Why Red Flag Laws Won’t Work

After the elementary school shooting in Uvalde, TX, an allegedly “bipartisan” group of legislators are trying to come up with new gun laws to, in their minds, stop such incidents. Among their ideas: “red flag laws” at the state and federal levels.

The House of Representatives plans to vote on a bill that would authorize federal courts to issue “red flag” orders prohibiting people from possessing firearms when they are deemed a threat to themselves or others. Meanwhile, legislation encouraging states to pass and enforce their own red flag laws has emerged as a possible point of compromise between Senate Democrats who favor new gun restrictions and Senate Republicans who are skeptical of that approach.

The article quoted above mentions several problems with such laws:

  • Predicting who’s likely to commit violence isn’t easy. (Minority Report, anyone?)
  • Innocent people will be falsely accused and lose their constitutional rights (probably without due process).
  • Threats and other indications that someone may commit gun violence currently are either not noticed, are ignored, or are too often passed off as jokes.
  • “[P]olicies targeting individuals based on risk factors would result in an extremely high rate of false positives.”
  • Too many people as authorized reporters may lead to “abuse” of the system and the violation of a person’s constitutional rights.
  • Some laws don’t include punishment for those who abuse the system via deliberately false reports.

Who gets to be the “decider?” Who determines who loses their constitutional rights? Based upon what criteria?

We already have unelected bureaucrats and some elected officials declaring that entire groups of citizens (as many as half the population!) are “potential domestic terrorists.”

We have biased woke technicians working at social media companies unilaterally censoring users’ free speech, based upon their own perceptions of what constitutes fact, “misinformation,” or “disinformation.”

One notable reason that red flag laws aren’t going to work in today’s woke world, which is not mentioned in the above cited article:

As soon as red flag laws go into effect, DIE (diversity, inclusion, equity) activists will begin their usual mantra that “persons of color” or other “oppressed” groups are “disproportionately” and unfairly impacted by them.

This has already begun in California, where the state legislature just passed a bill to end mandatory reporting of students who threaten violence. Their reasoning?

Decades of research show the long-term harm to young people of even minimal contact with the juvenile or criminal legal systems. Once students make contact with law enforcement, they are less likely to graduate high school and more likely to wind up in jail or prison. These harms fall disproportionately on students from marginalized groups: Black, Indigenous, and Latinx students, as well as students with disabilities, are disproportionately referred to law enforcement, cited, and arrested.

SB 1273 (Bradford) empowers educators, protects students, and restores educator discretion by:

  • Eliminating state mandates for school notification of law enforcement of many types of incidents, thereby empowering schools to adopt non-punitive, supportive, trauma-informed and health-based approaches to school related behaviors.

  • Increasing educator discretion in determining when to notify law enforcement about a student’s school related behaviors.

  • Eliminating prosecution of school staff who fail to report incidents of alleged assaults or physical threats against school employees.

  • Eliminating the criminal penalty for students for the “willful disturbance” of public schools and public school meetings.

So you see, yet again, there will be two systems of “justice.” One for “whites” and another for those from “marginalized groups.”

Tucker Carlson provided interesting commentary on the incident in Uvalde, with regard to how it’s being politicized deliberately in order to allow some to effect a “power grab.”

Since red flag laws won’t be the ticket, what might be?

Try locking the doors!

But for an unlocked door, 21 people in Uvalde, TX, would still be alive. (According to school safety protocols, all doors were supposed to be locked. It remains to be seen why the door the shooter entered was not.)

Gun control supporters argue that schools can’t be turned into armed camps or militarized zones.

Do they want to save childrens’ lives or not?

Think about it. Do these same individuals lock the doors to their own homes? If so, why do they choose to live in a “hardened zone?”  Why don’t they leave their own doors unlocked?

Will all the politicians currently promoting a ban on “assault rifles” (that aren’t) and 9mm pistols do away with their own security guards and all safety precautions, like fences, walls, and locked doors? Will their guards be disarmed? If not, why not?

Safety for me but not for thee.

That seems to be their mantra.

If someone takes a poll among parents of school-aged children and the children themselves, how do you think most would answer this question?

Do you support mandatory locked doors at all schools and an armed guard on the premises at all times?

What child or parent would say no?

Consider this:

(hat tip to a commenter at this link.)

