Memorial Day Weekend Open Thread

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In Flanders fields the poppies blow

The larks, still bravely singing, fly.

Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the dead. Short days ago

We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow

Loved, and were loved, and now we lie

In Flanders fields.


Take up our quarrel with the foe:

To you from failing hands we throw

The torch; be yours to hold it high.

If ye break faith with us who die

We shall not sleep, though poppies grow

In Flanders fields.


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This weekend, we remember those who gave their last full measure of devotion so that we might remain free and continue to enjoy the blessings of the greatest Republic the world has ever known.  Honor them. 

May God bless the United States of America.



116 responses to “Memorial Day Weekend Open Thread

  1. Rosemary Woodhouse

    I feel as if these verses were written and sent from another space/time dimension because very few on planet Earth is as eloquent as this. Yo.

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      It’s a good thing I can laugh at myself. I was’nt punning. Really! But I wrote it rather hurriedly.
      Edit: ……very few on planet Earth ARE as eloquent as this. Yo.

      Much better! (wink)

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        See. Even my edits need an edit. Yo.

        • Yep….I do it all the time…. me self…. so this needs NO EDITS!
          BUSH BENGHAZI BUSH….. O’….OMG…. pelosi…. Scandal ~

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            Thanks, Zen!
            Pelosi is insane. Botox in the membrane.

          • I read how a bunch of Dems were summoned to a meeting in the WH, the result, imho, being this meme that it’s Bush’s fault. However, the wait times under Bush were a tiny fraction of what they are under Barry. Something like days to NEARLY A YEAR in some instances. And you know what? Bush’s people didn’t keep two sets of books, did they?

          • I have a vision that it will not be long now, if it’s not already in effect, until the DemoncRATS and Barry’s administration find a way to redistribute people within the U.S. so that they have more “structural” equality and won’t have that pesky Constitution (only 2 senators per STATE) and redistricting working against them. They will probably offer money for DemoncRATS to move to places like North Dakota like in the old days–offer them “homesteading” benefits so they can turn the whole danged country “blue”.

  2. We must never forget the sacrifice. ❤

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      Never forgotten! But to be honest, foxy, as of late I ask myself what their sacrifice was for. Sent to war, as children, to die at the behest of those they believed had the nation’s best interest at heart. Now, one has to wonder…..what best interest? Whose best interest? Why??? Maybe those “dirty, stinking hippies” weren’t so wrong in THIS regard. Why the hell were we in Vietnam? To fight….COMMUNISM…in Asia??!! Hello?!

      While never an existentialist, I have been questioning everything. A bit late to the game and sacrilege in some circles, I know.

  3. WE R…. ARE WE? …. & R “WE WILLING”… 2 SAC-RIF-ICE ?

  4. down with all USURPERS ….

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      Bizarre, isn’t it? Were it Bush….. No double standard here. Nothing to see. Move along….


    CUS HE’S … BLACK…& ARE.. U Alan
    (sucks in tons of air on the air-waves as he rants & rants-nasty u-suck)

    BECAUSE…HE’S BLACK? …& want 2 keep your JOB? I sure ponder
    every time I listen to your SAD SWAN SONG- Uhatehimcushe’sBlack!!!

    • This is two Fox news “slips” in a day. Combs Alenski tactic of “you sound crazy”.ridicule the messenger – nice try, liberal traitor. The cat’s out of the bag and people know the BC is forged.

      Peace. Prov 19:9 @ BR Jeff Prov19_9

    • What are they going to say if/when it turns out he’s not “black”? Racist by proxy on account of we allegedly believe he’s black? Since we don’t know what he is, then how can we be racist?

    • May 24, 2014

      “Attorney Klayman To Alan Colmes On Fox News Radio: Obama Born In Kenya; Even If Born In Hawaii Not Natural Born Citizen”

      “Atty. Larry Klayman said some stuff you usually don’t hear on Fox airwaves. Klayman said we have a pResident with a fraudulent birth certificate who was elected fraudulently and who isn’t even a natural-born Citizen. He explained to Colmes the reason the founders put the “natural-born Citizen” requirement in the U.S. Constitution.”

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        I just pondered Keyes’ silence the other day because
        it’s rumored that Keyes mentioned Obama’s ineligibility during a debate. It’s somewhere on one of these threads. I wondered Keyes is afraid of being Schlafly’d because they both have children who are gay. I further ruminated about what is more important: the future and security of our nation vs. one having a child whose views weren’t aligned with their own,

    • More like because he had a “historical moment” with O in the past before presidential days.

  6. You learn something new everyday.

    Did They fight for this? Is this America?

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      Of course it isn’t. Pap. The real question is FOR HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN LIED TO? It’s obvious to all this did NOT occur under 44, exclusively. It’s been a slow build up.

      Who warned us…Kennedy, speaking of “secret societies”? Eisenhower speaking of “the military-industrial complex”?

      How many generations of Good Americans have been duped into believing in Truth, Justice and The American Way?

      Cynical? Just a bit. 😉

    • That sounds familiar. Yep. This is SUPPOSED to be America, but it’s becoming something even worse that Orwell imagined.

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        Yes, ever cynical, but lately a massive uptick,

        “If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.” – George Orwell

        I am certain to have posted this numerous times: I guess what so disappoints me is how passive their conquest has been. No push back. Where’s the American spirit?

        • Well, maybe I was wrong. Maybe Orwell DID imagine what’s going on today. I wish I knew where the American spirit went. I truly do. They got into the schools, for one thing. Get them young. Warp their minds. Brainwash them. Bread and circuses, too. I’m really scared, RW.

          The past is the future?

          Truly horrific. Frightening. If not, then why would ANYONE bother to bury several “tonnes” of soap?

  7. Rosemary Woodhouse

    I hate to mar a good thread with this garbage, but wanted to share with you a comment I left regarding the UCSB shooting.

    Why would the police have pulled a dead man out of his car and cuffed him? A self inflicted gunshot to the head would have rendered him, clearly, quite ….dead. Also, WTH was up with the sheriff’s introduction? You know it’s got to be California when the intro to the sheriff’s remarks is like an Academy Award acceptance speech.

    I will also add that there were three weapons used: gun, knife, and a BMW. Are they going to lobby against the importation of BMWs now?

    And what the media is completely ignoring: every mass murder has been on psychotropic drugs. I wonder what cocktail this entitled liberal psycho was on. Big Hollywood likes the Pharm Girls and the Pharm Boys.

