First Republican Debate 2016 Open Thread

1909_Tyee_-_Debate_and_Oratory_illustration - CopyTonight is the first debate for qualifying candidates for the Republican nomination for the presidency of the USA.  The debate will be televised on FOX News Channel at 9 p.m. ET.  Who will face off?

Here are the contenders:

Real estate magnate Donald Trump; former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush; Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker; former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee; retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson; Texas Sen. Ted Cruz; Florida Sen. Marco Rubio; Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul; New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie; and Ohio Gov. John Kasich

The roster of 10 candidates was determined based on an average of the five most recent national polls. …

But former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and several others will not be on the prime-time, 9 p.m. ET stage. The seven who did not make the top 10 will be invited to a separate 5 p.m. ET debate. Aside from Perry and Santorum, this includes Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal; former HP head Carly Fiorina; South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham; former New York Gov. George Pataki; and former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore

In the opinion of many, some of those who qualified for the debate aren’t even qualified for the presidency, but that’s a topic for another debate–one that’s not likely to get an airing anywhere on national television (much less the Supreme Court, by the looks of it).

It’s a sad state of affairs when there’s only one woman in this entire bunch, despite the fact that women are THE majority “minority” in this country.

If only we could see a debate between Carly Fiorina and Hillary Clinton. Guess who’d mop of the floor with whom!

That said, no way, no how, should we end up with yet another affirmative action president. Nobody, but nobody, should be finagled into the position of the leader of the free world based upon some physical characteristic that is an accident of birth. (And everybody who runs should PROVE every characteristic of his or her birth, to show Constitutional eligibility for the presidency; but, again, that’s a topic for another debate, one we’ve been having for many years.)

Tonight should be eye opening. We’ll see Donald Trump in an unfamiliar position–unfamiliar to himself as well as to everyone who’s been watching him over the years. Will he rise to the occasion?

So pop some popcorn, crack open a Bud or pour an adult beverage of your choice, and tune in to FOX at 5:00 p.m. ET for the “B team” and/or at 9:00 p.m. ET for the “A team”.

Then we can debate the debate, if you so please.


172 responses to “First Republican Debate 2016 Open Thread

  1. August 8, 2015
    Fox debate by the numbers
    By C. Edmund Wright
    How low has Fox slipped? According to the social media outlets dominated by conservatives, that is the consensus question. Fox’s debate moderation was nothing short of cringe-worthy. The network’s moderators were obsessed with their own face time and with starting fights on stage between participants. It is clear they are intending to doom Donald Trump, while remaining committed to ignoring Ted Cruz. Consider a few stunning – and what should be embarrassing – numbers from Thursday’s debate: 40: Ted Cruz was ignored for 40 straight minutes during the debate – with the mods even skipping Cruz on the topics of Iran and yes, Obamacare. How in the world can you take yourself seriously when you don’t invite Cruz into an Obamacare discussion? Perhaps it’s because Fox was so arrogantly assuring everyone back during the Cruz Obamacare shutdown filibuster that it was going to cost the Republicans the…(Read Full Post)

  2. 5 X’ insulted women ? ….SO HAS O B A M A ! … GET OVER IT!
    stop the SLASHING & GET TO the SOLUTIONS !!! F little KELLY’
    that is the GAME the PLAN ….the corker ? NO just a GAME from
    …. the FOXY ??? BIT*H – LESS that a LADY!!! no one messes ?
    with M Kelly? … times have JUST CHANGED ….WTPOTUS DO’ !!

  3. An Old Recording Of Megyn Kelly Talking About Penises, Breasts,
    And How She Has Sex,
    Proves Trump Was Right Kelly Is Absolute Trash !!!!!!!!!!
    By Ted on August 8, 2015 in Featured, General

    By Theodore Shoebat and Walid Shoebat

    • I remember a discussion between Megyn and some guy (on one of the FOX shows, but before she got her own show) where they discussed a particular sexual apparatus (which I’d never before heard of) that apparently is like a bucking bronco for women (or maybe men, too) that has an artificial male organ attached. At that point, I began to wonder about her. I do think that the guy was deliberately trying to embarrass her, but the entire topic disgusted me.

