taxes anymore.

Back in February, Democrat Representative Raul Grijalva introduced a bill, the Hardrock Mining Reform and Reclamation Act, which would

-Establish an 8 percent royalty on new mines and a 4 percent royalty on existing mines to bring a fair return to American taxpayers.

-Use those royalties and money raised by newly established pollution fees to clean up abandoned hard-rock mine lands across the country.

-End the antiquated patenting system that allows companies to purchase mineral-containing public land for as little as $2.50 per acre.

-Establish strong reclamation standards and bonding requirements to make sure taxpayers don’t pay for cleanups if a company skips town or goes bankrupt.

-Provide clear authority to federal land managers to reject a proposed mine if it would unduly degrade public lands or resources.

Protect wilderness study areas, roadless areas, and wild and scenic rivers from mining.

-Empower state, local, and tribal governments to petition federal authorities to withdraw certain areas from mining to protect drinking water, wildlife habitat, cultural and historic resources, or other important values.

What a convenient “wakeup call” this “accident” provides to further Rep. Grijalva’s quest to give the federal government, in the form of unelected bureaucrats, more control over “public lands”. Wait for Obama to argue that if the bill hadn’t been stalled in Congress, then this spill would never have happened.

More questions:

What was the contractor’s name and is the contractor exempt from prosecution or lawsuits? The contractor whose employees caused the spill is now identified as Environmental Restoration LLC (aka, ER. Note: a limited liability corporation). The contractor refers to a privacy clause in its contract that keeps them from commenting, but they issued a statement, found at this link. Apparently, the company has done a lot of work for the government:

ER has gotten $381 million in government contracts since October 2007, according to a WSJ review of data from About $364 million of that funding came from the EPA, but only $37 million was given to ER for work they had done in Colorado.

A million here, a million there. All the money extracted from the wallets of We the People is fungible. One must wonder what “branch” of the  EPA paid for this “experiment”.

Why was the incident initially downplayed? Earlier reports claimed that the spill consisted of a million gallons of toxic waste, but that grew to an (admitted to) three million gallons.

Suddenly and apparently miraculously, however, things are looking up, after having been very “dire” early on.

The situation seems much less dire now, according to recent tests of the river. Local drinking water is safe, but the intake valves from the river have been shut off. The state Parks and Wildlife Department reports no dead fish have been spotted along the water. Larry Wolk, Colorado’s top health official, told CNN Tuesday that early tests show that the water near Durango, the Colorado city where the spill originated, “doesn’t appear” to pose a health risk, but didn’t specify to whom—humans, wildlife, local ecosystems, or all three.


Compare to this early article that discussed the potential effects:

And our river will continue to look like crap for a while. Even once the color becomes less sickening looking, the toxic heavy metals will remain. No fish will be left. Plant life will be decimated. This water is the secondary drinking water source for Durango, CO. A few more miles downstream, it is the primary drinking water source for Aztec & Farmington, New Mexico. It will eventually work its way to Lake Powell…

Nothing will bring the fish back any time soon. All human activity has been banned from the river–and our Sheriff has applied the force of Law, making it illegal to enter the river. Rafting companies are out of business. Fishing guides are out of business. Ranchers who water their livestock have been advised to secure their animals away from the water. Officials have advised that the water will kill your small pet. No swimming, floating, fishing allowed. And the river is used for irrigation by ranchers for their hay to feed their livestock over the Winter–or rather, it used to be. Grasses suck up that toxic slop, making it unsafe for critters to eat.

It seems that as soon as the story began to get legs in the mainstream media and  attention in the blogosphere and from some presidential candidates, the problem was solved.

The EPA accepted responsibility and apologized. The river is clear again, as if that means anything. Little fishies (all but one) survived immersion in the sludge. Bugs are still swimming around. (Keep in mind that these are probably native creatures that are quite well adapted to that environment, which is awash in heavy metals.  Indeed, if it weren’t, there wouldn’t be mines there in the first place.)

Even the Democrat governor of Colorado was photographed drinking water (allegedly) right out of the river. What a guy! Hopefully, it won’t kill him, but it will, alas, “kill your small pet.” Or will it?

Nothing to see here, folks. MOVE ON.

We hear the typical rationalizations and excuses that follow any disaster that happens on Obama’s watch.

