Obama: Young Love (Open Thread)

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In honor of the 21st wedding anniversary of the First Couple, we reprise this story  (h/t Papoose):

A Chicago neighborhood has erected a granite boulder with a plaque as a monument to the Obamas’ first kiss. As Obama related: [emphasis added to quotes]

On our first date, I treated her to the finest ice cream Baskin-Robbins had to offer, our dinner table doubling as the curb. I kissed her, and it tasted like chocolate.

Didn’t he mean to say “the curb doubling as our dinner table?”  But I digress.

Dubbed the “Obama kissing stone“, this particular rock

joins other South Side attractions such as the fortress occupied by Elijah Muhammad, leader of the Nation of Islam, and Obama’s old barber chair, now enshrined in glass over on Blackstone Avenue.

Now there’s a neighborhood with some history behind it.  This particular fable conflicts with a campaign ad that ran during the 2012 race:

So in that version of the story, their first date was dinner (or lunch) at the Chicago Art Institute, followed by a movie, but with no mention of ice cream.

Because of this discrepancy, in June 2012, we decided to do a little fact checking on this particular “first date” story, because we’re just particular kinds of citizens who suspect everything this particular fabulous man has to say, especially about his personal history.  What did we find?

Several competing stories. Alternate story number one:

For their first date, a young law intern named Barack Obama took his future wife to a meeting he was conducting in a church basement for poor, single, mostly African American mothers—an outgrowth of his work as a community organizer on Chicago’s South Side. As Michelle Obama recalls, the purpose of this meeting was to help these mothers see that it was “the job of ordinary people in organizing” to narrow the gap between “the world as it is and the world as it should be.”

How romantic!!!  Not.

The fable upon which the Obama kissing stone is based, was discussed in 2007 in Oprah’s magazine, in a story about celebrity “firsts”.  It’s basically the same story as told at the beginning of this post, about the “chocolate kiss” on the curb.  But whatever happened to the church meeting?

But wait! In his second book [p. 330], published in 2006, Obama claimed (or whoever wrote the book for him claimed) that the couple’s first date happened when they went to the law firm picnic and then got chocolate ice cream afterwards, followed by “the kiss”.  But whatever happened to the Art Institute and the church meeting?  There’s still another variation of the story.

In that version, the couple went to the Art Institute, had lunch, saw a Spike Lee movie, and then had a drink at the John Hancock building. Whatever happened to the chocolate ice cream?  Or the church meeting?

Oddly enough, there’s no mention of the Art Institute anywhere in Obama’s second book. However, the Art Institute is mentioned in his first book, but that book says that Obama took his half-sister Auma to the Art Institute, when she came to Chicago, when they first met in 1984 (although we know that’s not true because Obama lived in NYC in 1984, when Auma claimed they first met.)

Back in August 2012, Hillbuzz rather facetiously started a grassroots campaign to have other “historically” important moments in the life of the Windy City’s windiest former resident memorialized.   Kevin DuJan explains:

My good friend Megan Fox and I have decided to launch a grassroots campaign for a series of similar “historic markers” that we think should be installed around Chicagoland, commemorating other kisses Barack Obama had with additional people in his life…people such as Larry Sinclair …

DuJan goes on to suggest other locations in Chicago for Obama historical plaques, such as Man’s Country Bathhouse in the Andersonville neighborhood and the East Bank Club in downtown Chicago, both gay hangouts with which Obama was associated during his days in Chi-town.

Other cities could get in on the action.  Honolulu should consider putting up a plaque to mark the spot where Obama watched Frank Marshall Davis sell 8-balls of coke from his hot dog stand.

There could be a plaque at the site of the bar that Obama’s grandfather took him to when Barry was just a youngster.  The bar is located in the “largely black red-light district on Smith Street, at that time located near Honolulu’s Chinatown.”

The possibilities are endless.  How about a plaque at the New York City apartment building where Obama shared a summer of love with white girlfriend Alex McNear?

There could be another plaque at 240 East 13th Street where Obama first met another white girlfriend, Genevieve Cook, at a party.

There could be a plaque at the site where Obama first met unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, if anybody can figure out when and where that happened.

Finally, of course, the most-visited plaque might be at the site of his birth, if anybody can ever figure out where that event actually happened!


largely black red-light district on Smith Street, at that time located near Honolulu’s Chinatown.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2008/10/79467/#EdHpewV4ZAWWQWpA.99

69 responses to “Obama: Young Love (Open Thread)

  1. New open thread.

  2. YEP!!!!! As “the ONE”… ~ “ROCKS” & “ROLLS” us silly …

  3. Chicago, the new North Korea?

  4. YEP!!!! and what is so special about THIS? …. SHAME ON OBAMA!


  5. president barack obama …. a lengthy Anagram… of the Century…


  6. the Total Collapse…..what do we not see….what is bru-in’ in the
    October POT ???? Are we aware of the slip & slid ???…..


    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      Zenway- it originated from WhatDoesItMean/Sorcha Faal. Not such a credible source. YMMV.

      • Hi Rosemary, xoxo. Going back through the threads this weekend I saw the video you had posted regarding smart-meters. Thank you! I greatly appreciated your thoughtfulness. I miss so many comment’s anymore because I’m just not here near as much, because of my health…just so tired all the time, bad headaches, ect. If I miss comment’s from you or anyone else directed at me, my sincere apologizes. I love and miss you all, my sister patriots, hugs.

  7. ….have not been here for a bit… Squeeky…. F


    • That’s the infuriating thing – our representatives will not come out and call it what it is – another way to rob American Taxpayers of their earnings. Instead, they use terms like “1/6th of our economy”; “close to 20% of the economy”, etc., which means diddliy. Not only did the Feds make it a law to steal our wages en masse, they are using the proceeds to enslave us.

      Everyone already knows they’ve stolen the collective wages from the “social funds”.

      Someone needs to get a huge chalkboard and draw a flow chart for WTP to see with our eyes instead of all the wordy nonsensical crapola. Yea, a chalkboard, with a graph just like the one barky used to teach his commie crap.

