115 responses to “NSA Spins to the House Intelligence Committee (Open Thread)

  1. New post and open thread. Took all day to write. Will weigh in more later, perhaps. Going to see what O’Really and Hannity think about this.

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      Well worth it nd so well done! Thanks, Miri.

    • Wow, Miri. great job. When I started to see how lengthy it was I thought maybe you pasted/copied. That is a lot of work. Thank you.

      • You’re welcome. No, I’m sort of gratified when I read news articles today to see that what I thought I heard is what others have heard, too. Even professional reporters. Of course, they do a better job of condensing but they leave out a LOT that I believe is of interest.

  2. So far, O’Really and Krauthammer are giving Obama and Alexander a pass. There’s no “evidence” that they’re not telling the truth. This is disturbing, when I agree more with Daily Kos: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/18/1217030/-House-Intelligence-Committee-hearing-shows-limits-of-oversight#

    The tidbit about NSA analysts being able to decide on their own whether they have reason to query is something I didn’t particularly understand from the testimony. If they’re correct, it is extremely disturbing and is not oversight. They get the blanket warrant authorizing them to gather data for 90 days and then it’s carte blanche to query, so long as there’s that alleged audit trail?

  3. As I said, it took me all day to listen first and then write the post. I didn’t read any other reactions as I was writing, so I’d have a “virgin” outlook. It’s funny what I picked up on and what others did. This is a real-time live update via tweets. (I could have saved myself some transcribing and trouble.)
    http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/live-updates-nsa-director-testifies-before-house-intelligence-committee/

    • There is that “there’s no evidence” line again. Actually, if you bypass the lies there is plenty of evidence. So we have huge buildings of “no evidence”. They really do think the American people are dumb. Well, if any Americans believe those lies then just maybe…..

      • Tonight, O’Really used the “no evidence” again, to defend the Obama administration. Let’s not forget that this is the very same excuse/defense they use about his ineligibility. They tell us (obots do, and I guess O’Really would, too) that we don’t have any EVIDENCE that Obama is NOT eligible. He claims he was born in Hawaii and so, they believe, it’s up to US to prove that he WASN’T, which of course isn’t possible. There aren’t documents that prove something did NOT happen, but there should be documents that prove (easily) that something DID happen. When you apply for a job, you don’t tell your prospective employer that you have a PhD from Harvard, show him a digital image of a photoshopped diploma, and then tell him that he has to hire you unless he can PROVE that you’re not a PhD (keeping in mind that you also have told Harvard that they can’t reveal anything about your college history or else).

  4. June 18, 2013

    “Carl Gallups: Obama ID Fraud Scandal Of All Scandals; Congressman Stockman Now Scheduled To Meet With Sheriff Joe Lead Investigator Mike Zullo”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/gallups-obama-id-fraud-scandal-of-all-scandals.html

    [link to full BlogTalk show at ORYR]

    Audio Excerpt:

  5. http://hotair.com/archives/2013/06/17/sharyl-attkisson-on-being-hacked-my-computers-turned-themselves-on-and-off-in-the-middle-of-the-night/

    Sharyl Attkisson on being hacked: My computers turned themselves on and off in the middle of the night

    … She’s careful not to make any direct accusations but here’s an awfully heavy hint about what she thinks the hacker was after:

    “Whoever was in my work computer, the only thing I was working on were work-related things with CBS were big stories I guess during the time period in questions were I guess Benghazi and ‘Fast and Furious.’ The intruders did have access to personal information including passwords to my financial accounts and so on, but didn’t tamper with those, so they weren’t interested in stealing my identity or doing things to my finances. So people can decide on their own what they might have been trying to do in there.”

    Watch at 1:20 too for when she says she’s “not prepared” yet to talk about who they think is responsible. That sounds like she and the forensic investigators have some inkling but aren’t ready, for whatever reason, to be more specific. Given the emphasis in the clip about the timing of the hacking, i.e. when she was hard at work on Benghazi and Fast & Furious, if she had reason to believe it wasn’t the feds but rather some freelance hacker, this would have been the moment to say so, no? E.g., “Many people have asked me if I think the Department of Justice is responsible but our research points to a private actor.” Everyone suspects the DOJ here in light of the AP/James Rosen revelations and of course she knows that, and yet she conspicuously refuses to rule them out. How come?

    Video at the link. So a question raised by the writer of that story: Does Attkisson mean that the computer woke from sleep mode on its own OR can someone via remote access actually turn on a plugged in but turned off machine? Gordo?

    • I’m guessing that ‘something’ was installed on her computers via the internet. ‘It’ could be used to turn-on a plugged-in computer that is turned-off. If the idea is to scan her computers for info and send that info to someone, why alert her by turning on the computers? Best way would be to transmit the info while she is online, then she would not be aware of any suspicious activity.

      • Sorry, for butting in.. There are spyware programs that can be sent via, attachments, through email, or any link, even through getting you to click on a fake web site. Once you have clicked on the link, via, phone, email, or any other, it is automatically downloaded, and uploaded to the hackers comp. They then have full control over your, electronics, cell, comp. They can remotely turn it on, through their comp, without you knowing. They can even turn on your web cams, cameras on your phones. They have full access to insert and delete, data. Most times, they will turn on the comp, when they believe the victim is asleep. Different time zones. They do get away, and most do not catch, that their comp is turning on, or think they did not turn it off. Some see, weird activity happen, such as, their mouse, move on its on, or your in a war to control your mouse, cursor, against an unknown authority. They have complete control, and have access to your passwords, emails and administrator. Some have been bold enough, to change settings, and administrator passwords, blocking you from getting back into your comp. Sharing any type of service in your home, is a way for them to hack into your service too. Such as home, sharing, printers, wifi, sharing. Turn off any sharing in your home. Set all your settings private. The NSA, need only get your IP addy, home addy, email addy, and link up to it, to spy. They have ways to get in, through Your front door With methods that regular hackers need to come through the back door. They, did not want her personal, info, they wanted her work, under the radar info. Info in which could be damaging. They have the capabilities, to reach in, and grab what ever they want, and leave, make poof, from your files, emails, comp. When you sit in amazement, thinking did I really just see that happen. Yes you did, and we are now witnessing this on levels no one can imagine, or believe either. It is so far out of the box, that one could never think, someone in the highest office would be so empty, as a person, to do such a thing. He has serious issues going on for him to have to reach in and spy on every person that he thinks will hurt his chances, or destroy his lies..

        • CrazyBird, welcome. You’re not butting in. We always appreciate anybody’s input. You provide some interesting info.

          I figured that if the computer was plugged in (whether to the electricity and/or the DSL) then even if off, they could turn it on. Who hasn’t at times allowed the ISP techs to remotely access their machine?

          Since they can do that, obviously they can also turn it on and off. Good point that they might try to turn it on when you’re asleep. Seems risky, though, because of the glow it would create. How do they know what room you have your computer in?

          In her case, she must have had it somewhere that somebody in her household would notice. I wonder if it’s possible that just initiating the illegal access turned the machines on, but the hacker didn’t know that they weren’t on previously? Just a thought.

