Will ICER Ice You?

Army Reserve team earns bronze in ice sculpting

ICE–Definition, verb (slang):  To kill or murder.

ICER–Definition, noun (slang): One who ices, in other words, one who murders.

Given the above definitions, would it surprise you to learn that the acronym chosen for a not-for-profit quasi-death-panel organization is ICER?

A sick joke?

The Institute for Clinical and Economic Research (ICER)–funded by a social justice foundation that aims for “transformational change” in the USA–regularly reports their analyses

of how … [pharmaceutical] drugs work (comparative effectiveness), and the value the treatments represent to patients and the health care system (cost-effectiveness and the potential budget impact). [emphasis added to all quotes]

The group is hosting an “event” to develop “value frameworks” that will, in essence, determine whether or not your life or the life of a loved one has enough remaining value to society to be worth trying to save. Jonathan Wilcox points out the “looming” threat:

If you haven’t heard of a “value framework” before, you’re not alone. They’re complicated mathematical formulas that dictate how much medicine a patient should receive in terms of cost. After a patient crosses a certain financial threshold, the framework determines that further treatment is financially unwarranted – and therefore shouldn’t be prescribed. …

Here’s how they work in practice – and why they should frighten all of you. In this report, ICER estimates that every year of a sick patients’ life is worth as little as 3/5 of a year for a normal person. Once you reach a certain point in this analysis, the framework determines that you should be cut off from further treatment.

It won’t matter what your doctors says or whether there’s a drug that could help you – if the formula says it’s too expensive, you’re done. …

If and when these value frameworks get implemented in health-insurance plans, they will likely lead to de facto price controls on medicines and treatments.

That’s why health insurers are funding ICER’s work – its frameworks could benefit their bottom line. The group also has the tacit support of federal policymakers. And Medicare, which in practice dictates how the rest of the health-insurance industry operates, has already expressed interest in ICER’s work.

… ICER’s value framework is the first move in a campaign that could fundamentally transform how American health-care looks and works. If they succeed, the patients who need help the most will be the first to suffer.

Your life comes down to a mathematical formula.

Is it yet another sick joke that ICER can value a sick person’s life at only three-fifths that of a healthy person? Remember this from history?

The Three-Fifths Compromise, is found in Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution, which reads:

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.

To the pre-abolition U.S. government, a slave was worth only three-fifths the value of a free person for the purposes of taxation and representation.

Is ICER’s three-fifths valuation of a gravely ill person mere coincidence? Or is it just more of the same? Sick, progressive, politically correct, reparation-minded snark.

To redistribute wealth, the government needs to gather wealth somehow. Do they plan to do it on the backs of the gravely ill?

Are the sick to be the new less-than-humans?

Already ICER philosophy is practiced by doctors. Have you noticed that unless your insurance will pay for a treatment or drug, your doctor doesn’t even bother mentioning the possibility to you?

What you don’t know, won’t hurt you. Or will it?

There’s more about ICER at this link. ICER is headed by a physician with ties to a similar health care rationing group in the UK, known by the sick-joke-of-an-acronym NICE (National Institute for Health Care Excellence).

Nice. But not quite nice for those who die in the UK because their lives aren’t worth saving.

ICER’s value frameworks sound suspiciously like the scheme that Ezekiel Emanuel and Cass Sunstein proposed–the Complete Lives System (aka, we decide when your life is “complete”), which I wrote about here.

The billionaire leaders of the foundation that helps fund ICER coincidentally also supported Ezekiel Emanuel’s brother Rahm. More information about the personal and political donations of these billionaires here.

No doubt, the elite who invent such schemes for the proles will be exempt from their own schemes. Nothing but the best for the elite, as I wrote about here, Obama being a prime example.

Saving taxpayer dollars is important only if the recipient of the benefit is a worthless and easily replaceable peon (or a modern-day sickly slave who is worth, say, three-fifths of an elite. In Ezekiel Emanuel’s estimation, however, merely being old (>75, e.g.) qualifies one for the lesser, three-fifths status. Gammas, Deltas, Epsilons, you know.)

Consider all of the above and then consider how Wikipedia and the media persist in claiming that Sarah Palin’s “death panels” have been “debunked.” From Wikipedia:

Sarah Palin, former Republican Governor of Alaska, coined the term when she charged that proposed legislation would create a “death panel” of bureaucrats who would decide whether Americans—such as her elderly parents or children with Down syndrome—were “worthy of medical care“. Palin’s claim, however, was widely debunked and has been referred to as the “death panel myth“, as nothing in any proposed legislation would have led to individuals being judged to see if they were worthy of health care.

