Presidential, and Former Presidential, Behavior

What is appropriate behavior for a president? That topic is much in the news lately. Consider these excerpts from a most-excellent article by Victor Davis Hanson, on the topic of President Trump’s tweets: [emphasis added to quotes]

Start with the given that there are now regrettably few accepted norms of presidential behavior. Trump’s occasional uncouthness is a symptom, not a catalyst, of the times. Bill Clinton redefined presidential behavior when he had sexual relations with a 22-year-old, unpaid intern (so much for power imbalances as sexual harassment) in the presidential bathroom off the Oval Office, lied about his recklessness to his family and the country, smeared Monica Lewinsky, and then wheeled out to the Rose Garden feminist cabinet officers like Madeline Albright and Donna Shalala to deny and defend his unsavory predatory behavior. After that sordid episode, the apologetic Left lost all credibility as an arbiter of presidential norms. …

Out of office, Bush professionally kept quiet and busy as an accomplished artist, as Obama moved the country leftward. For that, Bush was ridiculed by the Left as reduced to a bewildered, paint-by-numbers dabbler.

The emeritus Obama, by contrast, frolics on billionaires’ yachts docked off tropical islands with the mega-rich whom he attacks in Wall Street chats for $10,000 a minute—and takes a day off from his wind surfing to weigh in on Trump’s unfitness. For all that, he remains a progressive icon.

From that brief Bush hiatus, it was a short slide back down to GloZell and Obama’s adoration in the White House of Kendrick Lamar’s “To Pimp a Butterfly” (read some of the “ho’s”, “n—as”, and racist lyrics of that album and cf. the celebration over the corpse of a judge on the cover).

Okay. But what about former presidential behavior?

We here know only too well the hypocrisy of the left, the mainstream media, and the man formerly known as president–Barack Hussein Obama–who’s given not only to “frolics” on yachts and long vacations in mansions lent by billionaires but who also seems to believe that he’s still president.

Obama scurries around the globe, either shadowing the very real President Trump or hurriedly preceding him, speaking to world leaders as if he still counts among them, behaving like a virtual Petyr Baelish, scheming and interfering in, if not actively undermining, Trump’s foreign policy.

As the New York Times should agree, that is at least arguably a violation of the law.

The Logan Act reads:

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

Consider what South Korean media said about Obama’s recent meeting with their president, only days after President Trump met President Moon Jae-in:

President Moon Jae-in renewed his resolve to pursue sanctions and dialogue to tackle North Korea’s nuclear program during a meeting with former US President Barack Obama on Monday, saying now is the “last chance” for the regime to return to the negotiating table.

During the 40-minute talk, Moon shared the results of his recent summit with his incumbent US counterpart Donald Trump, asking for Obama’s advice on ways to advance the relationship.

It’s quite interesting that the writer gave Obama the title President (capital P) but did not give the actual president that courtesy, oddly referring to President Trump as Obama’s “incumbent US counterpart.”

The story goes on to recount that Obama had just come from the Asian Leadership Conference (is he an Asian leader?) where Obama roundly criticized the actual U.S. President for daring to suggest that Obama had been weak on North Korea and also had the outrageous gall to suggest that there’s currently a

temporary absence of American leadership,

all because President Trump (thank goodness) withdrew from the Paris “climate change” agreement. One might safely conclude that a global climate agreement and the nature of North Korea’s nuclear threat constitute “disputes” or “controversies.”

It’s interesting that former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn was accused by the mainstream media and the Democrats of potentially violating the Logan Act because he obliquely and only allegedly discussed with the Russian ambassador the sanctions that Obama had placed on Russia right before President Trump was inaugurated.

This “fact”–if it is fact–is known only because Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador were apparently recorded by the Obama NSA, someone in Obama’s administration apparently (perhaps illegally) unmasked Flynn’s name, and the (potentially distorted) content of his conversations were then illegally leaked to the media, culminating in the witch hunt that caused Flynn’s resignation from the Trump administration.

Flynn was a private citizen at the time that he allegedly discussed U.S. sanctions with the Russian ambassador. That, the media cried, potentially violated the  Logan Act.

Ironic, then, that erstwhile president Obama recently discussed U.S. sanctions on North Korea with the South Korean president, at least arguably interfering with or trying to influence the conduct of the current president’s foreign policy.

What are the odds that Obama had been authorized by Trump to engage the South Korean president at this time of crisis? Questionable, isn’t it?