  4. HO’s don’t SO …Y should WE ?? NO APOLOGIZING …just words

  5. makeminefreedom • an hour ago

    Political correctness and diplomacy are destroying the US. Attempting to please our enemies gives them the advantage. It presupposes that those you are dealing with are honorable. But when the enemy proves itself to be dishonorable the diplomacy must end and military action must begin. Obama has used this same philosophy against Americans that he doesn’t agree with. Using his pen he has bypassed those who do not agree with him. He has reversed the roles of Americans who want to protect this nation with those who want to destroy it. So many Muslims and illegal Hispanics have been permitted to enter the US that the FBI has not has not been able to do proper security checks on them all. Knowing this he still brings thousands more here. His own personal desires have become more important than the protection of this nation. Common sense is not dead but it is being bypassed just like our Constitution. Obama once said that he wanted to remake America. America doesn’t need to be remade. We have a Constitution that spells out our rights. He has clearly violated his oath of office and is endangering American lives. If Congress wasn’t supporting him he would have already been removed from office long ago. Just as Michael Savage has said. We are being attacked by the enemy within.

    • Not unlike the hit job done on Todd Akin. The thing is: seems like he fell for it and gave them fodder, and more fodder, and more fodder. I like the way Scott Walker deals with these “gotcha” attempts.

        • Instead, it seems likely that Trump will continue to pick up support from disgruntled Republicans ??? …
          as he dismisses the current leadership as “stupid” and calls immigrants “murderers and rapists” and waxes lyrical about his intention to “make America great again” without explaining how.

          • Gee, the same people never seemed to have asked Barry what “hope and change” would mean to everyone. Or explore what “fundamental transformation” entailed. Or ask him to lay out his plans with specifics, so everyone would know what they’re getting. EVERYTHING they criticize Trump supporters for (being low information, for example) can be said of OBOTS and Hillary supporters, and to this very day.

            And EVERYTHING they say of Trump (inexperienced in politics, narcissistic, arrogant, cocksure, dishonest, etc.) is TRUE OF BARRY in spades.

  6. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump deserves credit for forcing all 17 Republican candidates to talk about the social costs of illegal immigration, but it is not “Trump’s issue.” We will be making a fatal mistake if we let the media discuss it that way.

    As Ann Coulter has pointed out, this is the most critical issue of the 2016 race because this is the issue that will define whether or not there will even be an American nation recognizable as the “home of the free and land of the brave.”

    But illegal immigration is not “Ann Coulter’s issue” any more than it is “Tom Tancredo’s issue.” It is America’s issue — not only because it will define America in the 21st Century but because it also defines American elections and who will be voting in elections in 2020 and beyond. It also illuminates the power of the mainstream media to keep issues off the national stage.

    Think of illegal immigration this way: If the liberal media can keep illegal alien crime out of the “kitchen table debate,” they can keep any issue out of the debate. And they will if they can get away with it. For those reasons, illegal immigration is much more than an issue of public policy; it is the poster child for media malpractice.

  7. It is painfully obvious that truth is not part of the American lexicon, at least as far as politics is concerned.
    Here are 4 Simple questions from an attorney…are there ANY logical answers ? ….. You be the judge …..
    Here’s what I would like to know. If the TRUTH ever comes out and it is decided that Obama was never eligible to be president, what happens to all the laws he signed into being and all the executive orders? Should they all be null and void? Could be Earth shattering.
    Here are 4 Simple questions from a reputable attorney…This really should get your “gray matter” to churning, even if you are an Obama fan.

    For all you “anti-Fox News” folks, none of this information came from Fox. All of it can be verified from legitimate sources (Wikipedia, the Kapiolani hospital website itself, and a good history book, as noted herein). It is very easy for someone to check
    4 Simple Questions .