      And, I think the word ‘taxes’ needs to go and the bounty should be referred to as earnings or wages “moving forward”. “Taxes” is old school.
      ~ ~
      Review your paycheck and utility bills and add up every penny charged as a tax; add in your school and property taxes, if any. Now, add to it all your insurance premiums for home, auto, life, and long term care; then take the sum of your “disposable” income and multiply that by 5% and add it in.
      What do you have left? $__________ and divide by 12. How much of that will you need in order to pay your increased Obamascare insurance premiums? Okay, now you may pay your rent, bills and buy food.
      Have a nice day.

      • Still looking at your paycheck? What did you gross? Divide that by the number of days you worked. Your per diem earnings = $_________.

        Now, add up all the deductions pertaining to federal, state and local taxes, include the privilege tax deducted for the luxury of having a job in a specific township; add in social security and the unemployment tax. Tally it up. $_________ divide by your per diem earnings. How many days did you have to work for your government? _______. How many days were left to make a living? _______. Fair share is a lie and a legal rip-off.

        • I am not against paying taxes. I just believe all taxes should go to the State you live in and that Treasury should allocate funds to the Federal Government and the Municipalities. Under the present scheme, we are not sovereign. We are slaves.

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            Unfortunately, my friend, we are in dire need of a complete overhaul. Who would ever think it would have gone this badly, seemingly overnight? But we know the truth…it took decades. I assume everyone here has watched AGENDA: The Grinding Down of America.

          • The fastestway to end this nightmare is for businesses and corporations to unite and stop acting as tax agents by skimming our paychecks and giving the monies to the government.

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            Agreed. But businesses want to avoid run ins with the IRS, just as the government wants it. They want everyone in a perpetual state of fear. We REALLY are no better than Nazi Germany. I never was with the whole “make love/not war” crowd (before my generation, although many from my generation ascribe to that mindset) but we truly are a horribly violent, warring nation. The world must view us as maniacal, and under the “leadership” of Obama, a ship of fools.

            I’ll be honest, it took Obama’s reign of terror for me to realize how violent and instigating we are. I should have realized it under Bush, but I didn’t.

          • one ghetto after another. Proof. Look at the History. Pay up. Shut up.

          • You’re spot on with all that analysis. I’d hate to actually run the numbers, as you suggest. I would need some heavy-duty duct tape to keep my head from exploding.

  8. Saw this in a comment board and since I never learned of it, being a msm junkie back then, I wanted to check it out:
    “”On St.Patricks Day 2007, after a threat on the internet two weeks before, that Iraq War protestors would “tag” the Vietnam Veterans Memorial with spray paint during a protest on that day, I stood shoulder to shoulder with about 1,500 Vietnam Vets from all over the county as we literally surrounded that memorial.”

    The yahoo story from that time has been removed. Gone. But here is the archive from WaybackMachine http://web.archive.org/web/20070220184212/http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20070216/pl_usnw/veterans_to_protect_vietnam_veterans_memorial_from_protesters__rally_in_support_of_iraq_troops__mission

    From the Vets’ point of view back then, http://www.capveterans.com/national_veterans_memorials_protection/id29.html

    I never knew this happened. It gives a little more clarity on why so many vets are fighting with the administration blocking the memorials in the name of government shutdown when they are open 24/7/365 days a year open memorials and are not affected by getting no money from the shutdown. Combine this 2007 incident with documentation that almost every one of Barack’s friends prior to 2007 were socialist or communist and anti-American and domestic terrorists and it could seem like dejavu or a continuance of 2007.

    From the veteran article I gleaned a couple of things, “……International ANSWER, the communist Workers World Party front group” Now that is a very interesting search. This link is the most telling. Note the tag line. Then read the article. So much in this article that the Left is warning against THAT Obama IS. I did not copy and probably should because with the yahoo link scrubbed and the veteran link changing for some to current time/page and not the 2007 story, it would be expected for this insight to disappear as well. But why? What connection can be found that it can’t be read? http://www.infoshop.org/WWP-FAQ

    • Anyway someone can fix major typo in above? “..why so many vets are withthe administration blocking the memorial.”” should be, “………vets are fighting with the administration…..”

      • Hoot, it’s very late and I just happened to sign on looking for something else and decided too stop by real quick, and saw your comment.

        Here are few link’s from FR regarding what you are referring to above. Main reason I love FR, they are a group of some of the most patriotic people you’ll ever meet, (besides here of course) Hundred’s of freeper’s went too the Vietnam Veterans Memorial during the 2007 protest and stood shoulder to shoulder protecting the wall from the anti-American left protester’s.

        Anyway…these links should give you more information, and I know we have posted some information here on Communist International Answer —- (bad, bad, group of anti Americans), I’m sure Miri can find what has been posted here on them.

        RESOURCE LINK for March 17th: Counter ANSWER’s march from the Wall to the Pentagon
        January 31, 2007

        Wounded Iraq Vet Threatened, Spat on by ‘Antiwar’ Protesters (D.C. Chapter Report on 1/27/07)
        January 28, 2007

        Counter Protest March 17th, 2007 At the Wall
        February 01, 2007

        • Hoot, from this link I posted above –

          Counter Protest March 17th, 2007 At the Wall
          comment – 52

          Snip ~
          Leftist activists who march to the Pentagon next month will discover that their path won’t be as clear as it has been in the past.

          The group, led by Cindy Sheehan, Jane Fonda, Ed Asner and their ilk, plan to gather March 17 at the Vietnam Memorial Wall to begin a march to protest America’s involvement in the Iraq war. The date marks the fourth anniversary of the war’s beginning.
          Snip ~
          The movement is well-financed. Its sponsor list is lengthy and contains highly recognizable names, as well as those of Fonda and Sheehan:

          Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark (who offered his services to defend Saddam Hussein)

          Ultra-liberal Congresswoman Maxine Waters

          Former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney

          Ron Kovic, Vietnam veteran and author of “Born on the 4th of July”

          Mahdi Bray, executive director, Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation

          Waleed Bader, vice chair of the National Council of Arab Americans and former president of Arab Muslim American Federation

          Medea Benjamin, co-founder, CODEPINK and Global Exchange

          Free Palestine Alliance

          Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation

          Islamic Political Party of America

          FMLN (Farabundo Marti National Liberation Front)

          Islamic-National Congress

          Gay Liberation Network

          Muslim Student Association

          Jibril Hough, chairman, Islamic Political Party of America
          From above Names –

          Mahdi Bray, executive director, Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation

          Mahdi Bray

          Wright Mahdi Bray (born “Wright Bray” in 1950), a Black American convert to Islam, is a civil and human rights activist who serves as Executive Director of the Muslim American Society’s Freedom Foundation (MAS Freedom) based in Washington, DC.[2] The foundation supports Muslim activists and religious leaders who have been arrested.[3]
          Political activism

          Bray formerly was political director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC).[4][5]

          Bray has expressed support for Hamas and Hezbollah on a number of occasions.[6] A video of a rally in 2000 shows Bray pumping his fist in the air in support of the groups Hamas and Hezbollah.[7] He asserts, however, that he is not a supporter of Hamas.

