Obama Mystery Theater: Mark Ndesandjo Speaks

markandbrother - CopyIn a recent Newmax article, there’s audio of an interview with Mark Ndesandjo, Barack Obama’s half-brother by another mother.  A partial transcript appears below, of what seems most interesting, at least to me. [emphasis added]

At the beginning of the interview, Mark says,

The story actually begins about fifty years ago, when Barack Obama Senior, uh, went to Hawaii, as a, as a, a student and met Sally Ann Dunham, and shortly after that conceived Barack. A few years later, they divorced and, uh, he met my mother (pauses, utters “whi”) Ruth Baker, when she was at Harvard Universi, uh, uh, at Harvard. And, uh, shortly after that they went back to Kenya, uh, where I was conceived.  We’re both, uh, we both have white mother, uh, white American mothers; we’re both Americans; uh, we’re both multi-r, uh, mixed race; uh, we also went to, uh, we’re also born just a few years apart; and we have a lot of similarities and also a lot of differences.

Mark Ndesandjo’s speech has the same inflection, the same cadence, the same lisping “s” as does his half-brother’s. Quite odd, for men raised by different women, at different schools, in different countries, and, in fact, on different continents.

Curiously, Mark describes his first meeting with Barack “in 1988.”  He says that was “about 20 years ago.”  By my reckoning, that was 26 years ago.  (Mark holds degrees in physics and mathematics.)

Also curiously, while recounting Barack’s 1988 visit to Kenya, Mark refers to Auma as “my” sister, instead of our sister, and he refers to their father as “my” father, instead of our father.

The “mistake” concerning Stanley Ann Dunham’s name (Mark calls her Sally) is compounded in the accompanying Newsmax article, which refers to Barack’s mother as Sydney Ann Dunham.

We’ve had fun with the ever-morphing names for Barack Obama’s mother over the years. First she was Shirley, then Mary Ann, then Stanley, now Sally or Sydney!  See this post for a history of her shifting nomenclature.

About five minutes into the audio, Mark refers to himself and Barack as “the two, only two, mixed race kids in the Obama family.”  This is curious because, according to the official story, Mark had a full brother–David Obama–also the son of Ruth Baker and Barack Obama Sr.  This brother, although now allegedly deceased, was of mixed race, too.  He allegedly lived into his late teens, and so would have shared the same problems as his brother and half-brother, with trying to fit into more or less racially homogenous cultures while growing up.

The interviewer asks whether Mark believes that someone else wrote Barack’s books for him, like Bill Ayers. Mark replies, “I don’t know enough about that.”  Then Mark goes on to talk about how the Obamas are “proud” and wouldn’t want others to write their books for them.

This is quite amusing, given that there’s hardly an Obama who hasn’t “written” a book, and it’s likely that most were ghost written.  What an Obama “wants” is not necessarily what’s true.  I have little doubt (some, but just a little) that Mark wrote his own book. He says so, and he seems like a very intelligent and talented man, perfectly capable of writing a book.

What is missing from Mark’s “story” about Barack Obama Sr. in the USA?  There’s no mention of a marriage to either white American mother.  Mark does, however, mention Sally’s (snark) divorce from Barack Sr.

Mark declines to answer whether or not he perceives Barack as a Marxist.  He doesn’t answer “political” questions.  He does say that when they first met in 1988, Barack was very influenced by African nationalism.   Mark then again refers to the present time as being 15 to 20 years after their first meeting.  Do the math.

By the way, in the mid-1980s, Mark attended college in the United States, graduating in 1988.  He went to Stanford for his master’s degree and then spent 15 to 20 years, he says, working in the States in the field of telecommunications. See our O Timeline for some details.

Mark rather slickly avoids addressing questions about why Barack didn’t financially help his struggling family members, such as Zeituni (who lived in the projects in Boston) and George (who lived in a tin shack in Nairobi).  Mark responds that Barack paid for the extended family to fly to the 2009 Inauguration, as if that’s comparable to helping them on a day-to-day basis.

Mark addresses the curious claim that Barack made, when he falsely stated that he and Mark had met for the first time only a few years ago.  Mark can’t explain the discrepancy, other than to suggest that Barry rather hypocritically distances himself from all things “Kenya”, for political reasons, and this is the fault of his advisors.

In the second video, the interviewer asks whether Mark knows Malik. He brings up the anti-Israel scarf that Malik was shown wearing recently. Mark says he speaks only for himself, but he believes that Malik was “made to wear” the “controversial neckband” and that it was “ill judged” and was “something that should not have happened.” Obama spin if I ever heard it!

Mark believes that Barack has done an “exemplary job” in supporting Israel. Mark says that his own mother is Jewish and he’s “extremely proud” of that.  He refers to himself as a “secular Jew”; Jewish, because his mother is Jewish.  By so saying, Mark implies that he’s not a “practicing Jew.”

Mark reiterates that he won’t talk about politics, and laughs when asked if a white Republican could have been elected if he had the “pot-smoking” and drug using history that Barack has.  Mark won’t give his opinion about media bias with regard to favoritism towards black or Democrat candidates.  He believes that there was “a lot of scrutiny of Barack” but that Barack’s books still have factual problems that need to be clarified.

Mark was asked if Barack was born in Hawaii. He answers that

(1) Barack was born “in the United States, ”

(2) Barack is “not Muslim, ” and

(3) “we have the same dad.”

