BSoBS: An IRS Blue Screen of BS

BSoD - CopyA Blue Screen of Death (or Doom; aka BSoD) or, in the case of the IRS, a Blue Screen of BS (BSoBS).

The IRS and Lois Lerner blame “dated technology” for the computer crash that they unbelievably, even laughably, claim was responsible for the loss of Lerner’s email from 2009 through the middle of 2011, the crucial period of time during which any conspiracy to target Tea Party groups would have been hatched and carried out. Targeting began in 2010. [emphasis added to quotes]

“Frankly, these are the critical years of the targeting of conservative groups that could explain who knew what when, and what, if any, coordination there was between agencies,” said Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.) in a statement. “Instead, because of this loss of documents, we are conveniently left to believe that Lois Lerner acted alone.”

Recently, Rep. Darrell Issa subpoenaed 28 years of communication records related to Lois Lerner’s career with the federal government. Lerner has worked for the DOJ, the FEC, and the IRS.

Because the excuse proffered is that the crash happened because of outdated technology, it behooves us to ask some questions about just how old her computer and its operating system were.

What version of Windows was Lerner running on her computer? Windows 2000 (released in 1999); XP (2001); Windows Server 2003 (Win2K3, 2003); Windows Server 2003 R2 (2005); Vista (2005); Windows Server 2008 (2008); or Windows 7 (2009)? It couldn’t have been Windows 8 (2012), could it?

Or was her laptop so old that it was still running Windows 95, 98, or ME? It’s kind of important to know.

Was this laptop Lerner’s personal equipment or did the taxpayers supply it to her? If the latter, then where’s the audit trail for the equipment, from purchase to “death” and recycling?

Now her lawyer, William Taylor III, claims that poor Lois came to work one day in mid-2011, only to discover a “blue screen” on her computer, indicating the fatal problem. While this is entirely possible, was this particular “blue screen” the event that resulted in the loss of any email?

We all know by now how carefully some people in or connected to the Obama administration parse sentences and lie by omission, misdirection, and/or non sequitur.

One of the representatives on the House committee pointed out how the IRS isn’t particularly forthcoming–if the representatives don’t ask exactly the “right” questions, then the IRS doesn’t volunteer a thing. That’s not cooperation in anybody’s book.

My point is, could the “blue screen” that Lois allegedly saw one day be the symptom of the alleged crash that lost the email, or is the lawyer throwing this “blue screen” out there like so much chum? Anybody gonna bite?

Did Lerner experience a blue screen that had nothing whatsoever to do with the loss of critical email? Is it tangential? Co-occurring but not pertinent? A smoke screen? Just a BSoBS (aka, a blue screen of bullshit)?

Lerner’s lawyer further claimed that she called the IRS IT people about the blue screen and they tried to recover her hard drive, although nothing in the contemporaneous email that the IRS did miraculously and very quickly provide (to the Democrat-run Senate) indicates the loss of any email from her hard drive, only the loss of some documents that she valued, perhaps all being personal documents, which is how Lerner refers to them. From what source did Leonard Oursler pull these email messages dating back to July 19, 2011, if the backup tapes were overwritten and if Lerner’s email was all lost? Did the House committee think to subpoena that tape or source?

Names of personnel apprised of the alleged attempt to recover the data: Lillie V. Wilburn (Field Director, Customer Service Support, IRS IT Division); Diane L. Letourneau (Lerner’s executive assistant); and Carl T. Froehlich (who in 2012 was Associate CIO in IT). When will they testify?

Not one of many technicians who actually worked on the drive is named. One email by Wilburn refers to “the technician” as a “he,” who consulted with “several highly skilled technicians including HP experts,” but failed to recover the data. From this we can infer that her laptop was a Hewlett-Packard.

Another Wilburn email refers to the “CI tech” as a “he,” who at the time was on vacation, but who was also unable to recover the data when he returned. The IRS took that “extraordinary” step (per John Koskinen) of enlisting the help of IT forensic examiners in the criminal division. Why?

Alas, it was all to no avail. Or so they want us to believe.

This blue screen of death (BSoD) occurred, allegedly, coincidentally, and very conveniently, about 10 days after Rep. David Camp wrote to the IRS, concerned about 501(c)(4) political activities and donors who seemed to be targeted by the IRS for political reasons.

What type of computer crash was this, exactly? A “hard drive” crash? A “head crash“? A virus? A Trojan? A Worm? A driver error? All of this ought to be documented somewhere; it’s important to know.