          Obama concedes mistake over Muslim outreach meeting

          The Obama campaign’s Muslim outreach director participated in a meeting in mid September that was attended by several controversial Muslim activists, NBC News has learned. The Obama campaign now concedes that was a misjudgment, and that its top Muslim staffer would not have attended the meeting if she had known the full participant list beforehand.
          Snip ~
          One meeting attendee was Mahdi Bray of the Muslim American Society, several of the participants said. The MAS website describes Bray as an imam and “long time civil and human rights activist.” Bray’s critics say he has a history of defending terrorists. They point to a video of Bray at a rally in 2000, for example, in which he can be seen pumping his fist in the air in support of the terrorist groups Hamas and Hezbollah. In a 2004 interview, he called the Israeli assassination of a Hamas spiritual leader an “unlawful, cowardly and dangerous act of state-sponsored terrorism.” Bray did not return a call requesting comment.

          Please be sure to also check out comment 28 at that FR link, I’ll list the titles only of the links at that comment minus the link’s so that this comment will post.

          * In the 1990’s, Barack Obama was a member of the Chicago New Party

          * From the mid 1996 to 2005, Barack Obama attended annual meetings of the Chicago chapter of the Democratic Socialist of America

          * the “largest socialist organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International”

          * which “draws upon Marxism, religious and ethical socialism” to bring about “fundamental restructuring of our socio-economic order”

          * During meetings of the DSA, Barack Obama has promoted the Marxist concept of a “social wage”, “redistribution”, and the “allocation of wages and jobs” using “labor law reform, public works and contracts”

          * Barack Obama was the “chief sponsor” of an Illinois bill to set up “state-wide universal healthcare”

          * In its latest newsletter, the Democratic Socialists of America endorsed Obama’s candidacy, claiming that if Obama advertised his real plans he would not be elected

          * Barack Obama has admitted that he has “run voter registration drives for ACORN”, an organization being investigated for voter registration fraud in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Michigan, Nevada, Indiana, New Mexico, Wisconsin, North Carolina and other states.

          • Do you think Carlos Arredondo, of the Boston attack fame, was at that protest with his friends Sheehan and Benjamin? https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/new-questions-about-the-tsarnaev-investigation/comment-page-2/#comment-111729 Remember? Leza, scan down in the comments to one by you documenting another 2007 protest, this time “Protesting Apartheid in Israel/Palestine”.


            “… Radicals lobbying

            Meanwhile, several major groups were founded to lobby for the legislation that became Obama’s health-care law.

            Healthcare-NOW, not to be confused with the organization Health Care for America Now, was established in 2004 for one purpose – to lobby on behalf of single-payer healthcare. Healthcare-NOW’s broad base includes socialist, labor, church and community organizations and, most notably, Physicians for a National Health Program.

            Healthcare-NOW co-chairmen include Dr. Quentin D. Young, who is considered father of the single-payer movement. Young advised Obama during his days as a senator. Medea Benjamin, co-founder of the radical Code Pink anti-war group, is a member of Healthcare-NOW’s board of directors.

            Another major group leading the charge to transform health care has been Campaign for America’s Future. CAF was founded in 1990 by Robert L. Borosage. Roger Hickey, co-founder of the Soros-funded Economic Policy Institute which “Red Army” ties to the health-care bill, is credited as being a CAF co-founder as well. …”

            Medea is everywhere.

          • Talk about good memory’s Mir! yes I believe Carlos Arredondo WAS at the 2007 Vietnam Memorial Wall protest according to this blog posting. But I sincerely doubt the accounts of what happened as described.

            Gathering of Eagles was there protecting the wall from the anti war protesters which describes Carlos Arredondo, he is a anti war protester.

            Counter Protest March 17th, 2007 At the Wall
            February 01, 2007
            Comment – 46

            February 05, 2007

            Gathering of Eagles

            “A helpless sparrow can drift with the wind. It takes an “Eagle” to fly against the storm.”

            1000 Hours, March 17, 2007

            Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall

            Washington, D.C.

            The anti-war/anti-America groups are planning a “march to the Pentagon” on March 17, 2007… this group has intentions that defenders of freedom cannot overlook or allow to occur… there must be a challenge.

            Here’s a portion from the “anti-war” web site March 17 — March on Pentagon!

            Showing posts with label Carlos Arredondo

            Saturday, January 05, 2008

            Defacing the marine’s grave, pummelling the father, military families of all stripes deserve more respect

            Snip ~

            The three Marines showed up at Arredondo’s home to inform the family that Lance Cpl. Alexander Arredondo, 20, had died Tuesday in Najaf. What happened next shocked the Marines and Arredondo’s neighbors. After getting the news, Carlos Arredondo walked into the garage, picked up a propane tank, a lighting device and a can of gasoline. He then proceeded to set the Marines’ van ablaze while he was inside. —

            Snip ~

            That is why it is difficult for me to understand at all why we have people in this country, who of their own free will, deliberately look for ways to throw stones at Carlos choices for expressing his grief. I read in Sept 2007, how grown men representing an organization calling itself “Gathering of Eagles” rendered destruction on Carlos memorial to his son, ripping the photograph of his son from him, accelerating to pummelling Carlos to the ground. And with Amy’s report at her blog, I now read that in Oct 2007, someone or some people thought to vandalize the gravesite memorial of Lance Corporal Alexander Arrendondo which can have no effective message except that of bringing further distress to his family.


