One More Time: Who IS This Man? (Open Thread)

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Nearly three years have passed since this post was written, asking WHO the president known as Obama truly is.  We’re still waiting for an answer to that question:

We the People have been asking this question, “Who is this man?”  Today we are no closer to the answer than before.  In fact, we become more confused by the day.

Is his name Barack Hussein Obama II, as contended in two books arguably written by him and mentioned on a specious COLB presented to a gullible lamestream media on partisan blogs and campaign websites?  Or is his name Barack Obama Jr., as he was called in the infamous FactCheck blog defense of his British/Kenyan citizenship? Or is his name Barry Obama, as (it is claimed) he was known in school in Hawaii?   Or is his name Barry Soetoro, as school registration forms from Indonesia seem to indicate?  Or is his name Soebarkah, as his mother’s passport records seem to indicate?  (A one word name, in keeping with Indonesian tradition, because he was adopted by his stepfather.) Or is his name Barry Dunham, Steve Dunham, or the latest:  Barrack Houssein Obama II, as indicated on records from a U.S. MILITARY Court-Martial of patriotic American, LTC Lakin, who himself put his life and freedom on the line in a quest to learn the answer to this question:   WHO IS THIS MAN?

Now comes word from Police Chief Mark Kessler that Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse (CCP) has “indisputable” evidence that Obama is not who he pretends to be:

This Barry…he’s not an American, I can tell you that right now. The information that I was given, he’s not an American. He’s not even Kenyan and I’m tellin’ you that when you find out what he is, your blood is gonna boil. The American people are gonna go absolutely crazy if Congress doesn’t do something about this cause he’s not Kenyan and he’s not American.There’s no record of him prior to the age of five anywhere in this country. Nowhere. The people that…that they say are his parents, guess what? They’re not his real parents. They’re not. I’ve seen the evidence. … 

Obama has many aliases; but the CCP learned that using aliases is not illegal, although Obama did not reveal his alternate names to the state of Illinois when he applied for a law license. Our original post mentions all aliases of which we’ve become aware over the years.

We do know who Obama claims as his parents:  Barack Hussein Obama and Stanley Ann Dunham.  If they’re not his real parents, then who are his real parents?

If there’s no record of Obama in this country before he was age five, then how can that be explained?  We’re open to learning the truth.  We’re waiting for the truth.  Congress needs to finally get off its collective butt and find the truth for which We the People have been waiting, lo, these many years.

Chief Kessler implied that the CCP will soon wrap up its investigation and then turn all the evidence over to Congress, in the hope that Congress will be inspired to investigate this situation for themselves.

Congress, unlike the CCP, will have the power to subpoena records and call witnesses under oath.  They will also have the power to prise from the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) those disappeared port of entry records for the week beginning August 1, 1961–the week of Obama’s alleged birth.

Even if, as Lt. Mike Zullo of the CCP stated, the folks at NARA have lawyered up, they can still be called as witnesses.  Let them, like Lois Lerner, publicly take the Fifth.  Congress can dispatch inspectors to examine all of the actual records at NARA.  Surely somebody at NARA will talk. (We really do need to add NARA to the list of alphabet agencies that have been corrupted by this administration.)

Congress also should be able to prise from Hawaii the TRUTH about Obama’s supposed long-form birth certificate.  They can find out once and for all WHEN that document was originally created.  If any certified document truly exists in 3-D form, they will be able to determine, once and for all, whether it exactly matches the allegedly forged and computer-generated pdf that was posted on the White House blog and presented as Obama’s long-form birth certificate.  If there’s no exact match, then Congress can find out why not.

We the People deserve to know the TRUTH about the man in the White House.

Who is this man?  

When we finally learn the truth, will “what” he is make our “blood boil,” as Kessler claims?  If Obama’s not American and not Kenyan, then what is he?

Will We the People EVER learn the truth?


h/t Gordo

252 responses to “One More Time: Who IS This Man? (Open Thread)

  1. New open thread. I’m going to give you a bunch of links concerning the NSA stuff. You’ll be happy to learn that Al Franken is not worried about Barry’s spying, but Muslim Keith Ellison doesn’t agree:

    Franken ‘Very Well Aware Of’ NSA Tracking Phone Records

    US Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., says he’s not surprised by revelations that federal security agencies collect phone and computer data on American citizens.