But, some may say, the South Korean president sought Obama’s advice on how to “advance the relationship” with President Trump. Certainly without doubt there are “disputes” and “controversies” between foreign governments and President Trump based upon false perceptions about Trump that the media propagate throughout the world.

Putting aside the law, is it seemly for Obama to discuss with President Moon Jae-in “the results of his recent summit” with Trump, who will this very week meet again with the South Korean president at the G-20 summit to which, of course, Obama is not invited?

Isn’t it curious that Obama visited Europe around the time of  Trump’s first G-7 meeting and then visited South Korea ahead of Trump’s first G-20 summit, right in the midst of a crisis with North Korea?

Notably silent on the topic of a potential violation of the Logan Act by Obama are the Democrats and the mainstream media, including the New York Times, which was quick to accuse Flynn of that particular felony.

Notably silent on the topic of unseemly behavior by a former president, who promised otherwise, are the Democrats and the mainstream media.

Imagine their outrage had former president George W. Bush preceded or shadowed his successor Obama throughout the world, meeting with foreign leaders before or after they met with Obama!

You’d think that some one among them all would be curious enough to ask whether Trump had given permission to Obama to meet with foreign leaders and give them his own opinions on the Paris climate accord, Trump’s relationship with President Moon Jae-in, and the North Korean missile crisis.

Wouldn’t you like to know the answer to that unasked question?

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117 responses to “Presidential, and Former Presidential, Behavior

  1. very ….. interesting ….much 2 ponder
    http://canon212.com

    • The entire problem of the sexual abuse scandal is, in actuality, a homosexual problem. Until they fix that problem, it will continue.

  2. Course Not. 😡

    • Well, they ignored the best parts of his trip to Poland (speech and the wild cheering), so why not ignore this, too?

  3. The Trump Putin meeting. 😀

    • http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2017/07/they-targeted-don-jr-in-russian-hacking.html

      That one’s very interesting, and relates to what I wrote elsewhere about how they’re now attacking Donald Trump Jr. and trying to tie him to “collusion” or violation of the Logan Act.

      “What the Lame Cherry is about to state is what was really on the DNC server the FBI under Comey refused to obtain, what Hillary Clinton hired the Ukrainian opposition group run by computer security firm Crowdstrike which fabricated evidence to point the finger at Russia, so Hillary Clinton could run against Putin and Russian hacking, but in those files were not just the sham of stealing the primary from Bernie Sanders, but what was in those DNC files was this operation in contracting with GPS Fusion to create the Pissgate files and to set up Donald Trump jr. in a meeting linking him to Vladimir Putin’s interest.

      It all adds up in that strange Comey investigation on that Russian bank “pinging” an unused Trump server, which was posted by Mockingbird to the media to feed this Russian collusion story. This entire series of events was not to elect Donald Trump, but destroy him for Hillary Clinton’s Russian and Ukrainian interests to steal the US Presidency. …”

      That LC can sometimes be so spot on!

      https://www.circa.com/story/2017/07/08/donald-trump-jr-met-with-russian-lawyer-during-election-but-didnt-follow-up

      “The president’s legal team said Saturday they believe the entire meeting may have been part of a larger election-year opposition effort aimed at creating the appearance of improper connections between Trump family members and Russia that also included a now-discredited intelligence dossier produced by a former British intelligence agent named Christopher Steele who worked for a U.S. political firm known as Fusion GPS.

      “We have learned from both our own investigation and public reports that the participants in the meeting misrepresented who they were and who they worked for,” said Mark Corallo, a spokesman for President Trump’s legal team. “Specifically, we have learned that the person who sought the meeting is associated with Fusion GPS, a firm which according to public reports, was retained by Democratic operatives to develop opposition research on the President and which commissioned the phony Steele dossier.

      “These developments raise serious issues as to exactly who authorized and participated in any effort by Russian nationals to influence our election in any manner,” Corallo said. …”

      The “Russian collusion” was a plot to make it APPEAR so, so Hillary could use it later on. I’ve suggested before that it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that Flynn, a DEMOCRAT, may have been planted. Know what I mean?

      • More excellent commentary by LC:

        ” Russian nationals whose economic interests as western intelligence assets would seek to undermine Vladimir Putin at home for the CIA’s coup, where for the cartel these interests, including Ukraine Nazi’s would inherit all the Russian power and natural resources. Their horse in the race was either Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton, and the surest way to bring this all about, was to tie this to Donald Trump and Russian meddling in the elections.

