Flag Day 2013: Long May She Wave (Open Thread)

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Today is Flag Day.  Are you flying your flag?

In 1885, Bernard J. Cigrand, a 19-year old Waubeka, Wisconsin teacher, proposed the idea of Flag Day “to inspire not only his students but also all Americans in the real meaning and majesty of our flag.” Cigrand wrote hundreds of articles advocating to celebrate the day on June 14, the day the U.S originally adopted its national flag.

Rick Moran wrote at American Thinker:

Today, June 14 is flag day. It is a day set aside to honor our national standard and what it represents. The many millions who have fought under the stars and stripes need not be reminded of why it’s important to honor the flag. And for the rest of us, there is that longing that the flag fulfills: it allows us to belong to something greater than ourselves.

Please honor the flag by thinking about those who have fought and died for it, as well as what our national symbol represents.

We the People know that our flag represents freedom.  Today, when our freedom is under attack,  it is more important than ever to honor the traditions that bind us together.

My country tis of thee,
Sweet land of liberty,
Of thee I sing.
Land where my fathers died!
Land of the Pilgrim’s pride!
From every mountain side,
Let freedom ring!

My native country, thee,
Land of the noble free,
Thy name I love.
I love thy rocks and rills,
Thy woods and templed hills;
My heart with rapture fills
Like that above.

Let music swell the breeze,
And ring from all the trees
Sweet freedom’s song.
Let mortal tongues awake;
Let all that breathe partake;
Let rocks their silence break,
The sound prolong.

Our father’s God to, Thee,
Author of liberty,
To Thee we sing.
Long may our land be bright
With freedom’s holy light;
Protect us by Thy might,
Great God, our King!


h/t Zenway.


87 responses to “Flag Day 2013: Long May She Wave (Open Thread)

  1. New open thread. I was looking for a video of “My Country ‘Tis of Thee” but couldn’t find one that wasn’t connected to Obama. Did find Aretha’s and I like her, but she was slurring across words that I THINK are important and that bothered me. I wanted a patriotic rendition, but didn’t have the time to find one. Something traditional. You know?

  2. Two Sharyl Attkisson stories: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/06/14/cbs-news-confirms-multiple-breaches-of-sharyl-attkissons-computer/

    CBS News confirms multiple breaches of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer

    CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson revealed in May that her computer had been compromised. When asked about the situation, CBS News responded with a statement that it was conducting an investigation.

    That investigation has reached the following conclusions, according to CBS News spokeswoman Sonya McNair:

    “A cyber security firm hired by CBS News has determined through forensic analysis that Sharyl Attkisson’s computer was accessed by an unauthorized, external, unknown party on multiple occasions late in 2012. Evidence suggests this party performed all access remotely using Attkisson’s accounts. While no malicious code was found, forensic analysis revealed an intruder had executed commands that appeared to involve search and exfiltration of data.

    This party also used sophisticated methods to remove all possible indications of unauthorized activity, and alter system times to cause further confusion.

    CBS News is taking steps to identify the responsible party and their method of access.” …”

    Good luck to them. I hope they can IDENTIFY the hacker. We could make some educated guesses. OBOTS if not the DOJ. Look at this part, this is a statement from the DOJ:

    To our knowledge, the Justice Department has never compromised Ms. Attkisson’s computers, or otherwise sought any information from or concerning any telephone, computer, or other media device she may own or use.”

    ALWAYS A QUALIFIER, ALWAYS AN OUT–“to our knowledge”. NEVER A SIMPLE NO. They know nothing. Their leader Holder knows nothing. The president formerly known as Soebarkah knows nothing. The head of the frigging FBI knows nothing. Why don’t they ask the obots, who seem to know everything?

    Second story: http://hotair.com/archives/2013/06/14/cbs-news-someone-was-pulling-data-from-sharyl-attkissons-computer/

    CBS News: Someone was pulling data from Sharyl Attkisson’s computer; Update: CBS report added

    [a recap of the CBS story, above, and then:]

    What was going on in “late 2012″? Well, that would have been the controversy over the terrorist attack on our consulate in Benghazi. And, checking the record, we see that Attkisson had a very interesting scoop on October 20th, relying on anonymous military sources that called into question the Obama administration’s claim that they couldn’t have responded in time to assist in the attack:

    CBS News has been told that, hours after the attack began, an unmanned Predator drone was sent over the U.S. mission in Benghazi, and that the drone and other reconnaissance aircraft apparently observed the final hours of the protracted battle.

    The State Department, White House and Pentagon declined to say what military options were available. A White House official told CBS News that, at the start of the attack, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta “looked at available options, and the ones we exercised had our military forces arrive in less than 24 hours, well ahead of timelines laid out in established policies.”

    But it was too late to help the Americans in Benghazi. The ambassador and three others were dead.

    A White House official told CBS News that a “small group of reinforcements” was sent from Tripoli to Benghazi, but declined to say how many or what time they arrived.