    The National Security Agency secretly gathered personal data on Americans since 2007, including their internet use and cell phone service. It’s something Franken says he “was very well aware of.”

    “I can assure you, this is not about spying on the American people,” Franken said.

    Franken, who sits on the Senate Judiciary Committee, says he got secret security briefings on the program and he says it prevented unspecified terrorist acts. [Can you believe that? Franken getting secret briefings is of a piece with having the likes of Snowden with access to top secret documents!]

    Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison told ABC News he has deep concerns and that very few members of Congress knew the extent of the secret surveillance.

    “We need to peel it back and we need to make sure congress is considering the constitution when we write these laws,” Ellison said. …”

    Go figure. The Muslim is worried about the Constitution. Of course, there may be an ulterior motive there.

  2. You’ll love this one! Snowden’s beloved is a pole dancer!

    Edward Snowden’s Girlfriend Has a Pole Dancing Blog – With Dance Video”

    Go there to read her blog post about the upheaval in her life and if you care to see her dance moves. You cannot make this stuff up. Just your ordinary patriot.

    • Snowden is beginning to sound like a CIA creation out of thin air, with pole dancers, next we’ll hear Snowden blew himself up in his Iceland apartment, but not before posting wild videos of himself lapdancing with one of the Bush twins. Perhaps Snowden is a dopplegander, with no high educational value, he must be a PATSY of some sort. What’s the motive?

      • He sounds like Barry, doesn’t he? I haven’t a clue what’s the motivation, but his name sounds like something made up by MI-6. Edward Snowden? Sounds like a lord of something. Flies?

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      Oh , right.. The comedian, Al (let’s find planted ballots in a pick up truck) Franken and the Muslim Keith Ellison. Well, that changes everything. 🙄

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      A certain someone is going to get a lot of mileage out of this. 😉

    That dunce Clapper actually has the gall to JOKE about the NSA spying. In that sense, he has become a TRUE and loyal OBOT. Mimicking his messiah all the way:

    Banqueters and the Spying News Bombshell

    No one planned it that way, but the twin blockbuster stories exposing national security agencies’ collection of domestic telephone logs and foreigners’ Web traffic made for some surreal juxtapositions on Friday at the annual banquet of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance.

    With the current and past directors of national intelligence at the Omni Shoreham to honor former CIA and National Security Agency chief Michael Hayden, the result in speeches and interviews with intel professionals was a gumbo of outrage, worry and humor.

    Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told the black-tie crowd of more than 700 he would “address the elephant in the room” and proceeded, to applause, to denounce “the unauthorized leaks as reprehensible and egregious.” Clapper characterized the program as completely legal, debated and reauthorized by Congress under strict oversight and by court order “to make our nation safe and secure.” [EXCEPT THE CONGRESS CANNOT MAKE A LAW INVALIDATING THE CONSTITUTION’S FOURTH AMENDMENT. GEE, EVEN DR. C AGREES. I won’t link to him, but you know where he is if you care to read his stuff.]

    He then cracked a few jokes. “Some of you expressed surprise that I showed up—so many emails to read!” Clapper said. Greeting fellow banqueter John Pistole, the administrator of the Transportation Security Administration who recently reversed a planned policy to permit air travelers to carry certain knives on planes, Clapper said, “John, can I borrow your pocket knife?” …”

    Don’t quit your day job, Jim. btw, does Clapper make MORE than Snowden did? I’m just curious. NOPE! About the same, though: $199, 700 according to this site. That’s a shame, isn’t it? I’m sure he’s well compensated in other ways, or will be afterwards.

      Perhaps all are aware of this case, but it has been going on for a long time. I haven’t tried to find the original case, but this goes back a few years. Much about this case went unnoticed because it fell into National Security instead of the public domain where it started out. I had heard about this case on some obscure radio station. A professor was discussing the case. Maybe some of Clapper’s comments have to do with this case.

