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Hey, Researchers, Wait Until You Read This!
Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Formerly with Hawaii DOH
Hawaii official denounces ‘ludicrous’ birther claims.
Comments follow statements by Donald Trump questioning legitimacy of president’s birth record.
By Michael Isikoff, National investigative correspondent
NBC : April 9, Updated 49 minutes ago
The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama’s original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is “real” and denounced ” conspiracy theorists in the so-called “birther” movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.
“It’s kind of ludicrous at this point,” Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii’s Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC. Fukino, sounding both exasperated and amused, spoke to a reporter in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s statements on the NBC Today show last week questioning whether Obama has a legitimate birth certificate.
Trump, who says he is considering a run for president, repeated his claims on CNN’s “State of the Union” Sunday, saying that “nobody has any information” about the president’s birth and that “if he wasn’t born in this country, he shouldn’t be president of the United States.”
No matter what state officials release on the issue, the “birthers” are going to question it, said Fukino. “They’re going to question the ink on which it was written or say it was fabricated,” said Fukino. “The whole thing is silly.”
As the top Hawaiian official in charge of state health records in 2008, when the issue of Obama’s birth first arose, Fukino said she thought she had put the matter to rest. Contacted by NBC, Fukino expanded on previous public statements and made two key points when asked about Trump’s recent comments.
The first is that the original so-called “long form” birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a “record of live birth” — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state’s then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.
Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document’s validity. [The one she saw, not the one on the internet!] She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.
“It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that,” Fukino said. Moreover, she added, her boss at the time, Lingle — who was backing John McCain for president — would presumably have to be in on any cover up since Fukino made her public comment at the governor’s office’s request. “Why would a Republican governor — who was stumping for the other guy — hold out on a big secret?” she asked.
Her second point — one she made repeatedly in the interview — is that the shorter, computer generated “certification of live birth” that was obtained by the Obama campaign in 2007 and has since been publicly released is the standard document that anybody requesting their birth certificate from the state of Hawaii would receive from the health department. [Miki Booth proves that a lie by posting a Hawaiian long form birth certificate within the last couple of days.]
The document was distributed to the Obama campaign in 2007 after Obama, at the request of a campaign official, personally signed a Hawaii birth certificate request form downloaded on the Internet, according to a former campaign official who asked for anonymity. Obama was “testy” when asked to sign the form, but did so anyway to put the issue to rest, the former campaign official said. The White House has dismissed all questions about the president’s birth as “fictional nonsense.”
The certification that the campaign received back —which shows that Obama was born in Honolulu at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961 — was based on the content of the original document in state files, Fukino said. “What he got, everybody got,” said Fukino. ” He put out exactly what everybody gets when they ask for a birth certificate.”
Hawaiian officials say that the certification is, in fact, only one piece of abundant evidence of Obama’s birth in Hawaii. Joshua Wisch, a spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general’s office, noted that a public index of vital records, available for inspection in a bound volume at the Health Department’s Office of Health Status Monitoring, lists a male child named “Obama II, Barack Hussein” as having been born in the state.
In addition, as Factcheck.org and other media organizations have repeatedly pointed out, both of Honolulu’s newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961, and the Honolulu Star Bulletin, on Aug. 14, 1961, both ran birth announcements listing Obama’s birth on Aug. 4 of that year.
Even Fukino accepts that her comments are not likely to end the matter for the die-hard birthers. Trump and other skeptics have questioned why the original birth certificate has not been released.
But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general’s office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of “vital records,” including an original “record of live birth” — even to the individual whose birth it records. “It’s a Department of Health record and it can’t be released to anybody,” he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said. [Note the use of the word, “original.”]
But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated “certification of live birth” form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.
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Fukino put the matter to rest? With all of the FOIA’s they were receiving, and then a request for Hawaii’s legislature to pass a bill targeting “vexatious” requesters…it was put to rest? NBC, one of the radical Left’s propaganda specialists, is to be believed? I don’t think so. Read the words carefully.
The Natural Born Citizen requirement will not be put to rest. We are just getting started and more lies and bluffing isn’t going to work! Prove you are eligible Obama! You Can’t!
Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.A.!
UPDATE: Comparison of Obama’s Certification of Live BirTH and Miki Booth’s CERTIFIcATE with all information appearing. Compare and contrast!
H/T Patlin – Free Republic – Views
Bridgette
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Miri
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We the People of the United States 
Bridgette, this is the most amazing piece of claptrap that I have EVER read. Where to begin?
First, Fukino is no longer an official, so anything she says carries no weight whatsoever.
How is it that upon request of the former governor, a Republican, Fukino could take another person (who was that? Onaka?) to look at the original document, twice, and yet Neil Abercrombie claims he’s not able to find it or look at it himself? He can’t look at it when he himself is currently the DEMOCRAT GOVERNOR of Hawaii and a friend, supposedly, of Obama’s family? Why won’t Barry give his dear friend permission to view it?
Why would the FORMER campaign official, who got Barry to sign that request for the COLB, wish to remain ANONYMOUS? This is certainly most fishy. Although it does ring true that Barry would be testy about being questioned.
So this anonymous person claims that they received the COLB, but the person doesn’t say WHAT IT SAID!
Why’s this person “former”, btw? Didn’t perhaps want to be involved in any shenanigans with regard to that COLB?
What happened to that COLB subsequent to receipt? Speaking of receipts, why won’t the HDOH release a copy of the receipt for the fee paid for the copy? Why was Barry testy? Did he know what it would and would not say? Did he KNOW that it wouldn’t match his fictional bogus autobiography that Bill Ayers wrote for him back in 1995, when he was a callow, inexperienced, unaccomplished community organizer who WANTED to get street cred with the black community in IL, especially Chicago, in order to USE THEM to promote his budding political career, which he started at Billy Ayers’s house?
He was stuck with that bogus biography. He owns it. But guess what? That COLB that arrived from Hawaii did not say what it says on the online version. I’d be willing to bet anything on that FACT. For starters, there’s NO FATHER’S NAME on the photograph taken by FactCheck. Not on the one that shows the “embossed seal”. It’s OBVIOUSLY MISSING. It’s NOT THERE.
Did Isikoff tape this conversation with Fukino, so that people can hear her actual words instead of his interpretation and/or edited portions of a conversation? We need exact quotes because they PARSE everything they say. It all depends upon what the meaning of real is.
Why would Isikoff interview a FORMER official instead of the CURRENT administration? Is this normal journalistic procedure? Afraid to endanger someone’s job? Is it a crime to lie to a reporter when acting in official capacity, versus a FORMER employee simply conversing over the phone with a reporter?
When has it EVER been stated before that these original “records of live birth” (why not “birth certificates”?) are stored in a bound book on the first floor of the Health Department? Does that sound likely? Are these, perhaps, those filed but NEVER ACCEPTED registrations? Those that NEVER were authenticated and accepted as truthful by the “State Registrar”? What are they?
Surely they don’t have bound books with every birth certificate ever created in Hawaii, stored right there at the HDOH. No, those would have been microfilmed, with originals placed in a secure, probably fire-proof place at the Hawaiian Archives. Someone probably knows the answer to this and will weigh in. Surely they’re in a VAULT somewhere. Filed, not bound, so they can be easily accessed and copied as needed.
Hmmmmm. Barry made his sudden trip to Hawaii to visit Granny in August, 2008, right? Fukino finds his original “record of live birth” in a bound book in October 2008. What was the DATE on that original record? When was it created, half typed and half handwritten? NOTE: This isn’t “written down in the archives.” The archives aren’t the same as the Dept. of Health. So this can’t be what Abercrombie was talking about.
They totally lie when they say that a person can’t get a copy of his own original record. Miki Booth and ladysforest’s brave undercover “agent” both proved that it IS possible to get a photocopy of the ORIGINAL long-form birth certificate.
HOWEVER, there must be something special about Barry’s! What could that be? ADOPTED, SO SEALED? This is the only situation that I can think of where the person in question may not be able to get a copy of his original records. But it still makes no sense. If the law restricts copying of an original bc for an adopted person, the person would likely not even be able to peruse it. This is what they’re saying to cover for Barry, to explain WHY, IF THE RECORD EXISTS, INSTEAD OF SHOWING IT HE SENT LTC LAKIN TO PRISON!
Fukino did NOT SAY where that birth took place. Did she? Only that there’s a record of his birth there at the HDOH, signed by a doctor. So when did the doctor sign this record? Who is the doctor? What hospital did he work for? Is there a medical record to back this up? Is it just an affidavit from a doctor who, in 2008, claimed that he delivered Barry at home or somewhere like in a field on a plantation somewhere?
Here’s a question for you: Exactly WHEN in time did that BC# suddenly get revealed? I can’t remember. Anyone? That sounds like a “tell” to me. She mentions that it’s properly numbered. Uh, huh. And the passport files at the Dept. of State are “proper”, too. After being cauterized.
She did not state that the Dept. of Health sent that COLB to Obama’s campaign, did she? This came from the anonymous former campaign employee of Barry’s. Fukino said, again, only that that’s what somebody would get if they requested their bc. She didn’t state that the information on the online COLB MATCHES EXACTLY what she saw on that “original record of live birth”! Since Fukino is no longer with the Dept. of Health, does anything she says to a reporter carry any weight? Is she willing, like Tim Adams, to sign an affidavit?
It’s not worth responding to her non sequitur about RINO Lingle. It’s been said that any Republican in Hawaii still ends up to the left of many a mainland Democrat. Hawaii receives, and still wants, the many benefits that depend upon federal largesse. There’s a lot they expect from Barry in return for services rendered.
Yes, do read all the words carefully. I’m sure that I missed something here. The law doesn’t provide for photocopying THOSE types of records. What does that mean, when obviously Miki Booth got a copy of the long-form of a friend of hers? My guess is that Barry’s “vital records”, plural, are not the ordinary, run-of-the-mill records. How could Mrs. Nordyke have PHOTOCOPIES of her daughters’ birth certificates? We’ve all seen them. The HDOH created them. They photocopied them and mailed them to her. How do they explain this?