    • We need knife control. Registered knives OR you have to take your food to an authorized, registered and bonded butcher to have it cut for you because–we can’t trust ordinary people with knives. This is getting to be ridiculous. Is it just me or is it rather odd that a bereaved father cannot wait even 24 hours to blame “politicians” and the NRA? I’m just askin’. I’m sorry for his loss but it’s passing strange to me. If I lived in Santa Barbara, I’d be extremely p-o-ed by how the cops TOTALLY dropped the ball with this guy. Within less than 24 hours, we hear that his guns were legally purchased and registered, even though his parents are totally “anti-gun”. In addition, the cops tell us that he checked out okay as a “kind” and “wonderful human” being. Is that how cops in your neck of the woods speak? I haven’t followed this in depth because of family obligations, but this is what I’ve gleaned so far and it stinks to high heaven. He posted videos BEFORE threatening to harm himself and others BUTT the cops weren’t watching for another one, when he even uploaded it using his real name!!? What kind of cops do they have in that town? What psychiatric drugs was he on? I’d like to know that, too. You just KNOW that he was on something because THEY ALL ARE, so far. They all are. THAT’S the common denominator and THAT’S why those people are dead. IF he MUST find a root cause and blame someone OTHER THAN the perpetrator, then the bereaved need to look to (1) the family, (2) BIG PHARMA, and (3) the cops who COMPLETELY dropped the ball. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that (4) school authorities KNEW about him, too. We now learn that (5) a therapist and social services knew, too. Once again, he EITHER killed himself or was killed by cops so … NOBODY can ask him why and there will be NO TRIAL with discovery. I haven’t read any of the links y’all have posted yet, but I will. Prayers for the families of the murdered.

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        Same questions. No surprise, of course.

        • HI_Don -May. 24, 2014 at 8:41pm

          Obama and Clinton are really torn on this story.

          They don’t know if they should go after the gun, or blame the video.

          But at least we know he won’t claim him as “if I had a son”. …..

          • If Barry did have a son … Eurasian, or something like that.

            • ajd49 …. 5:10 AM PDT
              We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, BUTT’ we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.
              I sure hope the lib states don’t go nuts on this & try to ban knives too. It’s really going to be difficult trying to gut fresh-caught fish with my teeth.

              • Mother’s name is Lichin “Chin” Rodgers. She’s a nurse originally from Malaysia. She lives with her 18-year-old daughter Georgia, sister to the shooter.

                Most Malaysians are Muslim. Most Moroccans are Muslim. I’m just sayin’. The attitude towards women is instructive.

                • Here’s a weird coinkidink: Elliot and his sister Georgia attended El Camino High School–the same one that the Martodihardjo Soetoro who looks like Lolo attended in the ’70s.

                  So I read a story that said that the shooter’s THERAPIST called his mother and told her to check his email, apparently she did, and then she and the father drove around looking for the shooter, but this was only 13 minutes before he began shooting. Why didn’t they call police, or did they? An APB MIGHT have saved lives.

                  Today (26th) the papers report that the cops didn’t watch the videos that the mother was so concerned about. WHY NOT? I’m thinking of all the kids who make perceived “terroristic threats” who have their schools locked down, their apartments searched, and are given everything but a proctological exam. Why was this kid treated differently when lives could have been saved? The videos were on You Tube for weeks. WHY didn’t lots of people report them? Or did they? Again, why weren’t the police, post interview with the shooter, monitoring You Tube for more videos? Between social services and the cops, there’s a massive failure here. Why and how did he get through background checks? One story says the cops had no way of knowing about the guns. Did they try to find out? CA registers guns and we know that feds keep records of purchases. Something seriously wrong here.

    • May 24, 2014

      “In the aftermath of the deadly shooting, critics on the left renewed calls for stronger gun control legislation.

      Documentarian Michael Moore, who made the critically-acclaimed film Bowling for Columbine about the 1999 deadly school shooting in Ohio, released a statement of Facebook Saturday calling what happened in Santa Barbara a ‘part of normal American life.’

      ‘We are a people easily manipulated by fear which causes us to arm ourselves with a quarter BILLION guns in our homes that are often easily accessible to young people, burglars, the mentally ill and anyone who momentarily snaps,’ he wrote.

      The liberal filmmaker went on to say that even though 90 per cent of Americans call for stronger gun laws, the U.S. Congress refuses to heed their call.

      Moore concluded his tirade with an ominous warning: ‘Rest assured this will all happen again very soon.'”
      May 25, 2014

      “Armed Homeowner Fends Off Five Masked Intruders”

      “An Indiana resident armed with a handgun fended off five masked intruders during a home invasion Saturday evening.

      A Fort Wayne resident heard a knock on the front door and went to answer it. When he did, five masked men forced their way inside, at least two of them armed, and ordered everyone to the ground. Three other residents were home at the time and when one of them, Chris Torres, heard rustling downstairs he immediately armed up with a handgun, Journal Gazette reports.”


        “Police had ‘three contacts’ with suspect Elliot Rodger before a mass shooting on Friday night in Isla Vista that left seven dead and thirteen injured.

        Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown said on Saturday that police had conducted a ‘welfare check’ on 22-year-old Rodger on April 30.

        Police spokeswoman Kelly Hoover has said the wellness check will be reviewed as authorities continue their investigation. …

        The responding deputies gave him some advice and information on where to seek help, and left. …”

      • From your first link:

        “Documentarian Michael Moore, who made the critically-acclaimed film Bowling for Columbine about the 1999 deadly school shooting in Ohio, released a statement of Facebook Saturday calling what happened in Santa Barbara a ‘part of normal American life.’

        ‘We are a people easily manipulated by fear which causes us to arm ourselves with a quarter BILLION guns in our homes that are often easily accessible to young people, burglars, the mentally ill and anyone who momentarily snaps,’ he wrote. …”

        Yes, people are easily MANIPULATED BY FEAR, which is exactly what people like Moore count on with their calls to violate the rights of every American because one psycho kid falls through the cracks and gets guns DESPITE social services, the POLICE, and his family knowing he’s, in essence, nuts. But never let a good crisis go to waste. CAPITALIZE ON THE FEAR. Except I don’t think it’s working. Americans are just not THAT stupid. They ought to know that by now. Common sense prevails. Look to BIG PHARMA. Look to an oversexualized society promoted by the progressives. Look to homosexual panic. There is FAR MORE to this than meets the eye.