    1. Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes. So how can the Obama ‘birth certificate’ state he is “African-American” when the term wasn’t even used at that time ?
    2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961 and Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, Right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father was born in “Kenya, East Africa”.
    This wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet Exist ?
    Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the “British East Africa Protectorate”. (check it below)
    3. On the Birth Certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”.
    This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively.
    The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
    ( )
    Why hasn’t this been discussed in the major medi4.

    Perhaps a clue comes from Obama’s book on his father. He states how proud he is of his father fighting in WW II. I’m not a math genius, so I may need some help from you. Barack Obama’s “birth certificate” says his father was 25 years old in 1961 when Obama was born. That should have put his father’s date of birth approximately 1936 – if my math holds
    (Honest! I did that without a calculator!) Now we need a non-revised history book-one that hasn’t been altered to satisfy the author’s goals-to verify that WW II was basically between 1939 and
    1945. Just how many 3 year olds fight in Wars? Even in the latest stages of WW II his father wouldn’t have been more than 9 years old. Does that mean that Mr. Obama is a liar, or simply chooses to alter the facts to satisfy his imagination or political purposes ?

    Very truly yours,
    RICHARD R. SILVERLIEB Attorney at Law
    354 Eisenhower Parkway Livingston, NJ 07039

    “A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens.
    Send this to as many Patriots as you can! Ask your Republican friends in Washington D.C. If they have a backbone … Why in the hell can’t they use it and get media coverage to explode this across our country? Impeachment in itself is not justice! We are talking orange jumpsuit & long prison sentences.

  8. I’m sticking & standing with TRUMP….. IF IT IS ALL A GAME…
    CAN you really think…… the FIX is not REALLY IN? I DO!
    over due ….BUT say what you say … & stick by it !

    DID ….& HOW SHE …WORE Every Word she PRACTICED 24/7

    • I’ll stick with you, Zen, for the same reasons. It’s all a game, anyway, and we’re probably screwed, anyway, and it’s not as if we get to CHOOSE anymore, anyway. Yeah. I KNOW and she knows what she did. Consider that Facebook sponsored the “debate” and who her bosses are and let’s NEVER forget how NONE OF THEM would “go there” with regard to Barry’s so-called birth certificate, except O’Really who PRETENDED that his crew “found” the birth certificate when all they did was print it out off Daily Kos.

  9. SHE can say ” I BLEW IT ” ?…. EXPLAIN THAT 2 YOUR KIDS!

    WOMEN PERIODS stop in their Mid- 40’s … SOON she is 45 years
    old…. so TRUMP was RIGHT ! …. BLOOD OUT HER NOSE!!!

    • That’s idiotic. All they’re going to do is ensure he runs as a third-party candidate, because they’re dissing him. Do they think he’s going to parse that it’s not the RNC but instead is Kelly or FOX News in general or conservative bloggers? btw, why isn’t there equal concern about the potential for Sanders to run as what he is–an INDEPENDENT?

    • Big mistake. 😡

  10. of course ….lots of fun reads @ lame cherry ….go fetch ….ha

    • Makes wonderful point about what Megyn DIDN’T ASK JEB: About his alleged burglar son and his alleged illegal-Xanax-possessing daughter.

      How’s about this one:

      “Then we have the judgmental Erick Erickson, you know the guy who said we need to dump Donald Trump as Donald Trump just says the wrong things………… Care for an Erick Erickson quote? OK here it is:

      “The nation loses the only goat f**king child molester to ever serve on the Supreme Court in David Souter’s retirement”

      Yes we have Erick Erickson judging Donald Trump and censoring Mr. Trump, when Presidential Candidate Donald Trump has issued a statement saying HE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF ANYTHING BUT BLOOD COMING OUT OF MEGYN KELLY’S NOSE AND EYES….as in a Carrie movie scene.”

      WHOA! Two-faced much, Erickson?

      There’s this, too:

      “Oh wait, what about Jeb Bush? You remember this quote by Jeb Bush right?

      Immigrants “are more fertile– and they love families!””

      Almost sounds as stupid as “legitimate rape.” What? The rest of us, who aren’t “immigrants” who break laws as an “act of love”, aren’t fertile and don’t love families, Jeb?