          I’ve had that situation before, where my mouse isn’t going where I want it to. However, it’s usually fixed by a new battery; once that happened when my cell phone was sitting right next to the wireless mouse and I noticed an incoming message interfering with the mouse’s function. So not to worry (yet)! Just keep it in mind.

          butterdezillion has mentioned before on Free Republic that she experienced the same sorts of curious happenings on her computer. Like Attkisson, she had an expert look into it and they also suspect someone is remotely getting into her files to spy on her. I would suggest that she contact Attkisson. Maybe the same perp is involved.

          From the testimony yesterday (and thanks to the Daily Kos analysis–dang I hate to give them any credit) it seems that there’s not much control at the NSA over what their “analysts” are doing. First, there’s obviously no way for them or their contractors to screen out people with a political agenda (Snowden) or at least they didn’t do adequate vetting. (Alternately, they wanted him to do what he did, for their own reasons.) Second, they admitted that the querying of the database is left up to the analyst. The warrant is only for the data collection of the metadata.

          So all they need is a “plausible” excuse for their “reasonable” suspicion that the person “might” be engaged in terrorism. It’s probably not a mistake that the DHS, early on in Barry’s administration, suddenly defined Tea Partiers, patriots, Constitutionalists, and other conservatives as “potential domestic terrorists.”

          We keyed on it immediatly; NOTHING is done by this administration without a specific and usually nefarious reason (i.e., to evade laws and/or the Constitution, or do a lawyerly, fancy/schmancy end run around the spirit, if not the letter, of the law).

          I did note that they talked about how DOJ and Holder or one of his toady deputies sign off on every request to the FISA court. They make it sound good–their iterative process to “perfect” the application. Think of it this way, though: It’s their iterative process to come up with a “yeah, that’s the ticket” spin. Plausible deniability for when someone questions it. Such as, deciding to target James Rosen’s records by pretending to be investigating a “leak” of classified information, when Rosen (or any reporter doing his job) is NOT a co-conspirator in any sense of the word and also it’s very questionable whether that information, which was COMMON KNOWLEDGE (about Korea) is or should have been classified.

          When you don’t have the crime of the century and reporters have NEVER in the entire history of this country been labeled as co-conspirators with leakers, you can conclude that the DOJ and possibly the NSA USED the allegation as an excuse to TARGET FOX News’s White House reporter and every other contact he made in order to get the jump on what Rosen was covering and might expose. Just as with Attkisson.

          Obama labeled Fox News, the Tea Party, Glenn Beck’s “patriots”, pro-lifers, and other conservatives as his “enemies”. He used the word. As he’s prone to do, he joked about how he manages to get away with things that are potentially illegal–such as forging a digital birth certificate, targeting “enemies” by using the IRS, spying on people, etc. Look to his “jokes” to learn what he’s doing. He can’t resist the snark.

          It was no accident that DHS labeled these people as potential domestic terrorists. They had a reason beyond being nasty just because they have the power to be nasty: Either to signal to their peeps that they have carte blanche to use the power of their individual positions to “please” their messiah by targeting these groups or to give plausibility for what they planned to do to political enemies via abuse of executive power. Call them potential domestic terrorists (whether true or not) and you can then justify using the Patriot Act and FISA to surveil them.

          It’s no accident that yesterday the NSA, DOJ, and FBI folks mentioned that the NSA programs protect us from “enemies” both outside the country as well as INSIDE the country. Most, hearing that, would think, “Good. We want them to catch those foreign terrorists like the ones who attacked us in 2001.”

          But it’s AS LIKELY that the potential inside “terrorists” this NSA is protecting us from are Tea Partiers, patriot groups, conservatives in general, and anybody else that the DOJ can get lawyers and judges somewhere to agree might be co-conspirators in plots to leak “classified” information, which under Barry includes ANYTHING that hurts him politically.

          Just yesterday, apparently outside the hearing (so not under oath), Alexander said (it’s reported in papers today) that MOST of the documents that Snowden took came from an internal online “forum” that all of the NSA has access to. In other words, it wasn’t secret and it wasn’t classified.

          So now upon what basis are they calling him a traitor and threatening his freedom if not his life? You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say that you were NOT lax in vetting him or allowing him to access this information while at the same time saying he did great damage to the country and is a traitor.

          Barry is SO “empty as a person.” Great insight. I agree, the tracks are there and the motivation is clear. This is (at best) a Chicago thug situation, all the way.

          Good advice for everyone to disable sharing, cameras, etc. My computer came with a Web cam. I disabled it. I have no use for it and that case of the school that issued laptops to all the children and then turned on their Web cams remotely and SPIED on the kids in their homes was enough for me! I did disable remote access, too. (I think.)

          I wonder if they can turn your computer on remotely even IF you have it unplugged from the phone line and the electric (there are batteries, of course). Is that beyond the realm of possibility?

          Consider this: Because they CAN do what CrazyBird says, then they can PLANT incriminating information on anyone’s computer and then accuse them, for example, of possessing child porn. It’s a recipe for Russian-style gulags. The Russians were known for labeling their opponents crazy and sending them to mental gulags.

          This is why I’ve said many times before that if I were on a jury, I can’t see how I could vote to convict anyone on the basis of simply having something on their computer. They modified the dates and times on Attkisson’s computer and her files. ANYTHING in digital form can be modified, including the alleged “content” of emails. (So they can plant “threats” in your email, too.)

          If it exists in digital form anywhere (your computer, your ISP’s servers (to which they have access), the “cloud”) then they can flip the bits and make it say whatever they want it to say.

          Just like Brennan’s peeps “cauterized” Barry’s passport files, according to anonymous sources who told a reporter. Digital “evidence” (as we know with his LFCOLB) is EVIDENCE of nothing because it’s intangible. Even digital “journals” or “logs” can themselves be modified.

          So anything in digital form is capable of being corrupted. Only actual 3-D physical matter is or should be “evidence”.

          Anybody who understands the nature of digital data would HAVE to admit that nothing digital, nothing from the “virtual” realm, can ever be solid evidence. Surely not enough to convict anyone by any standard of proof–not “reasonable doubt” or even “preponderance of the evidence.”

          Rant of the day over. 😉

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  10. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Their “roiling 5 year plan”. Five year plan. Where, in history, have we heard that term before? (rhetorical question, of course)

    Miri wrote, ” [Who cares? Our standard is the Constitution, not how we measure up against countries whose systems of government can’t hold a candle to the United States of America when it comes to individual liberty.]”

    Brava. The entire post was excellent, but the heart of it, IMO is the quote I extracted.

    • TY for reading, RW. I was having a serious attack of Asperger’s yesterday. I didn’t mean to be so tedious. I listened and took the notes, so I typed them up. I mean, why let them go to waste? My take on history. It was cathartic, sort of like knitting.

      Good catch on the “five-year plan”. I missed a snark on that one!

      I half expected somebody (not you, but an obot) to challenge me on my statement about “who cares” and, especially, when I said “cry me a river.” But my thinking is that I really don’t feel that sorry for people who live in places like the UK or France or the Netherlands (or far worse places, like dictatorships). Either they voluntarily gave up their freedom or they chose never to fight for it. We the People (all people) have the God-given individual liberties that are (ordinarily) celebrated in the USA. Our Constitution exists to ENSURE that our government does not INFRINGE upon the liberties and rights that PREEXIST! We’re born with these rights, given to us by our Creator, and NO GOVERNMENT should infringe upon them. Fortunately, so long as we can “keep it,” our Republic operates (or should) under a Constitution that places the power in THE PEOPLE. Yesterday or the day before, I heard Rand Paul misspeak. He said that the 4th Amendment “gives us” the right to be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects. And Hannity (I think it was Hannity) let that one slip by. He should have reminded Rand Paul that no, We the People ARE SECURE IN OUR PERSONS, HOUSES, PAPERS, AND EFFECTS and the 4th Amendment exists to ensure that our government remembers that fact.