Debunked? Hardly, although perhaps it’s not technically spelled out in the legislation. They’re far too clever for that. That’s what executive branch policies, regulations, and guidelines are for!

Obama and his progressive fundamental transformers are expert at doing end runs around legislation in order to achieve their desired ends. Behind the scenes, they community organize to make the players an offer they can’t refuse.

Maybe it’s not spelled out in the law, but health insurers are backed into a corner by Obamacare in such a way that in order to stay in business profitably they have no choice but to find ways to ration–and the best way to achieve that, quietly, behind the scenes, is to simply persuade doctors to not even mention promising but expensive new drugs or treatments and to keep researchers from inventing them in the first place. How? Create an “expert” panel, get them to report that a drug or treatment isn’t worth it, and then refuse to pay for it. More from Wikipedia:

Palin’s spokesperson pointed to Section 1233 of bill HR 3200 which would have paid physicians for providing voluntary counseling to Medicare patients about living wills, advance directives, and end-of-life care options. Palin’s claim was reported as false and criticized by the press, fact-checkers, academics, physicians, Democrats, and some Republicans.

Her claim was false?!!! Consider this recent news:

The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services quietly tucked the change allowing for payment for end-of-life counseling into a massive package of regulations last summer, with billing permissible as of Jan. 1 [2016].

Quiet, now. Stealth is required. We don’t want to make the three-fifths proles restless. It wasn’t in Obamacare because your representatives and the public didn’t want it in there. Nevertheless, you’re getting it, anyway, because Obama gets what Obama wants, no matter what the legislation says. He just does it through “regulations.”

How “voluntary” will these compensated “conversations” truly be? How long before they change from a suggested, voluntary conversation (you can opt in) to a mandatory opt out? In other words, refuse the suggestion for the “conversation” about your end-of-life”care” and then …

Default position: Pull plug.

No living will or advance directive? We write it for you.

You’re going into hospice with only palliative care (if you’re lucky).

If you’re over 65, look forward to your next “wellness visit“, when your doctor will probably work in some discussion of your upcoming demise and then slap another charge onto your bill.  Watch for those new billing codes on the explanation of “benefits”. Make sure you get our money’s worth!

And whatever you do: Don’t get iced.


105 responses to “Will ICER Ice You?

  1. From CTH:

    Of course he’s “other” because even muslim terrorists know they don’t want to be white.

    Did you see the unreported news? DHS was WARNED by ISIS that they would target that part of Florida days ago! http://shoebat.com/2016/06/09/major-muslim-terrorists-makes-this-declaration-to-all-americans-we-are-coming-after-you-we-will-attack-florida-and-slaughter-americans-there/

  2. Gotta love it. Somebody hacked the highway sign.

  3. I noticed this yesterday, how all the media now criticize Trump for using a teleprompter, something which nearly EVERY politician uses, but most especially Barry, who cannot speak coherently without one. Puppet cannot speak unless words put in his mouth by someone with more brains (but no more ethics or common sense) than Barry. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/wow-obama/

    Is there a DemoncRAT who doesn’t use a teleprompter, including HilLIARy? They’re out of their freaking biased minds. WHY is it so terrible for Trump to use one? Are they so afraid that henceforth they won’t be able to despicably bait him into saying something off the cuff that they can distort to use against him?

  4. https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/06/12/orlando-night-club-attack-by-known-wolf-terrorist-previously-investigated-by-fbi/

    Horrible muslim imam teaches that gays should be killed and that muslims ought to kill them out of “compassion”. Guess he believes that will save their souls? There is a concept in Catholicism of baptism by blood or absolution by blood (but it doesn’t include killing the people. It means that someone who is murdered or martyred [for their faith] is absolved of his/her sins, if s/he didn’t have a chance to confess and be absolved before dying.) But what is this “compassion” that the imam refers to?

    Any way you look at it, the guy sounds as if he’s advocating exactly the kind of violence we saw today and yet, he’s still walking around free.

    btw, how about the FBI interviewing the shooter twice about his ties to terrorism and threats to co-workers, but then “closing” the cases and allowing him to SOMEHOW pass background checks that allowed him to carry weapons and (get this!) work security at FEDERAL BUILDINGS!! Way to go. Political correctness kills. Again. Remember the huge (or is that yuge?) number of muslims who are in the TSA?

    Suddenly the gay community seems to notice that muslims hate homosexuals. MSNBC is bound and determined to cast this as a case of simple hatred against homosexuals. Not muslim/jihadist/islamic terrorism. MSNBC gave us the nuggets that Mateen was a wife beater and hated homosexuals. Was “homophobic”. Well, muslim, right? Check and check.