ANY Hawaiian record WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE PRODUCED TO ANY COURT OF LAW, IF SUBPOENAED. This is the TRUTH. IF Barry wanted to, he could have had the records sent to any of the courts, ending these lawsuits. INSTEAD, he spent millions of dollars, and worse, sent a brave patriot to PRISON BECAUSE HE WILL NOT RELEASE THE RECORDS. IF he cared, IF he’s truly eligible, then he would have BEGGED the COURTS to force the HDOH to release the records IN ORDER TO SAVE LTC LAKIN’S CAREER AND FAMILY. HE DID NOT.
OBAMA: PROVE YOUR ELIGIBILITY. NOW.
RELEASE LTC LAKIN. NOW.
Miri | April 10, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Reply
I’d like to respond to one your comment –
“What happened to that COLB subsequent to receipt? Speaking of receipts, why won’t the HDOH release a copy of the receipt for the fee paid for the copy?”
Miri,
Did you make a UIPA request for the Obama COLB receipt? If so, how did the HDOH respond?
I made a request and Janice Okubo lied to me.
Jonah, I didn’t make a UIPA request but others have. I believe that was one of three possible researchers: ladysforest, butterdezillion, or Miss Tickly. All I remember is that they wouldn’t release it and at some point, the researcher even got a ruling that by law they were required to release it.
If you read this entire article, you can see the correspondence that went between the HDOH and Miss Tickly. She asked for a copy of the receipt and they said any record connected to a birth record is restricted to the person or someone with a tangible interest in the birth record. IF I understand the conversation. They deliberately parse and obfuscate, so it’s hard to decipher what they mean. The end result is that they wouldn’t cough up the receipt. Somewhere on butterdezillion’s blog, iirc, is an interchange where the OIP people state that the receipt should be provided. But it never was. They ignore their own laws. They have reasons to.
This is Janice Okubo’s reply to me. Is she telling me there is no receipt because there was no request for the BC? If she’s saying they don’t keep records of receipts then she’s lying. I found out later that they do keep records of those who had requested and were issued documents.
“Receipts for payments are issued to the requestor when the order for a certified copy has been filled. The department does not retain a copy of the receipt. It is printed and given to the requestor. Therefore, the department does not have a record responsive to your request”.
They are masters of obfuscation. It sounds to me as if when they cash someone’s check, they send the person a receipt. They say they print them, so there’s a record in a database from which they print the information. So if they don’t keep copies of the receipt, they still have a record somewhere of the payment. It’s probably in a database. So you have to be extremely careful what you ask for. If you don’t guess exactly what they call it, they’ll say they don’t have it.
In other words, they HAVE TO keep some kind of record of accounts receivable. That’s the only way they can account for the money coming in and its tranfer to whatever account they put it in. There have to be state audits of these funds. They have to account to the state for the money. It goes into somebody’s budget, somewhere. If they didn’t keep track of what money came in, who it came from, where it was deposited, then the employees of that office (and this has been known to happen in lots of agencies like this) could make a pretty penny pocketing that money. I wonder if it’s possible to request for them to print for you a copy of the receipt from their database?
Miri | April 10, 2011 at 10:38 pm |
“wonder if it’s possible to request for them to print for you a copy of the receipt from their database?”
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That’s what they should have given me. But they lied and said they don’t have the record I requested. A young lady over at freerepublic was attempting to confirm when she had requested a copy of her BC and HDOH looked it up under her name and her mother’s name, who also had made a previous request.
So they should have records of any documents issued to Obama. BTW the way I see it, the receipt is not a BC so the privacy regulation should not apply. It is a government document subject to UIPA requests. If the HDOH has no record of issuing a document to BHO then the fightthesmears and factcheck COLBs are fakes.
No prez has ever had his birth certificate questioned, and defended by NBC, a Hawaiian health dept official and a host of other operators, leaves lots a room for questions don’t it? How many certificates are there now? Remember, but this time we all know the word Democrat is synonymous with CROOKED!!
It certainly is synonymous with crooked. Crook. Because that’s what they all are. Wikileaks has proven that.
First over all, keep in mind Michael Isikoff is also the moron who also falsely reported that a koran was flushed down a toilet in Gitmo that caused rioting that cost many lives. Isikoff is also the same guy who lied about the Lewinsky scandal to protect his Democrat president. The man’s a liar. He can not be trusted.
There are so many things just plain out “wrong” in his article where do you begin?
This for one I belive is just a plain outright lie –
But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general’s office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of “vital records,” including an original “record of live birth” — even to the individual whose birth it records.
But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated “certification of live birth” form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.
I sure don’t know how they make those long form birth certificates for people now if they don’t photocopy them. Are they scanning them instead. Look at his use of the word “original” ..of course, the original wouldn’t be given out. That is a State record. But somehow people get a copy. The guy or else Fukino is intentionally obscuring the meaning of the two words certification and certificate also. Yes, if they send out a certification it does mean something different than does the certificate. She also says she has Obama’s original birth certificate on file…but from where? She doesn’t validate the one of Obama’s that is online, like the writer is trying get people to believe.
Yet without our knowledge and the information we researched as well as others, this article might be taken as gospel. That is the worry.
Also notice that he writes in between little one or two word quotes. A sentence of his with a quote of hers calling those that question Obama a “birther.” He makes it appear as though those are all her words.
You got it, Bridgette! Yes, of course they don’t give out the “original”. And they don’t photocopy them anymore. No, they produce digital images or printed copies off the microfilms. How cleverly they parse. How cleverly Isikoff implies. He doesn’t say, in his story, when he launches into the line about how the “document was distributed” to Barry’s campaign that FUKINO said they sent it. No, the paragraph says an anonymous campaign official claims that.
Here’s what Fukino said, “What he got, everybody got. He put out exactly what everybody gets when they ask for a birth certificate.”
So wait a minute! Everybody who asked for a copy of their bc got back a COLB that stated that Barack Hussein Obama II was born on 8/4/1961 at 7:24 in Honolulu? Nope. Therefore, she doesn’t say ANYTHING that affirms that what his online COLB SAYS is TRUE. She only says that the form of the item he put online is what “everybody” got. Got it?
Note that the anonymous campaign official says the certification they got back from Hawaii said “Obama (or aka what?) was born in Honolulu at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961.” BUT DO NOTICE WHAT THEY DON’T SAY IT SAID. His name. His parents’ identities. His parents’ races. Did it say “amended”? Not mentioned. Could he have been born in Honolulu at that time on that date and still NOT be a natural born citizen? YES, HE COULD. We already KNOW that he’s not a natural born citizen, by his own admission. He was BORN A BRITISH SUBJECT. Later was a KENYAN CITIZEN. Later was an INDONESIAN CITIZEN. IF you believe his fake biography. What if, however, neither of his parents was a US citizen? Then he’s not a US citizen and he’s certainly NOT a natural born US citizen.
OBAMA! PROVE YOUR ELIGIBILITY.
Rush Limbaugh said that we can’t unelect someone who’s already been elected. While that contention is arguable, what’s NOT arguable is that we can make this person and every candidate prove eligibility before getting on the ballot. What’s certain is that WE CAN MAKE SURE HE’S NOT RE-ELECTED.
In the article is the paragraph below. Notice the first sentence is not in quotations but at its end is “said Fukino.” Then the next sentence is in quotations with “said Fukino” in the middle then continues on in quotations.
….No matter what state officials release on the issue, the “birthers” are going to question it, said Fukino. “They’re going to question the ink on which it was written or say it was fabricated,” said Fukino. “The whole thing is silly.” ……
Is it a typo or deliberately misleading? Do you think Dr. Fukino really used the term “birthers” or was the writer wanting to make it look as if she did?
Notice what Fukino said, “They’re going to question the ink on which it was written… ”
And how do you write on ink? With other ink? Of course they’d question it.
In regard to :
“Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said.”
The documents that can not be photocopied could possibly be SEALED documents and can only be opened through a court order. And why would they be sealed? They would likely be the originals birth certificates that have been amended, such as having a name change or an adoption. They would be removed from accessibility and locked up, say, in a file cabinet or a vault. This could be evidence that Barry was adopted.
Or they might be the documents submitted by someone with “knowledge of a birth” in the hope of receiving a birth certificate–but the documents were filed and never accepted as authentic, so they sit in the HDOH in limbo. There’s a semi-registration that as yet has no validity because it’s never been adjudicated or investigated. In other words, perhaps somebody filed, at some point, affidavits from somebody who claims to have witnessed the birth but it’s never been authenticated as TRUE. These documents are kept, but they’re just evidence submitted with the hope that the HDOH will accept it AS evidence and provide a birth certficate. It’s likely there is no provision in Hawaiian law to allow copying and releasing unsubstantiated claims that are pending proof and acceptance.
Or they might be the documents submitted by someone with “knowledge of a birth” in the hope of receiving a birth certificate–but the documents were filed and never accepted as authentic, so they sit in the HDOH in limbo.
That is my theory too Miri. Exactly.
My two cents. If an application made for a birth cert. for a child born outside of hospital did not have the required documentation supplied by the parents after one year – the application was mailed back to the last address on file. MEANWHILE, they would have kept track-likely handwritten-of the attempts made to contact the parents to let them know that the cert. could not be completed without the indicated docs. etc.
This is absolutely how it was done in HI. In fact it is still done this way in most states in the US. The only difference between now and then is that now it would be recorded via computer rather than handwritten. The incomplete would likely have an official temp app. number, pending completion.
Exactly Ladysforest.
We have no idea when those documents were filed or what they are. Perhaps they may have been filed as late as 2007 or 2008. We have no idea if they were accepted and if so, when. We don’t know if it’s a late filing by parents. We don’t know what they are or who filed them or when. Obviously, whatever is in that bound book on the first floor of the HDOH is not a normal long-form birth certificate. They’re “vital records” (plural) because the HDOH has an expansive view of what vital records are. I don’t believe anything they say, much less what a FORMER “official” says.
WHY didn’t Isikoff interview current officials at the HDOH, in their official capacity AS officials? I can guess why.
I remember Mike Isikoff who usually put me on conference calls so everybody could take notes. I bet Fukino was on a conference call too. I bet she was.