Only a tiny percentage of the guns used in crimes were purchased legally by the criminal. Virtually none of the prisoners passed a background check.

How many of these criminals, no matter the source of the weapon they used, were already legally forbidden to own guns due to past felonies?

How about we enforce all the gun laws we currently have on the books?

What part of

shall not be infringed

don’t these people get?

We’re constantly bombarded with the phrase “weapons of war” these days, as if 22-caliber hunting rifles fit that description.

We’re bombarded by wanna-be totalitarians asking over and over again, “Who needs weapons of war?”

If only these people could go back in time to ask George Washington the answer to their question.

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233 responses to “Why Red Flag Laws Won’t Work

  1. CARE LESS WHAT THEY DO .. 2 CHILDREN .. it gives them a RISE!!!
    LAUGH @ what they are ALLOWED 2 GET AWAY WITH!!! 24/7 YEP!!!

    Drag queens are coming for the Kids& …>>>> you’re paying for it !!!

    Since 2018, the group previously known as Drag Queen Story Hour NYC, before Changing its Name early this year has received a total of $207,000 in TaxPayer ca$h.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/06/drag_queens_are_coming_for_the_kidsand_youre_paying_for_it.html

    • You gotta ask yourself how the hell any of this is possible, not to mention legal? It’s perversion. It’s grooming. It’s pornographic. It’s child abuse. It’s criminal. Are we at the point now that ONLY “privileged” people are subject to the LAW?

    • Just look at that photo. There are men accused of child sexual abuse for TOUCHING and HOLDING children like that. In some cases, just touching them far less than those THINGS are touching them. Are we supposed to give them a pass because it can’t be sexual because they’re “women” and thus mother figures? I’m disgusted. Keep in mind that normal, regular kindergarten teachers are no longer allowed, don’t dare, to hug or touch little children, their own students, in any circumstance. And yet look: Perverts allowed to hold and snuggle children they don’t even know. WHERE are the parents? People these days look askance at their own male relatives who pick up and hug nieces and nephews, for example. WTF? This is insane.

      In some cases, PRIEST who were accused of child sexual abuse did NO MORE than what those pervs are doing.

  2. SOON .. ROCK BOTTOM’..>> OUT! ha’ 81 MILLION ? O’ SURE
    ’81 Million Vote Getter’ Biden Poll Collapse Continues: New Low of 33 Percent Approval with Only 21 Percent Approval by Independents in New Survey
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/81-million-vote-getter-biden-poll-collapse-continues-new-low-33-percent-approval-21-percent-approval-independents-new-survey/

    • And he’ll probably “win” again. If he’s not living then, they’ll just prop his mummy up in the Oval Office and use CGI to “speak” Obama’s speeches for him.

  3. WHY WHY WHY ???
    Kash Patel Calls Out FBI Over Jan. 6: “What Were They Doing with Plainclothes Informants?” (VIDEO)

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/kash-patel-calls-fbi-jan-6-plainclothes-informants-video/

    * gman The Devil’s Quartet • edited
    This kind of Behavior has been going on 4 years. Trump exposed all
    of them & that is the reason for the heavy-handed backlash.
    As the truth was being exposed during the Trump Administration they decided to quash the truth through infiltration & intimidation.

    * The great shakeing •
    Pelosi & WRAY orchestrated the whole thing, Pelosi is Hiding behind
    … Her political position, WRAY behind the Badge .

    • Yep. I just reposted that on the new thread because it’s apt to the post. We don’t have a non-partisan government anymore. The FBI/DOJ/DHS are the Gestapo and Stasi, all rolled into one. Like Russia, this is, in effect, a one party state.

  4. Report: Hunter Biden Paid Mother of Child, Stripper from His Law Firm

    While Joe Biden has claimed at least 7 times to have NO knowledge of his family’s business dealings, the president has played a role in the Biden family business at least 12 times over 6 years.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/06/11/report-hunter-biden-paid-mother-of-child-stripper-from-law-firm/

    * Ironworker bob •
    81 million people Wanted joe & his family, now they Have them…

    81 million >>>>> VOTES NOT >>>> Voters.

    Ballots precisely, Most of them illegal

    “Here’s the deal, man…..no lie.”

    “I’m not joking” said the Joker. … C’mon, man! Get a shotgun.