    • OMG. That is really something.

      “If you were wondering how the NSA and FBI felt about the very friendly hearing the House Intelligence Committee invited them to today, a hot mic has your answer. “Tell your boss,” NSA Director Keith Alexander told the FBI deputy director, “I owe him another friggin’ beer.”

      Ben Doernberg caught the exchange, which we’ve clipped below. Alexander, being photographed at bottom center, is speaking with FBI deputy director Sean Joyce, to his left.

      Throughout the hearing the two worked together, with Alexander frequently setting up topics upon which Joyce expounded. When Alexander said that the government’s surveillance tools had stopped over 50 terror attacks, Joyce described four of them. And so on. Over the course of three hours, the two faced little in the way of critique.”

      Sounds like conspiracy to commit something, doesn’t it? I hope the Committee (or somebody who cares) takes notice. This must be why none of Joyce’s comments merited, imho, a mention in my post. He simply aped what Alexander said, and vice versa.

      Actually, I did take notes on the supposed examples Joyce gave of disrupted plots, but they seemed lame and not worth mentioning. I forgot in the post, iirc, to mention that examples were given (which sounds like “mistakes were made.”)

      So they worked as a tag team, huh? (Who’s Joyce’s boss? ERIC HOLDER. And what other favor did Alexander get from Holder that requires a beer summit payback?)

      Sounds like they coordinated their testimony, doesn’t it? That hardly seems kosher.

      This reminds me of Holly Paz SITTING IN on EVERY interview Inspector General George had with Paz’s underlings. It’s SO likely that her minions would tell George the truth or anything that even might be construed in any way to make Paz look bad. Not. That’s totally against all investigative procedure. When you’re looking for the TRUTH, you interview people separately. Especially NOT in the presence of their boss. So why did George, who I formerly thought was an honest investigator, ALLOW Paz to sit in?

      This is EXACTLY like how in Benghazi, Hillary Clinton’s stooge Cheryl Mills insisted on her minion being present in every interview that Hicks had with Congresspersons who were looking into what happened over there.

      These people have “investigations” of themselves and they don’t even try to learn the truth. They either don’t investigate but pretend that they are (Mueller) or the go through the motions of an investigation that does not even try to learn the truth but they get something (transcripts of censored by presence of boss testimony). Anything to make a bogus “trail” for the history books.

      Think of how different things would be if ONLY we had an honest media.

  11. June 19, 2013

    “MSNBC Goes Bonkers Over Birthers; Pushes Obama’s Phony Birth Certificate”
    ===============
    “Republican congressman questions Obama’s ‘validity’
    Clare Kim @ MSNBC”

    “A Republican congressman is reviving the birther conspiracy and calling on Congress to revisit key issues that he says test “the president’s validity.”

    When pressed by conservative radio host Rick Wiles last week, South Carolina Rep. Jeff Duncan played along with a conspiracy dubbed by Wiles as “the original scandal”: President Obama’s “phony identification papers.”

    Duncan, who chairs the House Homeland Security Oversight Subcommittee, went on to suggest that investigations into President Obama’s place of birth was an issue deserving of the Supreme Court’s attention.

    Wiles, who anchors the radio program TruNews, took it a step further.”
    ===============
    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/video-msnbc-goes-bonkers-over-birthers.html

  12. “Breaking: “Born in the USA” Played for Obama at Brandenburg Gate”

    “Tweet WHY THAT SONG?”

    by Sharon Rondeau

    June 19, 2013

    “Two mainstream media reporters have tweeted that a violinist played a song referring to a birthplace in the United States upon Obama’s arrival at the Brandenburg Gate in Germany, where he will deliver remarks on the 50th anniversary of President John F. Kennedy’s […]”

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2013/06/19/breaking-born-in-the-usa-played-for-obama-at-brandenburg-gate/

    • Well, we can guess, can’t we? The question is: THIS TIME, is Barry being bookended by two popular rock groups giving free concerts, so they can pretend that the quarter million turned out to see Barry?

      • “Obama Visits Berlin Receives Dismal Turnout – Then and Now – Megyn Kelly – KT McFarland”

        June 19, 2013

        • IF Megyn Kelly cared about TRUTH, Obama might not be in office.
          ********************
          “Bill O’ Reilly and Megyn Kelly Think Newspaper Birth Announcements are Legal Documents?”

          At YouTube:

          “And they laugh at US? Megyn Kelly should be disbarred for this interview. She is a Murdoch puppet and a sell out.”

          Uploaded on April 16, 2010

        • If he got a dismal turnout, it’s because there were no free rock concerts. Seriously? Did they say his turnout was bad? You know what they were spinning on the national news? That the crowd of several thousand was “by invitation only.” So, is that true? Or do they just make that up in order to cover for the fact that nobody really cared? Even in 2008, it was a farce and a lie. Today, they talked about the huge crowd he got in 2008. Well, duh, they forgot to mention the rock concerts! How phony and the media just go along with the kabuki theater.

        • Can you believe that he had an 8-inch thick WALL to protect him? He brought his own wall to Berlin! The new Berlin Wall. What kind of optics were those? And they were complaining about the heat, too. What a wuss.

    • I’d like to see the little yellow bellied long legged Mack Daddy play that song here. What a chicken

  13. Rosemary Woodhoouse

    I was thinking of JFK in Berlin while watching Val kyr ie (with a wink and a nod to the NSA) last night. For those who’ve never seen, it’s a must see film. (Starring Tom Cruise as Col. Cla us von Sta uf fen berg and released in 2008). I wondered how is it that our history books hadn’t lauded von Sta uff enberg and his compatriots as heroes. It then dawned on me with crystal clear realization that history has always been sifted through and edited (Winston Smith!) and most important, that we’ve been lied to (o.k.., mislead) our entire lives!

    p.s. note to n s a snoops : This is an informative post should by no means be construed as malicious. – Julia, slave/employee @ MiniTru.

    • yes, Rosemary this was a good movie. I saw it this past year. Highly recommended.

      • Never saw that movie; might have to check it out! Have you seen the sci-fi show called “Defiance”? It’s full of a lot of progressive nonsense–trying to be the next coming of Star Trek, which itself tried to be “cutting edge” for leftists. Even so, I liked Star Trek, and I generally enjoy Defiance except they’re trying (of course) to normalize things like “group marriage”, prostitution, and lesbianism (in the year 2037 or thereabouts. It’s not really clear when this takes place, but it’s the future after an apocalypse, set in what was the Midwest). Anyway, there are some political nasties, of course, representing infiltrators from the evil tyrannical Earth government. The government is said to be a “republic”, to which the town of Defiance doesn’t belong, being on what appears to be the frontier. What amused me is that in the preview for the next episode, one of the political nasties (a traitor who’s in cahoots with alien invaders) says, “Mistakes were made.” It cracked me up! Seeing as how the themes in this series are beyond a doubt “progressive”, it’s funny to hear them mock people in the Obama administration by parroting their catch phrases. May the worm keep turning!