John Charlton says he can confirm that Barry’s original vital records name him as STEVE DUNHAM. Remember that? Look at the date of his quip about that being his name: October, 2008. When Fukino looked at his records.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Steve/Dunham
Fukino has not verified that the COLB produced at and by the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago is authentic.
Fukino has not verified that the “Obama birth narrative”, is 100% true. (And if any part of the “Obama birth narrative” is not 100% true, then laws have been broken!)
Fukino can say whatever she wants, but her statements are not among the list of “acceptable documentation” for an I-9 form, and the President is not above the law… Obama is legally required to complete an I-9 form and supply acceptable hardcopy documentation of his employment eligibility:
Fukino’s 2009 statement saying, ” Obama is a natural born citizen…” shows that she doesn’t know what a Natural Born Citizen is, caused her to loose all credibility and made all her further statements suspect.
Now she says Obama’s long form birth certificate is in a bound Book located in a file cabinet on the first floor of the Hawaii Department of Health? Not a birth recording entered in a book, but the whole certificate? Very strange.
And how about that poor doctor?
Was it a doctor of economics? 🙂
It was a Vet! (Veterinarian) For Mutts!
Mummified by now, poor man.
Pressed flat like a rose in a Bible.
“….the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files.”
The same one who now sees to the other B.O., Bo the First Dog? Or the one who takes care of that other dog? Ouch. That’s mean. I’m in a mean mood today.
He was a shrink.
How else would he fit in that file?
I wonder if SADOS got one of those consular birth records, stating he was born (wherever) and signed by the doctor in that country, and then filed it in Hawaii, which gave him the COHB? Note that some FALSELY state that a child with a consular birth record affirming his US citizenship, although born overseas, is eligible to be POTUS, so Fukino could state that he was a natural-born American citizen. Especially if born in Canada, since Canada is in North America. And maybe the doctor affirmed that it was a “natural” birth. Not C-section.
I had forgotten how they were using that natural birth early on! Obama outed himself by saying he was a citizen under the 14th Amendment too.
Bots are on the defensive.. hundreds of articles in the last couple days.
At least we know that the AZ group did explain the Natural Born citizen requirement and its definition to Donald Trump and that he wanted more information on the subject.
Right. I remember that. He said he’s a citizen under the 14th amendment and FTS (or FactCheck) said he’s a “native” citizen, not natural born.
Miri, If a home birth etc.. with no attending Dr. they get a BC too ? I read somewhere that is how it went in Hawaii back then..that would be fairly easy to do also…born at home, on a boat, plane etc… easy to slide under the radar…
He does have scars…emergency birth ?
Isikoff’s story says, “a bound volume at the Health Department’s Office of Health Status Monitoring, lists a male child named “Obama II, Barack Hussein” as having been born in the state.”
Maybe so. But when was that UNDATED “bound volume” created and why? When ladysforest’s researcher first looked, there was no Obama in it. Only later was a volume purporting on the cover to contain 5 years worth of birth index information available, but the pages within the volume, unlike other such volumes, contain no DATES. Why is that?
Okay, so there’s also a bound volume in that same place that says that a female child named Corinna Mae Obar was born in the state. If I claim that I’m Corinna Mae Obar but if I then REFUSE to produce ANY OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION WHATSOEVER TO PROVE THAT AS FACT, does the entry in the volume prove that I was born in Honolulu during that five-year period and thus I am a natural born American citizen simply because I CLAIM, WITH NO PROOF, THAT I’M CORINNA MAE OBAR?
I REPEAT AND WILL CONTINUE TO REPEAT: A digital image on a partisan blog is NOT proof of ANYTHING. Even if a former official at the HDOH claims that the format of that image is consistent with an official COLB, it’s NOT AN OFFICIAL COLB. It’s a digital image on a partisan blog.
These new statements by Fukino are nothing more than a repeat of what she’s said before. She said she viewed his “original birth certificate.” She said later that she viewed the “original vital records.” There’s nothing new. She continues to obfuscate and lie by omission. She did NOT confirm either that she knows the HDOH produced, certified, and sent that COLB NOR that the image on the blog IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHATEVER COLB WOULD HAVE BEEN PRODUCED BY THAT ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Another question might be whether or not the birth certificate as it existed in, say, 1990, would have resulted in what we see online OR might it only match, if it does, because sometime after 2007, an amendment was made to those “original vital records” to make them correspond, somehow, with his fictional autobiography? The only way to get to the bottom of this is to force Barry to
PROVE HIS ELIGIBILITY.
Is Fukino the same person who claimed to not be able, under Hawaiian law, to comment on any aspect of his birth records? How is it that the HDOH can claim that they cannot even state whether records exist and cannot release even tangential documents such as receipts, but Fukino can go and LOOK and examine those documents and then expound upon them? Isn’t this a violation of Barry’s “privacy”?
In addition, why perchance did she have to go a back and look at the original records before making her second pronouncement? If it were so cut and dried, wouldn’t she remember?
Miri said, “If it were so cut and dried, wouldn’t she remember?”
No, because she has a brain made of Swiss Cheese.
Or she’s lying.
Since cash strapped States are already having difficulty paying for their operating costs, why would the State of Hawaii maintain and store hard copy documents that they never intended to issue copies of to those for whom the documents were generated for, in order to offset the storage costs associated with those documents?
Why keep those documents?
The real story is….why doesn’t he just release it?
Playing politics is a crappy reason.
Sending a man to prison for six months, destroying his future and the lives of his wife and children makes Obama look exactly like what he is. There’s NO EXCUSE for him not to release the document, especially since he claims to be eligible. NONE. At this point, he’s boxed himself into that corner and he’s going to have to stay there. We’re not going to let the world forget what happened to LTC Lakin. I wish that Trump would mention Lakin once in a while. That would resonate with the millions of people who probably have NEVER heard his name, thanks to the lamestream media carrying Barry’s water for him.
I have to share this wonderful comment from jbjd, at her blog:
“Isikoff claims in his article, this time around, Dr. Fukino has clarified, via an admission, that before making those statements in 2008, she had unlawfully accessed the protected privileged confidential records of Barack Obama without first obtaining either a written waiver of liability from Mr. Obama (or his legal representatives) for such otherwise unlawful conduct or, written instructions permitting her to publicly advertise what she had learned from this unlawful breach.
(Mr. Isikoff did not actually refer to this peek at Obama’s birth records as illegal. But, if what he wrote about Dr. Fukino’s conduct is true then, she did break the law.)”
Great points, jbjd!
Hawaii Official and Ex-Official Lie to Cover Their Tracks
DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN RAMPS UP IN RESPONSE TO DONALD TRUMP’S ASSERTIONS THAT OBAMA HAS NOT SHOWN A REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
by Miki Booth
snip…..
But the latest attempt to put out the flames has backfired and exposed some naughty children huddled in a back room playing with matches. Michael Isikoff, MSNBC’s “so-called” national investigative correspondent, was caught with Joshua Wisch, former chairman of Howard Dean’s presidential campaign in Hawaii. Now spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general’s office, Wisch apparently colluded with Fukino to validate Obama’s alleged “Certification of Live Birth.”
“What he got, everybody got,” said Fukino. “He put out exactly what everybody gets when they ask for a birth certificate.”
Not true, Dr. Fukino. When my son, Alan, requested a copy of his birth certificate he got just that—a “Certificate of Live Birth,” not the same as Obama’s. Different titles and different information. Obama’s is sorely lacking information required for obtaining a passport—Mother’s State/Country of Birth and Father’s State/Country of Birth.
Joshua Wisch, former chairman of Howard Dean’s presidential campaign in Hawaii. Now spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general’s office, Wisch apparently colluded with Fukino to validate Obama’s alleged “Certification of Live Birth.”
hummm….From above.
http://archives.starbulletin.com/2004/07/19/news/story1.html
UPDATE: Added the comparison photos of Obama’s Certification and Miki Booth’s sons Certificate to the Article above. How will the Obama Camp lie about the difference between the two? Fukino says everybody get the same…yes, if they can’t prove their birth information they will get one like Obama. People with real proof get one just like the Booth’s received.
Wisch (now associated with the Democratic Party) and Fukino better be finding a good attorney as they are now implicated in this cover-up..a word Fukino brought up in her interview.
When we lived in Hawai’i forty years ago, thanks to the US Navy, we had to get state driver’s licenses ASAP, even tho’ we were military and most likely only there for a year, at most. I remember the BMV and the Japanese woman who was my clerk for this transaction and how I could not understand her. They spoke poor English, calling it ‘pidgin,’ and didn’t give a flip if you could understand them or not. Most of the recent ruling class in Hawai’i is of Japanese origin, Democrats almost to a man/woman, and always in bed with the unions. The Chinese were more entrepreneurial. These are generalizations, I know, but still explain a bit about Fukino and her stubborness and poor grammar (e.g. “the ink it was written on”).
Not only in bed with unions–in bed with communists, too.
ROFLMAO. Thank you, Rosemary. That’s precious. What’s up with her disappearing hands?
Somebody email this to Trump. At least it mentions LTC Lakin.
Why don’t we just make this official. Have Trump ask this Fukino woman to sign a legal paper saying that “she did see the Doctors, Nurses signatures and that he is definitely born here” and close the damn subject. I, for one, do not want Trump to look foolish. I believe that he would be a great President, but, I don’t want an opportunity for Obama to have in 2012 to say “look at all these racist people saying I was not born here” and then shows his BC. He definitely will be elected.
Obama Fires 4 Qassam Rockets At Trump But Failed To Hit Target:
Trump Fires Back & Strikes Oval Office Squatter;
Hawaii Caught In Another Lie
April 11 Snips
It is sort of fun to sit back and watch Team Obama implode. I think they made a mistake when they thought they could silence Donald Trump with their outdated tactics they’ve been employing on average citizens over the last 3 years. Boy, were they wrong!? Team Obama employed the usual group of Obama eligibility obfuscators and known supporters and even an employer. The first shot was by Factcheck.org on Saturday, who I might add is funded by the same org that employed Obama and domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, posting a regurgitated, left-wing, talking point memo on Obama’s eligibility telling Trump he was fired. The second shot was by Senior Obama Advisor David Plouffe on ABC News using the only tactics they have, attack and ridicule. The third and fourth shot were fired from Hawaii, Obama’s purported place of birth. Former head of the Hawaii DOH and Obama enabler Chiyome Fukino laughed off the issue and provided even more “details” of her sighting of the infamous long-form,,,via MSNBC.