      • May 25, 2014

        “‘Disturbed white males’ are the most dangerous people in the country: Michael Moore speaks out after Elliot Rodgers killed his three roommates, two sorority sisters and a male student”
        May 25, 2014

        “Compare and Contrast – Three killed, five wounded in Myrtle Beach shootings – During “Black Bike Week” Event…. But, As Usual, The Media Ignore That Part”
        May 22, 2014

        “Beyond Censorship, Now Media Fraud – Channel 6 Orlando Florida Staggering Censorship To Remove Descriptions Of Murder Suspects… Racial Censorship …”

        “Here is an example of the most blatant and brutally obvious media manipulations we have seen in a while.

        Channel 6 in Orlando Florida is covering the story of three black suspects who open fire on a random white target in front of a hospital.

        However, the media go well beyond racial censorship and directly to outright fraud. …”

        • How racist is that? I’m serious. Where’s the outcry about that racist statement and when will Moore APOLOGIZE to all “white” males? It’s a great question why some deaths seem to be more newsworthy than others. It’s not that the victims are more important. It’s that the usefulness of the incident as a meme to push the progressive agenda drives the “newsworthiness” of the event. The il-logic is mind-numbing. Over this past weekend, this happened:

          Three have their throats slit by a woman and two armed men. Did you hear about this horror? Thankfully, the victims will survive. But this kind of thing goes on on a daily basis in inner cities throughout the country. Do you hear the progressives complaining about the massive amount of ILLEGAL guns being carried daily in inner cities and wielded against fellow citizens by “persons of color”? Do you hear them calling for some campaign to disarm these potential perps of their ILLEGAL weapons? No. What you hear is them pushing to disarm citizens (mostly white ones, they hope) who LEGALLY own weapons. That, and declaring virtually EVERY veteran to be mentally ill, so they can then disarm them, too. After all, who would be the most likely to stand against tyranny from within? That would be trained, efficient, experienced, and patriotic citizens who have served.

          I have news for Moore: IF it’s true that we as a nation are singularly “plagued” by this kind of random act of violence (not true; it’s happened in Japan, Norway, Russia, and other places, too), then the odds are that the culprit (the root cause, if there is one) is DRUGS. Prescribed psycho-active drugs. It’s not even speculation. The ADS that they play on TV MUST declare what they KNOW to be true. The government MAKES THEM state that these drugs “may” cause suicidal and homicidal thoughts and tendencies. Do they need somebody to draw them a picture? We need a graph showing the in-tandem increase in the use of psychoactive drugs by young men and the rise in these types of crimes.

        • I wonder if Moore would say, after reading that story, that “disturbed black bikers” might be rather “dangerous” and a plague on America, too? There’s no debate that statistics show that certain races commit disproportionately MORE of the violent acts in this country than others. It’s FACT. STATISTICS. Something which progressive liars like Moore love to cite. Well, maybe not. He just pulls stuff out of his BUTT. Where’re his statistic to back up his statement that “disturbed white males are the most dangerous people in the country?” I think the FACTS, SCIENTIFIC FACTS, prove otherwise.

          • May 26, 2014


            “The Myrtle Beach Mayhem Continues – Five Shootings, Three Dead, Seven Wounded and A Local Government and Media Frozen In The Quicksand Of Political Correctness…”

            “You see, in the week prior to Memorial Day, and Black Bike Week, there is a general Bike Week without a racial component.

            However, when the non racially identified Bike Week ends, the Black Bike Week begins.

            Unfortunately for the media, there were no “Bike Week” shootings in the week prior to BBW to provide PC cover for the violence that breaks out when BBW begins.

            The response from the media and local authorities is a classic example of political correctness running amuck.

            The community is responding to the reality of Black Bike Week. They want it stopped, or at the very least more law enforcement brought in to curb the accompanying violence and mayhem.

            But how does a city, a community, or a PC infected media actually outline where one event, mostly consisting of non-blacks does not need the militarized police presence, but the following week -consisting almost exclusively of black bikers- a significant police presence is needed?

            Some store owners have made the business decision to close shop during Black Bike Week because of the inherent danger. That brought on the wrath of the NAACP who threatened to sue any business who would be open for “Bike Week” but close when “Black Bike Week” begins.”


            • Here will be the probable answer: The “community” and its taxpayers and its employees will have to be “equal” and pretend that both events require the same amount of policing, no matter the reality, because to do otherwise will be offensive to the “black” community. So there will be a stepped up police presence during the non-black biker event solely to keep from “insulting” the black bikers who have demonstrated that they have to be policed more stringently, especially seeing as how they seem to brag about their intent to break laws (helmet laws and noise laws). It’s insane for the NAACP to threaten to SUE private businesses for closing during a specific week when a “black” event is taking place, but now that they have gotten a mile from the “inch” of Sterling’s PRIVATE remarks, there’s nothing they will not try.

        • May 28, 2014

          M. Catharine Evans:

          “Michael Moore is One Disturbed White Male”

          “Moore also fails to mention that black males are mostly responsible for the 565 shootings and 95 deaths that occurred in Chicago between January and April of 2014 or that Chicago has some of the toughest gun control laws in the country.

          Moore then makes the outrageous claim that no other country “comes close to killing many of its own citizens” than the U.S. He should know better. Moore was an admirer of Venezuela’s late Marxist President, Hugo Chavez. In 2009 he posed with Chavez at the Venice Film Fest. So why wasn’t the documentarian familiar with these statistics?

          From Reuters:

          A perpetually edgy city full of guns, Caracas’ murder rate is more than 100 per 100,000 residents, according to OVA. The government does not publish an official figure.

          By comparison, the United States’ current rate is about 4.7 deaths per 100,000.

          …a decades-old problem in Venezuela, armed robberies, kidnappings and murders climbed during the 1999-2013 rule of President Hugo Chavez, despite his anti-poverty programs.”

          • You know, in my color-blindness, when I complained about Moore the other day, I totally missed that he referred to the shooter as a “white” male. The guy is half-Asian. In typical progressive fashion, a mixed-race person gets categorized by politics. If a mixed-race person does something “wrong” in the eyes of progressives, then he’s “white” if any portion of his ancestry is white. If he does something good, then he becomes whatever portion of his ancestry is “of color”. Thus, Barry, half-white, is the FIRST black president (that’s if he even is black at all). Rodger, being a murderer, becomes “white”, even though he’s half Asian (and actually could be a fellow “desi” with Barry). Or are they sexist in their categorization? Mothers don’t count? We saw this with George Zimmerman. Because they wanted to excoriate him and persecute him and make something racial between blacks and whites, they morphed Zimmerman into a “white” hispanic instead of the part-black, part-hispanic, part-white guy that he is. But because Trayvon was black, they had to, somehow, set up a black/white conflict to advance their racist policies. If the Santa Barbara domestic terrorist, hate crime perpetrator is “white” then so is Barry. He’s as white as Rodger was. ALLEGEDLY. We still don’t know who his parents are.