  14. It occurs to me that there’s a reason they talk about how many “authorized” queries there were of metadata. (Supposedly 300 last year.) They didn’t ask them how many UNAUTHORIZED queries took place in 2012. Did they?

    In addition, Alexander (beer buddy of Holder, so hardly an apolitical, objective person) said multiple times what they’re “not authorized to do.” Somebody should have asked him, too, how many times they did things they aren’t “authorized” to do, anyway.

    The FACT that they’re not authorized to do something is not an answer to a question about whether or not they do it. Congresspersons should have been much more specific and more careful in their questions. They know these guys parse. When Alexander said, in response to a question, that they’re not “authorized” to do something, they should have asked him whether or not he knows of anybody anywhere in this government (or any contractor for anybody in the government) who DOES IT ANYWAY.

    Now that I think about it, they should have asked him if any part of our government enlists anyone else anywhere in the world to do for them, on their behalf, what the NSA is not “authorized” to do.

    Alexander sometimes said, “we’re not authorized to do that and we don’t do it.” But does ANYONE else do it for them?

    Like Barry, because they’re his minions, you have to careful parse and analyze ever answer they give and especially notice alternate meanings for what they do say and take note of what they do not say. Oh, how I wish I could sit on any of those panels or be in a WH presser.

    • I watched Greta Van Susteran last night and she kept using the same phrase I did: We’re supposed to “trust them.” I don’t and I trust them even less after that hearing yesterday AND after reading how Alexander and Joyce were joking about owing Holder a beer because Joyce helped Alexander get his own complicit butt out of a sling. I say this because this man has definitely misled Congress by parsing. If he couldn’t answer questions because he believed it should be answered in a top secret meeting or because he thought executive privilege applied, or whatever, then he should have said that and not searched for the “least untruthful” answer he could think up.

    • but Ron Paul on radio today with hannity explains that of say 300 authorizations for metadata involves millions of people not listed for inquiry. That’s what they’re not telling. Let’s see if I can explain. Say you get authorization to follow one individual’s data, you then have authorization to request any one else’s data that may ‘potentially’ have any relation to the one individual….so potentially the one authorization opens up the gate to request any or all other metadata from any sources because of the one authorization. So 300 authorizations is a drop in the bucket of the potential individuals ‘s whosse information has been gleaned and they can lie and dodge the question.
      The stories that only foreign individuals are able to be tracked for national security purposes is so much a lie. .Next time I call Time Warner for some tech advice about my cable or computor and the little Pakistani or Indian guy that answers the phone, I’m going to ask him if my phone call is being recorded for quality control.

      • I believe it completely and I don’t believe ANYTHING told us by anyone in Obama’s administration and, sad to say, that includes highly decorated and long-serving military guys like Alexander and even Petraeus (who at least left).

        • right Miri, and as you asked the question, did they or someone do something they weren’t authorized to do? they weren’t asked that question. Like I said one authorization opens the door for potentially thousands of other people. And where this body of gov. is supposedly under some sort of oversight and aurthorization…..the CIA absolutely doesn’t have to answere to anyone, especially for security matters. They operate under a cloak all the time without oversight, without authorization.

  15. Excellent post Miri Thank you. 🙂

  16. Yep… stay in school….get an education…and learn to write….cool!

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3033384/posts

    • This sickens me. Why doesn’t she just go for broke and challenge Hillary in 2016? Lack of experience or intellect didn’t stop her husband. So what’s their plan? 8 years of progressivism under Hillary and then 8 under Mooch, starting in 2025? If people think Barry is bad, just wait until she has the POWER. Confiscation and necklacing? So this explains her bizarre comments in Ireland:

      “MICHELLE Obama dazzled Dublin with her grace and charm, [?!!!! The girls showed grace and charm, too.]and almost outshone her husband in Belfast with her eloquence, sounding every inch the professional politician. [That’s what I thought when I saw her speak that time with snot running down her face.] And that is exactly what could be on the cards for her.

      The talk in Washington is that she is a politician-in-waiting with her eyes on a particular seat.

      “She (Michelle) is only waiting for the right time,” a Washington political insider told me. And 2016 would fit that bill.

      By then, her husband will be ending his second term and she would have no campaigning constraints. And 2016 also happens to be the year that a US Senate seat will be up for grabs in her native state of Illinois.

      Republican senator Mark Kirk, who won her husband’s old seat there, is up for re-election that year and Mrs Obama would have little trouble getting the nod from the Democratic Party.

      She would be a fundraising magnet with the power of the Obama political machine behind her. A poll has even been carried out on her chances in a hypothetical match-up against Mr Kirk. It had her leading 51pc to 40pc.

      She would be a formidable candidate. A lawyer and an intellectual powerhouse, who excelled at Princeton and Harvard Law School, she first met her husband when she mentored him at a Chicago law firm.

      She lacks political experience. But so did another first lady before she went on to become a US senator for New York.

      Hillary Clinton has already blazed the trail for Mrs Obama, and what Mrs Clinton did in New York in 2000, Mrs Obama could do in Illinois in 2016.

      Chicago is also the Obama political power base and it has a strong African-American electorate. Mrs Obama would also do well among Irish-American voters.

      Speaking of grace and charm, I saw a photo in the paper (can’t find it online) that had Mooch standing at some political event in Ireland with Irish politicos. Behind stood Malia, who was looking down and if I had to guess, I’d say she was texting someone. Such grace and charm.

  17. It truly is a scandalanche. EVERY DAY something new. Just tonight, O’Really was arguing that they don’t use drones in the USA. Check it out, Barry. Do your freaking homework! http://rt.com/usa/fbi-director-mueller-drones-947/

    FBI director admits domestic use of drones for surveillance

    The FBI uses drones for domestic surveillance purposes, the head of the agency told Congress early Wednesday.

    Robert Mueller, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, confirmed to lawmakers that the FBI owns several unmanned aerial vehicles, but has not adopted any strict policies or guidelines yet to govern the use of the controversial aircraft.

    “Does the FBI use drones for surveillance on US soil?” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) asked Mr Mueller during an oversight hearing on Capitol Hill Wednesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    Yes,” Mueller responded bluntly, adding that the FBI’s operation of drones is “very seldom.”

    Asked by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California) to elaborate, Mueller added, “It’s very seldom used and generally used in a particular incident where you need the capability.” Earlier in the morning, however, Mueller said that the agency was only now working to establish set rules for the drone program. …”

    And he doesn’t want to say anything more, but keep it all a secret from us and our representatives. TRUST THEM. Another story: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/19/us-usa-security-drones-idUSBRE95I1NW20130619

    Dang. I didn’t know about this hearing. Was it open? Televised? Dang.

  18. http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/daly-attacks-slobbering-over-obamas-1.1435094

    We feel her pain.

    Daly attacks ‘slobbering’ over Obamas
    Taoiseach rejects claim Ireland ‘a nation of pimps, prostituting ourselves in return for a pat on the head

    … Ms Daly, a TD for Dublin North, hit out at the “almost unprecedented slobbering” over the Obama family’s visit. “It’s really hard to know which is worst, whether it’s the outpourings of the Obamas themselves or the sycophantic falling over them by sections of the media and the political establishment,” she said.