Did Lerner and/or the IT techs do a RAM dump prior to trying to fix the alleged BSoD?

By default, Windows will create a memory dump file when a stop error occurs. Depending on the OS version, there may be several formats this can be saved in, ranging from a 64kB “minidump” (introduced in Windows 2000) to a “complete dump” which is effectively a copy of the entire contents of physical memory (RAM). The resulting memory dump file may be debugged later, using a kernel debugger. A debugger is necessary to obtain a stack trace, and may be required to ascertain the true cause of the problem; as the information on-screen is limited and thus possibly misleading, it may hide the true source of the error. By default, Windows XP is configured to save only a 64kB minidump when it encounters a stop error, and to then automatically reboot the computer. Because this process happens very quickly, the blue screen may be seen only for an instant or not at all. Users have sometimes noted this as a random reboot rather than a traditional stop error, and are only aware of an issue after Windows reboots and displays a notification that it has recovered from a serious error. …

Since Lerner saw the blue screen, can we assume she didn’t run Windows XP?

As you see, it’s rather important to know whether there was a memory dump created from her computer. If so, was it backed up somewhere? Printed out? Sent to another computer or even to Microsoft itself? Does Microsoft perhaps have a record of this fatal error?

Because Lerner says she’s technically naive and since she’s demonstrably lax about normal maintenance (like backing up files), might the dump files still exist on her laptop, unbeknownst to her? The laptop could contain evidence of the alleged crash. Did the House committee ever get her laptop? I believe it was subpoenaed.

Was Lerner able to, or were the IT techs able to, document the exact stop error that caused the problem? (See a stop error code above, on the photo at the top of the post.) This would seem to be important to know, too.

Give us that stop error code and let the IT people around the world tell us what’s plausible and what’s not.

There should be documentation that justifies the IT techs’ time and indicates why the hard drive ended up “recycled.” Who authorized taking the “extraordinary step” of calling in the IRS forensic investigators to try to recover Lerner’s personal files? Was it Wilburn? Did she write a letter to accompany the laptop hard drive? Where is it? Was there a work order? Where is it? Isn’t it costly to the taxpayers, and unjustified, to pull criminal forensic investigators off IRS investigations to try to recover Lois Lerner’s personal files? We the People aren’t supposed to ask.

Why didn’t these crack investigators suggest getting the data off the backup tapes or even the servers, all of which would still have contained her email at the time her laptop crashed?

If they did not suggest going to the servers or the backup tapes, then why not?

Could it be because this so-called laptop crash is a smoke screen to explain away why the IRS didn’t “find” the email under subpoena, when the truth may be that they simply don’t want to produce it, for obvious reasons?

Any of her personal files and email wouldn’t be on IRS servers to back up, so is that why no attempt was made to look for them there?

If IT and/or CI tech(s) did suggest recovering from the servers or backup tapes, then why wasn’t it done? Or was it?

Documentation of this BSoD, such as it is, might have been proffered merely as a smoke screen to cover for not providing the crucial email messages that might, just might, prove a Nixonian conspiracy to politicize the IRS.

Here’s what we’re supposed to believe, and all of it, frankly, is unbelievable even for those of us who aren’t IT experts:

1. Lois Lerner did not back up her official email anywhere (not on a thumb drive, an external hard drive, in the “cloud”, on a CD, on a DVD), if we are to believe what the House committee is being told. She was required to do so by law and IRS policy:

The IRS’s own definition of the Federal Records Act makes clear that emails must be saved and documented, according to an instructional page for employees on the IRS website.

“The Federal Records Act applies to email records just as it does to records you create using other media,” according to the IRS. “Emails are records when they are: Created or received in the transaction of agency business; Appropriate for preservation as evidence of the government’s function and activities; or Valuable because of the information they contain.”

“If you create or receive email messages during the course of your daily work, you are responsible for ensuring that you manage them properly,” according to the IRS. “The Treasury Department’s current email policy requires emails and attachments that meet the definition of a federal record be added to the organization’s files by printing them (including the essential transmission data) and filing them with related paper records. If transmission and receipt data are not printed by the email system, annotate the paper copy.”