            • One almost, almost, has to wonder if this is somehow another Sandy Hook or Boston Marathon event. It’s California, among the most progressive of states, and on/near the campus of Big Sis Napolitano. Never let a crisis go to waste. Politicized within HOURS. The NRA blamed. It’s illogical and craven. IS EVERY KNIFE OWNER TO BLAME FOR THE SLAYINGS OF THE ROOMMATES? SHOULD EVERY KNIFE BE REGISTERED OR CONFISCATED? SHOULD THE FAMILIES SUE “Big Knife”, whoever they happen to be? Of course, now we’re told that he (possibly) used a machete, perhaps to head off just such arguments, because at least a machete might be considered a weapon instead of a common ordinary tool, although it is a tool. But he also allegedly possibly used a hammer. So should Home Depot and Lowes and anybody else who sells hammers be sued for their complicity in these horrible crimes? I’m sorry, but what person, having just lost an only child, begins a political crusade before his child is mourned and buried? Will we ever learn the details of the murders or, with the perp conveniently deceased, will nothing be revealed? Will “privacy” prevent the revelation, as with Sandy Hook, of the autopsy reports and/or the details of the crimes?

              • Read this one carefully: Note the mention of Sandy Hook and the photo of the victim as a child.

              • time for a break from this guy. Read this…..though long ,WMR has made some interesting connects….if true someone should pursue it more. I’ve never heard of some of this stuff. Read it all…..There’s also a Secretary of commerce…Alexander Trowbridge in 1967….and connects with BIC, the covert business co. Obama worked for was busy back then too. Then there’s the claim that Obama is the product of an Afro-Cuban dude that Stanley knew while in Cuba for the CIA. Whewwww….. what do you think? Some of it’s plausible for sure.???

                December 7-8, 2010 — SPECIAL REPORT. Link between Obama’s CIA front employer and mother’s Asian work revealed
                December 7-8, 2010 — SPECIAL REPORT. Link between Obama’s CIA front employer and mother’s Asian work revealed
                WMR has uncovered CIA-archival documents that point to a link between Barack Obama’s post-Columbia University CIA front employer, Business International Corporation (BIC), and his mother’s two employers, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) and the Asian Development Bank. WMR has also discovered CIA files that point to the use of field anthropologists abroad, working under foundation cover, by the CIA. Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham/Obama/Soetoro/Sutoro worked as a field anthropologist in Indonesia under the cover of the Ford Foundation.

                BIC and the Ford Foundation maintained a close relationship through the BIC’s running of the Business International Roundtable. Papers maintained at the John F. Kennedy Library provide a linkage between David E. Bell, the Director of the Bureau of the Budget from 1961 to 1962 and administrator of the USAID from 1963 to 1966, and the Ford Foundation, where Bell served as executive vice president from 1966 to 1981, and Business International, where Bell participated in one of their Business International Roundtables on December 17, 1965, at the National Academy of Sciences in Washington. The Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. Foundation helped fund the CIA’s Airlift Africa project that saw it used to bring Barack H. Obama, Sr. to the University of Hawaii in 1960, as well as over two hundred other African students to other American universities, as part of the CIA’s program to counter the Soviet Union’s efforts to provide scholarships to African college students in newly-independent African nations at the People’s Friendship University in Moscow (later Patrice Lumumba University).

                BIC also attempted to infiltrate members of Students for Democratic Society (SDS) at Columbia University in the 1960s by offering them money from Rockefeller family coffers. BIC, which ran Business International Roundtables, was cited in its attempts to infiltrate SDS and other leftist groups.

                BIC, which helped propel Obama into international affairs and, later, a profession in politics, was a key to the co-option of leftist groups by Rockefeller and other corporate interests. The following video describes how BIC attempted to infiltrate SDS and other leftist groups beginning after 28 minutes.

                In a book titled “The Strawberry Statement,” James Kunen described Business International, as related by an unnamed 1968 SDS conference attendee, as leading an effort to finance SDS demonstrations in Chicago in the late 1960s. BIC is described in the book as “the left wing of the ruling class.”

                Obama was inserted into the south side of Chicago at the same time the CIA, FBI, and other U.S. intelligence agencies were focused on the foreign connections of the El Rukn gang, the Nation of Islam, and the Black Panthers. Obama’s membership in a leftist organization at Occidental College in Los Angeles appears to have been a continuation of the infiltration efforts by BIC and its major funder, the CIA. WMR previously reported that Obama was a key asset to the penetration of radical black organizations in south Chicago in the mid-1980s. Of particular interest to the CIA after Obama’s graduation from Columbia, was the connections of the El Rukns and Nation of Islam to the Muammar Qaddafi government in Libya, in addition to foreign connections of the Hispanic gang, the Latin Kings, also active in Chicago.

                In 1986, BIC was sold to The Economist Group in London and merged with the Economist Intelligence Unit. BIC had maintained “Business International UK Ltd.,” which, according to n internal CIA memorandum, subscribed to all the CIA’s unclassified publications]. However, the BIC International Roundtables appear to continue under various academic and foundation auspices, including at Obama’s former guest law lecturing employer, the University of Chicago. In addition, the BIC International Roundtables appear to be a continuation of the Roundtables first organized by Africa’s greatest colonialist plunderers, Cecil Rhodes. Rhodes’s business roundtables of the wealthiest elites eventually morphed into the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR. In fact, Obama, the first African-American president of the United States, is a direct product of BIC and its Roundtables, originally founded by Africa’s most infamous looter and pillager of diamonds, gold, and other natural resources and promoter of white minority rule and colonialism, Rhodes.

                On June 14, 1976, Senator John Durkin (D-NH) said there was llittle the Senate could do to reduce the ability of “the Business Roundtable or the Chamber of Commerce . . . to attempt to influence votes, either through sheer force of logic or sheer force.” On June 19, 1975, Representative Wright Patman (D-TX) railed on the House floor that “in 1973 and 1974 — when the previous audit bill was up — the Federal Reserve and its Chairman entered into some highly questionable lobbying tactics, ending up with the involvement of the big banks and the big business combines incluidng the fat cat Business Roundtable.” Obama’s current subservience to Wall Street and the Federal Reserve can be seen through the lens of his employment with BIC, a virtual mouthpiece for what Patman described as the “fat cats.”