For example, if the locals would have allowed the declaration of a Superfund Site, this wouldn’t have happened. (So it’s their fault. But it also begs the question: Under Superfund, would the contractor have behaved differently?)

Another excuse: The earth holding back the wall of sludge would have failed sooner or later, so it’s not the fault of the EPA’s contractor (even though the EPA plugged the other mines, causing tunnels in connected mines to fill with water and raising the water table, causing even unconnected mines to fill with water, raising the water pressure on the earth holding back the sludge, causing … the “accident”.)

This “accident” seems more than a little too convenient, considering Grijalva’s bill (supported by Obama), the controversial rules changes to the Clean Water Act, the expressed desire of some presidential candidates to eliminate the EPA altogether, the EPA’s push to make the Silverton/Durango area a Superfund Site, and Obama’s campaign against mining of all sorts (including coal, as well as uranium).

One thing is certain: Be assured that We the Taxpayers will foot the bills for all of this. All of it.

And that also serves Obama’s goals quite well. It’s all good.

All good, according to Cloward and Piven.


More links: This story explains how they’re emergency-treating the water, as illustrated in the photo at the top of the post.

This link goes to a slide show of photos of the disaster.


134 responses to “Orange Is the Color of the Animas River’s Soul

    WHITE HOSE …that I PONDER DAILY .. sick phoneys will NOT DO

  2. so sorry …as I slip of the LIP ….WTPOTUS may just have 2 REALLY
    “HOSE” DOWN that …”WHITE HOUSE” … ^^^ GOT BLEACH???

  3. like lamecherry wrote … IS THIS REALLY BHO ? check ears cheeks
    R ….wtpotus always being FOOLED???

    • from the sight above by a commentor……..hmmmm!
      Your worst fears may be quite real…

      Fiorina has friends in LOW places…
      Carly Fiorina (aka Cara Carleton Sneed) sat on the Foundation Board of the
      World Economic Forum, which has observer status with the United Nations
      Economic and Social Council.
      But congressional support for global governance will not wane on Carly’s watch. Agenda 21 and “sustainable development” are the new buzz words for “global socialism” through global governance and Carly sits on the Foundation Board at the mother ship.
      This is by no means new for Fiorina though. Her affiliation with global
      activists dates back many years and includes some of our nation’s most nefarious characters.
      An inquiring reporter worth his or her salt should be asking Carly to describe
      her long-term relationship with Dr. Khalid al-Mansour—aka Don Warden, Black Panther puppet master, Saudi Royal front-man and Obama education financier?

      and she seems to adore islam..

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      Well, DUH!!!! What the hell took people so long to wake TF up?

      Too much P.C. driven political guilt. Not that GW wasn’t complicit because he absolutely was. But being “color blind/”privileged”/voting for the “colored guy”( after all, he is 1/2 white….purportedly) took precedence….uber alles.

    • He’s NEVER going to really fight Muslims. As for the chemical weapons ISIS used–are those the WMDs that didn’t exist?

  4. TRUMPS …. 2nd favorite BOOK is Art of the DEAL …. & HIS 1st

    is the … BI ~ BLE’ TRUMP ROCKS …. & guess people R talking’

    about ….. TODAY ? ha …TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!

  5. ~ ….. drkate
    August 14, 2015 at 7:04 pm
    Who else is there to vote for? Seriously. The only one who is speaking the truth. The one who can’t be bought. The one who is not afraid to challenge people’s BS. All these other idiots are clowns. I appreciate the truth. And the republicans are just democrats and are spineless and clueless. From the article:

    As for Mr. Trump, the MSM cannot stomach anyone who says what the American people are thinking. This is what he has done. A couple of the other candidates have been encouraged by Trump’s actions to speak out themselves. Unfortunately, they were immediately slapped down. Sad that they are all so afraid and spineless, but that is today’s America, controlled by the MSM… and those candidates lack the chutzpah to speak the truth.

    I pray that Trump is not assassinated. That will tell you how desperate they are to hide the truth of what is happening.

    4 SURE ~ 4 SURE … drkate …. I AGREE a ZILLION % ~ Zen ~

  6. O’ set up HILL this 4 sure & General Petraeus was 2 set the STAGE

    4 the FALL …of HILL…BUT the PIT BULL will CHEW long & hard 2 B

    the come-back kid. BUT O’ is YANKIN’ the AIR out of HER STRINGS!