The last shot fired was from Joshua Wisch the enlisted birthgater and spokesman for the Hawaii AG’s Office who flat out lied telling MSNBC: “…state law does not in fact permit the release of “vital records,” including an original “record of live birth” — even to the individual whose birth it records.” [Source – article above].
The amazing and brilliant eligibility researcher Butterdezillion quickly debunks that lie and asks the sane question: This is such a load of BS it’s not even funny. The claim of the AG’s spokesperson that HI law does not authorize photocopies to be made is absolutely absurd.
HRS 338-13 says:
Ҥ338-13 Certified copies. (a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.
continues…
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/obama-fires-4-qassam-rockets-at-trump.html
Bridgette, did we talk about this article yet?
http://factcheck.org/2011/04/donald-youre-fired/
There is so much disinformation in there that it would take a long report to refute it all. It does contain a bibliography at the end that we might be able to use. 🙂
No, hadn’t seen it until it was mentioned in that article. Isn’t it an atrocity! The ever so relied upon Fact Check who always checks and rechecks the facts for accuracy and truth! Wouldn’t you like to know who works behind the scenes at Fact Check. Did they get their points from Podesta? What is concerning is that congress members go to fact check for answers and expect them to be non-partisan and to only print the truth or real facts.
Naming the slime bag Weigel as a source is a joke! The whole Fact Check report is pure Leftist progaganda and the same stuff they have used repeatedly to refute truth.
We are aware that Donald is learning so he is making errors in what he is saying. We can make allowance for that. Fact Check is not allowed to make the same claim. They made more errors in what they reported as “fact” than Donald did in what he stated.
On Friday, Trump was interviewed by CNN , the segment aired Sunday, Apr. 10, 2011. Trump took the old-drunk to the woodshed… You would think CNN would look at their own polls – ORYR.
From the video- CNN plays the grandmother tape..and the part where the translator changes Grandma’s story to have him born in Hawaii. They don’t play the part where it says he was born in Kenya. Nice editing job.
He goes into Certificate of Live Birth..and no records at the hospital. (Still getting the terms mixed up. Obama has a Certification.) His relatives don’t know which hospital he was born in. Birthers got labeled. Fact is, if he wasn’t born in this country, he shouldn’t be the president of the US. 8 days later for the birth announcement. CNN checked with “those newspapers and the hospitals reported those birth announcements to the paper.” They are going to be talking about this 20 years from now, says Candy.
Another conspiracy theory..Republicans think this is a losing issue says she. He doesn’t think this is a losing issue. Others in the Republican party say you (Trump) are trying to help the president, and he says, ‘Then they are fools.” “It is a bad issue for the president, not for the Republican party.”
Trump Takes On CNN Over Obama’s Eligibility
She is SO annoying!
“MANY NEWS ORGANIZATIONS SAW THE ORIGINAL?” That’s an OUTRIGHT LIE. Only FactCheck staffers (unnamed, I might add) claim that they saw it in August 2008 and took pictures of it, yet mysteriously they took the photos in March 2008!
Yes, a very well edited tape of the McRae conversation with Granny Sarah. Aren’t these the people who excoriated Breitbart and James O’Keefe for editing their “stings” (ACORN and NPR)?
“IN FACT” two newspapers published the announcements? Where is it proved? Has ANYONE seen a newspaper from 1961? No. Trump was great when he told her, “who knows?”, when she started claiming that the hospitals sent the information to the newspapers. Way to go, Donald!
She repeats the meme that this “sounds crazy” to most of the country. Another lie. Repeat the lie, repeat the lie, repeat the lie in Alinsky fashion. It’s not going to work, Candy.
My favorite part of EVERY ORYR video is Barry saying that “the only people who don’t want to disclose the truth, are people with something to hide.”
The only intelligent thing I think I’ve ever heard the guy say!
Obama’s Eligibility: The Big Con
Lawrence Sellin Monday, April 11, 2011 Snips
A major part of that ongoing effort by the left-wing and the MSM involved a political deception to sidestep the Constitution and permit Barack Hussein Obama to run for President.
Over the last thirty years, there have been numerous attempts by Congress to change the Article II natural born requirement to “native born”, which is, born in the US regardless of parentage or just “citizen”, whether native or naturalized (good news for Arnold).
By electing Obama without an Amendment, the Constitution has been undermined and a precedent has been established to eliminate the term “natural born” from Article II, Section I.
One could claim that the “set-up” of the con began with the fabricated controversy, bolstered by the MSM, questioning the eligibility of Senator John McCain for President under the same Constitutional provision. McCain was born while his Navy officer father was serving at a US military base in the Panama Canal Zone.
The details of the McCain controversy are less important than the means it created to hoodwink voters into thinking that Obama was also eligible for the Presidency. It all was conveniently written into the Congressional Record. On April 30, 2008 Senate Resolution 511 resolved that John Sidney McCain, III, is a ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States. SR 511 had no recorded vote, is not legal or binding.
The core argument of SR 511 was the legal analysis co-written by Laurence H. Tribe and rumored conservative Theodore B. Olson. Tribe is a professor at Harvard Law School and a leading liberal scholar of constitutional law. He was an active supporter of and a legal adviser to Barack Obama during the 2008 campaign.
SR 511 had no recorded vote, is not legal or binding, but cleverly expresses the opinions of those who stand to benefit from them, that is, to sanitize Obama’s ineligibility to be President.
In his memorandum to the Senate, Tribe makes selective arguments, which seem more to serve the interests of Obama than McCain, particularly in the statement: “These sources all confirm that the phrase ‘natural born’ includes both birth abroad to parents who were citizens, and birth within the nation’s territory and allegiance.”The citation Marsh v. Chambers, 463 U.S. 783, 790-91 (1983), which Tribe uses, actually comes from the dissenting opinion of Justice Brennan, who argued that “the Constitution is not a static document”
The reference Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 655 (1898) is cited without Minor v. Happersett 21 Wall. 162, 166-168 (1874), which was the guiding case for the Wong Kim Ark decision. In Minor, the Court cited the “Law of Nations” and clearly established who was a “natural born citizen” beyond any doubt, a definition that does not include Barack Hussein Obama.
Not surprisingly, Tribe, being an expert on the subject, claims that the Framers of the Constitution relied on British common law. To a casual observer, it would seem odd that the Founders would choose a legal model from which they were trying to free themselves.
Tribe is, quite simply, wrong. The 1st commentaries on the Constitution and a plethora of other historical references all point to the Law of Nations as a guiding force, not British common law.
The McCain eligibility controversy and SR 511 were the Congressional equivalent of “I’m ok, you’re ok”, both seemingly meant to divert attention away from Obama’s Constitutional ineligibility.
The “hook” of the con was the June 2008 release of Obama’s “birth certificate”, more aptly described as the “Certification of Live Birth” (COLB). It was accompanied by the circulation of many carefully-worded, official statements of verification, all of which sounded more like legal escape hatches.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35358
Lawrence Tribe, former official of Obama’s Justice Department
Laurence Tribe Is Leaving Justice Job
Nov. 17, 2010
After nine months as the Justice Department’s “senior counselor for access to justice,” Laurence H. Tribe, a prominent Harvard law professor and mentor to President Obama, will leave his position and return to Massachusetts early next month.
Mr. Tribe, 69, confirmed that he is leaving and cited medical reasons: he has been having a recurrence of facial seizures and other symptoms associated with a benign brain tumor, which was diagnosed in 2008.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/17/laurence-tribe-is-leaving-justice-job/
Why wasn’t Obama ever vetted?
April 10th, 2011 Snips
The extent the media will go to to destroy anyone raising the birth certificate issue
There have been just a handful of citizens who have raised the issue of Obama’s birth certificate and eligibility all the way to the Supreme Court. These people have not had much to gain from these activities and have lost dearly and paid for their efforts a thousand times over. The cruelty of the media has been breathtaking to behold surrounding such a simple issue that could be resolved by Obama. He could have simply released his long form birth certificate but he has not because he probably does not have one.
Orly Taitz comes to mind as an individual who has been unrelenting is bringing up this issue. She is a Russian immigrant who became a dentist and a lawyer in this country. What an accomplished person. If you want to know what she has had to endure to point out the alleged fraud of the Obama presidency spend some time at her web site. Lieutenant Colonel Terry Lakin was another individual who raised the issue of Obama’s eligibility. For his efforts he was tried in military court and denied a defense. That is how they do it in totalitarian regimes. The judge presiding over Lakin’s trial denied him a defense because she did not want to “embarrass” the dictator President.
There is not one presidential candidate who has the moral backbone like Orly or Lieutenant Colonel Lakin who could endure the brutality of Obama’s machine of personal destruction. No one! This is why no one raised the issue during the last presidential election and none of these candidates will raise it now. They are all intimidated and scared. They know what awaits them if they dare open their mouths except Donald Trump of course
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-phoenix/why-wasn-t-obama-ever-vetted
Does Hawaii ever release long-form birth certificates?
Ex-official says Obama’s document is in file cabinet at Department of Health
April 11, 2011
Moreover, on Oct. 13, 2010, a contributor with the username “Danae” posted on FreeRepublic.com a copy of her long-form birth certificate originally issued in 1969, but which the Hawaii Department of Health mailed to her on Sept. 28, 2010, after she paid a $10 fee. (An image of her posting:) To verify her transaction, she also posted a receipt she was sent Sept. 28, 2010, by the Hawaii state agency, documenting the $10 fee to get her long-form, hospital-generated certificate. Because of the obvious questions raised by the statements of Hawaii officials defending the secrecy of Obama’s birth records, “Danae” followed up with a photograph of her original long-form, hospital-generated certificate of live birth side-by-side with the copy she was sent: See image
She went even further, posting an image of both of those documents along with a short-form COLB, similar to the one presented by Obama’s campaign, that she also had asked the Hawaii Department of Health to produce: See image
“Danae” obtained her long-form, hospital-generated certificate of birth to win a $200 bet with another FreeRepublic participant operating under the username “STARWISE.” STARWISE dared someone to prove he or she could get a long-form birth certificate from the Hawaii DOH after 2001, when the Hawaii DOH went electronic and agency spokeswoman Janice Okubo claimed they quit issuing such documents.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=285921#ixzz1JJh3m0AT
WND is doing better, they are citing Post and Email and Free Republic. Although I didn’t see a link to Free. Whereas when they picked up our work, it was done by researchers. Lots of images in their post. This is about the NBC article above and the rebuttals. I don’t remember Danae to whom they refer to as posting her Hawaiian long form BC at Free, although Starwise rings some bell. Anyone have a URL for Free’s article?