2. Lerner didn’t print out copies of her email, as required by law. That’s because, we’re to believe, she wasn’t aware of the law or IRS policy, after serving in the government for many, many years. By the way, Lerner herself is a lawyer. What is it that they say? Oh, yeah: “Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

3. Lerner wanted very badly, and so did the IRS IT people, to recover whatever was on her hard disk. We’re told that her official email was “archived” on her laptop and that the “blue screen” crash caused it to be lost forevermore. However, her official email was also on the IRS server(s). Those servers were backed up regularly but, according to Koskinen, the tapes were overwritten every six months (which also violates the records retention law). When Lerner’s computer crashed, the IRS IT people did not, so far as Koskinen knows, try to restore her email and documents from the backup tapes that existed at that time. Those tapes would have contained her email for the prior six months. So at least six months of her email should have been available, and it’s likely that older messages would have been recoverable from folders other than her inbox (e.g., sent or saved message folders, or even trash, if she never emptied it). In addition, email might have been recoverable from the then-current email files and folders of recipients of her messages. Of what use are backup tapes if they’re not used to recover data? We’re to believe that nobody thought of doing it or else, as Koskinen implied, it was just too darned hard to do, so they chose to not follow the law. In addition, knowing of the loss of important official documents and email belonging to Lois Lerner, somebody decided that, rather than save the tapes in case they were ever needed for, say, a Congressional investigation, gosh darn it, they’d just follow their regular procedure and write over them!

4. Six other government employees whose email might shed light on this critical period and the potential for an inter-agency conspiracy also suffered convenient computer crashes. Presumably, contrary to law and policy, they also did not back up their email to any hard drive, thumb drive, CD, DVD, tape, or “cloud”, or print it out. Such a cabal of incompetents!

5. The email supplied to the Senate “documenting” this so-called computer crash came in the form of pages within a PDF. We’re to believe that these pages are accurate representations of contemporaneous email proving that the crash occurred as narrated. (“Stuff just happens!”) Does the House committee realize that PDFs are able to be edited? Any email can be copied into a file and edited. Was this “update” to the Senate in response to a subpoena? In other words, can heads roll if the email turns out to be bogus or misleading (as in, obstruction of Congress)? The House committee should subpoena the source backup tapes and have them examined forensically. What a tangled web they weave.

6. Believe it! It’s merely another coincidence that Sonasoft, the company with whom the IRS did contract to archive email, saw their contract expire right after Lerner’s laptop crashed. Does anyone know (did they ask?) what happened to the email archives Sonasoft had? Or to any hardware used by the IRS that was supplied by Sonasoft?

About a BSoD: It’s easy to obfuscate a subject like laptop crashes because many people are technically naive or simply afraid of technology. I’m no personal computer expert and yet I restored a laptop after a BSoD. The information about how to do it is out there on the Web. You need only know how to search for it, how to read and comprehend it, and how to follow instructions. When the alternative is trashing your computer, what do you have to lose?

A BSoD doesn’t necessarily mean that the hard drive is toast. Sometimes, for example, the problem is in the software program that passes information between the hard drive and the operating system. If the problem is with a software program, like a driver, then obviously other data is still there on the hard drive. For example, if you tear the index or appendix out of a book, then it’s hard to find something, but the “something” is still there in the book.

Sometimes, a virus or a Trojan has deliberately screwed things up so that the operating system can’t find the information that’s still there on the hard drive, or so that the computer won’t boot up. For example, some Trojans move (or remove or corrupt) the software that controls booting up. The computer will act as if it’s toast, but it’s not. If there’s a recovery disk (which surely every government computer IT Dept. requires) then the computer and its data can be restored.

Sometimes, however, the problem is mechanical, such as the thingamabob that moves to and reads the part of the disk where data is stored gets jammed. That doesn’t mean, however, that the data is gone. It just means that the equipment can’t go to the right spot to read it. The hard disk with the data on it is still there. IT people who know what they’re doing can get the information off those disks. In fact, that’s exactly what criminal forensic investigators do.

This scandal is not going away. Attorney Cleta Mitchell has a lawsuit pending against the IRS. She represents “True the Vote”, a group targeted by the IRS. Lois Lerner’s email would obviously become evidence in that case and should have been preserved. The IRS, upon “learning” of the crashed hard drive and lost email, did not notify Ms. Mitchell or the court of the loss of evidence. (Probably because the data lost in this so-called BSoD event was not evidence for any court, being Lerner’s personal files and a smoke screen.)