    Retired CIA officer Gary Berntsen believes help could have come much sooner. He commanded CIA counter-terrorism missions targeting Osama bin Laden and led the team that responded after bombings of the U.S. Embassy in East Africa.

    “You find a way to make this happen,” Berntsen says. “There isn’t a plan for every single engagement. Sometimes you have to be able to make adjustments. They made zero adjustments in this. They stood and they watched and our people died.”

    Until CBS News releases more from its investigation, we won’t know who hacked into Attkisson’s computer. It could have been a competitor, or someone else with a grudge against her, although one would expect that kind of hack to go after personal details rather than work product. Before the Rosen revelation, the DoJ would have been unthinkable as a suspect. If I were CBS now, though, I’d be executing a FOIA demand to know whether Eric Holder and the Department of Justice acquired a Rosen-like warrant on Attkisson in the days after that scoop went live. …”

    They add at the end that CBS has put out a statement to the effect that they’re not accusing the DOJ. So, as usual, the thugs have called and demanded additions or corrections, I have no doubt.

  3. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/13/chris-matthews-likens-ted-cruz-to-notorious-nazi-sympathizer/ This really did infuriate me when I saw it on O’Really last night:

    ‘It Is the Most Racist Thing!’: Beck Can’t Believe the Outrageous Comment Chris Matthews Used to Bash Ted Cruz

    As we pointed out on Wednesday, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews said Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) “fits the tradition” of notorious Nazi sympathizer Father Charles Coughlin. He also made the outrageous comment that he had a “black Irish look.” On Thursday, Glenn Beck lost it when he heard the comparison.

    “I think this is really staggering what he said here,” Beck said. He went on to say that Coughlin was actually a progressive and not a conservative.

    He’s Hispanic and Cuban!” Beck noted of Cruz and the comment. “It is the most racist thing! I can’t believe we live–!”

    As Urban Dictionary and Newsbusters note, “Black Irish” is a term referring to “one who is of irish decent but has dark hair and olive skin.”

    If you need a refresher, here’s what Matthews said:

    “This guy goes pretty far, but I think he fits in the tradition of Father Coughlin, and [Joe] McCarthy, and of course, and maybe to a lesser extent, Pat Buchanan, and [Bill] O’Reilly. These guys are hard right-wing guys, they look a lot alike — they have what we call the ‘black Irish look’ to them — they don’t smile much.” …”

    So now not only do they want to DENY that Cruz is hispanic (he’s ethnically Cuban, I think, on both sides) but they also want to MAKE HIM “Black Irish” (in other words, WHITE). They think they’re going to FOOL people, especially other hispanics, into thinking Cruz is WHITE and not one of them? They really do FEAR CRUZ, don’t they?

    Not to mention: Is Matthews suggesting that somehow ALL “Black Irish” are racists or crazed loons because they look alike? That IS racist. What the heck ethnic group is Matthews? Well, check it out: He’s allegedly the son of an Orangeman and an Irish Roman Catholic mother, with Matthews himself allegedly being a Catholic. I was ready to ask whether or not he has a problem with Catholics! So it must just be those “black” Irish he doesn’t feel akin to. He looks like an Orangeman to me (Anglo invaders of Ireland, whereas the Black Irish are the original peoples of Ireland).

    • I said from the beginning he was Blackmailed. 😦

      • Yes, you did. You know, it reads like he was blackmailed with being exposed for “illegally” adopting but I think the threat had to be nothing less than the children’s mothers being found and paid to claim stolen or intimidated to ‘sell’ and the result being the children being sent back to the birth mothers — who really don’t want them but are being both bribed and threatened to take back and his kids would end up in Irish foster system, etc..

  4. June 15, 2013

    “Sheriff Mack: Obama ID Fraud Scandal Biggest Story In World; No Question Obama Birth Certificate Fake; State Attorneys General Should File Charges”


    • these things are beginning to sound like infomercials with people touting all the credentials to support the evidence, but stretching out the story for ever.

      • What is really scary is the believers, the informed, and the studied of the ineligibility and crimes of fraud of/by Obama are just about at the point of losing their tenacious attention span waiting for the elastic (stretching out the story) to snap back. We are starting to wonder if we are behaving like an abused spouse in need of courage and awareness to walk away.

        • Rosemary Woodhouse

          Brilliant, WAH. Yes, weary. This isn’t going anywhere. Obama will finish his term, as the gutless wonders in congress are spineless jellyfish. Amnesty will probably pass and the Marxists will have won. Joe McCarthy has been vindicated. Obama absolutely served his purpose in paving that way for a One World Religion and the New World Order. So, clearly, although he was The Won, he is not The One. They succeeded in wearing us down and frankly, Americans are no longer Americans. We have allowed our genius and productivity to be shipped overseas. Dependent takers are easy prey. The few loyal flag waving patriots are the minority.

          Sorry to be a Negative Nellie, but WAH typed exactly what I’ve been feeling for awhile. Will the person who shuts the light and draws the curtain at least have the common decency to play Taps? I’m not abandoning ship here, but I am no longer hopeful that anything will affect Obama. He’s Teflon Man. Protected. The Won.