Danae had rounds with Miss Tickly remember Bridgette ?
I just visited Free and they were searching for the original URL where Danae posted her information. H/T STE=Q who found it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2606951/posts?page=1545#1545
Where they are discussing WND article:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2703258/posts
After reading the URL, I remember the conversation. No, I don’t remember who Tickley was arguing with at Free; there were several.
Oh, I remember Danae. She and Tickly got into it and I never could figure why. This is like the inexplicable arguments at CW.
Danae is the person who, long ago, mistakenly said that she got her own COLB (or her mother did for her) in 2007 when I think it was actually before then, something like 2000, iirc. She owned up to her mistake, but the the Freepers laid into her and Dr. P. was involved, too. He said that he debunked her COLB as bogus.
I thought that the bet was between someone OTHER than Starwise. I think they’re wrong on that. I can check and get back to you. (Wait! I see Bridgette found it. Yes, it was the infamous bot james777, who (it’s said) has been banned.) I read about that bet at the time and the bot lost the bet and he did pay up. (They say.)
Doesn’t Sharon at Post & Email have a long-form copy that someone got just a few weeks ago? Mid-March?
And ladysforest’s investigator videotaped the clerk at the HDOH, very recently, telling the investigator how to obtain a copy of a long-form BC. So they LIE, but that’s no surprise. They’ve been lying all along.
More “BIG GUNS” are getting on the airways to protect the ONE! Who will be the next family member to come out? Ohh Maya, Maya.. you must protect your money source. Lamestream media is all over the story to cover their own behinds! Go Donald…keep it up!
Obama’s half-sister calls birther rumors ‘a shame’
By JENNIFER EPSTEIN | 4/12/11 8:00 AM EDT
Birthers should put their challenges about President Barack Obama’s origins “to bed,” his half-sister says. [Ain’t Gonna Happen Sister!]
The continuing debate over whether he was born in the United States or Kenya, Indonesia or elsewhere is “unfortunate,” Maya Soetoro-Ng said in an interview with CNN set to air Tuesday night. “He was born in Hawaii, there is a tremendous amount of proof that has already been presented.”
But, more than two years into his presidency, Obama’s birthplace is still being questioned. One recent poll found just over half of Republican primary voters saying they have doubts about where he was born, and Donald Trump has seized on that uncertainty to build support for a possible bid for the GOP nomination.
“I think that it is time for people to put that to bed, put it to rest completely,” said Soetoro-Ng, who has the same mother as the president – but a different father –and grew up with him. She’s on a press tour to promote her children’s book, “Ladder to the Moon.”
“I think it’s a shame and I think that my brother should definitely be president for a second term,” she said. “And that’s really all I have to say about it.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/52995.html
What’s a shame is a lying sob (son of Barack?) who sends a patriot to PRISON rather than to produce what he claims to have and what his supporters claim will prove his eligibility. That’s what’s shame. Shame on you, Maya. Although, to be fair, perhaps she’s been deceived like so many others. Maya, we’ll “put it to bed” when he PROVES THAT WHAT HE SAYS IS TRUE. PROVE YOUR ELIGIBILITY, OBAMA (or whoever you are).
I bet that’s all she has to say about it. Just like Mark. Mum’s the word. Who’s the Mum, btw?
Read this Leftist gem…Obama has provided proof to “all of the people that matter!” Yeah, Chelsea, are you one that matters? Most news outlets have seen it too! Get over it yourself, Liar.
Was Born in Hawaii – Get Over it
April 12, 2011 08:35 AM EDT
by Chelsea Hoffman
President Obama was born in Hawaii, so get over it. That’s pretty much what his sister is saying to birthers like Donald Trump after being interviewed by CNN. Maya Soetoro-Ng is even calling Trump out personally for making claims that Obama was born in Kenya.
The CNN interview is an informative one, and the president’s sister isn’t holding back like he has over this issue. This is because the White House issued a statement saying it isn’t going to dignify these birther theories with any response. Well, the reason why the White House is ignoring birther twits like Donald Trump and his ilk is because Obama has already produced his birth certificate and proof of his citizenship to all of the people who matter. There is no doubt that the man was born in Hawaii. Most news outlets have even seen it, according to CNN.
http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979215700
The WH won’t give a response because they have boxed themselves into a corner. There IS no response they could give that will allow Barry to come out smelling like a rose. If he has a BC proving he’s eligible, then he can’t explain why instead of showing it he spent millions to not show it and even let a husband and father of three go to prison instead of showing it. If he doesn’t have a BC, well then . . .
Did I read that interview with Maya correctly? Did she say EXACTLY the same words that Auntie Z said?
From Maya?
“She says that President Obama was born in Hawaii and that Trump’s claims are outright lies. She’s even invited him to speak directly to her!
“I respect his wealth, but I only demand him to respect us — And I challenge him. Let him call me and we’ll talk.””
From Aunt Zeituni:
She now has strong words for Trump.
“I respect his wealth, but I only demand him to respect us,” said Onyango. Onyango says she hopes her message gets to Trump.
“And I challenge him. Let him call me and we’ll talk,” said Onyango. “Let him come and ask me.”
Sorry, I should have provided a link
http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/12003999539847/obama-s-aunt-furious-trump-questions-his-birthplace/
Or maybe that was just a REALLY poorly written article, and those were Zeituni’s words, repeated again in the Maya article because they were just so darn compelling.
Somebody must be getting desperate if he’s using known cheater Auntie Zeituni as a character witness.
OMG the Hawaii dept of health is completely without shame!
Okay. Check out that pasted on head on the photo with Auntie. Another photoshop job. It’s amazing. It never ends. Did you catch how the evidence she gives is only something that’s been formerly referenced as “evidence?” That being this supposed letter BHO Sr. sent Stepmother Sarah? But notice what Zeituni says, “My brother was sending my mother how happy he was there was ANOTHER baby boy on the OTHER SIDE.”
Oh, Trump has to “respect us” and not assault her dignity. Playing the race card. Didn’t take Zeituni long to catch on to the ways of US race baiters, did it? They are SO afraid that Trump is investigating and will turn something up. Now they know how Sarah Palin must have felt, except Sarah knew there was nothing to find.
SEO: I didn’t see a link where Maya said the same thing, but Maya is using the exact talking points that others are using. I watched the interview with her and for the first time, I do see a resemblance to SADOS. Not sure, however, that I see any resemblance between Maya and Barry or Barry and SADOS, although I do see a strong resemblance between Mark and Barry, which is odd, considering different mothers (and neither of them looks like the supposed father).
Earth to Chelsea: We the People of the United States of America are, as his EMPLOYERS, the ONLY people “who matter.” He has not shown us ANY proof whatsoever that he’s eligible under the Constitution to be POTUS. Whatever his sister says is suspect (because she’s his sister, if she is) and hearsay. Besides, she’s far younger than he is and therefore has NO first-person knowledge about the circumstances of his birth. If, as is likely, there’s something “embarrassing” (as admitted by passport file cauterizers and his attorneys) about his birth circumstances, then is it likely that Maya would have been told this embarrassing information? She didn’t even live with Barry for most of her life, so what can she know of his birth and early life?
OMG. I missed that one! “Most news outlets have even seen it, ACCORDING TO CNN.” Would that be the CNN interview by Candy where she lied about that? So the lies compound each other. Most news outlets have seen NOTHING. Who cares what biased, partisan, Obama-toady news outlets think they’ve seen? What matters is what JUDGES in eligibility cases have seen and they’ve seen NOTHING!
“She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten,”
Funny how the Nordyke twins born Aug. 5 1961 at Kapiolani hospital have BCs that are COMPLETELY typed. Yes, they are signed and dated, but please…they are typewritten. Nothing on the Nordyke BCs are handwritten. If Obama was born there the day before, his BC would be completely typewritten, too.
Hi Tickly !
EXCELLENT POINT, MissTickly!
It really depends on what she is calling the “original” . Is the Original from Kenya or is the Original from Indonesia? Or is that Original from the US? We know how they use their words to misdirect.
It doesn’t say she found the original Hawaiian birth record. Wouldn’t that clarify it?
If the Nordyke twins have totally typed BC’s, then logically we would assume that Obama’s would be also. So if his is half typed and half handwritten, it is logical to believe that his is not a Hawaiian birth record.
I still think about ” Hawaiian officials say that the certificaTION is, in fact, only one piece of abundant evidence of Obama’s birth in Hawaii. ” There is abundant evidence to prove his birth? Because it is a CertificaTION – that means someone was questioning the birth and needed more proof. If the proof was accepted, it might turn into a CertifiCATE. Am I correct in thinking this?
A Certificate is not questioned and is authentic. Obama doesn’t have a Certificate.
So if his is half typed and half handwritten, it is logical to believe that his is not a Hawaiian birth record.
It could be a stolen blank form, later filled in completely ?
Maybe it was partially typed in 1961 but never completed, pending supplementary information. Maybe by the time somebody decided to “complete” the BC it was going on 50 years later and nobody could even FIND a typewriter to use to finish it, so they had to handwrite the rest.
Maybe they got affidavits and found some doctor willing to sign 50 years after the fact. 🙂
Why are Former Investigative Journalists not Investigating?