    Another imam just recently told Pakistanis (I think it was) that it’s okay to beat your wife, so long as it’s not a severe beating. Therefore, what self-respecting muslim does NOT beat his wife? After all, women are probably lower on the status scale than even male homosexuals, in the muslim scheme of things.

    Think that’s islamophobic? Read the Koran and the writings of these muslim “scholars”. It’s sharia, which most muslims support and which even half of U.S. muslims support to replace our Constitution. IF one is muslim, it’s a given that the man is misogynistic, abuses his wife, and hates homosexuals. Not to mention “infidels”.

    But back to MSNBC, they’re hyping this homophobia angle to the exclusion of the muslim terrorism angle or the fact that it’s part and parcel of being muslim–hatred of homosexuals and wife abuse, that is. (Note the difference between Christian distaste for the SIN of homosexual BEHAVIOR. They LOVE the sinner; hate the sin. They do NOT hate the sinner. They have compassion for them.) In any case, already gay activists are out, reframing this as a case of “hatred” that’s all around us so how long before they start to attack non-muslim Americans as the haters and/or blame conservatives, Christians, and Trump, somehow, some way? Wait for it.

    OMG. Just read that DHS itself CONTRACTED WITH THE COMPANY THAT THE SHOOTER WORKED FOR!!! https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/12/orlando-jihadist-worked-for-security-firm-contracted-by-dhs-known-entity-to-fbi-ex-wife-says-violent/ Oh, you gotta love this: The company he worked for also “moved illegal aliens” around the country, at the behest of DHS. I heard some pundit on FOX News say that DHS spends most of its time nowadays, not protecting the homeland or searching out potential islamic terrorists, but ADMINISTERING OBAMA’S AMNESTY PROGRAM (thus the contract with Mateen’s employer?) and working on global warming/climate change, although I don’t know what he meant by that. In what way does DHS deal with climate change? Obama has corrupted EVERYTHING. Now DHS is his private “security force” that’s bigger than the military.

    JOHN BRENNAN!!! http://www.silvanuspublishing.com/immigration/immigration-2/

    Read carefully and see that the illegal aliens being transported from the border TO Phoenix BY MATEEN’S EMPLOYER are the OTM’s (iow, OTHER THAN MEXICANS. iow, could be muslims because that’s the route in and they look enough like Mexicans to pass.) After taking them to Phoenix, they TURN THEM LOOSE.

  5. Trump’s statement here: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/12/donald-trump-releases-statement-regarding-orlando-terror-attack/

    Note that the shooter’s father supported the Taliban and apparently thinks he’s president of Afghanistan. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/12/orlando-shooting-suspects-father-hosted-a-political-tv-show-and-even-tried-to-run-for-the-afghan-presidency/?tid=pm_pop_b

    btw, just an aside on my part. Look at the photos in the above link. Notice that chubby, ever-present, hat-wearing, flag-shirted, gay guy supposedly was there in the carnage, said blood was everywhere, said he helped at least two people by putting tourniquets on them or somehow stopping their wounds from bleeding and yet he’s clean as a whistle.

    Had Been Investigated by FBI…
    TRUMP: ‘When will this stop? When will we get tough, smart & vigilant’…

  7. Obama Blames H A T E ……not islam ….. or jihad …… for Orlando
    nightclub massacre ….O’ REALLY USURPER boy??? ha


  8. Reminder: Islam Does Not Approve of the Gay Lifestyle @MM

    Here we are only 7 days into Ramadan 2016 and already we’ve had an Islamic terrorist attack on American soil? That’s certainly what it looks like. How do we know? Police officials did not tell us that terrorism was ruled out. I take that to mean it’s been ruled in; what do you think?

    Let’s see: December 2, 2015 San Bernardino Christmas party
    Inlamic terrorist Attack by Syed Rizwan Farook & Tashfeen Malik.

    June 11, 2016, Orlando; gay nightclub Attacker has apparent ties to
    Islamic terrorism. Nope, I don’t see any connection to Islamic terrorism either. …… JUST CAN’T B ???? SAYS OBAMA ????? ha

    So let’s all vote for Hillary & OPEN BORDERS!
    Because Trump is a racist ???…. And a homophobe. F>THEM ALL<!