Similarly, Judicial Watch has a pending lawsuit against the IRS. They also were not apprised of the missing email, nor was the court:

Internal Revenue Service officials will have to explain to a federal judge July 10 why the tax agency didn’t inform the court that Lois Lerner‘s emails had been lost. 

U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia Judge Emmett G. Sullivan quickly granted a motion filed earlier today by attorneys for Judicial Watch seeking a courtroom status conference “as soon as possible to discuss the IRS’s failure to fulfill its duties to this court under the law, as well as other ramifications of this lawsuit.”

In its motion, the non-profit watchdog noted that the IRS publicly acknowledged loss of Lerner emails to and from individuals outside of the agency early in February 2014.

Then on Feb. 26, the tax agency provided its first production of documents in response to a Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed in October 2013.

No mention was made in that production of the lost Lerner emails, even though the original Judicial Watch FOIA lawsuit filed in May 2013 specifically sought them.

Judicial Watch further noted that “although IRS had knowledge of the missing Lois Lerner emails and of the other IRS officials, it materially omitted any mention of the missing records” in an April 30 status update on its document production. …

We need a special prosecutor. That’s obvious, but it’s not going to happen until this current crew is out of the Senate and maybe not even then.


Postcript: When I began writing this post the day Lerner’s lawyer spoke out, I searched the Web to see what more-PC-savvy folks were saying about her little BSoBS. I saw little, but attributed it to the fact that the lawyer mentioned this in a TV interview and wasn’t yet quoted much in print. I looked again just now and found some references to Lerner’s alleged “blue screen of death.” This link has interesting comments, some excerpted below, with emphasis added:

DallasAG 94 said: “… The BSoD is a software issue with the OS… not a hardware failure. It is likely a conflict of memory, in which the OS wrote over something in RAM. What do you do? You reboot, and 99% of the time it is fine. Worst case scenario… your OS has to be restored, but the integrity of the hard drive remains relatively fine. …”

Ich76 said: “I suffered a blue screen of death event last weekend. Still haven’t even replaced the hard drive on that computer. I have accessed my email account from four other computers since then. Everything is there….but y’all already knew that. …”

kb2001 said: “… This is all besides the point. Policy requires copies of every email she sends/receives to be backed up, even paper copies in a lot of cases. There is a crime one way or the other, and everybody knows it. Obstruction or destruction of evidence is far easier for them to deal with than the charges that would come from using the IRS as a political weapon.”

conspiracy ag said: “My work computer wouldn’t boot, just blue screened when I tried to turn it on, corporate … was ready to just wipe it and reinstall windows, and I work for a HUGE company.”

Then dlance responded: “because your [data] is stored on huge SANs in your company’s data center(s). Just like .gov’s stuff is.

That is why this whole thing is such a farce.”

82 responses to “BSoBS: An IRS Blue Screen of BS

  1. Somebody else thinks they’re lying: And this person seems to know more about it than I do, but I think I deduced correctly. I surely know that the blue screen I fixed WAS fixed and the data was ALL still there, even though the computer sure appeared to be DOA. If I can do it, then SURELY the forensic criminal investigating IT experts can!

    This writer explained (a lot more succinctly than I did):
    “So when I hear of a hard drive crashing, I know this: It doesn’t show up as the blue screen of death. Why? Because in order for the blue screen to show at all, the hard drive has to be working.”

    That’s it in a nutshell!

    • “Obviously Mr. Taylor is ignorant of the ways of modern computers and Ms. Lerner, if she told him she faced the blue screen of death and it indicated a hard drive failure, is a liar.

      Ignorance is a tricky thing when it comes to the world of the arcane. What seems to the ignorant a simple, rather universal problem with which all the other ignoramuses can identify actually serves to indict them when they use it as an excuse for wrongdoing. Ms. Lerner, her attorney and the real face of death, IRS Commissioner John Koskinen have effectively admitted they purposely destroyed evidence germane to what will become a criminal investigation perhaps reaching right into Barack Obama’s office. The legal term is “spoliation”, the layman’s term is “stupidity”.”

      Again, he said it a lot more succinctly!

    • Gee, isn’t it interesting. They carried a Gadsden flag and acted like Occupy Wall Street. btw, does Chesa have a brother? Some interesting photos of WU folks in the beginning of the video. Another part tonight. It will cover Ayers and Barry and the Brinks robbery and murders.


    “Ex-Internal Revenue Service (IRS) official Lois Lerner spoke at a 2010 government conference where Lerner’s underling Nikole Flax announced the new IRS program scrutinizing groups applying for tax-exempt status.