FOX NEWS ANCHOR CONTINUES CHARADE TO PROTECT OBAMA AND HERSELF
April 12, 2011 Snips
The following letter was sent to Greta Van Susteren of Fox News:
I caught the end of Trump on Greta’s show last night. I missed the part where they discussed the BC, but I did hear him say that the issue of why Obamacare doesn’t get sent asap to SCOTUS for a ruling is similar to the BC issue. His brilliant point was that in both cases, Obama is preventing the cases from going to the SCOTUS, at great expense to the taxpayers and, in the case of Obamacare, corporations that are having to retool to deal with the new regulations, which may in a few years be thrown out anyway. Trump said that Obama is afraid to have him as his opponent. I think he’s right, because Donald tells it like it is and is NOT afraid of either the Obama machine OR the lamestream media.
The transcript of Greta’s show: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/transcript/will-birther-issue-backfire-trump?page=1
Part of the conversation:
VAN SUSTEREN: All right, the birther issue — and I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but I’ve heard you say that are you doing something. I don’t agree with you on this whole birther issue. Plus, I think you’re doing a great fund-raiser for the Democratic Party. But putting that aside, you — you — you have said that you are investigating. What are you doing?
TRUMP: Well, I think it’s a very popular issue, and I think that nobody has solved anything. A lot of people are calling my office. They just did a poll, 75 percent of the Republicans think there really could be something to it and about 30 percent of the Republicans don’t think that Obama was born in this country. He hasn’t provided a birth certificate. It’s a certificate of live birth, which is totally, totally different. He hasn’t — I mean, there’s so many different things that he hasn’t done. He’s spending a fortune in legal fees to try and get away from the issue.
So I’m a little bit surprised at you. His grandmother said very, very plainly…
VAN SUSTEREN: What are you doing, though?
TRUMP: His grandmother…
VAN SUSTEREN: Yes, but I…
TRUMP: Greta, his grandmother said very plainly that he was born in Kenya, until all of the handlers went crazy, and then 60 seconds later, she maybe came up with a different answer, but nobody really heard it. I mean, there’s a lot of crazy things going on here!
VAN SUSTEREN: What are you doing, though, specifically, Donald?
TRUMP: I’m looking into it very seriously.
VAN SUSTEREN: Like what, though?
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: I don’t want to tell you, Greta. I don’t want to go into that. There’s no reason to go into that in great detail. But I can tell you I have great resources and I’m looking into it very seriously. As an example, where are his hospital records? How come his family is arguing over which hospital he was born in in Hawaii? They don’t even know which hospital he was born in. But the grandmother said he was born in Kenya!
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: This is not an issue — I’m surprised at you, Greta. This is not an issue that they like.
…snip!
VAN SUSTEREN: You know what, Donald? I suspect that he does, but he’s using this as enormous fund-raising because every time people complain about it, I bet money comes in over the transom to the Democratic Party. I don’t think tactically that he wants to produce it.
TRUMP: You know what? I disagree with you. I think it’s a very bad issue for him and I think he loses a lot. And if he would do the favor — he would do this country a big favor, if he has a birth certificate, a real birth certificate, not a certificate of live birth, which is totally different and a much, much lower standard — if he has a birth certificate, I think he’d produce it and he’d produce it fast. And I’d love to see him produce it because I don’t think this should be an issue. I would love to see it produced, Greta
Does it sound as if the media have been ordered to find out what Donald Trump is up to? Was Greta on a mission? I hate to think so because I like Greta. She’s the best interviewer on the planet, imho.
Explanation of The Unity of Citizenship Theory
ARE NATURAL LAW AND THE UNITY THEORY COMPATIBLE AND COMPLEMENTARY?
by Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
Apr. 12, 2011) Snip
It has been my position and I have written on it in my blog that John McCain is a “natural born Citizen” because he was born abroad to a U.S. citizen father and mother who were serving in the armies of the state. See Vattel, Section 217. Furthermore, Panama, having earlier amended its Constitution, followed jus sanguinis when he was born.
Interesting read. I didn’t know that Mario considered McCain a natural Born citizen because the parents were serving in the US armed forces. Isn’t this different than what Leo said?
Barry Belongs in Gitmo!
Bill O’Reilly tried to put the Facts about Obama to rest on the infamous “Fact- Or, SPIN Zone!” He used a True and False forum of questions about Obama. He said they called the DOH today to find that his birth certificate is in a bound book? This can be seen in their office in Hawaii, but of course they aren’t going to let you see it. Sure Bill. Then they showed the normal digitalized Certification that we are all so familiar with. Now those that are inquiring and questioning Obama are doing this to delegitimize Obama before an election!!
There will be a video tomorrow that will make you want to kick Bill right in the teeth. The blond gal, Monica,, who was on with him was saying that these questions have continued because he wasn’t vetted by the media. (She was so right!) Monica wants to know his grades (Bill asks what were Bush’s grades – misdirect), and if he took economics, and who paid for his college. The progressive mouth Colmes was talking over her as he usually does. They talked medical records not being seen, his doctor said he was in good health (and Bill misdirects again by saying what Bush or Clinton didn’t show), not seeing his thesis–he didn’t write one (Bill goes to Hillary’s thesis about Saul Alinsky being leaked), about their law licenses. Others may add information that I have forgotten. I think he covered about 8 – 10 items. (Oh, # of assistants that MO has in comparison to others). Bill said it was false and Obama didn’t receive foreign aid (no backup to this statement). Monica wanted to know who paid for his education.
So now after you listen to Bill there should be no questions. Got that? There was nothing said about the reason people are continuing this quest is because he is not eligible.. and doesn’t meet the Constitutional requirement of NBC. Am I saying there is collusion going on…yes definitely! Donald Trump is going to be proven wrong according to Colmes and O’Reilly.
Monica said, this is a problem because, “We gave the keys to the Kingdom to a STRANGER!” AMEN!
Colmes says that the crazy people are inventing things!
He said they called the DOH today to find that his birth certificate is in a bound book?
Isn’t that the book that someone found that did not have a date range like all of the others ? That was VERY suspicious ?
We’re in a game of Risk. They know that we know.
The Simple Truth is Dreams of My Father and The Audacity of Hope are myths. Except for the idealogy that was deliberately conveyed. Winds sure do look ugly to me. no? stinky, too.
what is “climate control”? its in the federal budget big time. hmmm. climate control? so much for Mother Earth, a law being established in South America as we blog. Trees and Bugs have equal rights with human beings. no kidding…. Indoor gardens coming to your Food market real soon, too. Yeah, multi floor farms. sunlight is not good. I printed out the story for posterity. yesterday. yeah, nature is not necessarily good for nature. and transportation is not necessary, either.
whoops! wrong thread.
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wrong thread, but same bat channel.
Mother Earth Laws
http://www.canada.com/news/world/document+would+give+Mother+Earth+same+rights+humans/4597840/story.html
Bill O’ Reilly, “Obama Deserves to be treated honestly, does he not?”
[Yes, as HONESTLY as he has treated the citizens of the USA, Bill!]
And he stands by his research!
Just the facts, Jack! And so you have it….
Bill O’Reilly Caught Lying About Obama’s Records – 4/12/11
Bill O’Reilly Finally Admits No Obama Birth Certificate Released – 4/12/11
He said that the state of Hawaii has “once again” affirmed the existence of the BC. Is he talking about that Isikoff interview with a FORMER Hawaii official, Fukino, who NO LONGER SPEAKS FOR THE STATE OF HAWAII? NAME THE OFFICIAL WHO VOUCHED FOR THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE BC, O’REILLY.
FOX News’ Bill O’Reilly failed to report on Obama’s selective service card as was advertised on Fox News, but he did touch on some of the other hidden Obama records.
O’Reilly finally admitted after nearly 3 years of lying that Obama has not released a birth certificate. He also said his investigation found Obama was born at a hospital in Hawaii , but fails to provide any evidence to back up his theory. He then brings up Michelle Obama’s “court ordered inactive” law license, but fails to mention it is court ordered inactive. I guess the spin doesn’t stop there!?
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/oreilly-admits-obama-didnt-release.html
Bridgette: Did you notice that he said that “we” or “I” contacted (implied?) the Hawaiian Dept. of Health “today” (which was yesterday) and they assured O’Reilly or his peeps that the birth certificate (or whatever it is) is in “a bound book” there. Exact words Fukino used: Bound book. But here’s the difference: FUKINO doesn’t work for the HDOH, anymore, so she can say anything she wants. She’s NOT speaking in any official capacity for the HODH. IF O’Reilly or minions truly called the HDOH and someone there told him that Obama’s record is on file in a bound book there, then SOMEBODY’S LYING. The HDOH officially have told numerous members of the public for over 2 years that they CANNOT RELEASE ANYTHING ABOUT HIS BC OR EVEN THAT HE HAS ONE OR EVEN THAT HE EVER ORDERED A COPY OR EVEN THAT HE DIDN’T ORDER A COPY, ETC.
SO either O’Reilly is lying or the HDOH was lying. They COULDN’T have told O’Reilly or minions about that BC being on file there, in a bound book, with doctor’s signature, etc., UNLESS they were lying to others who asked or UNLESS the “No Spin Zone” is spinning and did not call OFFICIALS at the HDOH.
IF they told this to O’Reilly, a member of the media (a COMMENTATOR, not a REPORTER) or one of his MINIONS (a staffer, not even a commentator, not even a reporter), then they should be willing to tell the same to any other reporter. Sharon Rondeau, perhaps?
I wish I had video. It was during the infuriating segment with Monica and Colmes. He interrupted Monica to say this as an aside. That they called there and got the “facts”. Maybe it’s in the vids you linked; I haven’t watched them yet. But if they’re just his stupid “talking points”, it’s not in that part of the show.
Renee
What you are recalling is the Index Record that apparently had a name was unlike any of the other pages or other years. Photo’s of the index are available but it certainly is not a birth certificate . It is hard to tell what they are talking about .
Way too much talk…….. Once he gave his consent to have his COLB published on the web he lost all claims of privacy to the documents …… They should be producing a certified copy of the birth certificate…….. It is as simple as that.
Someone posted that online. It was noted that the book someone mentioned that had his name in it was the only volume that had no date index. All the others did except the one with his name in it. I just remembered that part. I think it was Butter, Tickly or Ladysforest blog. I have forgotten, but it was pretty recent.