    • Did you happen to see the article at TGP saying that Sean Hannity suggested to President Trump that he PARDON Hunter Biden to help “heal” the nation? WTF? What’s wrong with Hannity or is he some kind of troll? Heal the nation by letting a disgusting scumbag evade laws and actually, arguably, betray this nation by colluding with foreign nations to enrich himself and his family against the national security of this country? WHY would or should Trump have pardoned him and WTF is Hannity thinking?

  5. yep … it’s FREE … ya’ > get what U PAY 4 ??? a shift in the WIND!
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/google-drag-queen-storytime-pride-austin

  6. EVIL EVIL EVIL PELOSI is THE EVIL HAG so HOW’S PAUL doing?NP
    Bill O’Reilly’s epic rant about ‘evil’ Nancy Pelosi explains why Congress needs term limits
    THE GLENN BECK PROGRAM
    ‘She’s an evil woman. A woman who is consumed with power, who has no respect for others with whom she disagrees’
    https://www.theblaze.com/shows/the-glenn-beck-program/nancy-pelosi-stalled-scotus-security?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1

  7. If you’re Wondering who the Republicans are who have signed onto the agreement, they are . . .

    John Cornyn – Texas
    Thom Tillis – North Carolina
    Roy Blunt – Missouri
    Richard Burr – North Carolina
    Bill Cassidy – Louisiana
    Suan Collins – Maine
    Lindsey Graham – South Carolina
    Rob Portman – Ohio
    Mitt Romney – Utah
    Pat Toomey – Pennsylvania

    Democrats Joe Manchen and Kyrsten Sinema are reportedly on board. Republicans Blunt, Portman, Toomey and Burr are retiring.

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/breaking-senate-reaches-gun-control-compromise-deal-with-10-gopers-signing-on/

  8. a WIN WIN Story of BRAVERY .. DID WHAT MUST BE DONE .. HELPED !
    https://news.yahoo.com/ukraines-teen-drone-hero-happy-093757236.html

    • It’s so disgusting that it’s beyond belief. I saw still photo but not her “in action,” miming masturbation. I wonder what parents who brought their kids or even maybe just bought their tweens tickets for this thought about it? Of course, being as it’s a “pride” performance, they ought to have been warned. Where does “wokeness” end?

    • These guys interrupted a disgusting Drag Queen storytime and now THEY’RE being investigated for a hate crime! https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/this-is-how-you-shut-down-drag-queen-story-hour-for-kids/

      If not that, then probably they’d be reported as potential domestic terrorists, being perhaps concerned fathers.

      Oh, wait! NBC says they’re “proud boys.” At this point, they should be proud. I’m proud of them.

      WTF is wrong with WOMEN who allow these disgusting caricatures of femininity to act out in the male equivalent of blackface? What do we call this outrage? This stereotyping and ridiculing of REAL FEMALES? Womanface? Femaleface? It’s the SAME EFFING THING and it’s AS OFFENSIVE TO REAL WOMEN AS BLACKFACE IS TO BLACK PEOPLE. WHEN WILL THEY GET THAT?

      Why would anyone bring their child, male or female (but especially female), to this disgusting event?

      The NBC story says the event was meant for “children and families.” What the eff kind of SICK “families” are these? Watch at the reaction of the sponsor/librarian when the protester shows her a video of the “performer” Panda Dulce saying that children can suck her ****. She does look a bit shocked, huh? ALMOST AS IF SHE HADN’T A CLUE WHAT THIS PERSON WAS BEFORE “CELEBRATING PRIDE MONTH” BY INVITING IT TO READ TO LITTLE CHILDREN.

    • In the same disgusting vein: https://www.insider.com/postmates-bottom-friendly-menu-for-better-sex-during-pride-2022-6

      Businesses promoting perversion. Where will this all end? (No pun intended, actually.)

  9. I .. FEEL ZERO PRIDE when I SEE or HEAR U NEVER – EVER
    Gets her groove going ..when LASHING ” OUT ” !!!? U Joker

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/kamala-harris-dc-pride-children

    • Finally. Doesn’t look like mugshots I’ve seen before, though. Nice that they waited 4 hours to test his blood alcohol level and it was still too high even then!

    • Oh, my goodness. Nobody should be threatening the police but one wonders if, like Biden et al, they confuse complaints about potential violations of due process, civil rights, and the Constitution with “threats.” After all, just objecting with REASONABLE facts and arguments to the Biden policies is now considered “violence” and “potential domestic terrorism.”