            Accounts from the above incident from the Gathering of Eagles website (archived link)


            September 17, 2007

            From democracynow.org

            Ok- did anybody see this? Amazing- there were more video cams a rolling than pigons in DC on Sat but know one got this on tape- Most be a 9/11 truther starting the BS flying-

            Pro-War Protesters Assault Father Of Soldier Killed in IraQ
            A counter-demonstration was also held by supporters of the war. One
            prominent peace activist Carlos Arredondo was beaten by pro-war

            Snip ~

            Comment by ~
            8:36 am
            September 18, 2007

            This guy Carlos is a certifiable NUTCASE…PERIOD.

            While I feel for any Gold Star family member. Having a son or father, sister, brother or mother killed in defense of their country AND it’s way of life, does NOT give one the right to desecrate the memory of that fallen hero in furtherance of the cause of everything CONTRARY to the beliefs of said country. This guy Carlos has been co-opted by the left for their own political gains and his nationwide “road-show, street theater” makes a mockery of every other Gold Star family out there. Cindy Sheehan has made her place in history by exploiting the honorable service of her son, and our little Carlos is being PAID to do the same in his own sick twisted way throughout the country with the death of his.

            Remember folks, that this guy went ballistic when the Marines came to his house with the news. He took a hammer to their van, and then tried to douse it with gasoline and light it on fire!

            We as a society don’t tolerate nut-jobs going whacko on people just because they’re “feeling pain in their hearts”. Nor should we. This guy belongs in an institution, not on the news as a poster boy for “the agony of loss”. Besides, he’s flat out LYING about the circumstances of his “scuffle”.

            How do I know this? Because the animal BIT ME! Yes, I’m the guy that he bit. This freakshow would be in jail now, were it not for the compassion of Fred Peterson, (a 61 yr old, arthritic, Viet-Nam vet) who was attacked from BEHIND, and myself not pressing charges against the nut-case for his assault on US! He attacked Fred. I pulled him off. He BIT ME! When that kind of savagery takes place…all bets should be off. But the HUMANS chose to let sleeping dogs lie…so to speak.

            Here below is the account from the Eagle he attacked. You can decide who to believe…but I was there. After reading what the pathetic BITER is saying now, I wish we HAD pressed charges. Perhaps he’s be singing a different tune. But I doubt it. His handlers love the lie.

            From the pen of Fred Peterson:

            I was leaving Capitol Grounds.
            The activity there had just about ended with
            the arrest of over 600 provocateurs and agents ‘anti-war’ of
            There, we Eagles had organized teams of six men – mostly veterans
            – to protect the safety of Gold Star Moms (and Dads) from the physical threats
            and insults of hard-edge left socialists, Seattle anarchists, random lefty
            Raggamuffins and reflexive anti-Americans who made up the ANSWER Coalition …

            I had spent the day in the company of an American hero – a youthful Army
            amputee, who wanted only to rejoin his brothers and renew his sacrifice in
            defense of country.
            It was a humbling and inspirational experience, to be in
            the presence of such selfless virtue in one so young and brave.
            It invited a
            camaraderie of high principle and enervated a keen sense of obligation to
            preserve and protect these worthy veterans from the predations of those lessers
            who insult their country and cause…

            My teams broke up at the Capitol,
            mission accomplished, and I was walking alone back to the Mall when I saw
            the photo-image of a proud young Marine in dress blues being held hostage in
            company not of his own choosing and affixed to a coffin not his own.

            insult to his honor and disrespect to his Corps and cause by his captors was
            immediately obvious and intended.
            These same peddlers of provocation are
            paid to push their coffin-prop all over the country they revile. They subvert
            a common will and undermine the cause and country for which this hostage-Marine
            had sacrificed his very life.

            The captive Marine was not among his
            own. He was surrounded and outnumbered by those who shamelessly exploit his
            image and memory, disgrace his uniform, his brothers in arms, and his
            willing sacrifice.
            He would never choose such company.
            He needed a

            I liberated his image from the midst of the hostile crowd,
            intending to replace it in a position of honor Arlington, where he would rest
            with heroes and among his own …I respectfully carried the image of the
            fallen Marine and was not opposed nor confronted in any way until I has walked
            perhaps 25 yards down the sidewalk.
            There, I was attacked without warning and
            tackled from behind by a demonstrator who crashed into my back at a full run.
            I went down forward, tearing pants knees and shirt sleeve and five separate
            wounds requiring hospital attention.
            The Marine’s image, along with camera
            and sunglasses were smashed into the pavement. Before I could respond, six
            or so Eagles-vets were immediately pulling me away from the anti-war attacker.

            One Eagle was holding the attacker and yelling, “He’s biting off my arm! I
            cannot believe this (A-Hole) is biting my arm!”
            That Eagle also went to the
            hospital where he was treated and given shots.

            Other Eagles separated
            the two and held the attacker/biter for the police.
            Police Interviews were
            conducted and Eagles were asked if they wanted to prefer charges…

            charges were filed by Eagles, who are unaccustomed to whining about minor
            injuries when they stand in defense of larger principles unappreciated –
            uncomprehended – by their attackers.

            Two Gold Star Mothers who witnessed
            the entire episode and gave police statements said, “I am so proud of what
            you did! I wanted to do it myself …
            That coffin is such a disgrace to my
            son and all the others who have died to help others be free. Thank you so
            much! It made my day.”

            Well, actually, – those few precious words, from
            one who has given the full measure of issue from her own body to the defense of
            our country, ‘made my day’ also …

            Semper Fidelis.
            Many more comments at the Eagles link. Miri same protest? I’m to tired to go back and look at the dates….but yes, excellent thoughts Miri and you were right, a usual good work by all..Hoot well done, and you are very welcome for the above, anytime I can help…of course!


          • September 17, 2007

            Wake Me Up When September Ends
            Protest time in the capital city.

            By Mark Hemingway

            Washington, D.C. — It’s September in D.C., and that means that it’s time to protest. Originally, large anti-globalization protest actions were semi-annual events in town because they were held to coincide with the International Monetary Fund and World Bank meetings in April and September. The dates have stuck, though nobody cares much for globalization issues anymore since the war in Iraq began. For the last few years, the September antiwar protests have been organized by International A.N.S.W.E.R., an offshoot of the Workers World Party — a group so staunchly Communist it supported the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

            Snip ~

            Sensing that the fury wasn’t there, march organizers begin to organize the “die-in.” Marchers are commanded to lie down on the Capitol lawn in a gesture symbolic of the “1.3 million dead Iraqis” that have died in the war to date. Running some rough figures, that’s almost 800 people a day since the war began. It’s hard to tell whether that’s a lie or merely a willingness to believe in hysterical nonsense.