      • This is unintentionally (?) funny. From LC:


        Was she an understudy for Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct? Or just an aficionado of her work?

        • That doesn’t look like Megyn. I can’t quite work out who it is. Megyn almost always sits behind a desk,
          Who Is She?

          • Oh OK, itsa Lame Cherry thing.
            Talking about people I stopped trusting and reading, that would be Lame Cherry near the top of the list.
            He spews out so much “sensitive information” that unless he is actually working for obama, by now he would probably have been breitbart’d of Fyddy’d.
            I think his job is to tell conspiracy minded people everything they want to be told but to accompany it with enough crazy stuff (like for example all his soft images) to cast doubt. I believe it’s called hiding truith in plain sight. So I now think he is part of the enemy he pretends to rail against.

            There’s always some Tokyo Rose about. I think LC is the latest one.

          • Click here for a larger image. It’s Megyn, but when she had shorter hair, was younger, and before she got her own show. UNLESS LC is putting us on and that’s photoshopped. I don’t know. I just assumed it was a true photo.

  11. To echo Trump’s campaign.
    If you mess with a Bull you will get the Horns. 😆

  12. I said several weeks ago that Fox had tacked Left.
    I read somewhere that Rupert o nly ordered fair and balanced to expand his market share to include conservatives but now has decided to go Left again.
    Seems pretty obvious now.
    Guess thay think we have nowhere else to go.
    That’s not true anymore.
    I only watch news TV if they tell me something I didn’t already know. That’s why I never watch the bbc.
    That’s why I will turn down Fox – a lot.
    I liked Megyn Kelly but lately she has started thinking that She’s The Story, and no she is not.
    I started watching other programs before the Trump bust-up and will pretty much continue to do that now.
    Hey! Celebrity Big Brother starts soon!
    I’ll learn as much from that as I will from the new fox news, and it is more entertaining.

    • Whoa. She needs to ANSWER for promoting that lying meme about islamic “civilization”. Dhimmitude? They did NOT invent algebra, that’s just another canard. Nor did they make the medical discoveries they claim. They stole them from the Greeks. What a load of BS. Ask the Spanish Catholics what they thought of the caliphate–the INVASION AND CONQUEST of their own civilization. Wow. I can’t believe she said this in September of 2001, AFTER the murder of 3000 of our people. PRAISING the damned caliphate. Earth to Carly: There’s a reason it was called an EMPIRE. Empires are NOT free. Nor are they tolerant.

  13. COP Supporters CHEER them ON! …. I LOVE THE COPS!
    nothing 2 DO BUT cause CRAP … who will STOP THIS GAME?

    • This is infuriating. Oathkeepers showed up to protect reporters (Infowars, e.g.) and the progressives and the county police chief wonder if it’s “legal” for them to be there! The chief’s going to try to find some way to SUPPRESS their Constitutional rights while at the same time, I assume, giving the “peaceful protestors” room to “express themselves” and exercise their First Amendment rights. They’re not peaceful. They’re not protesting. They’re disrupting people’s lives, shutting down government buildings and public highways, shooting at police–but they are outraged when “white” Oathkeepers march, too, to PROTECT reporters and, probably, businesses, too. BTW, a broadcast journalist WAS mugged, beaten, and robbed the first night of the “peaceful protests”. Unfortunately for him, he apparently didn’t bring an Oathkeeper bodyguard. Maybe he will next time. I was watching Sunday night’s mayhem, when the shots rang out, when the “black teen” was shot. Earlier, they showed some black men with rifles standing in front of the meat market (I believe it was) that had been looted, iirc, THREE TIMES last year. The newscasters who were narrating the events kept going back to the men who were standing guard outside the store, with rifles. Finally one of them asked, “ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO THAT?” I couldn’t believe my ears. ARE THEY ALLOWED TO? AS IF she never heard of the CONSTITUTION. It’s PRIVATE PROPERTY. NOBODY is “allowed” to go onto it unless the owner wants them to and NOBODY is surely “allowed” to LOOT AND ROB AND VANDALIZE the store, AGAIN. The man certainly has every right to PROTECT HIS OWN PROPERTY, whether himself, via volunteers, or via paid guards. WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH THESE REPORTERS? What does she expect? That the cops will go onto private property (without a warrant) and demand that the men protecting the property leave, so as not to upset the violent, non-peaceful thugs who are called “protestors” but who are not protesting but looting? Now because black non-protestors get upset when they see white men protecting reporters who otherwise would get mugged by non-protestors, to protect the hurt and offended feelings, the police want to violate the Constitutional rights of whites? IF blacks are offended that whites have RIGHTS, then does that mean that it’s okay for the government to remove rights from whites, just so blacks don’t get “offended” by the sight of whites exercising their rights? This is INSANE. The cops DELIBERATELY STOOD DOWN in the past and, apparently, Sunday, when the beauty shop was again vandalized and looted. So what do they expect? If THEY’RE not going to do their jobs protecting reporters, white citizens, and businesses, then SOMEBODY IS GOING TO DO IT.