      Consider what’s “disinformation” to these people. https://muunyayo.wordpress.com/2022/06/13/real-potential-domestic-terrorism/

      Anything that opposes Biden’s “Green New Deal” which is a RAW deal and it’s not even green. Even the head of GM had to ADMIT the truth that 95% of the electric that charges their new “electric” car batteries is generated by BURNING COAL and the other 5% comes from BURNING NATURAL GAS. How is that “green?”

    • Gateway Pundit has a list of all these guys who were arrested, much to my surprise. Now everybody can go and see who they are and exactly how many of them are either FBI provocateurs, FBI “special agents”, FBI informants, or unsuspecting dupes. I know already that at least one of them was recently “caught” vandalizing a BLM-supporting mural on the Washington University campus in St. Louis, so the FBI would have learned about him and maybe some of his friends, making them easy to recruit/dupe. These rocket scientists helpfully, and very conveniently, allegedly left a calling card on the vandalized mural indicating the damage was done by the “patriot front.” Convenient, isn’t it, especially for the narrative? The interesting thing is that, like antifa, they immediately got bail and released. Will anything actually come of these arrests OR will they eventually, down the line, get a slap on the wrist or just dropped charges (as happens with BLM and antifa)? Narrative finished. Mileage made of it. No reason to actually go ahead with the charges? In any case, obviously there IS NO CASE. But the LAWFARE will work, at least in the meantime. Any judge who knows the Constitution will recognize prior restraint. Where’s the “crime?” I’d, for one, like to see the evidence. Not defending these jerks but we all have our RIGHTS and no matter how stupid or offensive these guys may be, they still have their rights as they must have if ANY of us are to have rights. Which among the faces belong to FBI provocateurs or people like the FBI-associates who duped the other idiots into plotting to allegedly kidnap Whitmer? Check out the names. They almost sound like, you know, names a novelist would make up for “white supremacists.” I’m just sayin’.

      https://www.soundhealthandlastingwealth.com/people/mitchell-wagner-arrested-over-criminal-conspiracy/

      “Wagner is the son of Ward-4 [Chesterfield, MO] city council candidate Tamarah Wagner had been charged with felony property damage. His father is Dr. Frederick Wagner. …”

      Now that’s interesting because it’s not been reported in local newspaper stories, unlike from that site I linked.

      Hey, note: ADL mentioned in this story. https://www.yahoo.com/news/names-released-31-members-patriot-152905631.html

  10. >>>> F B I … GUYS ???
    Senator Ted Cruz Confronts FBI Official Point Blank About
    …. the Feds’ Role in January 6

    https://beckernews.com/senator-ted-cruz-confronts-fbi-official-point-blank-about-the-feds-role-in-january-6-45376/

  11. LAUGH TILL U CRY..WATCH WHAT IS COMMING ..SICK SHOWS

    WATCH: Pride Parade Clips Show Shocking & Bizarre Moments – with Children in Attendance …TOTAL BS CRAP SEXING the YOUTH! …
    WTP …> USA ..> CAN’T BE THAT FOOLISH ? Or does THE ADULTS
    ENJOY THIS ALSO ??? I PONDER this ALWAYS!!!

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/06/14/watch-pride-parade-clips-show-shocking-and-bizarre-moments-with-children-in-attendance/

  12. SUPER .. FREAK NANCY PELOSII! KISS AZZ MUCH SREW LOOSE

    WATCH: Pelosi gets freaky celebrating U.S. liberty with crossdressing stars
    ‘Your freedom of expression of yourselves in drag is what America is all about’

    https://www.wnd.com/2022/06/watch-pelosi-gets-freaky-celebrating-u-s-liberty-crossdressing-stars/

    • !!!!!

      Wasn’t this just another bogus allegation that was part of the Russia hoax? What a surprise that he’s “found dead.” Poor guy. I wonder if he was planning to spill his guts, got scared, disappeared, and then got “found” before he got “found dead.”

      • No evidence of foul play. Do young men just simply up and die? (Well, these days, they do–if they got the “jab,” but somehow I doubt that was high on this guy’s to do list.) Interesting info: He was born in UKRAINE and was adopted.

        https://theunitedstatesofalec.org/me-and-my-whistleblower-the-new-york-times/

        If the “tranche” of documents held anything they could use against Trump, they would have used it by now, don’t you think? It’s more innuendo with no substance.