            For blocks along the parade route, the antiwar marchers find themselves confronted by large numbers of counterprotesters organized by a veterans group called Gathering of Eagles. A few of them followed the marchers all the way up to Capitol and are standing around chatting idly, observing the scene. One gets a phone call — there’s been a fight down near the reflecting pool and everybody’s off running down the hill.

            By the time they arrive, there’s scrum of police and witnesses. The cops have zeroed in on the two men — Fred Peterson and Carlos Arredondo. It takes a while to unpack everyone’s stories, but here’s what’s apparently gone down: Arredondo has been participating in antiwar marches across the country, dragging a flag draped coffin on wheels. It has the name of his son Alexander on the back, with a photo of him in his dress blues. Alexander was a 20-year-old Lance Corporal Marine on his second tour when he died in An Najaf. When the Marine Corps casualty assistant officers arrived at Arredondo’s home to tell him his son had been killed, he did not take it well. He doused the Marine’s van with gasoline and tried to set himself on fire. Ever since then, Carlos Arredondo and his wife Melida (Alexander’s stepmother) have been an active part of the antiwar movement. Arredondo, a Costa Rican immigrant, gained U.S. citizenship two years after the incident, with help from Senator Kennedy, in part because of his notoriety.

            Arredondo was bringing up the rear of the march; almost everybody was already on the Capitol lawn when he came by dragging his casket. Fred Peterson, an ex-Marine, was standing off to the side of the road. Peterson was upset, not just as a participant in the counterprotest offended by the marcher’s politics and their perceived lack of patriotism, but because he felt exploiting the death of a fallen Marine crossed a line. Fred walked out into the street and snatched the picture off of the casket.

            Arredondo didn’t even know what happened until it was pointed out to him by others. By the time Arredondo figured it out, Peterson was walking away. In a rage, Arredondo took off and tackled Peterson from behind at a full run. Arredondo was pulled off Peterson very quickly by a number of Peterson’s fellow veterans and counterprotesters, but not before Peterson was bloodied in the ensuing scuffle.

            The police take statements. Nobody is arrested. Peterson has no idea who was pulling the coffin, only that someone was dishonoring the memory of a fellow marine. Leaders of the Gathering of Eagles speak to antiwar activists and Arredondo in an attempt to smooth things out. Though Arredondo and his wife have largely let themselves be exploited by questionable antiwar activists such as Cindy Sheehan, being a Gold Star father still counts for something in their eyes and they were familiar with Arredondo’s troubles. (Carlos Arredondo leaves the scene of the altercation accompanied by the Rev. Lennox Yearwood Jr., who is both exploitative and ethically challenged.)



            Rev. Lennox Yearwood Jr., (from above – Carlos Arredondo leaves the scene of the altercation accompanied by the Rev. Lennox Yearwood Jr., who is both exploitative and ethically challenged.)

            Rev. Lennox Yearwood Jr.,

            Lennox Yearwood, Jr. is a minister and community activist who is also an influential member of political hip hop. Yearwood currently serves as President of the Hip Hop Caucus, a national nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that empowers young people to participate in elections, policymaking and service projects.[1] Yearwood has led or been involved in a number of high-profile campaigns to engage young voters, as well as working on human rights issues in the Gulf Coast region after Hurricane Katrina.

            Early activism

            Yearwood was a co-creator of the 2004 campaign “Vote or Die” with Sean Combs. He was the Political and Grassroots Director for Russell Simmons’ Hip Hop Summit in 2003 and 2004, and functioned as Senior Consultant to Jay Z’s “Voice Your Choice” campaign. He served as a Senior Consultant for P. Diddy’s Citizen Change, where he provided a 50-state strategy for engaging the hip hop generation in community-building dialogues.[2]

            During the 2004 Presidential election, Yearwood, Russell Simmons, and Jonathan Lewis created the “Hip Hop Team Vote Bus Tour.” Yearwood is also the founder of Hip Hop Voices, a project of Voices for Working Families (AFL-CIO).[3]

            H.R. 2206 protest

            Yearwood and others protested the United States Senate passage of the U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans’ Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007 on April 26, 2007. Yearwood was arrested with thirteen other protesters in the Hart Senate Office Building[4]

            Guantanamo Bay

            Yearwood organized “Shut It Down,” a hip hop concert at the 9:30 Club in Washington, DC, calling for the end of torture at the Guantanamo Bay detainment camp and for the camp’s closure. The concert featured Dead Prez and several other hip hop artists. Amnesty International and the ACLU were partners in the event.[5]



            4:53 PM Eastern – Wednesday, July 8, 2009

            Rev. Lennox Yearwood, Jr: “Healthcare must be our lunch counter moment for the 21st century”
            By Kate Thomas

            Update: new video added. Watch it here

            Today’s hip-hop “Healthcare Remix” panel discussion at SEIU’s headquarters in Washington, DC shed a bright light on the need for healthcare reform that does more than just expand insurance coverage–and why it is imperative that every community has a voice at the decision-making table. The event was held in honor of J Dilla, an influential hip-hop MC and producer whose rising star was cut short by complications stemming from his battle with Lupus.

            Panelists spoke on the tremendous need for the hip-hop and artist community to advocate publicly on the need for healthcare reform, both in their communities and on Capitol Hill. “Hip-hop understood the power of being organized and the power of collaboration and diversity in organizing before it became the [more mainstream] term it is today. Unions understand this too,” said panel moderator CIR/SEIU Healthcare president Dr. L Toni Lewis. “What you have is your voice to let Congress know what needs to done for healthcare equality today.”