                BIC was used by the State Department as a diversion for a delegation of General Accounting Office (GAO) representatives who visited Hong Kong in August 1974 looking for information on possibilities for U.S.-Chinese trade after Richard Nixon had opened China up to the United States. A formerly Confidential cable from the U.S. Consulate General in Hong Kong to the State Department, with copies to the U.S. Liaison Office in Peking and U.S. embassy in Tokyo, dated August 21, 1974, bragged about the consulate’s success in diverting the GAO’s interest from consulate files on “PRC economic affairs (general), foreign trade and trade promotion, (which includes our files on the Canton Trade Fair)” even though the GAO team told the consulate it was “not supposed to do that.” The consulate’s problem appeared to be that some of the files were classified. In order to stymie the GAO group, the consulate directed them to conversations with “companies, third country representatives (identified as UK, Canadian, Australian, and West German trade officials in Hong Kong), Far Eastern Economic Review, and Business International staffs.” The GAO delegation was particularly interested in potential oil and mining deals with China.

                It is apparent that the consulate and BIC wanted to keep what they knew about Chinese trade under wraps, even from Congress. A few weeks after the GAO team was in Hong Kong, a new head of the U.S. Liaison Office in Peking replaced Ambassador David Bruce. His name was George H. W. Bush.

                BIC was also used by the State Department and CIA to keep tabs on U.S. firms on the Arab boycott blacklist for investing in or trading with Israel. A Congressional Record insertion in 1965 stated, “Business International reported in January 1964 that there were 164 U.S. firms on the Arab blacklist, adding that, “many American businessmen who have wanted to trade or invest in Israel have been deterred by Arab threats.”

                BIC also enjoyed a cozy relationship with USAID in 1982, the year before Barack Obama graduated from Columbia and joined BIC’s staff in New York. Obama’s mother had been a long time employee of USAID, an agency with historical links to the CIA.

                On June 8, 1962, in a hearing on “U.S. Policies and Programs in Southeast Asia” held by the Senate Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs and chaired by Senator S. I. Hayakawa (R-CA), Elise R. W. duPont, the Assistant Administrator for Private Enterprise for USAID, testified that her agency was “working with Business International to develop country specific information on laws, regulations, and policies in developing countries that affect investment.” DuPont specifically stated that USAID was using the information from BIC to conduct “bureau reconnaissance missions” in Indonesia and Thailand and this included support for “a venture capital firm and a leasing firm in Indonesia.” BIC, along with a CIA-connected firm called InterMatrix, also conducted country risk analyses for the CIA.

                Obama’s first employer acted as a bridge between the U.S. intelligence world, with USAID and other government fronts as cover, and the print media. On May 4, 1967, Acting Secretary of Commerce Alexander B. Trowbridge told the East-West Trade Conference as Bowling Green State University that U.S. trade missions to the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe were facilitated by “TIME, Inc. and Business International.” Trowbridge said the use of “trade publications,” such as those for whom Obama worked after graduating from Columbia, “stimulated” the exchange of information between East and West.

                BIC’s relationship with the U.S.governments sensitive trade channels with the East Bloc continued through 1979. A “Cuban Chronology,” dated April 1979 and issued by the CIA’s National Foreign Assessment Center, states that from November 20 to 25, 1977, BIC sponsored “meetings in Havanaof representatives of 50 US firms and their contact points in the Cuban government.” WMR has learned from a reliable source that Obama’s grandfather, Stanley Dunham, had traveled to Cuba in 1960 on CIA business with Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham. It has also been strongly rumored by informed sources with connections to the Cuban government that Barack H. Obama, Sr. was not the father of Barack Obama, Jr. but that his actual father was an Afro-Cuban who Ann Dunham met during the 1960 trip with her father.

                A formerly classified CIA “East Europe Branch Notes,” report, dated February 4, 1974, states “A three-day roundtable conference between Business International and East German officials concerned with the promotion of trade opened in East Berlin on February 4. Orville Freeman, President of Business International, heads the foreign participants, comprising presidents, vice presidents, and board members of important US and West European enterprises. GDR Premier Sindermann told the group further steps toward detente have a favorable effect on the expansion of foreign economic activities. He also said that East Germany plans to expand substantially its economic relations with non-socialist cluntries. The remainder of the report from East Germany’s roundtable with BIC is redacted.

                BIC, along with the CIA, also participated in private conclaves sponsored by an entity called the “Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions,” operating from Post Office Box 4068 in Santa Barbara, California and funded by a non-profit corporation called “The Fund for the Republic,” which were held periodically on top of Eucalyptus Hill, overlooking the Pacific Ocean, in Santa Barbara. A fellow of the Center was Edward Engberg, the Managing Editor for Business International who was also a former assistant editor for Fortunemagazine. Other center fellows and consultants included Associate Justice of the US Supreme Court William O. Douglas; former President of the University of California Clark Kerr; former President of the University of Chicago Robert M. Hutchins (also the President of the center); and Isidor Rabi, Professor of Physics at Columbia University; Stanley Sheinbaum, former consultant to the government of South Vietnam; John R. Seeley, Chairman of the Sociology Department at Brandeis University; and Harvey Wheeler, co-author of the book “Fail Safe.”

                CIA files contain a 1967 letter to the editor of the Daily Emerald from three anthropology professors at the University of Oregon supporting a decision of the American Anthropological Association (AAA) condemning the “intelligence meddling” of the CIA and Defense Department in anthropological field work. 1967 was the same year that Ann Dunham was performing such anthropological “field work” for USAID, a front for the CIA, in Java, Indonesia. The AAA’s Professor Ralph Beals from UCLA] report stated that the Pentagon and CIA “repeatedly interfered with anthropological work abroad, and have clearly jeopardized our chances, as anthropologists, to do meaningful foreign research.”

                And in what is the clearest evidence yet that Ann Dunham was working for the CIA in Indonesia and elsewhere, the Beals Report stated: “several anthropologists, especially younger ones who had difficulty in securing research funds, were approached by ‘obscure’ foundations or were offered support from such organizations only to discover later that they were expected to provide intelligence information to the CIA.” The report added, “agents of the CIA have posed as anthropologists, much to the detriment of the anthropological research programs.”

                In Ann Dunham/Soetoro’s case, her foundation “sugar daddy” was the Ford Foundation and USAID. Her boss at Ford was none other than Peter Geithner, the father of President Obama’s current Treasury Secretary, Tim Geithner.