  9. O’s ….F A S T ….. brain??? vs. slow MOUTH!!!! ha …. joke/joke!


    • a bit more …of daum…. born 1970 ^^^^
      People who weren’t there like to say that my mother died at home surrounded by loving family. This is technically true, though it was just
      my brother & me & he was looking at Facebook & I was reading a profile
      of Hillary Clinton in the December 2009 issue of Vogue.

      Combining the piercing insight of Joan Didion with humor reminiscent of Nora Ephron’s, Daum dissects our culture’s most dangerous illusions, blind spots, & sentimentalities while retaining her own joy and compassion. Through it all, she dramatizes the search for an authentic self in a world where achieving an identity is never simple & never complete.

    • It occurred to me, too, what she said about those people dying in a state of mortal sin. It’s always possible that they made an act of contrition before death, but not really likely, as she said. I’m not going to judge. I believe in a merciful God. May their souls rest in peace.

    • “ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack in a statement released by its Amaq news agency, saying the onslaught “was carried out by an Islamic State fighter,” Reuters reported. Three US officials said no evidence linking the massacre to any terror group had yet been uncovered.

      The FBI said Mateen had twice been investigated for possible terror ties but that the results were inconclusive. …”


      They call him “a homophobic ISIS sympathizer.” Isn’t that redundant? It’s a given. ISIS = homophobic. Goes with the territory.

      Obama calls it “especially heartbreaking.” Gee, did he say that about the little children allegedly killed at Sandy Hook? What makes THIS murder “especially heartbreaking?”

  10. “We were in downtown Miami, Bayside, people were playing music. And
    HE saw 2 men kissing each other IN Front of his Wife & Kid & he got very angry,” he told the network.

    “They were kissing each other & touching each other, and he said, ‘Look at that. In front of my son they are doing that.’ And then we were in the men’s bathroom, & men were kissing each other.” ….. ^^^^

    • Yep. Or he had anger management issues. Or was bi-polar. Or just mental. So says his father, ex-wife (of 4 months, 7 years ago, met online), and HER new fiance, who’s worried we’ll use this as a reason to attack Afghanistan “again.” Oh, yeah. And he wasn’t particularly religious, the ex says, except that he has attended mosque faithfully 3 times a week for the past 7 years. So … Whatever. Just so long as we don’t blame islamic terrorism.

  11. ~ apnHal
    am I missing something? Orlando? Obama?

    Chicago Stats
    Weeks total 6/5 to 6/11
    Shot & Killed 9
    Shot & Wounded 72
    Total Shot 81
    Monthly Total 6/1 to 6/11
    Shot & Killed 21
    Shot & Wounded 120
    Total Shot 141
    Year to Date
    Shot & Killed 252
    Shot & Wounded 1418
    Total Shot 1670
    Source http://heyjackass.com/

  12. When someone comes across the videos of all the ambulances and medical personnel rushing to the Pulse venue. will you let me know?

    I am not especially interested in gore, however, I am interested in evidence.

    • Know what you mean, Papoose. I’m still on the fence. Don’t know what, exactly, happened. I saw some odd things.

      For example, the chubby, ever-present guy who for a long time was unnamed but who was on every video and in nearly every early shot of the aftermath. What’s up with him? Undercover cop or something else? CA, if you know what I mean?

      There was a lot of video on one of the networks last night (I think NBC, which could make it suspicious) of the cops and others treating many people on the sidewalk. This might be found online. There was also audio of cops talking to each other, which did make it seem more “real”, if you get my drift.

      As usual, I try keep an open mind. It reminded me a lot of SH, where bodies were just left inside for almost a day, and then taken out in the dark of night (if they were). Families allegedly left wondering what happened. WHO determined and WHEN that those left inside were beyond help?

      Others have commented about the woman who was said to be texting her son while he was in the bathroom. Some said she seemed to be coached from the sidelines. I had noticed her strange, disinterested affect, but people do react differently. (Remembering that case in Australia where the dingo took the baby but nobody believed the mother because of her strange behavior.) In any case, there was more today about her son and none of it rang true. It’s inconceivable to me.

      They published the texts. Apparently he told his mom he was in a bathroom, hiding, about 2:00 a.m., with others. Were in there about the time this all began. Texts went back and forth. He asked her to call police, which she did and she told him so. More than a half hour later, he texts again and says that the “terror” (meant terrorist) is now in the bathroom with them. Again, I realize that people react differently but I cannot conceive of multiple people being in a bathroom and calmly waiting for the man to enter, without at least trying to set up an ambush.