            “Our people–poor people–are dying in America today because they don’t have a card<," said Reverend Lennox Yearwood Jr., the president and CEO of the Hip Hop Caucus of the millions of people whose suffering might have been prevented if they had been able to afford to receive the life-saving care they needed. Watch Rev. Yearwood speak about the biggest battle facing our generation in the 21st century:



            The Breaking News Blog

            U.S. CAPITOL
            Week of Antiwar Events To Start With a 'Die-In'

            By Michelle Boorstein and Allison Klein
            Washington Post Staff Writers
            Thursday, September 13, 2007

            A week of events meant to crank up a national demonstration against the war in Iraq is set to begin Saturday, with a 1,000-person "die-in" at the U.S. Capitol led by current and former American troops and accompanied by taps and a mock 21-gun salute.

            The die-in will be the culmination of a march and rally. Organizers hope the event will spur people in the antiwar movement to move from protesting to performing acts of civil disobedience that "get in the way of the war machine," said Brian Becker, national coordinator of the ANSWER Coalition, at a news conference yesterday at the National Press Club.

            The group's permit with the U.S. Park Police is for 10,000 people, a source said, but ANSWER, which stands for Act Now to Stop War and End Racism, expects tens of thousands, Becker said. More than 1,000 people had signed up on the group's Web site as of yesterday to lie down at the die-in, he said, which is meant to represent Americans, Iraqis and others who have died in the war. Organizers expect the number to double or triple by Saturday.

            Two counterprotest groups, the Gathering of Eagles, made up of Vietnam veterans, and the D.C. chapter of the conservative group Free Republic, also have permits. They plan to rally at 9:30 a.m. on the Mall at Seventh Street NW and later line Pennsylvania Avenue NW between Seventh and 10th streets.

            At a news conference Monday, Gathering of Eagles spokesman Kristinn Taylor said the group's purpose is "to not allow this generation of America's servicemen and women to be betrayed on the battlefield and at home, as happened during and after the Vietnam War."

            But at the ANSWER news conference yesterday, Carlos Arredondo, whose son Alex was killed in Iraq in 2004, said, "My passport says 'We the people,' and we the people are responsible for stopping this madness." Arredondo held a folded U.S. flag in one hand and his open passport in the other.

            Other speakers included antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan and Adam Kokesh, co-chairman of Iraq Veterans Against the War.

            The antiwar movement "is far from where Bush would like you to think we are, that we are the fringe. They are the fringe. We are the mainstream," said Mahdi Bray, executive director of the Muslim American Society's Freedom Foundation, which encourages Muslim civic participation.


            Also note Mahdi Bray was also mentioned above @ –
            Leza | October 6, 2013 at 5:13 am

          • More on —— Rev. Lennox Yearwood, Jr: and how he connects to the C l o w n

            Obama’s Plan to Desecrate 9/11

            By Matthew Vadum on 8.24.09 @ 6:08AM

            A cynical, coldly calculated political effort is underway to convert Sept. 11 into a day of leftist celebration and statist idolatry.

            The Obama White House is behind a cynical, coldly calculated political effort to erase the meaning of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks from the American psyche and convert Sept. 11 into a day of leftist celebration and statist idolatry.

            This effort to reshape the American psyche has nothing to do with healing the nation and everything to do with easing the nation along in the ongoing radical transformation of America that President Obama promised during last year’s election campaign. The president signed into law a measure in April that designated Sept. 11 as a National Day of Service, but it’s not likely many lawmakers thought this meant that day was going to be turned into a celebration of ethanol, carbon emission controls, and radical community organizing.

            The administration’s plans were outlined in an Aug. 11 White House-sponsored teleconference call run by Obama ally Lennox Yearwood, president of the Hip Hop Caucus, and Liv Havstad, the group’s senior vice president of strategic partnerships and programs.

            Snip ~

            Yearwood, who uses the honorific “Reverend” before his name, has been in the news in recent years, usually for getting arrested. After Democrats took back Congress, the rowdy activist was handcuffed outside a congressional hearing in September 2007 when Gen. David Petraeus was to testify. Yearwood told the “Democracy Now” radio program that he wanted to attend the hearing to hear Petraeus give his report. “I knew that when officers lie, soldiers die,” he said.

            On the Aug. 11 call, Yearwood and other leaders kept saying repeatedly that they wanted 9/11 to be used for something “positive,” “forward-leaning,” and “productive,” said a source with knowledge of the teleconference.

            The plan is to turn a “day of fear” that helps Republicans into a day of activism called the National Day of Service that helps the left. In other words, nihilistic liberals are planning to drain 9/11 of all meaning.

            Snip ~

            “They think it needs to be taken back from the right,” said the source. “They’re taking that day and they’re breaking it because it gives Republicans an advantage. To them, that day is a fearful day.”

            A coalition including the unsavory left-wing pressure group Color of Change and about 60 far-left, environmentalist, labor, and corporate shakedown groups participated in the call. Groups on the call included: ACORN, AFL-CIO, Apollo Alliance, Community Action Partnership, Deep South Center for Environmental Justice, 80 Million Strong for Young American Jobs, Friends of the Earth, Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, Mobilize.org, National Black Police Association, National Coalition on Black Civic Participation, National Council of Negro Women, National Wildlife Federation, RainbowPUSH Coalition, Urban League, and Young Democrats of America.



            Hip Hop Caucus and Green For All announce the Green the Block campaign to further broad participation

            WASHINGTON – Today, the Obama Administration is scheduled to hold a briefing for members of Green the Block to discuss the need to involve vulnerable communities in the emerging green economy. Immediately following there will be a press avail at noon at the White House West Wing stakeout area to discuss opportunities in the new green economy and to announce the first major initiative of the Green the Block.

            (Media-Newswire.com) – WASHINGTON – Today, the Obama Administration is scheduled to hold a briefing for members of Green the Block to discuss the need to involve vulnerable communities in the emerging green economy. Immediately following there will be a press avail at noon at the White House West Wing stakeout area to discuss opportunities in the new green economy and to announce the first major initiative of the Green the Block.

            President Obama is committed to building a thriving clean energy economy that drives our national recovery through innovation, entrepreneurship and job creation. In order to realize the full potential of a clean-energy future, all Americans must be informed and have access to the new opportunities available.

            Convened by Green For All and the Hip Hop Caucus, Green the Block is a new campaign to more deeply engage our most vulnerable communities in the transition to a 21st century economy. Green the Block will encourage education, legislative advocacy, private-sector development and youth activism, and is supported by a broad base coalition of partners.