          • Back in the late seventies and early eighties a popular bumper sticker in Detroit area was “The last one out, turn off the lights.” atop the Detroit skyline with one window still lit. It took another thirty years for everyone to realize the last one did not turn off the lights or cancel the utilities and the squatters took over. And…..still we are looking for the last person to flip the switch and cut everything off.

            I suggest those of us left get small tattoos of the gadsen snake and have our grandchildren go through a ritual, similar to a barmitvah, where they have to recite the Constitution and give a speech on it as well. They then are presented with contraband (an American Flag, a gun, and a tattoo) We cannot preserve the country, America, but we can see Freedom rises in a generation or two. We can see Freedom is in the hearts of our young. What an event for conversation amongst our grandchildren, “Can you believe it? Grandma, OUR grandma got a tattoo? And a snake. She thinks it means………” They may not agree with us due to their brainwashing but they will hear themselves speak the truth when talking about their outrageous grandparents. James, in the New Testament talks about the importance of the not only the tongue but the power it has when the words are your own being heard. Sort of like we we always told a problem is not a problem until you hear your voice speak it.

            Some of my ideas are outrageous but we must find a way to pass the desire for freedom. If youth who have been tatted can not go to college or get good jobs or housing, guess what happens? They have to practice capitalism amongst themselves to survive; that and community. The subculture exists with individual survival as a forefront and that breeds desires for individual freedoms; makes one burn with desire for it. The desire is stronger for this individual than for the person who has been a slave their entire life with no concept of freedom. Sure, just as males were checked to see if circumcised there might come a time when we will be checked for the snake. Remember, it is being marked but it is OUR mark and not theirs issued to us.

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            I love how you articulate your ideas, WAH, but as wonderful as the reverse mark idea is, God plainly instructed.

            Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
            Leviticus 19:28

            Now, as **their** messiah (little “m”) pointed out, how many of us actually follow the laws clearly outlined in Leviticus? Very few. Although we probably all could do better in that regard (I certainly can , I try to err on the side of “it is written”. That law is clear.

          • Wow, Rosemary, I have never read (or if read never “heard”) that before.in Lev. I was not raised with the Bible or born-again believers, but that is for another day. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. Often times Christians will share the Word with unbelievers or new believers but when it comes to ‘among the brethren’ they default to individual interpretation and don’t speak up when one errs. Thank you. And I imagine others wandering around here from time to time may be spoken to as well about tattoos. The Lord used you today. Blessings.

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            I am SO glad to be able to share whatever knowledge of scripture I have, WAH. Thank you. My heart is smiling right now. Blessings to you and everyone here at WTPOTUS.

          • Has anyone read/heard about the stroke/aneurysim (sp) of barry? We need to watch the hands and maybe the ears, again.

    • There is much argument in the comment section at ORYR with Brian Reilly. On the Carl Gallups radio show last Friday, a caller (Tom) asked Gallups about Reilly’s statements regarding Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse”.

      Comments at ORYR:
      (some replies need to be ‘opened’)
      Podcast-segment 7
      (go to 06:11)
      [audio src="http://www.1330weby.com/media/com_podcastmanager/FreedomFriday/2013/6-14/Segment7.mp3" /]

      • What’s the bottom line, though? Anything important said? I didn’t understand which comments you mean.

        • It’s Brian Reilly’s ‘tone’ about the Arpaio/Zullo investigation in comments at the ORYR link (also in other comment threads at ORYR).

          Listen to podcast for response by Gallups.

          • Okay, Gordo. I did read all the comments. Yes, they’re in a real snit of arguing over there, aren’t there? Do they always have to in-fight? It gets old. Orly against Simmons against Zullo against Reilly, etc. “Can’t we all just get along?” 😉

            I’m listening to the podcast now.

            • A caller says that he’s not “trying to be disrespectful” but … First we were told a group of VIPs were going to out Obama in a few weeks. Then we heard that Congress is going to do something. Now he’s hearing that Reilly says that nothing is going to happen until September or October and then it will just be a photo op in DC with Arpaio and Zullo and that’s it. Gallups says he’s been in on this from the beginning and it’s frustrating for everyone. Zullo, Arpaio, and Gallups were all skeptics at first until they got overwhelmed by the evidence. The document examiner was a skeptic, too. He was basically an “Obama operative, if you will.” People start off as skeptics and when they get involved and see the evidence, now they know there’s a crime, but where do you go with it? Not to Holder or the FBI, because Obama runs them. Other FEDERAL agencies are run by them, too, and they can’t charge locally or at the state level, because of a lack of jurisdiction. Media refuse to do it. Oh, they’re all frustrated. Gallups says Reilly’s wrong. VIPs are plotting and planning and trying to figure out how to make this stick when they finally do act. Gallups says that IT MAY BE THAT NOTHING HAPPENS by the time this is all over, but it won’t be because they’re not working hard. (imho, the very LEAST that should happen is that they RELEASE what they DO KNOW to the public.) Gallups says they have enough VIPs involved who are livid that he “thinks” something will happen. He says Reilly’s wrong and Gallups knows what he’s talking about. We’re all supposed to be patient. Gallups knows almost everything and it kills him to know what he knows. It’s frustrating. 40 pages were released when there are 300 pages in the report. (So release the damned report!)