Birth index
“The birth index” is of particular interest because in March of 2010 Obama’s name was not in the 1960-64 “birth index” book at the HDOH office but by June 2010 the HDOH presented a birth index book they claimed was the 1960-64 index which had Obama’s name in it. The name above Obama’s is “Obado, Duplicate Mae”. If there was a duplicate record for Mae Obado the other record for her should have been right where Obama’s name is now posted. If Abercrombie is correct and there is no birth certificate for Obama at the HDOH, the birth index in March was correct, the birth index in June was manipulated to insert Obama’s name falsely, and the HDOH was most probably refusing to show the genuine computer printout because they knew it would not have Obama’s name in it.”
That is it AOne ! Thank you !
It was Ladysforest.
Thank you too Kathy !
My guess as to what has transpired in the HDOH…….
The bound book in the office contains the original application
for a birth certificate filed by the original clerk. This original
clerk I will call THE CLERK REGISTRAR, a sort of insider
office term for any clerk at any public access window at any
of the various HDOH offices around the islands. This differentiates
the clerk registrar from THE STATE REGISTRAR who is the state
head of his/her own department.
So when a COLB says FILED BY REGISTRAR, it merely means
that the application is on hold waiting for further documentation before being forwarded, kind of like a bank withholding use of funds of a check until further evidence appears to clear it. That check or application has to be stored separate from other documents that are ready to be cleared. Hence the special bound book at HDOH and the CLERK REGISTRAR is indeed the REGISTAR referred to on the COLB (NOT THE STATE REGISTRAR).
Some further documentation was presented, hence we have both hand written and type written notes in that file, but the information was NOT sufficient to trigger the issuance of a birth certificate, and that file sits in limbo.
Much later, a COLB can be generated showing only FILED BY REGISTRAR and shows only to office insiders what and where things are.
In the meantime we have a divorce of BHOSr and SAD, followed by marriage of SAD to Lolo Soetoro. Then we have the adoption of BHOJr by LS. What,if any, affect these events have on the records is beyond my understanding and best left to legal minds to sort through.
I do have 2 questions about these events. I have read conflicting stories about whether indeed BHOSr and SAD were legally married in a ceremony. Also I do NOT know if LS adopted BHOJr in Hawaii or in Indonesia, or was it faked.
If adoption was legal and occurred in HI, how would that affect the
FILED COLB INFO. If it occurred in Indonesia, would HDOH even know about it and change the status of the application.
Vic, we’ve discussed that exact same theory, but you do have a way of putting it that makes it easily understood. Thanks.
About their marriage: Nobody’s found a marriage record, although I do believe that someone claims to have received “index data” from the HDOH about their marriage. Is it legit? Who can know for sure? People who have looked in the marriage announcements in the newspaper microfilms at the library–announcements that were supposedly similarly derived from public records–have found no announcement of their marriage.
Nobody knows if Lolo adopted Barry in HAWAII. It appears that he had to have been adopted in Indonesia to have been allowed to register at school there as an Indonesian citizen. Anything could be faked, as we’re finding out.
If an adoption took place in Hawaii, if it was not an open adoption, then the original records would be sealed and a new record created showing the adoptive parents as the birth parents. It’s known that when SAD divorced Lolo, one child under 18 and one child over 18 were mentioned. The child over 18 was dependent upon those parents for educational support. That child MIGHT have been Barry, but could well have been the adopted stepsister Lia. Nobody knows. But if Barry was that child, then he wouldn’t have been mentioned in that divorce, unless Lolo had some LEGAL status over him.
Other researchers have looked into the “date filed” and “date accepted” issue and also who exactly these various registrars were. Iirc, there could be two separate registrars involved. Local and state. The person who had control in the end, who accepted and numbered the certificate, was the STATE registrar. Information about a birth could be filed with a local registrar and kept in a pending status until (if EVER) the evidence provided was authenticated and ACCEPTED by the STATE registrar.
If true, the fact that his documents are in a bound book on the first floor of the HDOH and cannot be copied and sent out, seems to indicate that his records differ from the usual records. If they were never accepted, then they couldn’t be copied, certified, and sent out. He might be able to inspect them, but there’s no provision in Hawaiian law to copy and distribute THOSE TYPES of pending verification “vital records.” That’s my guess. They cleverly parse everything in order to mislead from the truth.
Hi NBC, Welcome. Your questions are our questions too!
No record of a marriage between BHO Sr. and SAD has been found. That a marriage occurred was mentioned in their divorce papers.
“February 2 1961 BHO Sr. supposedly marries Stanley Ann Dunham at Wailuku, Maui, Hawaii, according to the 1964 divorce papers.”
No adoption papers have been located to prove that Lolo Soetoro adopted Obama, but yet Obama had the name Barry Soetoro when he attended school in Indonesia according to some school records. Whether those records are also a fabrication is unknown also. If Barry Soetoro changed his name, those records are also unknown.
Basically, we know nothing concrete or absolute about the Zero other than he is living in our WH.
An Analysis of the Current Revelations of Hawaii’s Dr. Chiyome Fukino to NBC News Regarding Obama’s Place of Birth
By Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
April 12, 2011 Snips
Isikoff states: “Contacted by NBC, Fukino expanded on previous public statements and made two key points when asked about Trump’s recent comments.”
Fukino no longer works for the Hawaii Department of Health. Why did Mr. Isikoff not contact the current health department director who overseas the birth certificates in Hawaii? Why do we have to hear from someone who no longer works for Hawaii and no longer has any control over or access to its vital records files? Why can we not hear from the current official who could tell us what is in the file today?
Isikoff then tells us: “She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files.”
Why does Fukino tell us that the real birth certificate showed the doctor on it but she fails to tell us that Obama’s birth occurred in a hospital which is what Obama told the public occurred? After all, she knows how much “birthers” have been demanding to see conclusive proof that Obama was born in Kapi’olani Hospital, the hospital in which Obama says he was born. There would be no violation of any privacy laws for her to simply say that he was born in a hospital, without giving the name of the hospital, just like she said that a doctor delivered Obama and signed the birth certificate. What is suspect is that there were numerous doctors at that time who could have delivered Obama but only two hospitals in which he could have been born, Kapi’olani Hospital or Queens Hospital. In other words, the doctors get lost in the shuffle but the hospitals do not. Just saying that a doctor signed the birth certificate does not open up channels of information that can be independently verified. On the other hand, knowing the birth hospital pins down the place of birth to only two specific locations in which there would be contained medical evidence of the alleged birth there.
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2011/04/analysis-of-current-revelations-of.html
Bill O’Reilly Aids and Abets Hawaii Department of Health Law-Breakers
Apr. 13, 2011 — snips
On April 12, 2011, bloviator and faux commentator Bill O’Reilly referred to “internet spin” and the importance of honesty in regard to reporting on Barack Hussein Obama, then proceeded to lie about the law in the state of Hawaii which governs the availability of records.
O’Reilly has tried to marginalize Donald Trump, along with fellow Fox News show host Glenn Beck, on the issue of Obama’s original, long-form birth certificate. O’Reilly claimed that Trump’s reason for speaking out was that he “wanted attention.” Beck and O’Reilly then discussed whether or not they “could vote” for Trump,and Beck stated that Trump is making him “uncomfortable” and stated that the document Trump released is “worse than Obama’s.”
How could that be true? At least it had a seal and two signatures. Nothing Obama has released contains that..
O’Reilly claimed that the Hawaii Department of Health’s statement that Obama’s original vital record is on file there proves that Obama was born there. However, he has ignored the following:
AllAfrica article, paragraph 11, which states “Little wonder then why Kenyan-born Barack Obama, America’s first Black President,…”
Members of the Kenyan Parliament stating on the record that Obama was born in Kenya (a pity that Greta Van Susteren’s “On the Record” has not reported this to the American people, instead of saying “I don’t agree with you on this whole birther issue” and failing to investigate Trump’s claim that Obama’s grandmother has stated that he was born in Kenya);
This statement with audio that a member of the Luo tribe and “Barack Obama, a Kenyan citizen” might be elected the U.S. president;
The headline here announcing “Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate”;
NPR stating that Obama was born in Kenya;
Obama’s own wife describing Kenya as Obama’s “home country”;
The Nigerian Observer identifying Obama as “Kenyan-born”;
This article from Indonesia Matters stating exactly where in Kenya Obama was born.
O’Reilly, Beck, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and many other highly-paid commentators have ignored this evidence that Obama was not born in Hawaii, and Donald Trump is the sole voice demanding answers.
From above article
Will Monica Crowley Continue to Ask Questions about Obama’s Past?
GUEST CHALLENGES O’REILLY’S CONTENTION THAT OBAMA IS NOT CONCEALING HIS PAST
April 13, 2011
mail@monicamemo.com
The following letter was sent this morning to television and radio commentator Monica Crowley, who appeared last night on Bill O’Reilly’s program, refuting many of his arguments about Obama’s having done nothing differently than past presidents.
Dear Monica,
I am a 20-year military service disabled vet (10 years Air Force & 10 years Navy) and a VERY good friend of the recently imprisoned Army officer Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, who had the audacity to ask his superiors (for one year!) to ascertain if President Obama was a legitimate Commander-in-Chief.
I saw your interview last night with O’Reilly & Alan Colmes……and I just wanted to THANK YOU from my heart (along with the mass amount of birthers I email with) who were singing your praises after the show for your courage to see the reality of this impossible dilemma we are in with this eligibility issue.
Bill O’Reilly Michelle Obama’s Law License: Michelle’s Law License Inactive Voluntarily Under Discipline
April 13, 2011 Snips
Bill O’Reilly tried to separate “fact from myth,” and put “internet propaganda” to rest. Most of the dialog was about Obama and his legitimacy for natural-born status, but at the end he states Michelle Obama’s law license is inactive – which is true, but is not nearly the whole story. Her license is inactive, and it was voluntary, but her choices were not choices you or I might want to face.
It appears that she chose to go inactive because she was facing some disciplinary action. We know this because we have a screen shot of the disciplinary record under which she went inactive, and we have an indepth study of the “Rules” under which she went inactive. There is a “Rule” under discipline, and there is a “Rule” that is voluntary and not binding to discipline. If she wants to reactivate her law license, she must appear for a hearing having to do with the Disciplinary action. That is not true for a simple Inactive status.