Read the article and watch the videos.  Let us know what other curiosities you notice.  To regular readers: Does the photo at the top of this post remind you of another photo?

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h/t alfy (and Papoose, too)

380 responses to “Obama Mystery Theater: Mark Ndesandjo Speaks

  1. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/03/screw-you-hollywood-another-insane-thriller-non-stop-makes-9-11-family-member-us-military-the-terrorists/

    This stuff makes me SO ANGRY that I want to spit. Don’t waste your money going to see this drivel. I like Liam Neeson, or thought I did, although he’s probably like the rest in Hollywood–hating the USA and brain-washed. Anyway, read it and weep about the new Liam Neeson “thriller” about a plane and possible terror attack:

    “It turns out that the villain is not a hijacker but a terrorist — someone who wants to murder everyone on the plane to further a political goal.
    You ready…?

    The terrorist is a 9/11 family member. Yes, you read that right; the terrorist is a 9/11 family-member who lost a loved-one in the World Trade Center on that terrible September morning.
    It gets worse…

    After 9/11, this 9/11 family member-turned-terrorist then joined the military but found himself disillusioned by the pointless wars.
    And now…

    The 9/11 family member-turned-terrorist is upset because America hasn’t done enough to ensure there will never be another 9/11. And so he figures that if he can get an air marshal blamed for a terrorist attack, America will wake up and anally probe us before we’re allowed on a plane, or something.
    It gets worse…

    The villain’s sidekick is a member of the American military willing to murder 150 innocent people for a payday.
    It gets worse

    The one passenger on the plane who is forever helpful, kind, reasonable, noble, and never under suspicion is a Muslim doctor dressed in traditional Muslim garb including a full beard.

    Screw you, Hollywood
    .”

    LET ME REPEAT THAT FOR THEM: SCREW YOU, HOLLYWOOD.

    • I am so sick to death of these so called beautiful people. I scan the Daily Mail just to see who is getting knocked off their pedestal. I hope the Oscars are flooded out and they walk a muddy red carpet. Nothing but selfish ‘skanks’ where I come from. Hypocrites.

      • Oh, Papoose. SKANKS is a great word for them. They would literally make my skin crawl if I came within ten feet of some of them.

        • I really hate that word but its defining. Typing it wasn’t as distasteful as uttering it. Glad it didn’t have to come out of my mouth.

          They are responsible for the anti-American propaganda and the decay of civilization. Plastic People. Health food nuts filled with botulism and fake body parts. GALL! Muslamic money is probably their bread and butter.

      • It’s like so IN OUR FACES, isn’t it? This movie is a FRENCH/American production with a Spanish director. I don’t know what the writers are, but they should be ASHAMED.

        WE get ruthlessly and horribly attacked, with 3000 people murdered in cold blood and THEN we have to put up with this. They make movies and turn the VICTIMS and OUR BRAVE TROOPS into the villains. A VICTIM of 9/11 who’s also a member of the military becomes the terrorist. And then, to be even more in our faces, they have to make a MUSLIM the “victim” by having him be the kinder, gentler one that all those RACIST, BIGOTED, and “Islamophobic” Americans stereotype and falsely blame.

        • People are crazy for spending their money for such crap and that includes the Sports industry, as well. They’ll soon go belly up because people are scrounging for change to put gas in their cars just to get to work these days. I wish to Heaven the Tea Party would call for a naionwide boycott. We need an “awareness” program since that’s all we hear about everything else under the sun, including the sun.

          • We need a groundswell of people doing what they know they ought, which is simply refuse to do business with any of these corrupt people. I know that we love football, but at this point, after they threatened to pull the Super Bowl from AZ if the people there wouldn’t knuckle under and do what the NFL tells them to do, then I’ve about had it with football. More power to all the people who plan to sue the hell out of them for concussions. Put football out of business. Live by the progressive sword, die by it. Let the trial lawyers have at them! Let Big Nanny Mooch out. Cry havoc! And let slip the DOGS of the nanny state.

  2. And then, of course, they will CHEAT! http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/02/28/the-senate-7-the-races-that-will-determine-2014-control

    “A closer look at the most competitive contests demonstrates why a Senate majority in 2014 is again no slam dunk for a Republican Party that remains at war with itself.”

    It’s just the beginning of the spin that is NECESSARY to make the predetermined (by CHEATING AND VOTER FRAUD) result SEEM realistic.

  3. If anyone can catch up with Judge Jeanine’s rant tonight, please do.

    Truth and Courage

  4. From >>> January 28, 2011

    Kevin DuJan:

    “This is the most shocking thing you will watch today.
    Guaranteed.
    The best part is to listen to the people in the crowd gasp, repeatedly, all throughout.
    Even the black community keeps asking “WHO IS THIS MAN, REALLY?”.
    The mysteries with him never end.”

    [go to link for video]

    http://hillbuzz.org/great-merciful-zeus-have-you-seen-the-forensic-video-comparing-obamas-physical-features-to-malcom-littlemalcom-x

    • Can’t help but wonder why all this is being revisited, now.

      Smoke? Fire? Soebarky prefers this narrative?

      CCP is on to them and they know it?

      Kevin is from Chicago… is the NOI leaking the old story.

      Thanks, GORDO.

      CW is on it, too. Interesting, to say the very least.

    • No matter how many times I watch this video, I still get chills.

      Malia, especially.