    Both Lerner and Flax experienced “computer crashes” that led to the permanent deletion of their emails, according to the IRS, which said it cannot hand over their emails to congressional investigators on two House committees.

    Both Lerner and Flax briefed fellow government bureaucrats on the new targeting at the conference, where Lerner appeared at a workshop called “Will the IRS Come Knocking?” …

    Flax also announced the addition of new Washington-based “tax law specialists” to work on private-letter rulings for groups that would need renewal of their charitable tax-exempt status.

    They basically have to start over,” Flax said about groups coming up on a newly imposed three-year deadline for charitable tax status. “In the interim period, there obviously will be tax issues.”

    The IRS began flagging tea party applications in February 2010, the month of the Washington conference. …

    Flax went on to serve as chief of staff to IRS commissioner Steven T. Miller.

    Flax made 31 visits to the White House between July 12, 2010 and May 8, 2013, according to White House visitor logs. Flax’s visits started in the early days of the IRS targeting program and ended just two days before the IRS scandal broke on May 10, 2013. Flax met twice in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building with Jeanne Lambrew, a top adviser to President Obama who exchanged confidential information on conservative groups with Lerner.”

  3. “A black reverend stiffed by the [Thad] Cochran campaign has exposed an alleged criminal conspiracy by Cochran staffers to commit massive voter fraud ahead of Tuesday’s controversial U.S. Senate Republican runoff election in Mississippi.

    Reverend Stevie Fielder, associate pastor at historic First Union Missionary Baptist Church and former official at Meridian’s redevelopment agency, says he delivered “hundreds or even thousands,” of blacks to the polls after being offered money and being assured by a Cochran campaign operative that Chris McDaniel was a racist. “They [the Cochran campaign] told me to offer blacks fifteen dollars each and to vote for Thad.” …

    Text messages released to Got News and a recorded interview with Reverend Fielder confirmed that Saleem Baird, a staffer with the Cochran campaign and current legislative aide to U.S. Senator Roger Wicker, and Cochran campaign manager, Kirk Sims, were involved in a $15-per-vote cash bribery scheme to target members of the black community.

    “They said they needed black votes,” said the Reverend Fielder on the phone. He says Baird told him to “give the fifteen dollars in each envelope to people as they go in and vote. You know, not right outside of the polling place but he would actually recruit people with the $15 dollars and they would go in and vote.” Fielder said he received thousands of dollars in envelopes from Baird and distributed them accordingly. Fielder also says he went to the campaign office on another occasion to pick up $300 in cash and was among a room full of people who were doing the same thing he was. …”

    WHOOPS. The RINOs, the Republican establishment, ALLEGEDLY become AS CORRUPT with regard to vote fraud as the DemoncRATS. How can this result NOT be overturned now?

    • Is it the truth though?

      • Makes one wonder. 😦

        • It really does, now that you mention it. This is the age of Obama and so dirty tricks will abound and infiltrators will be there. What better than to perhaps plant someone to do such a thing and then (1) get the fraud to work, (2) blame the Republican for the fraud instead of the infiltrator, and (3) disenchant the Republican voters so they stay home and the DemoncRAT wins? Is this Johnson guy on the up and up? Seems he’s turning up on links lately a lot. What do you suspect is going on?

      • How’d you suspect? I’m still trying to figure this one out.

        Cochran’s camp denies it and threatens to sue Johnson and the “Reverend” and it turns out Johnson paid for the story. If anybody can sort this one out, have at it. Somehow Joel Gilbert, who imagines FMD is Barry’s father, is involved, too.

        ““[The interview’s publicity] comes from a blogger who in the last 24 hours has accused a Mississippi public official of being responsible for an individual’s death and had to retract other outlandish accusations regarding another Mississippi elected official,” Russell said. “The author of this article admits he paid his source for the story.”

        In a Breitbart article published Monday, Johnson openly acknowledged and defended the fact that he had paid Fielder, saying, “Why wouldn’t I pay for an awesome story?””

        Who did they say was killed? I’m lost on this one. Can anybody explain why they would want and what good it would do to have pictures of Mrs. Cochran in a nursing home?


    Here’s how you escalate and fight back! Gohmert offers a bill to pay a million buck bounty for the “lost” email and a half a million bucks for information about who destroyed them. Also, a 20% drop in salary for all IRS employees until the email is produced.