      • And of course this is likely what will be happening just like this in Bush era….2005
        Basically, Obama is going to see to it that we’re monitored for ever more for National Security purposes of course and the “forever till the end of time” terrorism fears.

        • From your link Alfy –

          WASHINGTON, Dec. 15 – Months after the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush secretly authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans and others inside the United States to search for evidence of terrorist activity without the court-approved warrants ordinarily required for domestic spying, according to government officials.

          Under a presidential order signed in 2002, the intelligence agency has monitored the international telephone calls and international e-mail messages of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people inside the United States without warrants over the past three years in an effort to track possible “dirty numbers” linked to Al Qaeda, the officials said. The agency, they said, still seeks warrants to monitor entirely domestic communications.

          From above –
          “international telephone calls and international e-mail messages”

          Huge difference as too what this administration is doing. Bush’s intention was too monitor “terrorists” . Obama is monitoring US WTP!!

          Amazing that the under ware bomber amazingly slipped through the cracks of the NSA, also the Boston Bomber’s also Nidal Malik Hasan, the Ft Hood shooter.

          Just too update on Nidal Malik Hasan

          Fort Hood Suspect Says Rampage Was to Defend Afghan Taliban Leaders

          Published: June 4, 2013

          KILLEEN, Tex. — Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army psychiatrist accused of killing 13 people, told a judge on Tuesday that he believed he was defending the lives of the Taliban leadership in Afghanistan from American military personnel when he went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood here in November 2009.

          Nidal Malik Hasan just happened too slip through, uh ha. And who’s 08′ Campaign did Hasan work for? ummm, as a hint who do not know the first name name starts with an B and the last with a O.

          • While the Bush years not entirely the same….Bush still did it secretly and domestically…now O has just made it easier. Just like the Foolish cheering Bostonians gleeful to see the military intruding all over the placer for TWO little hoodlums…one a CITIZEN at least ….the perfect example of how quickly and easily Obama can make twisted fools of us the population, even pat a patriotic population. All in the name of National Security, as you have also noted, just exactly how often does national security measures like these stop bag guys….just like police arrive usually after a crime has been committed then they proceed to track down bady guys. Well…SECRECY of NAtional Security has a remedy for that….get you or anyone else before you are likely to committ a crime. Guess brain scans in early childhood development will be next to determine psychotics and criminals and just have them exterminated early or better yet put them in camps and laboratories for experimental testing.

        • While at the same time he declares the war on terror over.

      • One of the things hidden in bills was allowing companies to escape lawsuits by customers when they “cooperated” and just handed over private information to the government. That was their backdoor into your life. They rationalize that the information belongs to the company, not to you. You don’t “need” to use their “services”, you see, even though it’s next to impossible to live and function today without using the Internet. So once they decided that your personal information doesn’t belong to you or that you WILLINGLY gave it up when you “signed” or “accepted” their terms of service, then it was all well and good for them to just hand it all over to the spies, if they so “chose” (as if the companies weren’t leaned on and threatened if they refused to “cooperate”). It’s all good for the progressives. This is being drummed up so that we pass “cybersecurity” laws that WILL further restrict our lives and freedom because you just KNOW that buried in the thousands of pages will be more poison pill “surprises”. The companies cannot be SUED for infringing on your privacy or (probably) for any ill that comes from it, such as your identity is stolen by the likes of Snowden and published on the Web and then identity thieves wreak their havoc. We need to defeat ALL of these people in Congress who PRETEND to represent us. ALL OF THEM are complicit in these end runs around the Constitution, beginning with keeping silent on Obama’s ineligibility. None of this is constitutional. That’s why they will do their utmost to KEEP these laws from being challenged in courts. NOTE that the ACLU, in their first lawsuit, was told that since they can’t PROVE that they were damaged by the excesses of the FISA courts (sort of by definition, duh–it’s SECRET), they had no “standing” to sue. We’ve heard THAT before, haven’t we? “No standing” is their go-to reason to simply keep from the SCOTUS anything they KNOW is unconstitutional (like Barry’s alleged presidency). Now, ACLU sees an opening because this news proves that they HAVE been damaged–they use Verizon. But will it matter? Good luck, ACLU. You should have stood with us from the beginning. No Obama eligibility, no Obama presidency. Thus, no “overreach” by the IRS, FISA, NSA, DOJ, NARA, SSA, SS, etc.