  7. Ben spoke on a radio clip & he sounded just like Michael Jackson’ ha
    the Virgo signs…& also Carly 2


    This is so funny!

    “The Democratic National Committee (DNC) is panicking in response to billionaire and 2016 GOP frontrunner Donald Trump’s immigration reform plan, which is designed to get Americans back to work instead of putting foreigners and special interests ahead of Americans as so many politicians do.

    The DNC was so freaked out at Trump’s plan, they rushed out a statement from Pablo Manriquez—their “Director of Hispanic Media”—filled with grammatical errors.

    “Trump has reignited the GOP’s longstanding obsession with mass deportation,” Manriquez said. “Like his fellow GOP candidates Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and others, GOP front runner trump [sic] dismisses a full and equal pathway to citizenship for hardworking [ILLEGAL!!!!!] immigrants. The GOP should quit treating these families as second class citizens and join democrats [sic] who support immigrant families and want to keep them together.” …”

    Now, riddle me this: How the hell do you treat like “second class citizens” people who aren’t even CITIZENS OF ANY KIND but are in truth ILLEGAL ALIENS?

    They’re lucky if we treat them as second-class citizens. They’re ILLEGAL ALIENS, not citizens at all. Something else: If they’re “hardworking” then they’re working hard at jobs they stole from American citizens!!! As Trump says, they need to go back.

    Riddle me this, too: What does Mexico do with illegal aliens? They DEPORT THEM.

  9. They deport them or else! Prison is another option they have too and remember……how hard it was to get the dude out of prison that just accidentally trekked over the border!
    At some point I’ve always hoped someone would bring up the fact that many illegals really do come here hoping life will get better for them and they leave loved ones behind……but the WHY is of great importance…..that Mexico should get it’s act together and start treating it’s own citizens better. Many of these people still love their own home place, they love their own mexican people and wish their own government cared. We should be embarrassing Mexican government….the next time their leaders show up to tell us how we should behaving…they should get some potent medicine for all their ills and anguish they are causing on their own people. No more AID to Mexico, till they get their act together.

    • Mexico is a beautiful country with wonderful people. However, their government is as corrupt as it can be and it seems that it’s nearly always been so, at least once they kicked “the Spanish” out. Revolution after revolution, with each successive leader promising to be “for” the people and then, once in power, grabbing all he can get! Age old story. This is actually a model that Obama would like for us. The people are relatively undereducated. There is not much of a middle class. What they call middle class is more like our “poor”, except like the middle class here, they don’t get much in the way of benefits. The people DO come here because it’s about the only way to get ahead–to get out of the rut they’re born into. But, there has to be a better way. People need to come LEGALLY. And they need to be the best and the brightest. We have enough of our own “poor” and uneducated to deal with. We don’t need to import Mexico’s problems. What we need to EXPORT to Mexico is a system that fixes their own government. Until the people down there change their own system, nothing’s going to improve for them. The country is chock FULL of resources, but only a few manage to benefit from them.

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        We have enough of our own poor and undereducated. Truer words are seldom spoken/written. I’m all.for giving CITIZENS a hand up.but we MUST put an end to generational entitlements. Education and proper parenting are the only ways out.

  10. KInda like here Miri. Yep!!! 😡

    • True of us now and getting more true every day, so long as Barry and the commies are in control. The lamestream conservative pundits are going nuts because so many of us support Trump, but the thing is–it can’t get worse but it sure can get better. Is he another Manchurian? (btw, is that racist?) Who knows? But, as I said, it can’t get much worse. At least Trump, we know FOR SURE, is a capitalist.

      I’m not sure I like him saying that the Iran deal can work, so long as he watches them carefully. Better to not approve the danged thing in the first place. He acts as if treaties or “agreements” are business contracts but they are only somewhat analogous.

      I do love his idea to make Mexico pay for the wall. I hope it works.

      The Dems are also going nuts about his plan to eliminate “birthright citizenship”. They PRETEND as if the 14th Amendment bestowed it but it most assuredly DID NOT. There’s that clause, “subject to the jurisdiction” of the USA. The children of illegal aliens are citizens of their parents’ home country. Their parents are NOT subject to the jurisdiction of the USA because they’re here ILLEGALLY. They’re not citizens of the USA. They’re not even LEGAL RESIDENTS. They’re trespassers and interlopers, so there’s no way that their children, who are foreign citizens, are SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION OF THE USA. At least not SOLELY subject to the jurisdiction of the USA. iow, their allegiance is not to the USA. It must be SOLELY TO THE USA, in order for someone to be subject to the USA.