      • This one’s more recent, Feb 2014

        Phil Valentine- “More Proof Barack Obama is Malcolm X son”

        • If it’s true, it would be “earth shattering,” wouldn’t it? I have read this theory over and over and I don’t buy it yet, unless Mark’s his, too. So it comes down to which set of “spooks” do we believe. Shrimpton said somewhere that the CIA put out both the FMD and the MX theories, to throw people off and to distract from investigations. (Both of them, like it or not, were U.S. citizens. Shrimpton at least implies that the mother is not.) Shrimpton also said that Barry’s dad is the one he claims but his mother isn’t. IMHO, whoever is Barry’s dad is also Mark’s. They are more alike than Barry is similar to MX. They may have the same mother, too, according to what Shrimpton HAS said. He said that Auma is his full sister, not his half-sister (but I can’t see this. She’s so dark and so “African” and both Barry and Mark are obviously mixed race, imho. So that’s a strike against Shrimpton.) Shrimpton said only that DNA didn’t match between SAD’s parents and Barry, meaning he’s not SAD’s (or, as I said, not MADELYN’S grandson. If she adopted SAD, then SAD could still be Barry’s mom, just not Madelyn’s biological daughter. Does SAD look like either Madelyn or Stanley? Where did SAD get the kinky hair?)

          • http://science-beta.slashdot.org/story/12/10/29/0241252/designing-dna-specific-bio-weapons

            “Navy stewards gather bedsheets, drinking glasses, and other objects the president has touched—they are later sanitized or destroyed—in an effort to keep would-be malefactors from obtaining his genetic material.”

            Malefactors? It all depends upon what the meaning of malefactors is, I suppose. Birthers, is probably what they mean.

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            SAD resembles her father too much to have been adopted. Unless, she’s another *woman’s* child. Then again, we can speculate until the cows come home. As someone mentioned upthread, a secret this big cannot be kept a secret. Let’s just pray the Cold Case Posse literally has to goods and doesn’t end up a cold case.

            • I know. On second thought, I think she does resemble him AND she certainly resembles his half-sister Virginia. Stan’s hair wasn’t very curly, but I suppose he could be the source of Ann’s waves. We really can’t go too much by looks. I have relatives who look exactly like their mothers and nothing like their fathers, and vice versa. It’s funny, too, how sometimes a trait you’d think is dominant (like dark hair) ends up not being so dominant, with kids being born blond. It’s those pesky recessive genes.

    • GORDO, I see at CW’s you have a comment that follows mine.

      Not sure if you were “answering” me or just dropping the links as I am well aware of who the purported Grandparents are.

      My question about the DNA is with respect to Stan the Man. he passed in the early 90s – 1992 … so my question is though I can see someone being able to swipe Madelyn’s glass to collect DNA, when would they have been able to get POP’s?

    • A very good article!

      …For six years Jarrett and this administration have flouted the law; treated patriotic, taxpaying Americans as domestic terrorists; targeted conservative groups as enemies of the State; put more people on government welfare; bribed states in order to indoctrinate our kids with anti-American, anti-capitalism propaganda; set up operations to take away our guns; left Americans to die while they watched; and tried to shut down freedom of speech by calling people “racist” and “right wing extremists.”…

  5. just what’s needed…an OUT-side-er.. with INSIDE-dirt… shall we say

  6. Can’t write nor read CURSIVE any longer….LET’S make it COOLER 4 them… Will BRING OUR MESSAGE “2 THEM”…. LET’s do MOVIES …
    bow down & let them all off the HOOK? … since “”WE REALLY NEED””
    them “”2 SEE THIS””.. So what IF someone does NOT WANT 2 SEE IT?

    (IT’s someone’s MOVIE!!!!!) are you NUTS??? …. who’s movie???

    “THINK ABOUT”…..Showing it at the…. “PUBLIC LIBRARY”…. PERFECT!
    or SHOW YOUR School “I D” & get in “FREE at any Theater” any time!
    I say … WTPOTUS….need to “wake up” 2 the fast moving TRAIN…..
    coming from LEFT>>> FIELD<<< PLEASE….slow yourselves DOWN!

    http://newsone.com/2911829/12-years-a-slave-public-high-school-curriculum/

  7. Talk about In Your Face.

    We “talked” about this before but let’s hear what what we were saying.

    TREASON

    • At first I was sickened by seeing this photo again and then came to the part where he drew the foot on and I’m sorry but I had to laugh. It IS truly laughable. We’re supposed to believe this and everything this guy says is SO TRUE. I mean, use your brain and look past the obvious bogus attempt at horrifying us so we DON’T use our brains and really SEE what this is. As he made me look closer, I had just come to realize that that bone is way too long, and then he drew on the foot.

  8. General P. Malaise

    he called himself a secular Jew because his mother was Jewish. but he is also a muslim because his father is a muslim. can’t have it both ways now can we?

  9. This creative stuff, artsy fartsy stuff i do know a little bit. Of course I have several books called Drawing from the RIGHT side of the Brain…not left…..if you are left handed it is not the left brain hemisphere that is more engaged…it’s the opposite brain , so Right Brain…that’s why some say left handed people tend to be more creative in some way or another……….it can even be in ways other than creativivity…like speaking beautifully, interpreting things in a more intuitive way…..on and on i could go, but this does not mean that youone cannot be creative any other way…it’s when people can use both sides well, which usually requires training both hemispheres of the brain so that one side is not always dominant…..but it is a natural phenomena that we all tend to use one side more than the other just like one hand is larger than the other, or one eye is dominant and so on. ok, enough I’m sure….but anyway ..if you look up to the left it is thought you are using more the right brain..thus the creative or imaginary side more so…you are not drawing from memory entirely..but possibly creating a fiction. There…whew!!!!