                • Trowbridge? Now there’s a common name. Where did we hear that name before? Hmmm. The stuff about Ann the “anthropologist” is interesting. The connection to Geithner we knew about. The rest is an interesting narrative, but without some evidence it means not much. We see potential connections. Is there a link to his article?

                  • It’s probably here down near bottom. Lot’s of reading before I got there. It make a lot of sees to me…at least most of it.

                    • alfy …. here’s the part I like… ^^^ @Tales from O’s Crypt

                      From an African-American political activist in Chicago who knows President Obama, we have learned that Obama’s mother was not born in Wichita, Kansas but was born in Beirut, Lebanon while her parents were serving with the wartime Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the forerunner to the CIA. Ann Dunham’s birth date is reported to have been November 29, 1942.

                    • That is a good part. My gosh, it’s going to take a long while to read all that. Did you see all the citations Citizen Wells got? Way to go, CW.

            • May 28, 2014

              Joe Newby:

              “Rutgers professor blames UCSB killings on white privilege”

              “According to Brittney Cooper, a contributing writer at Salon who also teaches Women’s and Gender Studies and Africana Studies at Rutgers University, white privilege and racism is the reason Elliot Rodger went on a killing spree, Truth Revolt reported Tuesday, citing an article she published at Salon.

              “Welp. Another young white guy has decided that his disillusionment with his life should become somebody else’s problem,” she wrote. “How many times must troubled young white men engage in these terroristic acts that make public space unsafe for everyone before we admit that white male privilege kills?”

              “Black men are not rolling onto college campuses and into movie theaters on a regular basis to shoot large amounts of people. Usually, the young men who do that are white, male, heterosexual, and middle-class,” she added.”


              • Of course! Blame the VICTIMS, especially the ones who are women. This is of a piece with the typical progressive SEXISM. Elliot Rodger was ASIAN, not WHITE. And he enjoyed privileges that most people can’t even dream of. If she thinks black “men” don’t “on a regular basis” shoot “large amounts of people”, then I invite her to spend ANY night in the inner areas of the large cities near which I live. Or at Myrtle Beach during “Black Bike Week”. What a RACIST. She ought to be made to apologize to all white people in this country, to all white males, and to be fired from her taxpayer-funded job (no doubt) at Rutgers University. Yep. It’s a STATE university, so taxpayer funded, although all colleges and universities get our money via loans, fellowships, grants, scholarships, tax breaks, one way or another.

                • As expected. I see no way to access the comments at her article, but even after having it pointed out that he wasn’t “white”, she persists in labeling him white. Brittney Cooper,

                  CHECK YOUR HATE.

                  • ~ deeznuggets 5 minutes ago ^^^^^
                    It’s not as simple as any singular subject, even one as complicated as race. Our dysfunctional society breaks people’s minds and spirits. Some express the damage internally (prescription/illegal drugs, alcohol, mental illness), some externally (crime, murder, mental illness). Period. Discuss.

                    ~ insidejokeontheoutside 6 minutes ago
                    Blacks and whites want to believe the worst in each other.

                    • ~ Retweeted by Brittney Cooper ~ Ctrl Phreak ‏@PhreakCtrl 15h
                      Negroes make up only 13.1% of the US population
                      YET are Responsible for 52.5% of US homicides. White privilage, huh?

                    • I don’t think that’s true. I think most people want to believe the best about all other people. Too many times, though, we get disappointed.

                • Note: There’s a new set of code words in her screed and it’s “working-class white men.” Remember that. I heard on radio that Ctr. for American Progress is publishing policy papers with regard to HOW the DemoncRATS can connect with “working-class white men” and get them to vote DemoncRATic without alienating their base of persons of color. They’re concerned about how they can exploit this new, upcoming “minority” of working-class whites so as they become alienated with a world that more and more caters to the “persons of color” they won’t switch over to become more reliable Republican or, heaven forbid, TEA PARTY voters. The working class used to belong to the DemoncRATS because of the unions, but not so much anymore. So watch for the Journolist to suddenly begin seducing the “working-class white men”. Pay attention as the meme develops and the lamestream goes all out to help the DemoncRATS for 2014 and 2016.

              • May 29, 2014

                “Salon’s Joan Walsh: Santa Barbara Killings Result of Shooter’s “Half-White Male Privilege”…”

                “Walsh never ceases to outdo herself.”


                • Half-white male privilege. That’s a good one! However, I’m sure if they think about it long enough, they can come up with Asian privilege, too. After all, aren’t they at the top of their classes all the time? It’s NOT FAIR. WAH!!!!!

                  • It certainly is an anti-white hate crime because he singled out BLONDS for his racial bias and hatred, as well as his misogyny. He killed the roommates I don’t know why. Collateral damage or just personal hatred because he despised them from the time he moved in with them, he said, calling them nerds. But the hatred for the women was for BLONDS, which are WHITE people and it wasn’t personalized.

                • I have a nice phrase in my mind to describe her, but I will refrain.

            • jeff yang ~ ELLIOT & OUR .. Twisted Global Culture interesting … love/hate & much more


  8. Fatalities by year & month Bush 2001-2008 & Obama 2009-2014

  9. Rosemary Woodhouse

    ??!!!!!! Numbers never lie. Unless the government is trying to get us to say
    2 + 2 = 5.

  10. Conclusion ….(as she ends with this…)

    So I Grieve. I Grieve for what we’ve Lost, what we were, what we once had, & what we’ve now become. I Grieve for my Nation, for her Soul, & for her People who are too busy watching Dancing with the Stars & American Idol to see what has happened to our Beloved Country. I Grieve because we’ve thrown God OUS of every facet of American society. I grieve because we think nothing of Murdering 50 million Babies in the Wombs. I Grieve because I SEE the Losses. I Grieve because I Know too Much, & I Grieve because so FEW are Fighting to save her…our once great America & her God-given Freedoms. I Grieve, I Mourn, & I Weep and I’m still Fighting to Save HER. Unless more Americans Stand Up for Truth, Righteousness, Liberty & Freedom, I’m afraid ALL is Lost. Dear God in heaven, I Grieve.
    ……(me 2)
    © 2012 Kelleigh Nelson – All Rights Reserved

  11. An oldie but a goody. 🙂


    ” “Here’s what Zullo revealed, four very important things:

    “Number 1—He spoke on behalf of Sheriff Joe assuring America that the investigation was in full bore mode and that the two news conferences, one with Arpaio and one with Zullo, would happen. Everything is still a “go.” There’s still a criminal investigation under Sheriff Joe and there is the birth certificate under investigation headed up by Mike Zullo, under Sheriff Joe.