        Vladimir Putin is telling the Truth in he did not hack the elections or was involved in any of this. What the above revelations are pointing to is this was MI6 offshore in British Intelligence, being hired via GPS Fusion to distance this, by Clinton and Bush, who are CIA connected, to run an operation using NSA surveillance with MI6 to spy on Donald Trump, in the red flags they were setting off so both FBI Comey and CIA Brennan would run this out of the White House in another election coup against the American People. …”

        Flynn’s in? Actually, LC thinks not. LC thinks Flynn had to go because he would have discovered this sabotage.

  4. Mike Zullo Provides Update on Arpaio Trial, …..
    Obama Birth Certificate Investigation
    By Sharon Rondeau on Saturday, July 8, 2017

    NEW INFORMATION TO BE RELEASED IN COMING WEEKS

    YES YES YES ….BRING IT ON! …. BLOW WTP’s MINDS!

    • facebkwallflower

      We have been here, been teased too many times before and with sadness I find myself not even caring about Zullo and Sheriff A. anymore. Numb.

    • WHAT “investigation?” We’ve been waiting for far too long for this earth-shattering information. Where is it? Why not release the full results of their investigation to date, if any?

      I find it totally amusing that Rachel Maddow SUDDENLY discovers the merits of misaligned text on documents and metadata out of sync with what she expects. Would that she and her ilk had spent one second of their time considering the SAME ISSUES with regard to the OBAMA FORGED BIRTH CERTIFICATE, which they accepted at face value without question and still accept to this day. I would challenge Madcow to apply the SAME STANDARDS to the fake Obama birth certificate that she applied to the fake NSA document she received and which she thought was forged to troll her into reporting it as accurate. Suddenly she cares about what’s accurate and what’s not.

      That said, it’s also interesting that she doesn’t think along the same lines with regard to the fake birth certificate. She suspected that the fake NSA document, “proving” Trump collusion with Russia, was designed to fool the media and troll them into making fake news reports to discredit the media. Why didn’t she suspect the SAME THING with regard to the fake birth certificate, even though the trolling was to HELP OBAMA with fake news instead of discrediting the media for reporting fake news? In either situation, the political players would have used the media for political ends. She’s outraged somebody (and that somebody could very well have been a DEMONCRAT trying to false flag pro-Trump people, not the media. Let’s see the document, Madcow! We only have her word that it exists, don’t we?) anyway, she pretends to be outraged that somebody tried to trick her with a fake document, a la Dan Rather, but she has no outrage whatsoever about the FACT that the media was duped by Obama’s fake document (which is also nowhere to be seen in reality).

  5. ~ makeminefreedom •
    This guy is parroting exactly what Obama said about President Trump. That he was spreading aggressive nationalism. President Trump isn’t the threat. Those who are trying change America are. Our country has a history and a culture that makes us who we are & we have a right to defend it whether these socialists like it or not.

    ~ alinsky’s rules that DO NOT work on our President, Donald J. Trump:

    5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

    8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

    11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through & become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

    13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

    So our President just rolls along & uses number 12 against them:

    12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never
    let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

    And will never falter to:

    3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety & uncertainty.

    Our President has gone outside of their expertise & the loony left has broken one of their own rules:

    7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.

    Instead of old news. . .they are fake news!

    • This is so true. While reading a mainstream newspaper this morning, especially the stories about Trump in Europe, it occurred to me that it reads AS IF it’s written by the press of an enemy nation. They write AS IF they’re writing for a nation that is NOT the USA. As if they work for Pravda or a Red Chinese newspaper, and not for the USA. They align themselves with OUR ENEMIES. They put the welfare of THIS NATION way down the list and the welfare of just about any other nation, if not the entire globe, FIRST.

  6. ~ Josh
    The Paris accord was an economic agreement not a climate agreement. Basically, the US pays money and the rest of the world promises to use it for “climate” activities. The G20 can shove it.. Thank U Mr. President.

    ~ frances
    Why Isn’t the Fake News Reporting how a >>>>Democrat mayor — ?
    DeBlasio– can Skip over the graduation of 524 New police recruits & barely noticed the public assassination of a New York police officer last week to GO …. to Germany to help the anarchist protest-anything & everything — ??????
    BILL DeBLASIO IS A DISGRACE TO AMERICA & EVERY THING WEST STANDS FOR.

    ~ SG Man
    All other leaders ……wore a G20 pin President Trump wore a US Flag.
    Says it ALL! ….. Thank U President Trump!

  7. facebkwallflower

    Is Barry going Michael Jackson on us with his vitiligo? (Hint: look at wrist area and some fingertips)

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