    • I have that book, too, alfy. The confusion lies in that one of those links I gave yesterday talks about which direction the person looks from the perspective of the viewer. So if the viewer sees the person looking to the left, the person is looking to his OWN right. It also depends upon what kind of question it is. Visualizing something or remembering words. A script. That’s GENERALLY controlled by the left side of the brain. But then, again, a lot of this is now disputed. http://psychology.about.com/od/cognitivepsychology/a/left-brain-right-brain.htm Still, it’s kind of fun to consider. One thing for sure: he pauses too much for a person who’s answering what SHOULD BE a very simple question. He’s worrying about not saying anything that might hurt Barry. He KNOWS the truth; he’s just not saying.

      • Agree miri. Wish some interviewer would ask them all about their cherished brother David and Joseph, the other MIXED RaCe guys that Mark left out of his “story”. Don’t you. or ask him where exactly he went to primary and high school….the actuall names of these institutions , or why he was at Stanford in the mid eighties and was still there in the mid to late 90’s again. maybe he could tell us about Malik and Auma living with he , David and Ruth, since Obama’s book told a different story.

        • Too bad we’re not doing the questioning, but I suppose, as usual, some questions are “off limits” from the get go. I’d like to know why some stories say he was only in Kenya for 7 years of his early life. Yep. Where did he go to elementary and high school?

    • Hmmm, I found an LLC started in Fla. in 2002 by Mark, I think. Gotta get back to that page somehow.

      • THat Ndesandjo Enterprises LLc is no longer active. It’s address was 119Reading way, Winter Paek, Florida (from memory) Winter Park iright next door to Orlando, which is the precinct area that Mark voted in and his voting registration shows him still active, and it shows and address in China, so that means he must have vated via Absentee voting.

  10. Jael, ….George’s mother was to marry BH Sr before his death photo
    at bottom of the page.

    http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/SeniorsWomen.htm

  11. @ Research Comments (very top of this page on the right…)
    …by Troy10/4/2012… BO Sr Brother … Sheikh Samir…

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/obamas-uncle-flies-in-for-horse-show-as-guest-of-sheikh-26556509.html

  12. who is kSaid, wouldn’t it be sayd? ANd wouldn’t that be Kogelo not Kongelo? Is this real?

    • Yes, aka Sayid. Those sheiks do love their horses, don’t they? How nice for Sayid. He, like Mooch, probably needed a vacation. I wonder if Barry’s Irish relatives would hanker for a visit by “Uncle Sayid”?

      Like Barry does whilst in Hawaii, Sayid has the “use” of a lovely home over there on the old sod, owned by a rich and powerful “friend”. Like Barry, too, Sayid is “elegant”. OMG. How they do kowtow to these people. And how is this possible?

      “‘Mama’ Sarah is Said’s mother and Barack’s grandmother; they are the president’s closest blood relatives in Africa.”

      Is Kezia in ANY WAY related to Sarah? That’s the only way I can conceive of them being BLOOD kin. BHO Sr. is Sarah’s STEPSON. SAD, of course, is no blood kin to Sarah.

      The story says Sayid is 5 years younger than Barry but also says he’s 43. Hmmmm. That would make Barry about MARK’S age.

      “”Barack first visited us in Kongelo in 1987, I think he was 25 at the time and had just graduated and I took him to where his father was buried,” he said.”

  13. I’m sure we have this….BUTT’…. here we go again good old stuff

    http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/senior.htm

    • Would be more believable if the person, as a good genealogist should, would post sources, like links to ORIGINAL documentation, such as census records, birth records, etc. That’s how genealogy is done. NOT via oral history, which we KNOW is subject to distortion, corruption, “misremembering”, and constructive memory.

  14. ….. A real TREE

    • A real WEIRD tree. Doesn’t that have Barack jr coming from the branch with Ruth “Nidesand”? It looks like Stanley Ann’s only child is Maya, with Lolo.
      Is it supposed to be symbolic that the African side of the tree is the “Roots”?

    • He looks as if he’s channeling the Carnac the Magnificent. NLP and subliminal symbolic messaging.

      • I just lost my reply, dang it! Carnac the Mag. I had forgotten about him, so funny….anyway I wrote a long thing about Joseph and Dora’s Hubzone business…that’s how they are doing business but check this out. I just thought about yesterday after watching the 3 hour long first IRS hearing and lots of that discussion was in reference to HUBzone companies that had contracted with IRS for these gov. jobs. The companies were being excoriated over barely being qualified, ect., so I thought about Dora and Joseph….I checked and aren’t in the hubzone…and I thought maybe their employees could be from Hubzone areas, but it looks unlikely too, as they look to be far away from any HZ. Shouldn’t somebody report them to Mr. Issa. Joseph has gotten all manor of awards as a small bussiness operator. His company did $500 thousand-$1million dollars per year by his fifth year in operation. no telling what he gets now. I see where he has procured huge gov. contracts with the defense department….Shouldn’t some one tell Issa it ain’t fair.