        “On the third anniversary of his father’s death — Jan. 26, 2017 — $1,000 arrived in his PayPal account.

        The money was from Glenn R. Simpson,
        a former journalist who ran a research company called Fusion GPS. Weeks earlier, it had rocketed to notoriety as the source of the so-called Steele Dossier — a report by a former intelligence agent containing salacious allegations against Mr. Trump. Mr. Simpson was searching for more dirt and, Mr. Broeksmit told me, he agreed to pay $10,000 for the Deutsche materials. (Mr. Simpson declined to be interviewed.)

        Mr. Simpson asked Mr. Broeksmit to start searching for specific topics. “Any Russia stuff at all,” he wrote on an encrypted chat program. “Let’s get you here asap.”

        They met two days later in the U.S. Virgin Islands and began combing for material on Mr. Trump, Russia and Robert Mercer, a top Trump donor. …”

        GLENN SIMPSON.FUSION GPS. Jan. 2017. Russian hoax and Mueller. Manhattan and NY authorities colluding.

        Now Trump is soon to have to testify in that corrupt woman’s (the one who called REAL POTUS a “m-f”) witch hunt that intends to indict him (will be overturned, dismissed, or acquitted, of course–it’s just LAWFARE) for allegedly “inflating” the value of his real estate to, I presume, in her mind, avoid taxes … or something.

        Doesn’t matter what. All they need is something that sounds “plausible” to indict him and cause him anguish and pain until it’s dismissed, with no consequences for her, but the consequence they hope for being that Trump can’t run again.

        My guess it was time for this guy to “exit stage left” before the case really gets rolling. Maybe this guy knew too much about their plots.

        “Mr. Schiff’s investigators badly wanted the secret Deutsche files. Mr. Broeksmit tried to extract money from them — he pushed to be hired as a consultant to the committee — but that was a nonstarter. …”

        Oh, right. A “nonstarter.” So NOBODY paid him off? Is that what he KNEW? That somebody DID pay him?

  13. Connected?

    https://news.yahoo.com/judge-rules-us-investors-now-183451092.html

    “US shareholders can now sue Deutsche Bank over alleged compliance failures, a judge ruled Monday.

    Investors allege the bank ignored “obvious red flags” while vetting ultra-wealthy clients.

    The firm’s links to Russian oligarchs and Jeffrey Epstein hurt its share price, the complaint alleges.

    Deutsche Bank shareholders in the US can now sue the firm over alleged compliance failures related to high-risk clients such as Russian oligarchs and Jeffrey Epstein, a New York judge ruled Monday, as first reported by Reuters.

    The investors allege that Deutsche Bank ignored “obvious red flags” when vetting ultra-rich individuals for its wealth management business. After these client relationships became public, it damaged the bank’s reputation and share price, the group claims. …”

    EPSTEIN. And more:

    “Deutsche Bank’s clients also included “founders of terrorist organizations, people associated with Mexican drug cartels, and people suspected of financing terrorist organizations,” investors allege. …”

    Do these sound more like scumbags associated with the REAL POTUS OR with DemonCRATS?

  14. “A U.S. judge on Monday said shareholders can sue Deutsche Bank AG for allegedly hiding shortfalls in its internal controls while doing business with risky, ultra-rich clients like the sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and Russian oligarchs.

    U.S. District Judge Jed Rakoff in Manhattan said shareholders may try to prove in their proposed class action that the German bank was aware its know-your-customer and anti-money laundering controls were ineffective, and that its share price fell as the truth became known.

    In a 30-page decision, Rakoff said the complaint described specific processes that Deutsche Bank knowingly undermined through an “unwritten but pervasive practice” of exempting rich, politically connected clients from normal internal scrutiny. …

    The defendants said shareholders failed to show any intent to defraud, and that the bank’s statements about its compliance processes were “aspirational” or “puffery.” …” https://www.theepochtimes.com/deutsche-bank-investors-can-sue-in-us-over-epstein-russian-oligarch-ties_4532167.html

    So, money laundering. You gotta wonder if the current occupant and his wayward son may have done business there.

    • That would make DemoncRAT heads explode. I’m all for it!

      The pursuers become the pursued. The persecutors are brought to justice by the persecuted. I’m loving it.

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