            Administration representatives for this event include Secretary Shaun Donovan, Department of Housing and Urban Development; Administrator Lisa Jackson, Environmental Protection Agency; and Under Secretary Kristina Johnson, Department of Energy. They will be joined by Reverend Lennox Yearwood, Jr., president of the Hip Hop Caucus, Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins, CEO of Green For All, and leaders of the Green the Block.

            WHO: Obama Administration officials and members of the Green the Block

            WHAT: Press conference on opportunities in the new green economy

            WHEN: Tuesday, August 4 Noon

            WHERE: White House West Wing stakeout area

            RSVP: Please RSVP for this event by sending your information to media_affairs@who.eop.gov



            Obama admin teams with grassroots groups to ‘Green the Block’

            By Kate Sheppard

            6 Aug 2009 6:17 AM

            Rev. Lennox Yearwood Jr., president of the Hip Hop Caucus, discusses the Green the Block partnership. In the background (L-R) are Dept. of Energy Undersecretary Kristina Johnson, Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson, and Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan.

            Ensuring that low-income communities and minority youth benefit from green jobs programs is the goal of a new partnership between the White House and two grassroots organizations — Hip Hop Caucus and Green For All.

            Two Cabinet members and leaders of the grassroots groups unveiled the Green the Block initiative Tuesday at a White House press conference, describing the partnership as as both a campaign and a coalition that is designed to build political support for greening efforts in low-income and minority communities..

            “The 20th century was defined by civil rights and The 21st century will be defined by clean energy,” said Rev. Lennox Yearwood Jr., president of the Hip Hop Caucus. “Future generations will measure us by our success in transitioning from a fossil fuel economy to a clean energy economy, and in the process building opportunity and prosperity for our most economically disenfranchised communities.”

            “We have to convince our generation that this truly is our lunch-counter moment of the 21st century,” said Yearwood, referring to the sit-ins held at segregated diners during the Civil Rights era.

            The initiative will officially kick-off with a day of service on September 11, 2009 — part of the White House’s already announced United We Serve program. The Green the Block website has more information on local initiatives taking place around the country.

            “September 11 is about bringing people together to recognize that change happens not in the corridors of Washington, DC, but it happens in the streets of Detroit, Cleveland, San Francisco, Oakland, Richmond, and cities across the country,” said Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins, CEO of the Oakland-based group Green for All.

            The cabinet members — EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson and Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan — touted some of the investments that the Obama administration has made to assist low-income Americans through greening efforts. In the economic stimulus package, $14 billion is designated for housing upgrades, including $5 billion to make low-income housing more energy efficient. Noting that the government currently spends $5 billion a year providing monetary assistance for energy bills to low-income households, Donovan said investments like those in the stimulus plan will help offset costs for families and the government in the long run.

            Jackson noted the EPA’s Tuesday announcement of $61 million for brownfields revitalization efforts. The funds will go toward job training programs.

            Jackson also touted the climate and energy bill that passed the House in June as another potential means of growing the green economy and creating new jobs. Green for All’s Ellis-Lamkins praised the House bill for including provisions that help ensure jobs will be created in low-income and minority communities, which include local hiring requirements and devotes a portion of pollution permit revenues to job training programs. She said it will be important to get these communities engaged in the debate as the bill moves in the Senate, in order to ensure that this type of provision is included in the final bill.

            “If communities of color aren’t engaged, you won’t see provisions like that,” said Ellis-Lamkins.

            Video: Green jobs adviser Van Jones talks about green jobs efforts and how the Obama administration can work with underserved communities to ensure they have access to the benefits and opportunities of a clean energy economy.



            Obama Turns 9/11 Observance Over to al Qaeda Sympathizer

            Monday, August 24, 2009 | Kristinn

            Posted on Monday, August 24, 2009 11:06:56 AM by kristinn


            Amazing that the FR post was posted by kristinn. She was the one that originally obtained the permit from the DC park service for the FR members to protect the Wall from the anti war protesters. I wonder if she even realizes all the other connections here?

        • Leza, Thank you. I posted this on fb and made reference to O’s wondrous commie friends. In times past it was instant denia by the followers on anything Oba.. This time they said something like, “Wouldn’t surprise me if the WH guy has connections to this event. Read the part about authoritarian. Notice the part about using people. He does not all the time.”

          I am sensing an embarrassment, by the few lib associations I still have, for their chosen guy over this whole spiteful shutdown behavior. They don’t seem to have any wind left to rah-rah for him much anymore. Mind you they are not dissing him but something about showing this 2007 event they did not know of has moved them a notch away from the guy. (they sided with vets from just reading the two articles and side with vets today). I don’t have a real grasp on the events but am interested in it, so thanks for more into.

          • They should be not only embarrassed but also CONTRITE. They owe the entire Republic a huge apology. Now what they need to do is get on the horn and tell their DemoncRAT representatives and senators to WORK to correct the mistake and IMPEACH OBAMA NOW.

        • Something so awesome and epic as vets surrounding the memorial, hand in hand, with many coming great distances and on their own dime, and most of America does not even know about it just gets to me. The spirit of the bullies behind the barrycading of the memorials now seems the same; part of a progression; not isolated. Just smoke and screens that it is because of the shutdown.

          And you guys rock here with all your archived (both in the site and in your brains) information. Patriots. Awesome Patriots. Appreciated Patriots.

    • Good finds, WAH. Did anybody click this link from the Wayback Machine article? It’s a REAL hoot. http://web.archive.org/web/20070222184757/http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070220/ap_on_el_pr/obama_attorney_at_law

      A sample:

      “Attorney Judson Miner called Harvard to offer a job to a graduating student named Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) and didn’t expect to be showered with gratitude. Still, he wasn’t expecting the reception he got.

      “You can leave your name and take a number,” the woman who answered the phone at the Harvard Law Review said breezily. “You’re No. 647.”

      That was 1991 and even then Obama — the Illinois senator now seeking the Democratic presidential nomination — was a hot commodity. …”

      Gag alert!

  9. October 5, 2013

    Colin Flaherty:

    “Pack of black youth terrorize city”

    “Raleigh, N.C., citizens are on alert after two cases of black mob violence in two nights in their downtown.

    The attacks are the latest in a series of episodes of racial violence in the area.