        • I forgot to post you this….its from the Hubzone map of San Antonio. See! san antonio had the larger number of hubzones when it first began back in 1999 and a representative Ciro d. Rodrizues,democrat of san antonio worked to ensure this laws passage. As of about 2003 Hub zone areas had recieved over 6 Billion dollars in gov. contracts.http://map.sba.gov/hubzone/maps/

          • so sorry, I thought I was sending you what I found….you’ll only have to put in the address for 3sixty….which is this….11950 starcrest drive ,san antonio, texax zip is 78247. Please do it you’ll get a good honest answer……you can also click and click on the map of the san antonio area till the counties come up….and you can see by the keyguide on the right of the screen that this area of sanantonio is no where near a Hubzone…..DO IT pronto…..just kidding.

  15. No …this one …Is it DAVID???

    • That is so danged telling. He even DANCES lamely, like Barry does. How is it possible for him to SO resemble a man who’s no blood relation to him?

    • no silly zen, that’s Joseph and that’s also Dora his wife….they work with a nonprofit foundation called PIDE likely this was on one of their “philanthropic tours in africa” Aren’t they all so sweet????

  16. Wedding bells… alfy… I know who they tellME Joseph is…. BUTT’
    I don’t believe ZERO of it & so what if I’m wrong…”bear” withme!
    he’s cute and looks like the photo of little LOST David that’ all… I’m
    sure we have more… in our files….

    http://www.texasmarriagerecords.org/marriage-of-joseph-ndesandjo-and-dora-zepeda.html

  17. This is from a fairly recent article (2010) on 3Sixty and Joseph:
    “Ndesandjo also has a connection to President Barack Obama. His mother was once married to Obama’s father and they share a half-brother. He first met Obama when he was 5 when the future president came to visit his father. He also met him several times during the presidential campaign and at the inauguration.” http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/stories/2010/08/09/smallb1.html

    Just including it for timeline comparisons, although I don’t know if we have a definitive dob for Joseph? For the record, I think Joseph is pretty much an innocent bystander, but who knows.
    Note: From entries in public records databases (via ancestry) his birthday was in Nov, 1979. So that would make his first meeting with Barack either Nov/Dec 1984 or in 1985.
    One has to think the part that says “when the future president came to visit his father” is just sloppy journalism? Did BHO visit Simeon? Or was he visiting his own father, who was dead at the time?

    • Note: I do remember the scene where he was visiting Ruth and the stepfather was bouncing little Joey on his knee…but it seemed odd to make it sound like he was there to see “his father”. Probably not an important detail.

    • SEO, i think this person is a key in the one of the doors behind the doors.

      I beieve he remains under the radar because that’s his business.

      He is “underground” and in every nook and cranny on an internationa scale. imho… ~ very much appreciate reading your posts today.

    • They share “A half brother?” Malik, Abo (Samson), Bernard, David, George … Nevermind, I thought the story was about Mark, not Joseph. Just another bunch of discrepancies. Was Barry there to visit Simeon? Joseph is no blood relation to Barry, but don’t they share TWO half-brothers, Mark and DAVID? Oh, yeah. David is supposed to be dead. This is making my head spin again.

      So another date for Barry’s visit to Kenya–Nov. ’84 through Nov. ’85. Anywhere in there. Thanks for finding this. Great work. I don’t remember if we’ve seen this one before, but I’ve updated the O Timeline about the Kenya trip.

      Sure, there’s always sloppy reporting. It’s a habit whenever they cover the Obamas.

      He came to the US to attend school, but the story doesn’t mention what school. Just tells us he went to Trinity, but did he go elsewhere before that?

      So Joey is a tennis aficionado, too. Just like his brother Richard. Oh, wait. Maybe Joey was just using the name Richard for a while. Seems to be a family trait, if so. Having multiple names.

      I could be an “entrepreneur”, too, if I had a way to tap into millions if not billions of other people’s money by virtue of being a connected guy. He and his wife did it all themselves, though.

      • well keep your head spinning…..I traced the 57317 mail box number for Richard n. someone posted yesterday (SEO ?). It traced to Simeon in a Kenyan phone directory….I could hardly read it and there was more, but it was very blurry.. In the phone directory there was a Maureen Ndesandjo just above Simeon’s name. I used the name Richard and got this, but I also got an outdated company for that address of P.O> BOx 57317 and it was a Transworld Conveyors Company ltd. on Moktar Daddah Street in Nairobi. I’m thinking that company may have been S. Ndesandjo’s co….. Now Simeon has that as his phone number, which is quite common for that to be a box number too in Kenya. And Richard pulls up listed in Houston as of an updated (the site said it was) address search. THe university listed for Richard, the William Marsh Rice U. in Houston is considered one of the hardest of all private Universities to get into. Only top grad students, and $33,ooo.oo a yr. ……..I’ll just remind you too that it was Cornell U. where we first EVER found Richard.
        I think one reason we never hear anyone mention Richard as being part of the family (yet he is associated with Simeon), is because none of these children of the Ndesandjo family are really Ruth’s. Ruth was able to use Richard’s name in Kenya for that mag. article, but when she’s in Us. it’s Joseph and Mark. They arn’t all her children. She’s lying. I think Simeon who it says in Kenya Gazette passed away at Peponi Westlands. I don’t know if that means he pssed. away at his home or a hospital, but most the time the person who died is listed as passing away at a particular hospital i.e. He’s not listed that way. I think he lived near Ruth, possibly owned the land that Ruth was given possession of. She is associated with some important educational people…like the Ndisi’s who gained huge amounts of land during Kenyatta’s time, and of Course Simeon was probably wealthy as well….an entrepenuer of sorts….as Malik says in his book Simeon traveled doing various bussinesses. He was a business man living in kenya, but with trading interests, but made occasional trips to Europe, Asia,UsA, and Latin America. He died 2011.