    “We’ve had separate and special news bulletins by the State broadcaster to tell us what Michelle Obama and her daughters had for lunch in Dublin, but very little questioning of the fact that she was having lunch with Mr Tax Exile himself,” she said in reference to U2’s Bono.

    She described Mr Obama as a “war criminal”, having “just announced his decision to supply arms to the Syrian opposition, including the jihadists, fuelling the destabilisation of that region, continuing to undermine secularism and knock back conditions for women. [WOW!]

    Ms Daly said: “This is the man who is in essence stalling the Geneva peace talks by trying to broker enhanced leverage for the Syrian opposition by giving them arms – and to hell with the thousands more who’ll lose their lives, or the tens of thousands who will be displaced.

    “This is the man who has facilitated a 200 per cent increase in the use of drones which have killed thousands of people, including hundreds of children. …”

    If only our legislators would speak truth to power like that. She’s like an Irish Sarah Palin.

  19. June 20, 2013

    “Hannity To Playboy: Obama Went To Muslim School In Indonesia; Or Wherever It Was; Kenya”
    ====================
    “Sean Hannity To Playboy: Obama Went To Muslim School In Indonesia; Or Wherever It Was; Kenya”

    By David Hochman @ Playboy Magazine

    EXCERPT VIA PLAYBOY:

    “PLAYBOY: Trump was one of the most vocal skeptics of Obama’s American citizenship. You’ve also said Obama grew up in Kenya. Do you regret saying that now?

    HANNITY: But he did grow up in Kenya, and he told The New York Times that he went to a school there and one of the most beautiful things on the planet is Islamic prayer at sunset.

    PLAYBOY: Are you fueling the myth that Obama’s a Muslim from Africa by saying that?

    HANNITY: I never fueled the myth. How do you come up with this stuff? He did go to a Muslim school. He writes about it in his own book.

    PLAYBOY: He did not grow up in Kenya.

    HANNITY: He went to a Muslim school in Indonesia, or wherever it was, Kenya. I forget. Now you’ve got me. I think it was Indonesia. I’m trying to remember his biography. It’s going back so long. He admits he went to a Muslim school. It’s on his audiobook, if you want a tape of it—you can hear him say it himself.”
    ====================
    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/hannity-to-playboy-obama-went-to-muslim.html

  20. Brian Reilly’s comment at ORYR:

    The following U.S. Senators and Representatives were provided the same Obama identity documentation that I provided to Sheriff Arpaio on August 22, 2011. The following Senators and Representatives received the information in August, 2011. For 22 months they have been silent about Obama’s ID fraud. They are: Shelby; Hutchinson; Posey; Goodlatte; Broun; West; Steve King; Poe; McClintock; Farenthold; Chris Smith; Peter King; Sandy Adams; Coble; Franks; Pence; Garrett; Boehner; Mike Lee; Rand Paul, Rubio; Ryan; Cantor; McCarthy; Issa; Walberg.

    The failure of Congress to act is why we approached Sheriff Arpaio in 2011.”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/rep-duncan-under-fire-over-obama-id-fraud.html#IDComment665041996

    • There IS no Obama identity documentation, so what could have been provided to anyone?

      • I can’t speak for Brian Reilly, but he’s probably referring to research which questions the identity documentation used by Obama.

        • September 18, 2011

          Jerome Corsi:

          “Brian Reilly, a spokesman for the Surprise Tea Party, told WND he is pleased with Sheriff Arpaio’s decision to assign the investigation to the Cold Case Posse and he and the other members of the Surprise Tea Party are looking forward to cooperating with the sheriff’s investigation.

          “I believe Sheriff Arpaio and his Cold Case Posse will be thorough and complete in their investigation,” Reilly said.

          Reilly said that he and the other members of the Surprise Tea Party are encouraged that the Cold Case Posse assigned by Arpaio to conduct the investigation into the authenticity of the Obama birth certificate are qualified by their career backgrounds to conduct a serious investigation.

          “I am confident that this investigation will be professional and unbiased,” Reilly said, “and I am certain that the highly distinguished Cold Case Posse appointed by Sheriff Arpaio will seek to discover the truth in the matter.””

          http://www.wnd.com/2011/09/346201/

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        🙂

  21. June 20, 2013

    Steve McCann:

    “The Self-Delusion of the American Political Establishment”

    “For many decades it has been tacitly understood among those in both party hierarchies the role that each play in the kabuki theatre that is the American Political Establishment. For the Democrats, it has been to be the presumptive champion of the downtrodden and disenfranchised, and for the Republicans to be the promoters of free enterprise as an unending and growing source of income for the state, while maintaining some semblance of mitigating government spending. Both actors have been content in the knowledge that each party would at some point have control of various levers of government be it the White House or one or both Houses of Congress.

    The self-deluded fools in the American Political Establishment refuse to comprehend the long-term peril the country faces as well as the reality that the tactics of the Obama Regime are no different than those of Hitler or Mussolini in the early years of their dictatorship. That entity must be, therefore, be dismantled.”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/06/the_self-delusion_of_the_american_political_establishment.html

    • He never had any magic over there. It was all a sham, just as it was a sham here. They gave free rock concerts before and after his speech in 2008. The media constantly leave out that FACT. The people had to sit through Barry in order to see the next free act.

    • # 2. above… (suggests he’s his lost magic) when O….
      called George Osborne “Jeffrey” it wasn’t just a small misunderstanding –

      Obama seemed generally distracted and mentally elsewhere. Something’s weighing on his mind.

      WOW! … can ~ LC be correct… the Jinn IS OUT of HIS BOTTLE???

      • He’s an idiot. One has to wonder whether he’s on drugs or what. Maybe he WANTED to insult the guy. Who knows? He mixes up the names of towns in Oklahoma and thinks there are 58 states and mixes up George Osborne with Jeffrey. It’s like this: Could he or his staff AT LEAST give enough thought to protocol to BOTHER to study the right names? Could they PRACTICE it, or is it just too much to ask? It’s like with those girls. Could EITHER of their parents (or Grandma Robinson) or at least the staff BOTHER to school them on how to behave in public? Especially when they’re supposedly representatives of the USA? Did you ever see Fergie’s kids act so rudely? I know we’re not supposed to criticize the kids, but when they are taking advantage of the largesse of the taxpayers, when WE the People spend millions to let them travel the world, the very least they could do would be to act grateful and sacrifice themselves for a few moments (or even days) by PRETENDING to be interested in something besides themselves, especially be interested in their HOSTS and HOSTESSES and be gracious little ladies.

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  22. This explains the refusal of some of Obama’s critics to ascribe immoral motives to him or his fellow progressives, or to believe they could really have done, or be doing, what the facts reveal. On September 11, 2012, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton did what collectivist tyrants do — and then they did the other thing collectivist tyrants do, namely lie shamelessly about their actions. The facts, the witnesses, and the gaping holes in the administration’s lies were all available from the outset. The “free press” pursued none of these, instead actively obfuscating the facts, burying the witnesses, and dutifully disseminating the lies. They wished to save the re-election campaign of inhuman creatures, and in doing so they masked the even deeper horror that full and immediate revelation might have exposed, namely that inhuman brutality is no anomaly among Marxist-progressives, but rather the raison d’être of progressivism itself.
    ~from article below Daren Jonescu @ AT~

    • “Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself.”