              This isn’t hopeful, imho. They definitely did say something would happen “in two weeks”. WHAT HAPPENED? Nothing.

          • Two comments at ORYR:
            (replies need to be ‘opened’ to see all comments)


            “Again, the announcement/revelation was the CSPOA convention and engagement with Rep. Stockman… Nothing more….”



            “They did….it was the revelation that they have certified document expert, who has written his findings of the birth PDF on the white house web site, and has been used in many court cases for document fraud. The real kicker…he is a Democrat and has testified for the very attorneys on other cases that have defended Obama!! To cool….Now they have a professional who has confirmed and will testify in a court or in hearings that the birth certificate is 100%….A FRAUD!!!!
            That was the news”


            • Yeah, I saw those, but I disagree. Their “news” was not what was telegraphed to us all. We were told there’s irrefutable evidence, something NEW that they learned, something never before revealed and still NOT revealed in the public session by Zullo. So the news is not that they have VIPs (we knew that already) nor that there was a meeting with sheriffs or Rep. Stockman. We were told there was indisputable EVIDENCE found during the investigation. Gallups agrees that he knows more than we do about what the investigation found.

          • I think Reed Hayes was the new ‘news’ Zullo was refering to – what would be released to the public.

            “… Certified Document Examiner Confirms Obama BC Entirely Fabricated – 6/1/2013”

          • Considering the powerful forces opposing this investigation, it might be better to reveal info only on a ‘need-to-know’ basis. I want to know, but I don’t need to know. Miri,I agree with your comment from June 5:

            ““They” want badly to know just what it is that Zullo has that’s “irrefutable” because so far they’ve managed to be two steps ahead with the scrubbing, disappearing, convenient deceasements (I made that word up in honor of GWB), and forging of bogus documents, photos, and biographies. This may be a ploy. I hate to say it but … maybe Zullo’s right to keep this close to the vest. However, the 300 in his presentation WON’T one of them leak something?”

            Miri: “However, the 300 in his presentation WON’T one of them leak something?”

            This ???:

            chupacabra’s comment (at ORYR) about Police Chief Mark Kessler’s remarks on his blogtalk show:

            “Key Kessler Radio Show quotes:

            Not an American

            Not a Kenyan

            Not his real parents

            No record of him in the US for first 5 years of his life”


            • You’re right. I know it makes sense to keep it secret but that basically leaves us where we’ve been for the past five years. We can reasonably BET that somebody in Congress and/or the courts KNOWS who and what Barry is. They KNOW; they chose to look the other way, for their own reasons, and now we’re in this fix. IF it’s true and they know it that he’s not an American, not a Kenyan, and SAD and BHO Sr. are not his real parents, then it’s likely he’s not even a legal president. IF so, then they should impeach him or do whatever they are empowered to do under the Constitution (which they should have done in 2008) to get him out of the office that he has no right to hold. THAT should end all the unconstitutional and Republic-destroying stuff he’s done. But then, again, there are those pesky “dossiers” that they’ve allowed him to collect on everybody. Who wouldn’t have thought he’d do that, anyway? Within a week of getting into the WH, Bill Clinton had the FBI files of his political opponents sent to the WH. Decades later, who would think this tech savvy president formerly known as Soebarkah wouldn’t avail himself of all the powers the NSA has at its disposal, if not legally than via his obot plants in the agency, just as he used the progressive plants at the IRS? What’s frustrating is that Gallups seems to suggest that it’s possible that in the end, we may NEVER learn what it is that Zullo found. In subsequent interviews, Zullo himself seems to refute what Kessler said. Zullo says he doesn’t KNOW if Barry’s eligible and doesn’t know where Barry was born. He said they investigated the document, not the truth behind the document–in other words, he didn’t try to find out where Barry WAS born. Actually, we’ve done better turning up evidence than they have. What have we heard out of the CCP that we didn’t know before? (Our own forensic experts (volunteers) have said the same thing as their expert. Besides which, even a five-year-old can see that document’s fake.)

          • News about Mark Kessler:

            June 11

            Richard’s comment at ORYR:

            “Chief Mark Kessler wrote on his Facebook page about an hour ago that he’s leaving the “birther deal.” Hopefully he clarifies this pretty soon.”

            June 14

            Kessler said on his Friday blogtalk show that he has severed his relationship with Sheriff Mack’s “Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association”.

          • Other podcasts to listen to: Hagmann & Hagmann. this is Doug Hagmann who many of you know from CFP. Very good stuff from Steve Quayle and Pastor Langford.

  5. Long may SHE wave. 🙂

    • Draft Palin 2016

      WTP should start to build our cabinet now.