        • http://www.anza.co.ke/business-directory/67-couriers/2912-ems-speedpost-sarit-center-westlands
          this is where Ruth gets her mail, yet in kenya Gazette when she comes with Simeon to get a new land provisional certificate she comes only appearing to be Simeons’ wife at the same address. i have found Ruth’s address as box 20342 with Simeon and also 43o42, sort of weird. i think she uses whatever works at the time.

          • Hey remember one time I found a Mack Ndesandjo at Simeon’s address???? Well, it just dawned on me…..Richard’s middle intiial is M. …Could Mack be the middle name or a nickname for his middle name????????

        • Thanks, alfy! I thought about looking to see if we’ve seen that P.O. Box number before and then it slipped my mind.

          • I just found a Kenya Gazette posting also, using that same Post Office box number used by Richard, as Ruth’s. It is in reference to property owned by the Ndisi family, as referenced by alfy above.
            http://books.google.com/books?id=Nza4Z6f7p_sC&pg=PA1746&dq=P.O.+BOx+57317,+Nairobi,+Kenya&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dvA6U8axEKT4yQG47YCoBQ&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=P.O.%20BOx%2057317%2C%20Nairobi%2C%20Kenya&f=false

            Page down to Cause No. 5473; Miri maybe you know how to copy the text to post it? I don’t.

            • SEO, here we are again! We talked about this here and it’s rather amazing: https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/10/06/spinning-out-a-story-about-simeon-ndesandjo-ruth-obamas-second-husband/comment-page-1/#comment-64004

              “(Me) Trying to get this straight:
              Berit and John are the parents. Berit and Ruth were/are close friends. Anna Margareta, who married a von Hohenberg is the daughter of Berit and John. Who are Berit’s parents? Who are John’s parents? Have you found that yet?

              Is Johan Ndisi, the Swedish ambassador, the child of any of the above? What’s his ancestry, if you know? …

              (Renee) Margareta Ndisi married Ernst Prinz von Hohenberg, son of Ernst Prinz von Hohenberg and Marie-Thérèse Wood, on 15 September 2007 at Falun, Sweden. …

              (alfy) Meshack(or Mishack) ayako okelo Ndisi in 1962 was named as new Senior Labor Officer in Office of home affairs . In 1966 he’s to be the permanent Secretary Minister of Labor……Tom Mboya would have known him. I would think O. Sr. too. …

              (Renee) Anna Margareta Ndis
              * Osthammar 26.11 . 1959 * Osthammar 26.11 . 1959
              Eltern Eltern
              Vater: John Ouko Ndisi * 12.01.1932 Vater: John Ouko Ndis * 12.01.1932
              Mutter: Berit Margareta Karman * 30.08.1938 Mother: Margareta Berit Karman * 30.08.1938
              Heiraten Heiraten Falun, Schweden 15.09 . 2007 Falun, Schweden 15.09 . 2007
              Ernst, Prinz von Hohenberg * 01.03.1944 Ernst Prinz von Hohenberg * 01.03.1944 …”

              Keep reading and you’ll get to Mack Ndesandjo, whom alfy referenced the other day. I’m thinking about how other stories said that Ruth’s second husband was a FRIEND of her first husband. Could his name have been Ndisi, modified to Ndesandjo?

          • Also, in that story in which Richard is mentioned as the “ri” in Madari (which I can no longer find online), it says Ruth was “already a grandmother”; To my recollection neither Mark nor Joseph had children at that time (or now, as far as I know), right?

          • Correction: Cause 1550, Notice Number 5473

          • SEO, I also remember the comment about Ruth loving being a grandmother when she supposedly, at that time, would not have had any grandchildren. Here’s another thing I need answered and can’t remember if we know it already: When did Ida, Ruth’s mother, pass away, if anyone knows?

          • I guess if we just keep recycling this information we’re bound to find something new once in a while, eh?? 🙂
            So, I find a Margareta Anna Ndisi marrying a Hubert Geza Wells (yeah, I know, HG Wells 🙂 in Nevada in 1997. The Nevada marriage records don’t give ages, so I don’t know where, if at all, she fits in.

            Who’s Who in East Africa lists Simeon as early as their 1965 issue, so he was a big deal already in his late 20s.

            • Hey. It pays to go back and look again because then sometimes something stands out that didn’t before and, also, I keep hoping another piece of the jigsaw puzzle will fall into place. Is it coincidence that Ndisi and Ndesandjo are so similar? My post about Simeon does show that he goes way back in the records under that name: Simeon Ndesandjo. He’s supposedly Tanzanian but Luo, too?

          • I knew something was nagging at me. Who’s Who lists Simeon as born in 1936, in NAIROBI. Where did the Tanzania angle come from?

            • Hmmm. 1936, now that’s the alternate birth year for BHO Sr. They were supposedly friends before BHO Sr. divorced Ruth and she married Simeon. Friends from school, perhaps? Or some kind of work?