    “The second thing that Mike Zullo revealed was that he again spoke on behalf of Joe Arpaio, assuring America that they are now honing in on “the group responsible for the forging of the fake document.” This was huge information. The public had never heard this before.

    Number 3—Mike revealed for the very first time that the investigation team possessed NSA documents explaining exactly how to use a Xerox copier to produce anomalies and scrub documents, just as the Obots some months ago tried to convince the world was the reason why the Obama birth certificate had anomalies that could easily be produced by some magical Xerox machine. Zullo revealed one of the reasons that they now know all of that was a smoke screen by the Obots and whoever they are officially representing. That was big information revealed for the very first time.

    “The fourth thing that Mike Zullo was that the Doug Vogt documents, now unsealed court documents, that so many people are buzzing about all over the Internet, does not contain earth-shattering information that is useful to this investigation, and in fact Zullo said, it does contain some erroneous information according to the official investigation of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office. That was pretty big news.

    “And then number 5—Mike Zullo made it clear that unless you hear information and announcements on Freedom Friday or from me, Carl Gallups, or from the PPSimmons News and Ministry Network, it did not come from him.9 Now this is simply Zullo’s way of preserving the integrity of the information that he releases since Obot and birther fanatics often claim to speak on Mike Zullo’s behalf. …”

    Would anyone care to explain to me why number 3 is “big information?” If the universe-shattering information is some minutia about an effing Xerox machine, then I am well and truly disappointed. Number 2 is in no way “huge information,” imho. Why would it be? What’s “huge”? That there’s a group? One would expect them to be HOMING in on the culprits after all this time. Number 4 is NOT “big news;” it’s something that was OBVIOUS to anyone reading the documents. Number 5, imho, is underwhelming. I’m just sayin’.

    • last interview with Arpaio said they were honing in (or investigating ) who did it and he too said that Vogt’s info was erroneous. So really there’s no news we haven’t already heard. They have mentioned in numerous ways that something came up and they are looking into a criminal case. That could be misleading, as it all seems criminal to me, but are they referring to a criminal case that came to their attention that may have baring on their work. It was never clear. They have brought it up as if that is a separate issue……I’ve wondered if that pertained to their criminal investigations that now the Maricopa county detectives and Arpaio’s department are following up on.

      • It has something to do with the Xerox thing. All I can figure is that the forgery was created on a government-owned machine and the forgery was used to get Barry fraudulently on ballots in AZ, which would make it in his jurisdiction and a crime he could investigate. But who knows? As you say, there are so many potential criminal acts involved, but butterdezillion has said that she found a clause in some law that makes it arguably legal for them to create a bogus document to protect someone’s life (such as witness protection) and since they paint “birthers” and Tea Partiers as potential domestic terrorists, they might plan to fall back on that argument as justification. They’re weasels. We know that. In my opinion, the only way that this would be universe shattering is IF they can prove that he wasn’t born here AND wasn’t born to the people he claims, especially IF the people he was born to aren’t even black in any way, shape, or form. Do you think U.S. blacks would consider a Papuan “black”? One has to wonder. How invested in him are they? He’s such a failure, you almost have to believe that they’d be happy to throw him under the bus and throw the dice for another REAL first black president. Allen West would be nice. 🙂

        • I have mentioned this before but worth mentioning again. No, not all blacks are invested in Barry. The majority black precinct I worked at was only approximately two thirds for him in 2012. Not all voted for him but almost every single one voiced for Obama when no politically allowed. Those that supported him do, I think, not because he is black but because they thought he could get them their dues and reparations and have a chance to be in charge if whitey. But they despise him and if he does not produce and let them run the show, they will turn on him. They don’t like him because they now know he is not black, is gay, and is not really for the black causes and has not given power to the MVP generals.

          • Like many whites, they were also probably under duress to be PC and vote for him only because he was black and they would be “race traitors” otherwise. More and more blacks I know or meet, however, are wont to say derogatory things about him. Mostly, they think he’s inept and has screwed things up royally.

  13. spread the word … make them SWEAT….. then Pounce…. I want the
    out-come of this
    “waiting-game”…. to END… like Agnostics … finding GOD ! just pray

    Yep, mistakes were made:

    The CIA’s top officer in Kabul was exposed Saturday by the White House when his name was inadvertently included on a list provided to news organizations of senior U.S. officials participating in President Obama’s surprise visit with U.S. troops.

    The White House recognized the mistake and quickly issued a revised list that did not include the individual, who had been identified on the initial release as the “Chief of Station” in Kabul, a designation used by the CIA for its highest-ranking spy in a country.

    The disclosure marked a rare instance in which a CIA officer working overseas had his cover — the secrecy meant to protect his actual identity — pierced by his own government. …

    The CIA officer was one of 15 senior U.S. officials identified as taking part in a military briefing for Obama at Bagram air base, a sprawling military compound north of Kabul. … [Did Barry go there just for this “mistake”?]

    Their names were included on a list of participants in the briefing provided by U.S. military officials to the White House press office. [They’re going to blame it on the “military”.]

    The list was circulated by e-mail to reporters who traveled to Afghanistan with Obama, and disseminated further when it was included in a “pool report,” or summary of the event meant to be shared with other news organizations, including foreign media, not taking part in the trip.

    In this case, the pool report was filed by Washington Post White House bureau chief Scott Wilson. Wilson said he had copied the list from the e-mail provided by White House press officials. He sent his pool report to the press officials, who then distributed it to a list of more than 6,000 recipients. …”

    6000 recipients! Yes, “mistakes” were made. Do you believe it was a “mistake”?

  15. Just waiting to hear that he’s mad as heck about the outing of the Kabul station chief.

  16. But first he needs to read it in the paper:

  17. Rosemary Woodhouse

    On a positive note, Ukip won! We need a Uskip!

    • Yep. That’s a very interesting turn of events, isn’t it? They’re the ones going “forward” as we regress to the 1930s under Hitler.

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        It’s encouraging. I don’t want to be a Negative Nelly, but methinks we’re too far gone. At least the Brits have a unified culture to be proud of and, I believe, a free press.

        We were told we were a melting pot. But that changed and diversity prevailed. I’ll take the fondue, please.

        I would like to see nothing more than a hard turn right, But with the “quality” of most ‘Mericans it’s hard to imagine. Ukip is able to say they want quality immigrants, We say that here and it’s “code” for racism.