      That gun does not fire like a machine gun. It cannot shoot 700 rounds in a minute or shoot 102 people in 9 seconds (as one idiot said. Might have been Grayson.) So imagine you’re in a nightclub with 350 people and one guy comes in with a gun and starts shooting. Do you just wait your turn? Wait, also, while he reloads? Or, when you realize you may be next, do you fight back, throw things (chairs, glasses, drinks, bottles, plates, purses, manbags, whatever), hoping others mob him, also, to save your own life and maybe other lives, too?

      Do you, over a half hour, just wait your turn? I’m sorry but it’s hard for me to accept that one “lone” guy can do this and NOBODY stops him. Not even the security guard. Now, of course, it was a “gun free zone”, so nobody could shoot him, which would have been nice. Right?

      Many lives saved if only one of the bouncers (there were bouncers) had been armed. WTF is going on? I’m sorry, but there are too many shades of SH and even Boston.

      The guy had connections to BLM. His father was a MUJAHADEEN, so how the EFF did he get into the U.S.? Or was that back when we were friends with Al Qaeda, thanks to the Clintons? Well, let’s put Hill and her BFF Huma (whose mom is MB) into power. See the video James posted on the Flag Day post.

      But if FF, then WHAT was the motive in shooting 49 Hispanic gays? A globalist thing? ISIS? Typical hatred of gays by muslims? Attempt to fire up the gay community for gun control, seeing as how they were so successful in getting gay marriage?

      Why are they focusing on gays as the target instead of Hispanics? Or males? Most killed were gay, male, and Hispanic. Just a target of opportunity given it’s crowded and a gun-free zone? Was the perp a self-hating gay himself? He is now said to have been there before.

      We’ll get clues within the next week.

      • I definitely believe something happened. Just not the way its being reported. Plus, all the subsequent reports are just nonsensical and incredible. So many, many contradictions with respect to “motive.” An array of things to appeal to every base. I am thinking the whole thing is a distraction to keep us focused whilst the selight of hand is perpetrating something elsewhere.

        I do believe something happened at Sandy Hook, but not what was reported. To this day, we have no idea what happened at the Lanza home, if it even existed, and no proof whatsoever as to whether or not an Adam even existed. If there was a dead body at the scene named Adam Lanza, aka as the killer/shooter how do we know that his dead body wasn’t dropped there after he and his mother were killed in his home? There is no proof and every scintilla of evidence has been destroyed and incinerated.

        Stay Strong. Oh, yeah, what about that killer? Has he been tried yet? Another hot potato. pfft.

    • GLOBAL!!! A UK company. THIRD LARGEST PRIVATE EMPLOYER AND LARGEST EU and AFRICAN employer. WTF??? More employees than WalMart? And our DHS contracts with them? Don’t they believe in hiring AMERICAN? They do security for major sporting events around the world. Gee. I bet they know Mitt pretty well. Gee, again. Client or associate of CrisisCast. Hmmm. I think I’d recognize a few of their employees by now. Seen their faces enough recently. Especially Teflon Fat-man who somehow doesn’t get a drop of blood on him.

      • I saw a few familiar faces myself. See something Say something. Yeah, so they can get the skinny on you.

        Its absurd.

  13. REPORT: Arrest expected soon of alleged accomplice in Orlando
    mass shooting…

    Killer Omar visited club Dozen times before massacre…

    Used Gay dating app…


  14. WHAT? Will it TAKE ….before YOU KNOW someone on A LIST?

    TRUMP ….has the G U T S … 2 STOP THIS! LET’S ROLL…..


  15. so many stories so little time LEFT ~ REALLY .. I PONDER ON!

  16. About Time: Trump Calls For Obama’s Resignation After Orlando
    Jihadi Attack; Obama Omits Radical Islam

    An Islamic Jihadist, & ……. REGistered Democrat, that Swore allegiance to ISIS, slaughtered 50+ clubgoers at an Orlando homosexual club. Leading presidential candidate Donald Trump called on Obama to call it what it is or resign from office.
    Trump via Twitter:

    Horrific incident in FL. Praying for all the victims & their families.
    When will this stop? When will we get tough, … smart & vigilant?

    Read more at http://www.birtherreport.com/2016/06/about-time-trump-calls-for-obamas.html#gR5y3jTLT28MhOL4.99

  17. Video –
    He also confirms there was a THIRD perpetrator, who intentionally HELD THE EXIT DOOR SHUT so people inside the club COULD NOT ESCAPE.

    BREAKING: Orlando Terrorist Worked For G4S, Company Hired By Obama To Transport Illegal Immigrants Inside US

    Read more at http://www.birtherreport.com/2016/06/about-time-trump-calls-for-obamas.html#XUpJA2qrY7iFSW6F.99

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