    The local ABC affiliate was the only media outlet to report that last Tuesday, a group of at least 15 black people stalked and beat a homeless woman after she saw them coming and tried to get out of their way.

    In contrast to most cases of black racial violence, local journalist Kelli O’Hara actually identified the mob the way victims and the police did: They were black.

    The assault is part of a pattern of black mob violence – more than 500 cases in over 100 cities – documented in Black mobs routinely terrorize cities across the country, but the media and government are silent. Read the detailed account of rampant racial crime in “White Girl Bleed A Lot: The Return of Racial Violence to America and How the Media Ignore It.” Many have happened in North Carolina.

    Despite North Carolina’s bucolic, Andy-of-Mayberry-like roots, black mob violence has become a regular fact of life in places like Greensboro, neighboring Durham, Charlotte and Asheville. But Raleigh often stays under the radar.

    It does not have to: There are a number of recent video accounts of black mob violence in Raleigh. Several videos show late-night “let out” violence after the downtown clubs close.

    Others document home invasion robberies, and of course, good old neighborhood fights involving lots of people.”


    • October 6, 2013

      Colin Flaherty:

      “Combat soldiers no match for black mob …”

      “An active duty combat veteran is dead, a victim of black mob violence.

      The soldier, who has yet to be identified, had been celebrating his safe return from combat and his imminent release from the military. He was walking to his hotel early Saturday morning near a Seattle area military base where KOMO-TV news picks up the story: [video at link]

      A group of men in a car drove by and someone inside shouted a racial comment toward the white soldiers, the Lakewood Police Department said.

      “One of the soldiers yelled back something about the suspects treating combat soldiers with disrespect,” Lt. Chris Lawler said.

      The vehicle turned around, and five black males got out of the car and confronted the soldiers, according to reports. As the verbal confrontation ensued, the driver of the vehicle realized the men were actually combat veterans and called his friends off.

      While the men headed back to their vehicle, one of the suspects appeared to have bumped into the victim, witnesses say.

      The soldiers saw their friend fall to the ground as the car sped away. The victim was bleeding profusely from a stab wound and died at the scene.

      Police are searching for five black men who fled the scene in a midnight blue BMW-type sedan or VW Jetta-type car with four doors, tinted windows and stock rims and low profile tires, said KOMO.

      The main suspect was wearing a hoodie.”


  10. I’m here but very busy today. Will check in tomorrow. Thanks to all for keeping things perking.

  11. the negotiator. 🙄

  12. oops typo Cruz, 🙂

  13. He is so modest. 😆

    • Watch the teeth. What happened to his pearly whites? Lisping, and as if the dental veneer/appliance is at the shop or something. Notice how he tries to keep his lips closer together, as if to hide the defects.

      What an ass; he’s the one who’s deliberately making this as painful as possible for people, yet he blames it on Cruz and the Republicans.

      Which Barry is this?

  14. Rosemary Woodhouse

    His voice is constantly changing. He’s an actor. Nothing more.

  15. Mark Dice:

    “Real Life Idiocracy in America – The Obama Effect”

    Published on October 3, 2013

  16. A little levity this morning from Dennis Miller. He pointed out that the gov’t closed the federal Amber Alert website due to the shutdown, but have left open Michelle’s “Let’s Move” website. He said (paraphrasing) apparently they’re OK with you not being able to find your children, as long as they’re eating their vegetables.

    • 🙂 Funny and on point, as usual. I saw that on Drudge this morning. Also heard on radio that they are starting to shut down the Vietnam Memorial, too. A park ranger ran some people off yesterday, telling them the memorial is closed. BUT there’s a golf course Barry uses that’s NOT shut down. On national rivers, they are preventing people from canoeing! It’s ridiculous and about time for the people who supported this a-hole start to wake up and put pressure on their representatives. The DEMONcRAT ones! This is Barry’s crisis, which he’s been waiting for. He does NOT care if he trashes the economy. There’s NO REASON TO DEFAULT. All it means, if they don’t raise the debt limit, is that they MUST live within their means, like everybody else always does. When you hit the wall on your credit cards, what do YOU do? YOU CUT BACK on your spending. The government MUST pay its debts first and that means Social Security, too. PENSIONS are one item specifically mentioned in the Constitution. Worse case if they don’t raise the debt limit: Mooch’s particular programs will have to go. No more Wednesday night soirees/command performances at the WH, either. First thing that should be shut off: ALL travel by the POtuS except ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE.

    • They did not leave open the educational videos from Library of Congress, though. Many schools use the site and the students, being kids, do their assignments on their own time which could be at 2am. They have always been available 24/7. It does not take anyone to run the website per say. Just no one to ad new ones. But this week students went on it and nice little message saying due to shutdown Library of Congress closed. Spiteful. The biggest user of the site is charter public schools, meaning no unions, and many of those schools use the k12 curriculum which started out traditional worldview and not revisionist propaganda. Did I say spiteful?

      • They are spiteful, indeed. EVERY government website is down. NO information is available. You can’t look to see if events previously scheduled at national parks are still on or not. All you get is the snarky message that the government is shut down. Of course, Hagel found some clause in some old law that allowed him to call back to work some military folks and civilian contractors. Yet they think nothing of IGNORING multiple very clearly worded laws. The only thing that’s SURE is that interest on the debt WILL BE PAID. After that, Barry’s administration has to cut to make ends meet and this is just a sample of the deliberate pain they’re inflicting on people and shows how they will prioritize. He’s really pushing it and, imho, EVERYBODY is going to see through these high-handed hijinks.

  17. The shutdown hissy fit gets even worse: http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/Lake-Mead-Property-Owners-Forced-Out-Until-Gov-Shutdown-Ends-226557661.html

    “The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals. They say they’re being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because they sit on federal land.

    Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. They’ve been spending most of their time in the family ice cream store since going home isn’t an option.

    The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they’ve owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out. …”

  18. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/sick-obama-bans-cars-from-mt-rushmore-lookout-points/

    “What a nasty man.
    Not only is Obama closing all national parks but he is not letting visitors at Mt. Rushmore even stop at the lookout points to take photos of the monument.
    What a petulant and vindictive leader. …”

  19. Notice Fox news and some of the Republicans are starting to call it a slimdown instead of shutdown….

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