    Fox attack didn’t work:

    Donald Trump’s dominance in the polls shows no sign of abating despite the controversy that has raged for days over his comments about Fox News moderator Megyn Kelly and her treatment of him during the first GOP debate last week.

    According to a poll by Morning Consult conducted Aug. 7 to 9 of 2,029 registered voters, Trump leads his nearest rival by nearly 3-1 with 32 percent support. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush in the No. 2 spot has just 11 percent support.

    Every other GOP contender clocks in with less than 10 percent support:

    Retired pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson is in third place at 9 percent;
    Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio are tied for fourth place with 6 percent;
    Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is at 4 percent, a decrease from 7 percent the previous week.

    What’s more, the controversy appears to have boosted Trump, giving him a 7-point increase in support since the previous survey.

    It’s not like I’m invested in Trump. I don’t want to see anyone ineligible get the nomination (Cruz, Rubio, Jindal) but beyond that I don’t care. The Trump phenomenon is interesting because it shows how far people realize and condemn all the elite talking head poobahs who constantly tell us what to think. I unsubscribed from Erick Erickson’s

    I’ll be more interested if I begin to think that obama didn’t really mean he intends to serve a “third term”. By the way, how’s them Walmarts doin’?
    Except when he’s lyin’ (in other words when he’s making promises) obama usually telegraphs what he intends to do (when he’s making threats).

  15. OK,
    I have given this a lot of thought, at least 90 seconds!
    The thing is we elected this guy who is sort of black or maybe black or maybe arab, well like who knows, he’s a mystery!
    So the next minority that we need to elect is a woman, although I don’t think women are in the minority but hey, it’s a close call, an on that predicate, the democrats feel it is their turn to elect the Hillary, and dam the email torpedos!

    But wait:

    How about Carly Fiorina and Sarah Palin?
    Advantages: They are both women!
    Carly once was CEO of a mega giant USA electronics company (Hewlitt-Packard) and Sarah Palin is really cool so they’d be shoe-ins for President and Vice-President. They can sort out who is VP.

    At least we wouldn’t have to listen to the demorats telling us that our candidate wasn’t eligible because he wasn’t a Natural Born American!
    (In case we nominated Cruz or Rubio or Jindall).

    Now you might think I am being subtly tongue-in-cheek, but I am not and I’d vote for them in a minute!

    • I’ll take Sarah. After what Zen found about Carly praising the Ottoman Empire, I’ll pass on her unless she has a huge and credible excuse for that BS.

      • Ditto’s. I really like her stances today, but she knows what is necessary and she’s doing it; putting Hillary in the correct perspective….and so far she’s been on task for doing that. If she does nothing else, that’s fine with me.