      Quoted by ~ Jean-Francois (Ricard) Revel

  23. I don’t know about you, but I don’t buy this for one Chicago millisecond:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/18/bill-ayers-obama-should-be-put-on-trial-for-war-crimes/

    Bill Ayers: Obama should be put on trial for war crimes

    Bill Ayers, the Weather Underground co-founder who once supported President Obama, now thinks the commander-in-chief should be put on trial for war crimes.

    Ayers made the comments during an interview with Real Clear Politics. The former leader of a domestic terror group ripped the sitting president over his continuation of the U.S. drone program.

    Asked if Obama should go on trial for war crimes, he said: “Absolutely, every president in this century should be put on trial” at The Hague.

    “Every one of them goes into office, an office dropping with blood and then adds to it,” he said. “And yes, I think that these are war crimes. I think they’re acts of terror.

    Obama, during a speech last month on counterterrorism policy, defended his administration’s practice of taking out terror operatives overseas with drone strikes. He also announced new checks on the program.

    Obama has tried to distance himself from Ayers, who previously lived in the same neighborhood as Obama and once served on a charitable board with him.

    The Weather Underground, when it was active during the Vietnam War period, carried out a series of bombings against U.S. government buildings.”

    It’s rope a dope, dope, dope, dope, which is what anybody who falls for that one is–a dope. He’s just another guy from the neighborhood who’s now pretending, once again, that he and Barry have nothing in common. Barry’s not a commie. He’s not a socialist. He wasn’t friends with the terrorist likes of Bill Ayers. He was; he is now. Bill is carrying his water for him. This is the man who helped start Barry’s political career, right from his very own living room. Who believes this Kabuki theater? Not I.

    • neither do I.

      it goes in the ‘contrived category’ along with Code Pink “heckling” bogus potus and the Lesbian “outbursts” during the “our kids” speech by his wife reported last month.

      just serves as proof something is up when they pay their buddies to pretend outrage. dangerous sneaks and liars colluding as usual.

      • This, imho, is yet another case of PRETENDING. Barry’s a victim. Bush started it. They have something on Barry, which is why he goes along. Puhleeeze. On second thought, I won’t link to the ultimate source. My anti-virus caught a “high” rated virus on Java script (which indicates Alinsky tactics and diversion, imho.) So, I’ll try to find it at another link that’s safe. Here: http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/06/20/nsa-whistleblower-nsa-spying-%E2%80%93-and-blackmailing-%E2%80%93-top-government-officials-and-military (Don’t go to the boiling frogs site.) THIS IS TALKING ABOUT THE NSA WHEN BUSH WAS PRESIDENT:

        NSA Whistleblower: NSA Spying On – and Blackmailing – Top Government Officials and Military Officers

        NSA whistleblower Russel Tice told Peter B. Collins on Boiling Frog Post News (the website of high-level FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds [which is INFECTED!]):

        Tice: Okay. They went after–and I know this because I had my hands literally on the paperwork [let’s SEE it] for these sort of things–they went after high-ranking military officers; they went after members of Congress, both Senate and the House, especially on the intelligence committees and on the armed services committees and some of the–and judicial. But they went after other ones, too. They went after lawyers and law firms. All kinds of–heaps of lawyers and law firms. They went after judges. [Doesn’t this sound like EXACTLY what we see BARRY doing?] One of the judges is now sitting on the Supreme Court that I had his wiretap information in my hand. Two are former FISA court judges. They went after State Department officials. They went after people in the executive service that were part of the White House–their own people. They went after antiwar groups. They went after U.S. international–U.S. companies that that do international business, you know, business around the world. They went after U.S. banking firms and financial firms that do international business. They went after NGOs that–like the Red Cross, people like that that go overseas and do humanitarian work. They went after a few antiwar civil rights groups. So, you know, don’t tell me that there’s no abuse, because I’ve had this stuff in my hand and looked at it. [Trust him. He’s seen it.] And in some cases, I literally was involved in the technology that was going after this stuff. And you know, when I said to [former MSNBC show host Keith] Olbermann, I said, my particular thing is high tech and you know, what’s going on is the other thing, which is the dragnet. The dragnet is what Mark Klein is talking about, the terrestrial dragnet. Well my specialty is outer space. I deal with satellites, and everything that goes in and out of space. I did my spying via space. So that’s how I found out about this. Retired high-level CIA analyst Ray McGovern – the top CIA briefer to numerous presidents – said this a few weeks ago on a radio program:

        McGovern: Which leads to the question, why would [Obama] do all these things? Why would he be afraid for example, to take the drones away from the CIA? Well, I’ve come to the conclusion that he’s afraid. Number one, he’s afraid of what happened to Martin Luther King Jr. And I know from a good friend who was there when it happened, that at a small dinner with progressive supporters – after these progressive supporters were banging on Obama before the election, “Why don’t you do the things we thought you stood for?” Obama turned sharply and said, “Don’t you remember what happened to Martin Luther King Jr.?” That’s a quote, and that’s a very revealing quote. …”

        This was on Huffpo, too, which makes it that much more suspicious. If you go to this link http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/nsa-whistleblower-nsa-spying-on-and-blackmailing-high-level-government-officials-and-military-officers.html there’s more and the gist is that BARRY is being blackmailed out of fear for his life. They end this way:

        “We’re agnostic about McGovern’s theory. We don’t know whether Obama is a total corrupt sell-out … or a chicken. We don’t think it matters … as the effect is the same.” [He is totally corrupt but not a “sell-out”. THIS IS OBAMA. This is HIS PLAN AND THEY’VE JUST TOLD US WHAT HE IS DOING. He IS a chicken, that’s true. Otherwise, why the 8-inch plexiglass in Berlin and WHY did he think he needed a huge swat team of Marines armed with elephant guns to protect him from freaking CHEETAH attacks?]

        It’s a “theory”, you see. It’s spin and a trial balloon, if you ask me. It’s an “explanation: for the obots for why their savior MIGHT be capitulating. It’s so the DemoncRATS don’t continue to lose their base, as we see that Barry’s LOSING THE YOUNG at an alarming rate. Barry MUST be made a victim and there must be a DEMON identified–find one, target him (GWB), demonize him, personalize it, per Alinsky tactics.

        This completely turns reality on its head, but it’s good spin to set the stage for what is coming out and may be coming out shortly. So now the left are the tin-foil-hat conspiracy theorists.

        Now we’re supposed to believe that … who? The neo-cons, WANTED OBAMA–a communist who is destroying (fundamentally changing) the USA and destroying our economy and the Constitution? And they CONTROL HIM! Right.

        And what else? Hillary will be the savior of us all? Those evil GWB neo-cons just KNEW that Hillary was squeaky clean in 2008 and unable to be blackmailed into submission, so they went with Barry instead? OMG. This is insane.

        • http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/nsa-ordered-wiretap-of-obama-in-2004.html ORYR take on this same story. I just found it. Note the first comment! I agree. They really think we’re stupid.

        • About this Tice guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Tice

          “Russell D. Tice (born 1961) [Where did he go to school? Hawaii, perhaps? 😉 ] is a former intelligence analyst for the U.S. Air Force, Office of Naval Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), and National Security Agency (NSA). During his nearly 20 year career with various United States government agencies, he conducted intelligence missions related to the Kosovo War, Afghanistan, the USS Cole bombing in Yemen, and Operation Iraqi Freedom. [Is he perhaps an Islamist, like Brennan?] In December, 2005, Tice helped spark a national controversy over claims that the NSA and the DIA were engaged in unlawful and unconstitutional wiretaps on American citizens. He later admitted that he was one of the sources that were used in The New York Times reporting on the wiretap activity in December 2005[citation needed].