  18. I vaguely remember searching this before, so probably just a reminder
    Texas unclaimed funds website search:
    Select

    Last Name

    First Name

    Last Known Address

    City

    NDESANDJO JOESEPH 7123 NORMAN LANE SAN ANTONIO
    NDESANDJO JOSEPH 19950 STARCREST STE 207B SAN ANTONIO
    NDESANDJO JOSEPH K 9026 BURNT PEAK HELOTES
    NDESANDJO RICD P O BOX 57317 NAIROBI
    NDESANDJO RICHARD 6100 SOUTH MAIN STREET HOUSTON
    NDESANDJO RICHARD 6100 S MAIN HOUSTON
    NDESANDJO RICHARD PO BOX 57317 NAIROBI
    NDESANDJO RICHARD PO BOX 57317 NAIROBI
    NDESANDJO RICHARD M 6350 S MAIN ST HOUSTON
    9 items found, displaying all items.

    • Thanks. Seems to be two separate individuals. No shared addresses. Relatives? Or just two guys with a very unusual name, from the same city, who happen to end up in the USA, in the same state, and both play tennis?

  19. Damn , think someone’s trying to sabatoge me. Everytime I write something important, it gets lost.
    I was saying this..Shucks…it was kind of long but hear me out. I may have to write this in excerps so It doesn’t get missing again.
    John(Johan) Nidis was part of a group that Kenyans knew had aquired huge amounts of land, in a nefarious fashion during the days of Kenyatta. I imagine, he being an ambassador it’s likely the area known as westlands in Nairobi ,where most the ex-patriouts and the very wealthy, such as embassados ect. lived. THis is the same area around riverside drive, which is where Ndesandjo had a recording studio. Steven Ndesandjo also recorded too….he is shown as a producer on some old kenyan records. Somewhere I have a long article of the folks with Ndisi included, of all the people who got great amounts of land during Kenyatta’s time and some also during Moi’s time too. Now I’ll send another post for the rest.

    • Now, if you check in the Gazette there, anwhere you choose, all the estate properties by law need to show who the different parties involved with the estate, thus you see Margareta as the widow, and Ruth a friend by description. Now, Ruth is never mentioned in reference to Ndesandjo’s estate as the Widow of Simeon and she’s also not the divorced widow of Simeion, she is just shown along with another person (a lawyer) as executor to Simeon’s properties (estate). I keep telling ya’ll she was not legally a wife of Simeon. . I say Ruth befriended some very wealthy prople in N

      • I see what you’re saying, but if they were no longer related by marriage, but she was still in the will, are you sure it would still have to say “widow” or divorced widow?

        • It’s not a matter of “if they were no longer related by marriage’ if they never were husband and wife to begin with. So she is never listed as widow or wife of Simeon in her legal docs. If anyone goes back to her first interview, I can’t remember for sure, but her wording of who left her the property of Madari kindergarten is a little bit insinuating. We have always assumed Simeon as her husband till suddenly he became her husband. Well, maybe not suddenly but I think for story purposes she needed him to be a husband and wMark needed a last name too. I figure they’ve used this name for all sorts of purposes for many years when it suited the purpose. THat’s why I think sometimes she was Nides , Nidesand, and of course now Baker.
          Find the one and only main interview of Ruth’s see what she says about the Tanzanian left her the Kindergarten. Maybe when Simeon died is when she actually took full possession of that property legally. I don’t know exactly. Also many people came to Nairobi, especially after independence, and some before due to their own country’s strife and new leadership…..they couldn’t make a living where they were…like some of the other folks in the music industry had come from various places ,like the congo and Tanzania. Some of the men that worked with Colmore weren’t originally from Kenya either. Some met Colmore during the service WW11.

          • Alfy, that was kind of my point…well, more a question. I’m trying to figure out what your evidence is that they were never married?
            My question was more to the point of IF they were never married, or IF they had been divorced and he then died, would the entries in the legal documents necessarily have been different.
            In either case, is it possible that their marital status (or non-status) wouldn’t be mentioned at all?

    • SEO, just saw where you said the Who’s Who in Africa shows Ndesandjo 1965 and he was already moving in circle with people of the 20’s . Thanks, like I just said , I think he had to be in his 80’s when he died in 2011. You sort of helped solidify that. I’ll check out The Who’s Who when I find it again. I never read, saw it but didn’t check it out.

      • I think in that Who’s who it says he was born in 1936? I thought I saw it somewhere “reliable”, that is not internet generated.

        • So is this Who’s Who online or what?

          • There are a few issues in the google archives; I just found them by searching for Simeon, just like the Gazettes, and limiting the search to books. I think I saw a 1963, 65 and 67 issue and Simeon was in at least the ’65 and ’67 ones.
            I thought by 67 BHO Sr. might be a big enough deal to be included, but not a thing comes up searching Obama. That’s when I tried “barrack” and “barack” and found the reference I posted above to Barrack Osare. I threw it on here because I thought it might lead to something, but also because I was in the middle of searches and didn’t want to lose it 🙂
            Osare is mentioned by Malik in his book as one of the founding students at Maseno school (Moseno??) where BHO sr was educated.