      • We should! I saw today on Drudge that Chelsea Clinton says it’s time for a woman in the WH. First person I thought of? Governor Sarah Palin, someone who is FAR MORE ACCOMPLISHED than Chelsea’s mother.

  6. http://www.ammoland.com/2013/06/new-ammo-cancels-free-ticket-to-terroist-paradise/#axzz2WE1nlXlh

    “New Ammo Cancels Free Ticket To Terroist Paradise [sic]

    … So how do you deal with religious extremists who believe that dying for their faith is an Express Ticket to Paradise?

    Killing them seems to just give them what they think they want. Only wounding them, as in this recent case, leaves the messy business of a public trial, and in a “civilized” country like England, where they have abolished the death penalty, it means that these young men will probably live out their lives as wards of the government, living martyrs for their cause, and teachers for future generations of young Muslim hooligans who will sit at their feet in taxpayer-funded, prison “Islamic study centers.”

    A company in northern Idaho has come up with a culturally sensitive solution. Jihawg Ammo has developed a proprietary system for infusing ballistic paint with pork. The special pork-infused paint is then applied to the bullets of loaded ammunition. The inclusion of pork in the paint makes the bullets haraam, or unclean. Under Islamic law, anyone who comes in contact with any haraam item is then unclean, and must engage in a cleansing ritual. No unclean person can be admitted into Paradise. Do not pass Go. Do not collect 72 virgins. …”

    The DOJ under Holder will NOT like this one. 😉 I just HAVE to laugh. I’m sorry, but it’s hilarious, if politically incorrect. If you’re not a jihadist, then you have nothing to fear from bacon bullets, do you? (To poorly paraphrase Lindsey Graham’s take on NSA spying on us.)

  7. http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/judge-lamberth-grants-leave-of-court-to.html

    Judge Lamberth Grants Leave Of Court To File Reconsideration In Obama SSN Case

    On June 13, 2013, Judge Lamberth Chief Judge for the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia gave leave of court to file 74 pages of motions and exhibits [embedded below] submitted by Attorney Orly Taitz in case 11-cv-402 Taitz v Astrue (Michael Astrue was the Commissioner of the Social Security at the time the case was originally filed, currently it is Carolyn W.Colvin)

    This is significant, as the motions attached herein show that Barack Obama is using a stolen Social Security number of Harrison J. Bounel, born in 1890, immigrant from Russia, who is presumed to be deceased.

    At the time the case was originally filed and heard, the plaintiffs did not have new information that became available recently. Such information includes recently released census data which shows Harrison J. Bounel being born in 1890, recent disclosure to the public of the 120 year SSA rule, which requires release of SS-5, Social Security original application of “extremely aged individuals”, meaning individuals of 120 years old or older without a consent of such individual and without a death certificate or any other proof of death, as well as recent report from Merlins Information Systems showing Barack Obama using both Bounel’s name and Social Security number in connection to his property at 5046 Greenwood in Chicago as late as 2009.

    All of this information placed Obama in the corner and with no way out. (not counting his planned trip to Africa, ofcourse). Holder Department of Justice has until 06.27.2013 to file an opposition on behalf of the Commissioner of the Social Security Administration, however at this time Social Security Administration cannot provide any justification or opposition. [Huh. That won’t stop them. They’ll simply change the rules in midstream, as they’ve done before or else, as before, the records will simply be “missing” or accidentally destroyed by an unnamed clerk after microfilming, except they didn’t notice until too late that the film was blank. OR something. Know what I mean?] Holder , Obama and Carolyn W. Colvin, new Commissioner of SSA have to produce the application, which was filed by Harrison J. Bounel and which would be sufficient evidence not only for an impeachment of Obama, but also for criminal prosecution of Obama. …”

      • Interesting: “A leave of court is a legal term used to describe asking the court permission to do something that the court doesn’t normally allow according to its rules and procedures. Either party can file this motion, which is often called a motion for leave. It’s commonly used to ask the court to file papers or take some action after a deadline has passed. The party filing the motion has to list a good reason for requesting the court to allow the action out of time, or after the expiration of the date, in order for a court to grant the motion. The party who files the motion often asks the opposing party whether he or she will oppose the filing, and when there is no opposition, the party will indicate so in the motion. …”

  8. http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/06/beck-update-sen-king-drops-bombshell.html

    Rep Steve King To Glenn Beck: Democrats Knew Our Communications And What Websites We Visited During 2012 Election; Senator Mike Lee Will Discuss Claim Chief Justice John Roberts Blackmailed Over Obamacare

    … Glenn Beck was interviewing Rep. Steve King and mentioned that, on Monday, Sen. Mike Lee will appear on the program to discuss the theory that Chief Justice John Roberts was “pressured” into ruling in favor of health care reform, possibly through the use of information gathered by the NSA’s PRISM surveillance program.

    When Beck asked King if he believed that lawmakers were having their personal lives monitored through PRISM and were being blackmailed by it, King responded that there was no doubt that such capabilities existed. In fact, King said, he recently had a private conversation with a Democratic strategist who told him that, during the last election, they knew which websites opposing candidates where [sic: were] visiting.