          Tice received national attention as a whistleblower in May 2005, after speaking publicly about alleged retaliation by government officials for reporting his suspicions that a DIA colleague might be a Chinese spy, and about the need for legislation to protect whistleblowers. …

          Tice was terminated by the NSA in May 2005, just days after publicly urging Congress to pass stronger protections for federal intelligence agency whistleblowers facing retaliation. In September 2005, the inspector general issued an unclassified report that found “no evidence” to support Tice’s claims[citation needed].

          In December 2005, Tice alleged the NSA and the DIA were engaged in unlawful and unconstitutional conduct against the American people, and helped spark a national controversy. Tice stated that the activities involved the Director of the NSA, the Deputies Chief of Staff for Air and Space Operations, and the U.S. Secretary of Defense, and were conducted via very highly sensitive intelligence programs and operations known as Special access programs (SAP), more commonly referred to as ‘black world’ programs, or ‘black ops’. Tice was a technical intelligence specialist dealing with SAP programs and operations at both NSA and DIA[citation needed] .

          On December 16, The New York Times revealed that the NSA was engaged in a clandestine eavesdropping program that bypassed the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court. Media reports on January 10, 2006, indicated Tice was a source of the Times leak, which revealed that, under the direction of the White House and without requisite court orders, the NSA has been intercepting international communications to and from points within the US[citation needed] .

          Tice’s resume was unclassified which had “shown” that he was in Space Communications. When asked about whether he’s connected with Space Communications in any way in an interview on the website for Wired Magazine, he responded, “I watch Buck Rogers.” …

          On January 3, 2006, Tice appeared on the national radio/TV show Democracy Now! [COMMUNIST SHOW] and said he wants to testify before Congress. Tice said “I’m involved with some certain aspects of the intelligence community, which are very closely held, and I believe I have seen some things that are illegal.” …

          In reaction to Tice’s claims, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly, two prominent figures in conservative media, launched an offensive against his credibility. On his Fox News broadcast of January 11, 2006, O’Reilly said that Tice should be jailed for his whistleblowing activity. But Tice told ABC News that “As far as I’m concerned, as long as I don’t say anything that’s classified, I’m not worried… We need to clean up the intelligence community. We’ve had abuses, and they need to be addressed.” …

          On May 12, 2006, thinkprogress.org [We know who THEY are–Podesta and Hillary, among others.] reported a story by CongressDaily in which Tice was said to be planning an appearance the next week before the Senate Armed Service Committee, when further revelations would be made on “a different angle” of the NSA’s surveillance program.[3] Ultimately this did not occur and it is still unclear why. …

          On July 26, 2006, he was subpoenaed to appear before a federal grand jury regarding violations of federal law. He reportedly said “This latest action by the government is designed only for one purpose: to ensure that people who witness criminal action being committed by the government are intimidated into remaining silent.”[4]

          On the first of two consecutive appearances on MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann (January 21[5] and January 22,[6] 2009), Russ Tice stated that while he worked in the NSA, his role was to follow the communications of specific individuals in a program separate from the one that had been previously disclosed. …”

          I left a lot out. No clue WHO he is or if he EVER worked in the role he claims. I don’t know what to make of this guy, but since he’s a hero of the progressives …

          • He’s adding to his list of who’s spied on. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/nsa-whistleblower-nsa-spyed-on-to-gain-leverage-general-petraeus-and-other-generals-supreme-court-justice-alito-and-all-of-the-other-supreme-court-justices-and-the-white-house-s.html

            “… We asked highly-credible NSA whistleblower William Binney what he thought about Tice’s statements. Binney told us:

            I can not validate what he is saying. This, however, is not out of the question that our government or parts thereof would in fact do this. Certainly the capability is there. …”

            Certainly, it is. NOW. What’s your gut check on this one? Who took the programs that were designed to keep us safe SIDEWAYS and against the CONSTITUTION? Who do YOU think? Binney is highly credible, imho. This Tice guy seems not so much.

            SAME AGE as Barry. I’m just sayin’.

          • Did you know that Lord Snowden’s girlfriend once lived and worked in China? I heard that on radio and went looking and found a story that confirms it. Apparently, she’s now MISSING, too. http://patterico.com/2013/06/16/snowdens-girlfriend-now-missing-previously-visited-china-and-spoke-of-her-desire-to-travel-to-hong-kong/

          • Tice’s resume was unclassified which had “shown” that he was in Space Communications. When asked about whether he’s connected with Space Communications in any way in an interview on the website for Wired Magazine, he responded, “I watch Buck Rogers.” …

            “I watch Buck Rogers.” …yeah, and I bet Mark and Joseph Ndesandjo sat at your same table Mr. Tice…. watching Buck Rogers of course!

            Time to re-visit some of our old research on “the family?”

            A refresh on just a small part of the family’s intelligence connection’s –

            Starts here –

            https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/09/08/declaration-of-independence-from-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-62241

            Read all the way down the link.

            Again, just a small part of the research done @ wtpotus on the connections of mark and Joseph Ndesandjo working with intelligence. Remember that Mark graduated with space communications as part of his degree. [posted on one of the wtp links]

            • Great memory, once again, Leza. We must not forget that “brother” Joey is in surveillance. What a coinkidink that Tice is the same age as Barry. A contemporary. Malik’s connection to Alton Baysden. So many strange connections. I’m still curious about little Lord Snowden, who seems to have no existence in the people searches. A spook. He said so himself. A spy for all his life, he said, iirc. And his name? Curious that it’s the same as that character in the book Catch-22 (about a no-win situation)–a character who literally “spills his guts.” Now didn’t Tice imply that he isn’t in Space Communications? He watched Buck Rogers. In that Washington blog story, he said:
              “Well my specialty is outer space. I deal with satellites, and everything that goes in and out of space. I did my spying via space. So that’s how I found out about this.”

              I’m guessing that they put his resume out there to show that he wouldn’t KNOW about these programs that he professed to be leaking about and then he tried to mislead everyone about what he did. So now he admits to Olbermann that he’s in satellites and space communications. I’d like to know what schools he went to. Where he was born. That he has been connected to so many progressive and leftist media people doesn’t lend him any credibility. I still think it’s a disinformation attempt, to innoculate Barry somehow. To say, see it started with GWB. He’s the one who took it so rogue and spied on Congress, judges, etc. There was NO inkling of any of that when Bush was POTUS, but there’s sure PLENTY of curious stuff happening once Barry got into power. Of course, the fact that he was a shoo-in and was supremely sure that he WOULD win in 2008–that was curious. Maybe one of our “allies” got hold of something and used it in 2008. I cannot fathom that GWB’s people would in ANY way want Barry in power. IF they have something so big on him, then he would be doing EVERYTHING that Karl Rove wants and you wouldn’t be seeing McLame jumping whenever BARRY pulls the strings.

  24. Well, why not? What’s good for the boss must be good for the underlings, huh? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-19/background-checks-faked-with-lax-oversight-watchdog-says.html

    Background Checks Faked With Lax Oversight, Watchdog Says

    Investigators charged with conducting background checks of U.S. national-security workers have falsified records and aren’t receiving adequate oversight, according to an inspector general’s testimony.