      This, of course, is something that would be adjudicated, as if everything, but if Congress passes a law defining the phrase, it’s not likely the SCOTUS would reinterpret it another way. No way, I’m sure, did the people who passed the 14th Amendment intend to give the children of foreign ILLEGAL ALIENS citizenship. It makes no sense. LEGAL IMMIGRANTS can’t even get citizenship without jumping through hoops. Why would they just hand it to foreign citizens who happen to be born here? The 14th Amendment was passed to ensure that freed slaves are citizens, because their parents weren’t, even though their families had lived here solely “subject to the jurisdiction” of the USA for GENERATIONS. They had no other loyalty but to this country. In addition: Why would there be exceptions to birthright citizenship for children born abroad to TWO U.S. citizens but we hand citizenship to people born here to ILLEGAL ALIENS who have NO ALLEGIANCE whatsoever to this country? Anyway, the developing meme in the lamestream is that Trump can’t eliminate birthright citizenship without a Constitutional Amendment. But they’re lying. Look to see the scrub-a-dub-dubbing begin. Even Harry Reid introduced a bill to deny birthright citizenship to the children of illegals, so one of the most powerful Dems BELIEVED he could do what Trump proposes.

      They used to deny citizenship to Native American children because, they argued, they weren’t subject to the sole jurisdiction of the USA because their parents were members of a tribal government. If Native American children had to have special treatment in order to be citizens of the USA, then WHY THE HELL would ILLEGAL ALIENS get a leg up on them?

  11. yep! …Trump can LEARN as HE GOES…. JUST LIKE the
    USURPER ….. does…. & DID ….ha

    • In contrast to what? Barry’s DANGEROUS collaboration with the Muslim Brotherhood and Iran? Whose brother hobnobs with the terrorist regimes? Hmmm?

      That said, earlier today I said about the same thing this guy did. The difference is: Trump is a FAST LEARNER and I do believe that, unlike the current resident, Trump loves THIS country and has allegiance to THIS country.

      • ~ zooed • an hour ago
        Carson: ‘We …. cannot …. deport millions of people. ???

        Carson: ‘We must take care of the 11 [40] million already here.
        Weakness and amnesty-mongering at its root.

        But ignore it …. and cheer him on anyway – it’s very trendy. !!! ha

        ~ EEDDGGY1776 SteadfastTemerity • an hour ago
        Well, maybe it’s time ….. “We The People” stood up then.

        ~ DogBoy The Cat • an hour ago
        Dr. Carson seems to me to be a very brilliant man.

        I don’t think he’s really qualified to be president,
        but he’d make
        a hell of a good Surgeon General!

  12. ~ VALman Schmutzli • 15 hours ago …..^^^

    Newsmachete and other detractors of Trump, as of now, don’t seem to be achieving their purpose, if it is to diminish Trump and his campaign. Rather, as I read responses here at AT and elsewhere, they seem to be having the opposite impact.

    Supporters of Trump, even if not for the eventual nomination, are not shuffling their feet in embarrassment over him uttering “Well, I dunno about …” Instead, they’re able to deal with the issues as its evident Trump is doing do.

    Does he have all the answer? Nope. Nevertheless, he appears to be working hard at determining what the key questions are and developing his positions from there. If that’s too business-like for some, well, I say it’s about time we had some in Washington, D.C.

    After all, we tried a community organizer, of sorts. Why not a hard-nosed businessman?!

    ~ Jerry_Rigger VALman • 9 hours ago

    Everything about a Trump presidency being positive will ultimately hinge on who he chooses for advisors. I am sure he would choose wisely, and they will not be muzzie brotherhood moles like those infesting the White Mosque of the gay muzzie creature out of control now in its mission to transform us into a turd world commie shiite hole. He does know how to surround himself with competent people, and he knows how to send the incompetent packing.