  5. Wow!! Dats a lot of Moola!!! 😯

    • I think it is a planted item, just as the Communist ornaments were, set up to get the ‘nutjobs’ undies in a twist. A “Let’s watch the heads explode on this,” and a betting pool on how long it takes for it to go viral.

      • “On Tuesday afternoon, Jarrett responded to our story with a little explanation. As we suggested, she said it was a gag gift:

        Don’t worry friends, it was a gag gift. Us strong women don’t need worship — just an economy for the 21st century. #WomenSucceed

        — Valerie Jarrett (@vj44) July 1, 2014”

        We could send her a “gag gift” of a grammar book. Take out “strong women” and her sentence reads like this:

        “Us don’t need worship.”

        No us don’t! We be fine as we is.

      • I agree WAH. They have been agitators from day one. 😡

  6. Cleta wins one?

    IRS attorneys will be even busier than normal next week, because another federal judge has told them to show up in court July 11 to defend the federal tax agency.

    They will have to explain to U.S. District Court Judge Reggie Walton why the IRS shouldn’t be required to let an outside expert evaluate whether emails on the computer hard drives of former IRS official Lois Lerner and six colleagues really are lost forever, as the agency recently told Congress.

    Responding to a motion filed Monday by True the Vote, a Houston-based conservative nonprofit at the center of IRS targeting during the 2010 and 2012 campaigns, Walton issued an order Tuesday to hear arguments next week.

    The IRS recently told Congress that a mysterious crash of the hard drives last year irretrievably destroyed nearly two years of emails to and from Lerner and the others to and from people in other federal agencies, including the White House.

    But True the Vote wants a digital forensics expert from outside the IRS to assess the evidence.

    “Even if the ill-timed hard drive ‘crash’ was truly an accident, and even if the IRS genuinely believes that the emails are ‘unrecoverable,’ the circumstances of the spoliation at issue cry out for a second opinion,” True the Vote’s attorneys told Walton in the motion filed late Monday.

    It may well prove to be the case that a computer forensics expert could recover evidence that the IRS has been unable to retrieve.

    “At the very least, such an expert could preserve whatever evidence has not already been wiped clean from the IRS’s computers along with whatever is stored on the Individual Defendants’ home computers, cell phones, and other PDAs.” …”

  7. The Legal Birther Record … as I take a bite from a cherry’ .. ouch

  8. Let no one EVER For-Get that in … 2008 AD in the year of our Lord,
    Obama his-self, admitted he was a British subject, & that citizenship “expired”.
    That IS Obama admitting he was a Birther & Illegitimately US-urp-ing
    the White House from the American People. O’ …… ^^^^ from above

  9. Malawiya , (like HAWAII) SUDAN just a tigers throw above KENYA..?
    did we go their also? near Aroma & Kassala … a pondering some …

  10. Recalling someone said just maybe O’s saying “Born in Malawi” ?
    is meant to sound like “Hawaii”.. So I looked up.. Malawiya it’s
    in the SUDAN & it’s ABOVE KENYA…. so if you enlarge the map ^^
    3 or 4 times you will see it … Just writing out-loud! ??? … ??

  11. here’s a map of Malawi & good read at Index # 3 unexpected
    death & $$ … it’s everywhere is it not?

    • Another catastrophe we can lay at the feet of the “progressives” but hey! The “solution” is not to expect married older men to be faithful to their wives, it’s to make sure the government pays for all boys to be vaccinated. So I read today how STDs are soaring. Well, if people are using condoms, as they’re supposed to do to prevent the FATAL disease HIV, then how is this possible?

  12. Scroll through the tweets (hint: have to click the little box for next one to appear) and be amazed. This is O’s supposed loyalists speaking. Just saying. They may be uneducated and they may be hating on da white folk but on some things they are thinking like we be.

  13. Rosemary Woodhouse

    I posted this in the other thread, but it’s certainly a curiosity As I.wrote it’s pro b ably nothing, but can someone enlarge this, please?

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      The still @ approx. 3:05

    • RW, I can’t get the video to play. I get a page of multiple videos. Which one is it you are talking about?

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        That’s odd. Dice can be dicey, but the still at approx 3:05 is …interesting. Would be interested to know if anyone can identify those present. Since these people are so into symbolism, I find it curious that the boy in the “mock” sacrifice is black.