    That caught Beck’s attention and he asked King to repeat it, which he did, saying “they knew what internet sites we were looking at” and that the revelation “was a pretty chilling thing to go into my ear.” King said he doesn’t know how they obtained such information but he assumes it was through something similar to PRISM …”

    They should ask Maxine Waters. She seems to know.

  9. I’m still with ORLY! can someone get a Reagan Email… in comments
    & they keep hacking /blocking her work.Sad for she has fought 4 us


  10. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/confirmed-obama-irs-targeted-infiltrated-and-harassed-christian-churches/

    Confirmed: Obama IRS Targeted, Infiltrated and Harassed Christian Churches

    The Obama Internal Revenue Service targeted several Christian groups including a 180 year-old Baptist paper.

    The Obama IRS targeted Christian groups including Franklin Graham and the 180 year-old Biblical Recorder.

    The Obama IRS implemented a program to infiltrate and target conservative, evangelical Christian churches. [as with AR-15s and spy equipment, one has to wonder?]
    The Examiner reported:

    On Thursday the Examiner provided an exclusive report indicating that the Obama administration had implemented a covert program beginning in 2009 that was intended to spy on conservative, evangelical Christian churches. [Well, they’re teaching the military reserves that these are religious extremists!]

    That program involved infiltration — sending in government operatives to join churches for the purpose of data collection. The government snoops would keep their eyes and ears open for criticism of the Obama administration, talk of Tea Party participation, conversations about gun ownership, and a number of other issues.

    But a special report issued today by Fox News indicates that the program went far beyond infiltration and snooping. The IRS was used to harass Christian churches if they were identified as places where large numbers of anti-Obama citizens congregated for worship.

    The Obama administration, according to the report, considered any public criticism of administration policies to be political in nature and should therefore impact whether or not these congregations were allowed to gain or keep their tax exempt status. …”

    Why anyone would seem to be surprised that a Chicago thug, who has acted as a Chicago thug in the past, would change his spots and NOT act like a Chicago thug in present and future, is beyond me. Another story that says Graham actually wrote Obama to complain but received no response: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/franklin-graham-i-wrote-obama-about-our-abusive-irs-experience-but-never-heard-back-from-him-video/ So how can Obama profess to have first learned of this IRS outrage in the papers? That probably also explains why Obama has snubbed Mr. Graham–he won’t take abuse lying down, which is what ALL abusers expect (and Muslims, too): SUBMISSION. You will be a dhimmi and LIKE IT.

  11. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-preparing-to-deliver-rebels-arms-through-turkey-and-jordan/2013/06/14/e38dabf2-d522-11e2-a73e-826d299ff459_print.html

    So here’s a surprise and a totally ORIGINAL plan, huh?

    CIA preparing to deliver rebels arms through Turkey and Jordan

    The CIA is preparing to deliver arms to rebel groups in Syria through clandestine bases in Turkey and Jordan that were expanded over the past year in an effort to establish reliable supply routes into the country for nonlethal material, U.S. officials said.

    The bases are expected to begin conveying limited shipments of weapons and ammunition within weeks, officials said, serving as critical nodes for an escalation of U.S. involvement in a civil war that has lately seen a shift in momentum toward the forces of President Bashar al-Assad.

    Syria experts cautioned that the opposition to Assad remains a chaotic mix of secular and Islamist elements, highlighting the risk that some American-provided munitions may be diverted from their intended recipients. …”

    REMEMBER BENGHAZI. We’re supposed to believe that they’re BEGINNING this arming of Syrian jihadist “rebels” via Turkey only just now. This is COVER. They will institute this, with approval of the RINOs, and then, if it DOES come out that they were doing this beforehand, from Benghazi, they will go “ho hum, who cares? That’s old news and doesn’t matter now because Congress and Republicans agree.” Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if they put a clause in the authorization bill to make it RETROACTIVE.

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      They seem to be doing whatever the hell they want. No more checks and balances. Gone.

      • It’s wag the dog. I heard someone opining about this situation on radio or TV; can’t remember which. The expert said that after Assad is overthrown, then what? Well, you’d THINK that the two factions of Islam will be against each other, as in the past, but no. They will UNITE under the one banner that typically unites them: Against ISRAEL and also then the USA. So there’s their caliphate. In fact, that jerk in Egypt was just caught on mic ADMITTING that they consider themselves to be AT WAR with Israel and the USA. http://swampbubbles.com/20130615/hot-mic-catches-egyptian-politician-discussing-%E2%80%98war%E2%80%99-%E2%80%98enemies%E2%80%99-israel-and-america

        “Hot Mic Catches Egyptian Politician Discussing ‘War’ with ‘Enemies’ Israel and America

        ‘The participants learned they were on live TV only after Magdi Ahmad Hussein, chairman of the Islamic Labor Party, suggested that all present vow not to leak any information to the media. Before being told he was on television, Hussein described the U.S. as an enemy:

        I’m very fond of battles. With the enemies, of course – with America and Israel, but this battle must be waged with maximum judiciousness and calm. Even though this is a secret meeting, we must all take an oath not to leak anything to the media, unless it is done officially by sister Pakinam [el-Sharkawy, a Morsi aide]. We need an official plan for popular national security, even if we did…

        ‘The viewer sees him being handed a note, which presumably points out that his words are not confined to the room. Hussein laughs, then continues with the anti-American and anti-Israel rhetoric: “Okay… Fine… The principles behind what I’m saying are not really secret… Our war is with America and Israel, not with Ethiopia. Therefore, engaging in a war… This is my opinion…”

        ‘President Morsi says out for the benefit of all in the room, “This meeting is being aired live on TV,” a comment which prompts laughter all around.

        “Obama, with the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House, just sent these savages $1.3 billion. Autocrats of a feather plot together.”

        • Rosemary Woodhouse

          With their “double” agent (although his allegiance and antagonism could not be clearer) at the helm of their enemy (that would be us) the incipient war is easy peasy. . Just think, this plant….this agent…has the l a unc h co d es.

          Read Daniel, Jeremiah, Isiah, Daniel, Ezekiel (particularly chapters 38-39) and Revelation, please. These books outline exactly what is going down right now and what’s shortly to follow. All foretold. All happening NOW.

          Miri, I again harken to the question you asked the other day about whether we are blessed or cursed for being so tenacious in trying to sound the alarm. I responded we are to be witnesses. We are meant to be here at this time and place in history. Some believe, we CHOSE to be here right here, right now for this very reason….to come through the other side as witnesses.

          • RW, would you believe that I listened to a little of Beck on Friday and he actually said that he was either blessed or cursed with the ability to predict events or recognize their outcomes? It was sort of creepy, given that I said the same thing, more or less, just the other day.

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            Two choices:
            1) Synchronicity
            2) His people read this blog

          • It would not surprise me to learn that they read this blog. 😉

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        Why would it surprise anyone? Best blog. Exclamation point.

  12. So I went looking for the Echelon comments on our blog. Did not find the one by me that I was looking for, so must assume it was at TD’s, because I know it was LONG ago that I mentioned Echelon, probably when we all first began commenting and talked about whether or not they could find us. In any case, we talked about Echelon with regard to that guy who crashed a plane into a building in Texas. Remember?
    https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/amy-bishop/comment-page-2/#comment-6537 (Dave M. first brings it up here.)

    https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/pilots-rant-before-crashing-into-austin-tx-building/comment-page-1/#comment-6609 (Bridgette wrote a post about the plane crashing into the Echelon building.)

    We discuss it all over in both threads. From Bridgette’s post about the incident:

    Fifty-four Year Old Man Intentionally Drives Aircraft into Building in Austin, TX

    A small aircraft crashed into an office building this morning at 10 am in Austin, TX. Within an hour it is known that the fire department just finished putting out the fire at his home at 1800 Dapplegray, Austin, TX. Within only 20 minutes the FBI determined that it was not a terrorist event!

    The Austin Police Chief says this is an isolated incident and not to be alarmed. We are to take his word for that. One hour after the plane hit the building two F-16′s are scrambled and will remain airborne until the area is determined clear. One hour later another commercial airplane is diverted to Utah because of a bomb threat. No update on this.

    Obama gets an update from Brennan at about 12:30 pm. (2 1/2 hours after the event). He sends Giblets out to give an update. Obama boards Air Force One, important fund raising events in Colorado and Nevada to attend. Remember GWB was sent to Colorado for safety.

    Name of homeowner and pilot name is released, Joseph Andrew Stack. Upon checking the pilot licensing and certification database, there is none for Joseph Andrew Stack that I found. This is not reported yet.

    Chief of Police confirms that the aircraft is not a stolen one as reported by disreputable networks. The situation is contained and do not be alarmed according to the Chief. The FBI has sent people from Washington to Austin, TX to investigate.

    Witnesses to the plane crash are to call with their witness information to 210 650-6196, 97, 98.

    The following is a copy of what one blog calls the “Insane Manifesto of the Crash Pilot.” Where they found this is not yet known. It is dated today. …

    [FROM the Insane Manifesto (but on the very end of it; go to the post to read the whole thing):]

    I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

    The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

    The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

    Joe Stack (1956-2010)
    02/18/2010 …”

    Stack was in a disagreement with the IRS. He was a contractor and apparently the IRS was cracking down on contractors who set people up as self-employed to avoid taxes. I just think it’s interesting that he chose the ECHELON building. Why, we wonder?

    Dave M’s comment (linked above):

    “There is another breaking mystery that needs our best detective work.
    I’m watching Fox’s Megyn [Kelly] reporting on this crazy pilot who crashed his plane into a Federal building in Austin. Oh yeah, he also tried to burn to death his wife and daughter.