    State Dept. Finds 17,855 ‘Missing’…

    Campaign ‘fact – check’ backfires…



    Drip, drip, drip……. @ DRUDGE

    & a PRO shared …. HILL should have had a ~ .gov ~ or .org

    • Drip by design. What difference, at this point, does it make? She’s going to walk. I’d love to be wrong but gut feeling …

  14. I PONDER …this is a BIG STORY U ALL !!! SO

    Will a Batcave be built inside the White House?

  15. ~ cali August 17, 2015 at 9:32 am

    The Bush family – beginning with Sr – are all corrupted to the core; one worlders and supporters of the global elite running the world.

    I can not discard Barbara Bush’s condescending statement about Palin during the 2008 election while at the same time they all worked for and supported the Obama election in lieu of a Jeb election supported by the same corrupted Federal Reserve elites.

    Jeb is the most sleazy one – with his Mexican wife who once also was an illegal invader! He and Hillary are two peas in a pod.

    ~ Mychal Massie ~ August 17, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    cali: KA-BOOM you nailed it…and your reminding people of what mama bush said about Sarah Palin is excellent reminder of what they stand for…

  16. charlesmountain says:
    August 17, 2015 at 5:36 am

    Cruz is not eligible. Every President and vice-President born after the ratification of the US Constitution were born to TWO citizen parents on US soil with the exception of Arthur who burned his records to hide his past and Obama.

    Apply Occams Razor and then read US Supreme Court decision Minor vs Happersett.

    The birth certificate is a blatant forgery.

    I appreciate your ardent toil but you might want to think about spending the rest of your days on the wrong side of history.

    W H Y ???????????
    is this bed-time-story …. STILL BEING SAID …. in AUG. 2015 ?

    • You gotta love Trump. He is SAVVY. Pay them (the imports) more but force the companies to hire citizens first. YAY! Hooray! EXACTLY. The Zucks of this world get richer by deliberately importing tech workers who work for what fast food hamburger flippers get. They don’t hire U.S. citizens because tech people HERE don’t want to earn only $25,000 a year to write program code. It’s FAR EASIER to flip burgers. They LIE when they say they can’t find employees. They can’t find citizens who will work for slave wages. And that’s the truth. OMG, is Trump smart. He POINTS OUT that women and minorities are passed over in Silicon Valley in favor of foreign men who will work for a pittance (in order to get a foot in the door). This is so true. Where’s the EQUALITY in Silicon Valley for WOMEN? Talk about a war on women. Not to mention a war on older workers, too. Check out the average age of the employees in Zuck’s company. Back in the 80s and 90s, females had near parity with men in the tech business, which at the time consisted mostly of programming and systems analysis. With the advent of PCs and Silicon Valley and the Internet, the percentage of women and older workers, too, began to drop. They began to import men, many from Pakistan, India, and other places in Asia, to do these jobs but for far lower wages. Trump is right. He seems to be right about just about everything. It’s amazing. Way to go, Donald!

  18. ZUCK YOU!
    WASH POST LEAD TUESDAY: Trump calls for unprecedented crackdown on illegals… Developing…
    ‘Would wreck havoc on society’…
    QUALCOMM lays off locals after applying for ‘thousands’ of foreign workers…
    BUCHANAN: Immigration is issue of the century…
    ‘Will West endure or disappear’…


      Right. It will “wreak havoc” on California if all those illegals have to go home. CA is already subject to the havoc wreaked by all the ILLEGALS in their state. They’re going bankrupt paying social services. What if the illegals went home? There would be jobs galore for citizens who’d be happy to go work in CA. There would be more money to run the state government because they’d have far fewer social benefits to pay for and fewer kids in school to educate. An alternative that Trump might consider, if somehow they end up giving them legal status but not EVER citizenship: Send Mexico the BILL for the social benefits and the education We the People must pay for for THEIR citizens, including their “dual” citizens.


        I’m concerned about what Trump means about bringing them back in “rapidly” on an “expedited” basis. To what end? For citizenship? For WHAT? Does he say? What’s the point of deporting and then bringing them back in rapidly?

        One thing that’s apparent by reading this transcript: Todd isn’t interested in answers. He cuts Trump off in an effort to only get sound bites.