        RW with Your Daily Dose of Cynicism.

  18. The Hammer says Obama is stalling. 😯


    “President Barack Obama’s administration has quietly suggested it is willing to create a two-tier race-based legal system in Hawaii, where one set of taxes, spending and law enforcement will govern one race, and the second set of laws will govern every other race[s?].

    The diversity proposal is portrayed as an effort to create a separate in-state government for people who are “native Hawaiians.”

    If Obama succeeds, “what’s to prevent creating similar [self-governing racial] groups out of say, Cajuns, or Orthodox Jews or Amish?” said Gail Heriot, a commissioner on the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.

    “If you can do that with groups that are already part of the mainstream, you can balkanize the country,” said Heriot, who is a law professor at the University of San Diego.

    But the proposed measure to increase legal diversity is illegal because the president doesn’t have the power to grant one group of Americans the status of a separate government, she said.

    There is no constitutional basis for conferring such status, and Congress has repeatedly refused to confer this status,” said Carissa Mulder, a spokeswoman for two members of the federal Commission on Civil Rights.

    “This seems to be yet another case of the Obama administration ignoring the law to achieve its policy objectives,” she added.

    The move was announced Friday before Memorial Day as White House officials and congressional Democrats stepped up predictions that the president will try to bypass congressional opposition to his progressive policy preferences. …”

    • BUTT he owes them big time and this is the price.

    • OK I see this is a Mark Cuban post , which I don’t give one bit of attention to, but the separate race tax thing that’s quite another issue. The kings of England did this till the great charter. Jews and others were taxed differently and other nefarious laws the king chose to impose. We already know Obama decries king all the time. This won’t go over so well, I hope anyway.

      • I hope it doesn’t go over well, too. (All thread are now open threads, so no problem. Speak at will!) Anyway, back to Hawaii–you make a great point about Jews being taxed differently. Barry and his ilk want to reverse history in that they want to put the “people of color” on top, as the elite, but instead of 200 years or so, they want it in perpetuity. This is how Hitler began and it ended in genocide. Look to South Africa. Necklacing and machete murders of whites. It’s not a case of reparations or respect for another “nation” within a nation (anathema to our country, btw). It’s a case of them wanting to rise to the top to be a perpetual elite from where they can oppress and wreak revenge upon those they believe done them wrong. btw, I talked about my experience in college with certain groups that did not want to “mix”. Wanna know where these “folks” came from for the most part? CHICAGO. Mooch sisters. They were looking down their noses on those they believed were beneath them, which included not only poorer whites and hispanics, but also the local blacks. They thought they were of a higher class. Jarrett types, if you know what I mean. There must be something in the water in Chicago, too.

    • jizya tax – its a message

  20. OK… I just GOT a FLASH !!! How Does the LAUGH MATCH UP?
    (this really could B HIS SON!!!! )
    ~ 2 hours ago ….. over @ BR… I’LL GO FETCH IT …

    ~Obots, why are DEMS ……
    TRY -ing… to Get RID of the Death Penalty for TREASON? ..O’ ?

    ~This guy is not ONLY ” INELIGIBLE” …. He Is
    “DERANGED” & In a Bubble ” ….




    ~Not that “Finger-Pointing Solves Anything”, BUTT’ Obama wants you
    to know … that it was “Republicans” … & … the “Media” ……
    who put his presidency on ICE……
    At a fundraiser in Chicago on Thursday Night, Obama said: ….

    Bill Clinton was Forced 2 Provide DNA while in Office during his tenure

    ~ LET’S DEMAND IT.. it’s “SHOW ME” time .. PROVIDE the TRUTH..
    since ALL his papers are locked up ate up tore up burned up…etc.
    above ^^^ comments telling more good news as more are appearing
    in Favor of the TRUTH-FUL OUT-COME… come OUT O’ come OUT

    • Now that poor kid is blaming himself. The person to blame is the perp, and nobody else. If they have to look for accomplices, then look to the parents, the therapists, his counselors, and the cops–all of whom KNEW something was seriously wrong. There’s the answer to how they got to be roommates: The apartment complex “matched” them by personality, opening a whole new area of liability, should the parents decide to pursue civil charges. As an apartment owner, no way would I go out on a limb matching potential roommates.

  22. Among the 6 people that Rodger killed were “his 2 current roommates”
    & “a guest”.. who was just Visiting them. (we just never we)
    Rugg said …. his Roommate “Informed HIM” that HE Believed Rodger
    HAD a Firearm because he “could Hear a Gun “Clicking.” …OK…
    “I didn’t hear the clicks, but he’d would click the gun over & over.
    OK. … 2 roommates SAW IT Rugg & Another & did nothing? weird?

    In his Manifesto, Rodger referred to Rugg & another roommate, Jon,
    as “nerds” who were “friendly & pleasant” to live with.
    Rugg said “the trio were Matched as RoomMates”…. at their apartment complex “after filling out a worksheet about their Personalities.”.. OK
    “I guess we were the quiet apartment,” he said.
    Rodger took them up on social invites for meals or gym time but after
    the 4th or 5th time, then HE Stopped, ? … Rugg said.

    While his roommate was a man of few words & seemed to be eager
    to Avoid Conversation, Rugg said he “Heard ELLIOT” having what he presumed to be “Telephone Conversation’s” from HIS bedroom that
    got ….. “Angrier & Louder.”
    SO… was he talking to himself? A parent?
    wanting to come HOME? OR maybe a Girl on the phone? ..OR?

    OK….BUTT’ the family friend … Simon Astair… “SKIPPED OVER ” ?
    & did “NOT ANSWER” the question ! IF IN FACT …
    “IF that Elliot was CLOSE … to his PARENTS” …. very TELLING!

    & that Elliot …. “NEVER.. Displayed” …ANY “ANGER><EVER" ? ?
    JUST get real.. I know how it goes (Not the TRUTH.. it's not the truth!)

    that he kept it HIDDEN.. as trying to push people off the ledge &
    pour drinks on them dozen of Anger issues no one cared 2 really SEE.

    "There was a lot of frustration for how he was NOT having a good
    time at school & how NO 1 seemed to wanted to hang OUT with him,
    & it just got More & More Serious," Rugg said. ……YES IT DID …

    ~ also DID they FIRST call the Cops before the 100 MILE DRIVE?
    I want to know the time laps as the stories DO keep changing…

    • Wow, Zenway. I missed that. Is it really a 100 mile drive? The mother, iirc, did claim she called 911 when she saw the manifesto that he emailed to her.

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