Then there is this: the year Barack was elected to the U.S. Senate from Illinois, someone started deleting, adding, changing, and retitling official “Rules.” The truth may have been disguised a bit, but if you examine the convoluted history of the “Rules,” you can clearly see she is inactive under discipline.
Item: Michelle Obama lost her law license.
False. She currently has an inactive law license.
Continues:
http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2011/04/bill-oreilly-michelle-obamas-law-license-michelles-law-license-inactive-voluntarily-under-discipline/
Read Below..what was found about this US News article! Adding Paul Bedard to the JournOlist!
GOP Boss Says Birther Claims a Distraction
By Paul Bedard
April 13, 2011
Newly-installed Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus has a message for Donald Trump and other so-called “birthers”: Shut up!
Priebus, who’s starting to score some fundraising and organizational victories inside GOP HQ, having taken over for controversial former Chairman Michael Steele, says the debate over President Obama’s birthplace and whether he can be president is a huge distraction away from the party’s effort to fight Democratic spending and tax plans.
In an interview, we asked if he, like Trump, is a birther. “I’m not,” says Priebus. “I believe that the president was born in Hawaii.” [Read 10 things you didn’t know about Reince Priebus.]
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/04/13/gop-boss-wants-trump-to-shut-up-on-birther-claims
H/T Zilla of NY Way to just makes stuff up, propaganda machine!
What a disgraceful piece of slander. US News just went and wrote an imaginary story with no basis whatsoever in fact. The Onion is more credible! The quote is fake, Priebus never said it, US News is just making stuff up.
The fiction is debunked here:
This is just more proof that the enemedia will do anything to protect their favorite socialist Obama.
PRIEBUS NEVER SAID IT!!
Reince Priebus completely denied this story over twitter.
http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/04/state-run-media-now-completely-making-up-stories-to-discredit-trump/
US news needs to apologize and issue a retraction immediately. Paul Bedard should be fired.
Well, you see, this is a twofer for the lying lamestream media: They can discredit Trump and the “birthers” (they think) and at the same time erode Priebus’s reputation by alienating him from the majority of Republicans who believe Obama’s INeligibility has legs.
Doesn’t it become a discrediting five-fer? Trump, birthers, Priebus, and especially US NEWS and Paul Bedard!
It seemed peculiar since I read the Priebus met with Trump recently..so my antennae was up. Then I found Priebus and Gateway had already debunked it! Unfortunate to find another once reputable magazine has unethical writers employed. Scratch Newsweek, Time, and now US News. Its time to hire writers who have integrity!
Paul Bedard – US News – Senior Writer, Expertise: Washington Whispers
I think at this point they don’t care if they lie. I think they deliberately lie, because then the damage gets done, the idea is planted in the collective “mind” that Priebus agrees that Barry’s ineligibility is a non-issue, and when they’re called out on their “mistake” any “correction” gets buried and not reported anywhere else except the original lying news outlet.
They are desperate to discredit the story of Obama’s ineligibility, by any means necessary. They are extremely afraid of Trump because he’s so wealthy.
When people corrupt institutions by using massive wealth (Soros and others) to buy off the corruptible, the only thing they fear is someone else coming along who can up the ante. That’s Trump.
If he’s really investigating, if he’s really gathering information, if he’s really using his “sources” and his resources, then they must be quaking in their boots because if The Donald (and Limbaugh, too, for that matter) wants to buy information and proof, he can.
We can only hope and pray that he can (or already has) pulled this off. He didn’t get where he is by being stupid. Or by not outfoxing the foxes in business, the media, governments, and any other entity he’s had to deal with in order to navigate his way to the top.
Somebody like Trump knows how to play the game. He plays well and he plays to win. We must also pray that, in his heart, he’s a patriot who loves this CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC as much as we do. When he speaks, it certainly sounds as if his heart is in the right place.
Birthers Need to Correct Bill O ‘Reilly too! Does O’Reilly have Obots as Researchers?
O’Reilly falsely claims Conn. was residence for Obama Sr.
Fox News host tries to explain anomaly in president’s Social Security number
Posted: April 14, 2011
O’Reilly falsely claims Conn. was residence for Obama Sr.
Fox News host tries to explain anomaly in president’s Social Security number
In an attempt to explain why Barack Obama, who lived in Hawaii as a teen, has a Social Security number that indicates he had a Connecticut address, Fox News host Bill O’Reilly asserted the president’s father lived in the state.
But there is no evidence that Barack Obama Sr., who left Hawaii in 1962 to study at Harvard in Massachusetts and then returned to his home country of Kenya, ever lived in Connecticut
The controversy over Obama’s Social Security number traces back to a WND story May 11, 2010, reporting that two private investigators working independently were asking why Obama was using a number set aside for applicants in Connecticut while there is no record he ever had a mailing address in the state.
The records indicate the number was issued between 1977 and 1979, when Obama was between 16 and 18 years old and living in Hawaii.
In his viewer email segment Wednesday night, O’Reilly was asked: “What about Obama’s Connecticut Social Security card? He never lived there.”
O’Reilly responded: “Obama’s father lived in Connecticut for several years, and sometimes the child gets the Social Security number based on the father’s address.”
The Social Security website confirms that the first three digits in Obama’s Social Security number are reserved for applicants with Connecticut addresses, 040-049.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=287253#ixzz1Jb4R8asB
That’s a new claim. Sometimes the child gets the SS# based on the father’s address? Well, Bill, exactly what WAS that address? Surely you know, since you know (against all other evidence ever provided, even by Barry himself) that BHO Sr. lived in CT in 1977. He was supposed to be in Kenya with his familIES there. With Ruth and Mark and David, who hadn’t mysteriously died yet. With Kezia and that family. Did he know Jael yet? Why would he be in CT when he graduated from Harvard and returned to Kenya BEFORE Mark and David were born? In the mid-1960s. What’s the address, Bill? Give it to us so REAL journalists, those being now, unfortunately the “pajamas media”, can do ACTUAL RESEARCH AND REPORTING.
At age 15/16, Obama wasn’t a “child”. If he was old enough to get a job, he was old enough to apply for his own SS card from Hawaii, where he was supposed to be living. Why wouldn’t his mother have gotten the card for him? She’s the one who had custody. Obama Sr. was out of his life from age 2, except for one supposed short visit to Hawaii about 1971. Or is Barry lying about that, too? Why wouldn’t his grandparents, with whom he lived from age 10, get the SS card for him, if he were too dumb to fill out the form for himself? For what reason might BHO Sr, if he were living in CT at the time, have gotten an SS card for Barry? Now there’s a question. Consider: Did BHO Sr. want to claim some kind of government benefits? Maybe a tax break for a kid he had nothing to do with except allegedly fathering? Now that could be, considering the scamming that appears to be rampant in that family. Auntie Zeituni? Uncle Omar? Living illegally in the US for years AND collecting government benefits–illegally.
Wayne Madsen, in the story at fellowshipofminds, said, “Without a Democratic primary challenger, it can be safely assumed that the White House will pull out every arrow in its quiver to suppress negative information about Obama.” Indeed. We’re seeing it now, even from FOX’s O’Reilly. And FOX getting Glenn Beck off the air before the campaigns ramp up. Is that a coincidence? I think not.
WND says this is the source of the alleged “slightly inconvenient fact that Daniels failed to uncover or disclose“–This writer’s unfounded, unsupported, undocumented allegation that BHO Sr. lived for several years in CT after divorcing Ann. (Didn’t Ann divorce him? Didn’t he not even respond? Several years after the divorce, it would still be the 1960s, and this SS# was obtained in the late 1970s–a decade later!) http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2999618/obama_social_security_number_fraud_pg2.html?cat=9
The woman, Carol Gilbert, with no logical basis, asked if Daniels traced BHO Sr’.s SS# instead of Barry’s, which goes to show that this award winning travel writer didn’t do any research whatsoever into the issue.
For what reason would a foreign student NEED a SS#? Can foreigners get SS#’s? I’m asking; I don’t know the answer.
Did BHO SR. register for selective service in 1980, using that SS#? Why would a former foreign student who was working for the Kenyan government register for selective service in the USA?
Gilbert wrote, “Throughout the attestation, Daniels speaks of Barrack Hussein Obama spelled exactly as it appears here- incorrectly with 2 Rs. The caption on the document spells the president’s name correctly. So what name did Daniels search exactly? Barack, the president’s name, or Barrack, not the president’s name?”
Since nobody knows what his name really is or how to spell it, people have to use every permutation, don’t they? And while Gilbert is busy ridiculing Daniels for allegedly incorrectly spelling Barry’s alleged first name, Gilbert herself absolutely FALSELY refers to World Net Daily as World NEWS Daily. Yuck! Some factchecker!
Gilbert wrote, “In fact Barack Obama’s dad attended college in Connecticut and in 1977, Obama was college aged; is it beyond reason to consider that he might have checked out his father’s alma mater?”
IN FACT? Where are the FACTS? NAME this CT college that she says BHO Sr. attended. Oh, wait! She cites SNOPES as the source: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp “… his father moving to Connecticut to continue his education before returning to Kenya.”
So based upon a geographically challenged writer at the partisan, self-proclaimed factchecking-and-urban-legend-debunking Snopes, Harvard is now in CT. Of course, the SNOPES article has sources, which I haven’t yet checked. I will check and get back to you to see if that the falsehood about CT IS a falsehood, which I suspect. But you never know with this Krewe. Maybe BHO Sr. really attended a community college in CT instead of Harvard. Maybe he’s a total fraud, too.
She used this source, too, which is a good one for information about how this developed:
http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/the-mystery-of-barack-obama-continues/
Huffpo idiots and minions…read the Comment Section so you can learn something. Billyguitar and Twinx…We are a “nest” of followers of the RULE OF LAW and the Constitution. Learn it! Can you write anything longer than a one liner to defend your side? Obama is NOT a natural born citizen and can’t prove his eligibility. Way to support a liar and a fraud! Which Original document did Fukino see? The foreign one or the forged one that is online? What is in the Original document? Do you know more than a 5th grader yet? Thus far, 3rd graders have the upper hand!