    One worker fabricated 1,600 credit checks before it was discovered her own background investigation had been falsified, Patrick McFarland, inspector general of the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, said in prepared testimony obtained by Bloomberg News in advance of a Senate hearing tomorrow. [And who is this person, when was she hired, and what punishment did she get, if any?]

    While 18 investigators, including contract and government employees, have been convicted of falsifying reports since 2006, McFarland said the inspector general’s office lacks the resources to clear a backlog of an additional 36 cases.

    “My office has been alarmed for several years about the lack of oversight,” he said in his written testimony. “Our resources remain woefully inadequate, preventing us from performing the level of oversight that such an important program requires.”

    McFarland provided few details about the cases.

    Passing a government background check is a requirement before the employee or a contractor is granted a security clearance.

    Two Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs subcommittees plan to hold a hearing addressing the government’s security-clearance process.

    The Office of Personnel Management is responsible for some 90 percent of the background investigations of U.S. government employees and contractors. The Pentagon and Department of Homeland Security are the biggest users of the program.

    The personnel office conducts more than 2 million investigations a year, according to its website. It vets applicants for federal agency jobs and applicants for security clearances. …”

    There are vacant inspector general positions, but Barry doesn’t want to fill them. I wonder why?

  25. June 20, 2013

    “Team Arpaio: We Have Two 1961 Hawaii Birth Certificates That List Negro Not African”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/team-arpaio-we-have-two-hawaii-birth-certificates.html

      • Are these new interviews? If so, can you point us to the pertinent spots? I don’t have time to listen to recaps of the same stuff over again. The one starts with the usual: tell us about your background, Mike Zullo. I wish that ORYR would do this for us. Provide a transcript of the NEW stuff. Sometimes I just don’t have time or the inclination to listen to the same thing over and over, with NOTHING ever coming of it.

        NO offense to you, though, Gordo. I do appreciate you tipping us to this stuff. I forget to check over there, but the layout of their site is irritating because of what I said above. TRANSCRIPTS would be wonderful. Even if only of the new stuff. Or at least if ORYR would EDIT the video and include the stuff they want us to focus on. They could still link to the full video.

        • I’m gathering that their point is that they have two OTHER birth certificates with parent/s from Africa where the persons were coded as “Negro” and not as “African” for race. That makes sense and isn’t surprising. There are probably thousands! But the obots will spin, nevertheless. What we need is BARRY’S documentation.

        • Show from today – beginning at 3:30 pm central.
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          I usually download these YouTubes and listen while doing something else – reading, posting, etc.
          ====================
          Easy-to-use “YouTube” video downloader (combined with a very high-quality audio/video player).

          “SMPlayer”

          https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/gordos-pc-hints/comment-page-2/#comment-110229

  26. Philip Berg…. we remember him…. gets 2 year Suspension…Oh

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=425830

  27. Robert Laity receives a visit from 2 Secret Service over Tweet
    @ post&email

    http://beforeitsnews.com/obama-birthplace-controversy/2010/09/162354-162354.html …. + his comments from 2010

    • Oh, there’s the word of the week: “Nativist”. This is the JournOlist meme for pushing immigration reform. If you oppose it, you’re a racist, bigoted nativist.

      I haven’t a clue who he is. I never heard of him and there’s no mention of his name on this blog, in 4 years worth of comments.

    • They linked to a FOX News video from years ago. Apparently, he once ran against McCain. Just because FOX covered his challenge to a sitting Senator, does that make him a “darling” of theirs?

    • I’ll see your Simcox and raise you a Delagarza! http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/infamous-mesh-mask-bank-robber-connected-to-19-bank-robberies-is-top-immigrant-rights-activist/

      Infamous ‘Mesh Mask’ Bandit – Connected to 19 Bank Robberies – Is Top Immigrant Rights Activist

      Luis Delagarza, 59, of Farmers Branch, Texas was one of the top immigrants rights activists in northern Texas. This week he was arrested in connection with 19 bank robberies in the Dallas area.

      Delagarza has been a prominent immigrant rights activist in Mexico for years.
      The Dallas News reported:

      De la Garza, a Mexican immigrant, spoke out about immigration policies, including those in Farmers Branch, where he has lived for at least a decade.

      He was credited with developing a low-power Spanish-language television station, TeleAmerica, in the 1990s and had served on a prominent advisory committee of about 100 immigrants to the Mexican government’s Foreign Relations Ministry. …”

      What do you want to bet he was a “darling” of progressive TV? I wonder if he’ll get amnesty for his felonies so he can be a RPI, too?

  28. June 20, 2013

    “New Whistleblower: Financial Aid Given To Obama As Foreign Student With Indonesian Citizenship”

    “Press Release: Law Offices of Dr. Orly Taitz;

    A whistle-blower from Higher Education Services Corporation in Albany New York came forward and advised Attorney Orly Taitz that she personally reviewed Barack Obama’s financial aid information, which stated that financial aid was given to Obama as foreign student and as a citizen of Indonesia.”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/whistleblower-financial-aid-given-to.html

    • +++++++++++++++
      “FLASHBACK: Obama’s Indonesian Stepsister Dies: Obama Referred As Adopted/Foster Brother”

      details here:

      http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/obamas-indonesian-stepsister-dies.html

      continue reading here:

      https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/08/07/liaobamas-adopted-sister-died-suddenly

    • Wow. A citizen of Indonesia when he transferred to Columbia, huh? I would say that’s pretty darned problematic for him. He was 20 when he went to Columbia–that is, if he really was born in 1961. Covering all their bases might explain why they possibly lied about his age; he may be two years older. He looks it! It would REALLY be problematic for him if he got money as a foreign student, citizen of Indonesia, after the age of majority. I think he had to make an affirmative move to KEEP his Kenyan citizenship by age 22, maybe it was 23. This sure looks to me like the type of thing that would result in automatic renunciation of U.S. citizenship (if you stipulate that he was at least a dual citizen, although he may not have been.) The obots like to argue that a kid can’t give up his citizenship (NOT TRUE) and that his mother couldn’t do it for him. But if he, at the age of 20, CLAIMED his Indonesian citizenship and even got foreign student scholarships based upon it, then I submit that he’s likely NOT ELIGIBLE to be president because he gave up his U.S. citizenship (if he ever had it).

      • I sometimes think all the stories, all the lengthy bits and pieces of investigations,propaganda, some believable and some not so believable,from an obvious fake birth c. to the Martha Trowbridge stories,and so on , have all been dangled out like sticky flypaper,to keep thousands of people stuck on the wrong things,while this guy wrecks the country. Zullo,Joe, Orly and all the rest are perfect characters for this flytrap. Notice, I said I “sometimes” think this.

        • I hear you, alfy. I sometimes feel the same, too. It’s also to confuse the stories so that nobody can grok the truth out of all the flotsam and jetsam thrown around. But like WAH says: a lot of what Lia said rings true. And now she can’t talk anymore.

    • I wish that Orly had the copies of the microfilms and that she’d taken depositions from the whistleblower and her colleagues who all kept copies, they say, of the document. It will be disappeared, if it really exists.

  29. @Miri. “Sure, and you´ll go to Heaven,” as we Irish would say….!! Thank you. God bless from Spain.

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