  20. O. K. couldn’t see what I am writing again…….I was saying you can check for yourself in the Gazette all the folks listed as a widow when they are one, of the husband. ANd by the way, Google controls the Kenya Gazette archives (google books) so you can’t usually print anything from it, but I have taken screen shots and blown it up in my drawing program and then printed it, or then you could copy and post probably…..Where was I,….I say Ruth befriended these wealthy people…Margareta and her husband John Ouko Ndisi was also building a school when he had come back from somewhere. I don’t know what the name of it was or if he finished it….Who knows It could be He and Simeon owned that property together that Ruth’s school is on. Margareta and John were involved in education to some degree. I think somewhow it was or is to Ruth’s benefit that she knew both Simeon and the Ndisi’s,….maybe to aquire this property. We don’t know what type citizenship Ruth has…she has been called an Ex-Patriot, but that has more than one meaning. It’s likely she could have dual citizenship, but seems to me that status has changed in kenya. I think Ruth used cover as Ndesandjo’s wife and none of these kids are really hers….they could have lived with her at some point,but I think they are some relatives of Simeons if even that. The kids could be orphans for all we know of with some very wealthy donors. I mean you don’t send Richard to the expensive schools he’s been to , or Joseph the minority status kid in Texas who has contracts with the US Defense department, and Mark who flies all over the place when ever it suits him , goes to Stanford and Brown, and has several restaurants; you don’t do that with a teacher’s salary, even if you run the school. From the looks of it , also, I am just guessing, but I expect Simeon was quite old as all the folks he knew back in the day were people born in early 1920’s and some even before. Looks can be decieving can’t they….that one photo in a newpaper of Ndesandjo….blow it up……He has a double nose. We’ll never know if that photo was worked on a bit. The main point is Ruth WAS NOT the wife of Simeon Ndesandjo. THat’s Ruth NIDES, NIDESAND, NDESANDJO, not Baker. That was just a story to satisfy the narrative better. Still is the last book I came across from a Kenyan diplomat…”a diary of a Kenyan legislator” by Joe Kamisi, who says he knew Barack Sr., says his second wife was Ruth Nidesand. Hmmm????? He called her an American born educationalist.

    • ANd , by the way Ruth has more than one address where she gets her mail….at the Safrit Center post office, where she can get her mail more securely . That’s some four story shopping plaza. Not only did Simeon, Ruth and Richard have that Box #57317, so did Mack Ndesandjo. I suppose at some point Ruth will tell someone about that son too, unless Mack is Richard Mack Ndesandjo. I’ll tell ya where Ruth’s grandchildren are….and she also had one that died too of cancer at a young age.

    • I don’t think the kids are “hers” either, not biologically, anyway. Perhaps adopted. There was the one odd story about how only Mark inherited because only he was considered legitimate, which is very odd, considering that David was still alive and was allegedly BHO Sr.’s son. Check out the topics that are supposed to be covered/explained in Mark’s new book: http://www.markobamandesandjo.com/article1.asp?a_id=13

      “There is a lot in my memoir that explains this and similar questions:

      Why I feel my brother often does not accept me
      Why Michelle called me the wayward one
      Why I felt Barack did not want me to discuss domestic violence in our family with others
      My father’s secret life in America
      My mother and father’s love story
      How Barack and I met for the first time in 1988 and why he denied it in an interview two years ago
      My love story in China
      How my wife and a dream made me link up again with my brother after 25 years
      Barack’s book has many mistakes and what they are
      The Obama family tree from 1700
      How I loved skydiving and crashing cars
      I was a bad student, suffered great pain at Stanford and treated women badly
      How my stepfather gave me my name, who he was and why I loved him so much
      How the myth that I have BBQ restaurants (I do not) started
      Why my mother was almost killed by her husband
      What is the relationship between the 4 brothers and 1 sister and my late brother David.
      The First Inauguration
      What did Barack really say and think about China
      My visit to Israel as a Jew
      The White House from the inside.”

      Also consider the gems in that story.

    • alfy, now Mark is denying that he had any barbecue restaurants!

  21. Here’s another important fact to remember when referring To Richard ndesandjo. Seeing as Miri headed this particular page with the actual words of someone who should know MARK, we should take heed of Marks famous words, that “He and Obama are the only half white half black one in the family…..SO…..Richard’s mother Is NOT Ruth. At least Mark doesn’t know it if he is. Webs of d deciet are always fille d with litter, and webs gett broken too…guess they’ll have to rebuild their lying webb of deception some more, but I say iti’s time we just let them know we’re on to them instead of trying to read between they’re everylilne and wonder what is truee. just call them all lyers, which is putting it nice. Decieving the whole world is not nice, it’s despicable, treasonous, ruinous scumbag bad. I only hope they don’t get the last laugh, our republic is fragile.

    • BUTT Richard isn’t officially in the story. It’s just that we know he is. Maybe I’m losing my mind, though, which is likely. When Ruth said she named the school after her kids MArk-DAvid-RI, did she say RICHARD? Good catch, though. Either Richard’s her stepson via Ndesandjo and he has a black mother, too, or he’s not Mark’s brother but is SOME relative of some kind.

      • yes, Ruth claimed Richard (and he’s got a matching P.O. Box number 57317 with Ruth and Simeon. As many half brothers there are floating around why not mention Richard who’s shown to be at that address at sometime, They bring up dead David more than anybody else, so why not Richard. ruth is the one who says Richard is a son, if so he’d be half white…a is all I’m saying , but we have Mark as saying he and Barack are the only black/white dudes. I’m just trying to show the desparity in their own dialogue, not mine…and not some journalist’s , but their own claims. And besides, again, Joseph would be half black/ white as well.

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