        • WATER off the DUCK’S ..( donald’s ) ..BACK !
          I will DUCK WHEN he DUCKS…. I’m 100% with HIM… till HIS FEATHERS
          R PLUCKED… I will question LITTLE for all things can & will change..OFTEN … AS he SPITS it OUT JUST …look at all the PROS
          & CONS being TOSSED ABOUT … “PERFECT” .. we HAVE CONVERSATIONS ….. GOING ON as all are scared 2 or not 2 JOIN
          we have such…. a Long Way 2 GO
          so I’m going to REALLY ENJOY the TRUMP MACHINE as long as it’s HERE!
          = THEY Hate HIM … ha .. I LOVE LOVE LOVE HIM! … GO ~ D T

  19. NBC News: Donald Trump Challenges Obama To
    Release College Records; Maybe Hackers Got Records ..& WE PRAY!

    Donald Trump was on NBC’s Meet the Press for a wide-ranging interview from immigration to Obama’s records.

    Chuck Todd asked Trump if he believes Obama is a citizen and born in the United States.

    Trump’s comments on Obama’s records start at 20:44 mark;

  20. ~ charlesmountain 105p · 15 hours ago
    Off topic…
    I respect and admire Trevor Loudon for his relentless effort in exposing the Marxist agenda but man, has he got this wrong…

    It’s borderline buffoonery…. and it’s sad. This dude is going to wind up on the dung heap of history and he doesn’t deserve it IMO.

    ~ guest · 11 hours ago
    Yup, making excuses to find one eligible. 2 parentS born on this soil.

    ~ Ellen · 9 hours ago
    I called Loudon out on this in a public forum this past February. He willfully ignored my comments.

    ~ SirWilhelm · 13 hours ago
    It’s the scale of the conspiracy to defend and protect Obama, that is mind boggling, but, it’s even more mind boggling when you consider that no one, not even Trump, is challenging the fraudulent campaigns of the four ineligible Republican Presidential candidates, Cruz, Rubio, Jindal, and Santorum. All the ineligible candidate’s issues are interconnected, in my opinion. Take one to court, and the others will be dragged in, because all are affected by the issue’s resolution, particularly if the definition of the natural born citizen phrase is officially recognized, hopefully, to our satisfaction. The reason this isn’t happening, is because the leadership of both major parties, would be embarrassed, at least, and legally compromised, at the worst, by having their roles in protecting Obama, just by being complicit, exposed.


    • What difference, at this point, does it make? 😉

      It seems that it’s now up to We the People to determine the candidate’s ALLEGIANCE. That’s what matters. That’s what the Founders were after. Obviously, most obviously, Barry was sorely lacking on that score.

    • trevor is interesting , but I’ll leave it at that. Any guy who studies the zenith/Zap religion, sort of like libertarians/scientology; I can take him or leave him and I sure don’t waste my time trying to fit his opinions with mine. I’m sure he’s a nice guy and he means well, but that’s about it.

  21. Viken Shirinian 3 days ago
    ET ….. online staff needs to start understanding English.
    Pay attention to what the man said regarding the questions that were asked.
    You have 7 points that make no sense.

    1 if he is president, there would be no ILLEGAL immigrants to talk about.

    2 made sure to clear up comment that his derog comments were towards one woman and not all.

    3 Political correctness is a huge problem for Americans with free speech.

    4 The man speaks his mind and doesn’t need to lie.

    5 Politicians are BOUGHT every day

    6 he feels he is the right man for the job and others are not.

    7 Do you really want any comments on Obama’s performance

  22. ~ jrgdds • 3 days ago

    18 Things that I trust more than Hillary Clinton’s email server:

    1. Tap water in Mexico

    2. A rattlesnake with a “pet me” sign

    3. OJ Simpson showing me his knife collection

    4. Obama’s investigation into the IRS Targeting Scandal

    5. MeCHA, La Raza, and LULAC’s claims that they’re not racists

    6. Michael Jackson’s Doctor

    7. An Obama Nuclear deal with Iran

    8. Bill Clinton’s claim he never had inappropriate relationships

    9. Gas station sushi

    10. A Jimmy Carter economic plan

    11. MSNBC’s journalism credentials

    12. Prayers for peace from Al Sharpton

    13. The Obama regime’s investigation into Benghazi

    14. A business proposition from the Nigerian Minister of Finance

    15. A Jeffery Dahmer dinner invitation

    16. Rachel Dolezal’s claim, ex-NAACP leader, that she’s African American

    17. A guy that looks curiously like Bruce Jenner wearing a dress

    18. Janet Napolitano claiming our southern border is secure and safe

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