        • Yeah. You never know these days what kind of Manchurian you’re getting. Taqiyya for Americans. Has it ever been different? Obviously, she says NOW what we want to hear. I think they call that “triangulating”. 🙂 Once in office, they do what they want. We’ll have to go with our gut feeling and not put too much stock in what ANY of them say or promise because they’re full of it. I’d prefer, however, somebody who’s been CONSISTENTLY AND OBVIOUSLY CONSERVATIVE for as long as memory serves. I do like how Carly puts Hillary under the microscope and calls her out. She’ll be very useful because she’ll be too hard for them to Palinize. I read somewhere yesterday that it will be hard for the Hillary supporters to not pay attention to Carly because (and this is SO TRUE) she looks, acts, and speaks just like the kind of women they “do lunch” with. I’m not sure that’s a compliment to any woman, though.

        • ~Guest · 3 hours ago
          Carly Fiorina
          Fiorina was involved with the Clinton Initiative and got money from the Clinton Foundation and funds through Hillary when at the State Dept. for a Women’s Initiative supposedly. So her attacks on Hillary are either a cover-up for her relationship with them – or a set-up to make it look like she totally dislikes them.


  16. More on the management changes at Fox News:

    Rupert Murdoch handed over 21st Century Fox, the conglomerate behind Fox News, to sons James and Lachlan July 1, 2015. James is now CEO and Lachlan executive co-chairman. Last year Murdoch elevated his sons to prominent positions, James to co-COO and Lachlan to non-executive co-chairman, but the turnover of the conglomerate came sooner than expected.

    For 15 years, Roger Ailes has enjoyed near total autonomy as head of Fox News, but Ailes’ sovereign rule ended abruptly with the move. A 21st Century Fox spokesperson told The Hollywood Reporter from now on, “Roger will report to Lachlan and James.”

    “For Ailes, it was a stinging smack-down and effectively a demotion.”

    To say that Ailes and Murdoch’s son James have a strained relationship would be a bit of an understatement. James, whose wife once worked for the Clinton Foundation, is a rabid environmentalist who led the campaign to make News Corp a carbon-neutral company. Conversely, Ailes is a “fierce climate-change denier,” who allegedly has called James a “f@#$%!g dope” and “Fredo.”

    Ailes was not notified of the management change in advance. Apparently, Murdoch has been convinced that Fox News will continue do well without Ailes at the helm. Last year Ailes took a leave of absence due to an illness, and the network’s ratings didn’t slide.

    Now that control of Fox News has been given to Murdoch’s sons Ailes’ fair and balanced reporting and conservative punditry will soon fall by the wayside.

    words by Hunter/Garcia:
    Like a steam locomotive
    rolling down the track
    He’s gone
    He’s gone
    and nothing’s gonna bring him back
    He’s gone
    (One of the best rock bands of all time)
    Fox News is gone folks

    • Good morning Dave!
      You could be right ,Fox News gone……but……and it may take a while for people to realize that they’re movin south, left of fair and balanced balogne……..but…when they finally do, it seems ratings would fall off; and compare that with the big rating they got with the debates, they should notice the falling away of listeners. I don’t know this to be a fact at all. I’m just speculating. They’ve never really been “fair and balanced”. It’s a ruse . they fill the air with enough hyperbolic conservative arguments and shout down liberal mouthpieces now and then, so it can draw attention to conservatives, but that’s about it. They actually help keep the conserves and libs arguing…..that’s what keeps them in business. There are only a small number of real Journalists anymore, now most of them are bought and paid for activists in need of a job who call themselves journalists.

  17. O’ …LOOK-ie here!! “GEORGE SOROS” FUNDS.. Ferguson

    P R O T E S T S !!! & HOPES 2 SPUR (UN) CIVIL …. ACTIONS!!!

    • He has been funding it all along. That, and the Occupy a-holes. Isn’t it convenient that every August this stuff is incited, when Barry’s on vacation?

  18. Update on the immigration suit and Judge Hanen’s latest order. Bottom line: He’ll still hold a hearing August 19 but Jeh Johnson doesn’t have to show up.

  19. From CTH: The “innocent” young teen who wasn’t armed with a stolen gun, according to his family.

    Whoomp (There it is!)!!!

    Trigger warning: F-word, among others, probably.

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