    Megyn is reporting without comprehension that the building in flames is called the Echelon Building.
    That’s like as if you named your house Chateau Bin Laden.
    You wouldn’t do it accidently
    Echelon was once top secret but now it is out in the public domain.
    Heck, you can even google it.
    Echelon is the supercomputer cluster that scans every electronic
    communication on the planet, (including this one).

    I have no idea what happened today but something smells
    well and truly weird. It’s as if the entire WH security team just has been vindicated and proof that further crackdowns are needed is now beyond discussion.
    Maybe all is as it seems.
    But this doesn’t feel right.
    I’m glad no one in the building was hurt.
    It is being reported that the pilot of the plane was killed.
    Nobody at Fox News knows the word “Echelon”?
    Hard to believe

    There’s something in comments about a database being destroyed (or maybe they worried that it was). I didn’t read it all. But it sure is CURIOUS. This is from 2010.

  13. http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2006/04/cens-a05.html
    just thought I’d do a bit of retrospective checking….notice how everyone is upset for the press getting hold of this info.

    • Sorry to comment where I did, it appears as though I’m commenting on the plane crash, Echelon story. No, this was the Bush hearings…in ? 2006..on treasonous information gathering. just thought I’d take a look at how it was discussed then..there are other pieces out there, but this was a good tidbit.

    • “… The empty chairs at Friday’s Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on a motion to censure President Bush for repeatedly ordering illegal electronic surveillance by the National Security Agency aptly symbolize the attitude of both big-business parties to the defense of democratic rights. Ten of the panel’s 18 members absented themselves during testimony and debate over the censure resolution submitted by Wisconsin Democrat Russell Feingold, including five of the eight Democrats.

      The five included liberals like Edward Kennedy, Charles Schumer and Richard Durbin, the deputy party leader in the Senate, as well as Diane Feinstein of California and Joseph Biden, a prospective candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination. Another Democrat, Herbert Kohl of Wisconsin, apparently attended only out of courtesy to his state colleague. He said nothing and did not ask a single question of the witnesses who appeared to argue for or against the censure motion.

      Only one committee Democrat, Patrick Leahy of Vermont, indicated any support for Feingold’s resolution, saying, “We know the president broke the law. Now we need to know why.”

      This brings the total number of avowed supporters of the resolution to four, with Leahy joining Feingold, Tom Harkin of Iowa and Barbara Boxer of California. None of these four has suggested that the NSA spying program, which violates the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, should be shut down, urging instead that it be retroactively legalized and brought under the jurisdiction of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the secretive judicial body established by the 1978 law to review executive branch requests for such electronic spying. …”

      So there’s precedent for retroactively legalizing things and I suspect that’s what they’re aiming for with arming the rebels in Syria and having the CIA funnel weapons through Turkey, which is EXACTLY what Stevens was suspected of doing out of Benghazi, when Barry PRETENDED to the world that he wasn’t (ILLEGALLY) doing it. Once they have some rubber stamp from the RINOs in Congress, then it will probably be “leaked” that’s what Stevens was doing but, what’s the big deal? They need to find a way to extricate Barry from this Benghazi disaster, and Hillary, too.

    • Good find, alfy. You’d almost think you were reading current events! Can’t believe that I agree with Russ Feingold on ANYTHING:

      “When interviewer Chris Wallace pointed to the fact that congressional leaders in both the House and Senate, Democratic and Republican, had been briefed on the secret surveillance program, Feingold responded, “If you break the law and you go tell people you’re breaking the law, that doesn’t make it OK. If you’re breaking the law, you’re breaking the law. In this case, the president does not have a legal leg to stand on.””

  14. Ammo made in the USA, Keep in mind, “Peace through pork!”

  15. Time to Impeach Obama

    • Ironic, isn’t it? Feingold thought they should impeach GWB for just this one thing–the NSA spying. Now, however, just look at all the UNCONSTITUTIONAL stuff that Barry has done, besides spying on everyone.

  16. RMinNC | June 15, 2013 at 5:08 pm |
    PAPOOSE…and IB

    Yes you are correct…I did bring this to light here on CW about two weeks ago…385 big heavy duty front end loaders to be shipped to only military post in the us is HIGHLY UNUSUAL.Their normal orders from the military for this piece of heavy equipment was 28.

    I served three times in Vietnam and that is exactly how they scooped up the bodies of dead Viet Cong soldiers after a big battle had been fought…they would then put the bodies in a long narrow trench then thrown in some lime and cover it up……

    When I read this story for the first time…that is exactly what came to my mind…GOD I hope this is not in the minds of the criminals running our government…

    • Thanks ZenW. , What a great obituary… and what a contrast to his brother. That living in CT. and him being such a great forgerer,well, guess he didn’t have anything to do with O.’s fraudulent handiwork.?????

    • I never heard of him. Interesting.

  17. dar, have you been listening to lame cheriba? That’s the only place I’ve seen that.

  18. harrison • 14 minutes ago
    Thank God, Sarah is back! Finally some honest appraisals on the Obama Coup, the Obama Owned and Blackmailed Media, and the Fast Declining State of Our Nation!

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