  14. Rose the dark dude with the dreads & Fly Boy hat? will smiths son?

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      Nope. I couldn’t enlarge, so I wanted to see if the faces were visible. Also, because it’s an older photo, and these deranged people.really the.USA,and are exceptionally prone to the use of symbolism,, I.thought it curious they would use a black child. Just a thought. Thanks for the reply, Zen.

  15. ~ ramboike 77p · 5 hours ago ….@ BR
    Re: “…. Because you were BLACK you Got a PASS.” !!!!! YEP!!!!

    It’s a shame that we haven’t learned from the lessons of our American history. It does seem in the case with Obama like we’ve returned to the conditions of Racial Double Standards that the DemoKKKrat Party became so associated with. I do not believe a White person would of gotten a Pass on Hiding his Records. The way Congress, the Courts, the majority of the Media, and Obama’s boot-licking anti-Birther Obots have handled this gives the appearance of Affirmative Action.

  16. LOTS …..2 READ!!! OBAMA….. has something UP his SLEEVE?

  17. This DAD wins the PRIZE….. Elliot’s gone & the DAD is also….
    yep….we need more DAD’S like YOU … MR. ROGERS!!!!

    CDC Activates ‘Emergency Operation Center’…
    Dozens quarantined as diseases spread…
    Protesters Fight Back: ‘Repatriate aliens’…
    Feds Mum on Dispersals After Outrage…
    ‘I Want Explanation Why 3,800 In My Jails Are Here Illegally’…

    ~ DO I LOVE THIS ONE!!!!! ~

    Krauthammer: ‘If Fences Don’t Work, Why Is One Around White House?’

    Smugglers threaten ranchers: ‘Look other way or face consequences’…
    GOP Lawmaker: ‘No problem’ for path to legal status…

    P.S. …..what’s UP with ORLY??? IS SHE OK ????

    • Didn’t we ask Krauthammer’s question before? It’s like the question we can ask libs about guns. If guns are so bad and don’t deter crime, then why do y’all have ARMED guards?


  20. He done this !!! 😡

  21. VIDEO: Coyote smuggles illegals across on jet ski… ~ @ DRUDGE
    Migrants found hiding between pallets in 18-wheeler…
    Ranchers threatened: ‘Look other way or face consequences’…
    Packed Town Hall Sounds Alarm On Invasion…
    Residents vow to block new arrivals…
    Busloads turn back…
    MESS: Children sent to Houston — to be flown elsewhere…
    LIMBAUGH: Obama’s Border Patrol Now Taxpayer-Funded Coyotes!
    Agents Report Increase in ‘Fake Families’…
    Interactive map: Government effort to relocate illegals…
    RON PAUL: Hospitals under siege…
    Quarantine area ‘nothing more than piece of yellow caution tape’…
    DMV Clogged by Applicants for Alien Drivers’ Licenses…
    PERRY: ‘Those Who Have Come Must Be Sent Back’…
    Gov. Jerry Brown 1975: Don’t ‘Dump Vietnamese’ Refugees on California…
    ‘Homeland Security’ gives free border pass to Mexican narcotics informant… ….Y I K E S !!!!

    • Ha, ha! I wondered how that one slipped past them. ALIEN. So what are they? Friends? Natives? Relatives? Villagers (as in, it takes a village)? Unaccompanied children can describe kids playing in a local playground when mom or dad stays at home. How does UC define these interlopers? So there’s my suggestion: UIC – Unaccompanied Interloping Children OR maybe UIIC Unaccompanied Illegally Interloping Children.

  22. Hey NANCY PELOSI…. let the SPARK- lers come live at your
    house O’ HOW DEVINE that would B you are an old sneaky fool

  23. And, yes, I am sick and tired of hearing we cannot impeach the First Caucasian Black President.

  24. Rosemary Woodhouse
    • “The comic strip Maxine puts it much better than I:

      Over a thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel, “Pick up your shovels and mount your asses and camels and I will lead you to the Promised Land.” Nearly 75 years ago, when Welfare was introduced, Roosevelt said, “Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, light up your Camel, this is the Promised Land.” Today, Congress has stolen your shovels, taxed your asses, raised the price of Camels and mortgaged the Promised Land! I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, the economy, wars, lost jobs, savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc…I called a Suicide Hotline. I had to press 1 for English. I was connected to a call center in Pakistan. I told them I was suicidal. They got excited and asked if I could drive a truck…Folks, we’re screwed!”

      Wish I’d said that. Is anyone paying attention?

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