      • Thanks for finding that, alfy. Actually, that’s the case where they said ACLU had no “standing”. So Clapper’s the dunce who argued no standing in that case. Don’t you love this line?

        “Director of National Intelligence James Clapper argues that the groups do not have standing because their injuries are not imminent, they do not have ongoing or present injuries, and self-inflicted harms are not recognizable injuries.”

        SELF-INFLICTED? How is their harm self-inflicted? Because they dared to talk on the phone to someone “reasonably” assumed to be overseas? I do notice that the analysis of the case points out that the SCOTUS STILL will not be deciding whether the FISA law is CONSTITUTIONAL or instead violates the 4th Amendment (which it OBVIOUSLY does). So, like deciding who’s an NBC, the SCOTUS will avoid this subject, too?

    • It wasn’t the NSA that requested the court order, it was the FBI. Who doe’s the FBI follow orders from – Holder.

      Verizon forced to hand over telephone data – full court ruling

      Wednesday 5 June 2013 19.04 EDT

      The US government is collecting the phone records of millions of US customers of Verizon under a top secret court order. Read the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court order

      • They work in tandem now, like a tag team. That’s supposedly why 9/11 happened. Back then, they weren’t “sharing” information, if we’re stupid enough to buy that explanation. We would know that Holder’s hands are all over this. Obama’s, too. Did you know that our troops have been ORDERED not to read any of this because it’s a violation of something or other? They’re not to know what their CiC is up to. That might destroy morale. Ya think?

      • I seem to remember a story that talked about a law to FORCE internet and phone companies to save and store all this data, in case the government wanted to seize it. This, of course, would cost the companies money–to buy storage, etc. And then, of course, they’d pass that cost on to us so that we, in essence, are forced to PAY FOR the government’s unconstitutional intrusion into our lives! Seems to me that IF the companies would simply NOT store the metadata, then there would be nothing to seize, legally or illegally. So why do they save this stuff?


          “The United States does not have any Internet Service Provider (ISP) data retention laws similar to the European Data Retention Directive.[23] All attempts have failed:

          In 1999 two models of mandatory data retention were suggested for the US: What IP address was assigned to a customer at a specific time. In the second model, “which is closer to what Europe adopted”, telephone numbers dialed, contents of Web pages visited, and recipients of e-mail messages must be retained by the ISP for an unspecified amount of time.[24][25][26]

          The Internet Stopping Adults Facilitating the Exploitation of Today’s Youth (SAFETY) Act of 2009 also known as H.R. 1076 and S.436 would require providers of “electronic communication or remote computing services” to “retain for a period of at least two years all records or other information pertaining to the identity of a user of a temporarily assigned network address the service assigns to that user.”[27] This bill never became a law.[28]”

          I’ll bet you anything that this whole “scandal” is a precursor to help ram through the “cyberSECURITY” laws and the Internet control laws and this sort of “Data RETENTION Directive” laws HERE in the USA.

          “Law enforcement in North Carolina would like for Congress to mandate that cell phone companies be required to keep your text messages on file for 2 years so that they can use them as evidence to help solve cases …”

          Again, they use the “children” as the purported excuse:

          “How Internet Companies Would Be Forced to Spy on You Under H.R. 1981

          Online commentators are pointing to the Internet backlash against H.R. 1981 as the new anti-SOPA movement. While this bill is strikingly different from the Stop Online Piracy Act, it does have one thing in common: it’s a poorly-considered legislative attempt to regulate the Internet in a way experts in the field know will have serious civil liberties consequences. This bill specifically targets companies that provide commercial Internet access – like your ISP – and would force them to collect and maintain data on all of their customers, even if those customers have never been suspected of committing a crime.

          Under H.R. 1981, which has the misleading title of Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011, Congress would force commercial Internet access providers to keep for one year a “log of the temporarily assigned network addresses the provider assigns to a subscriber to or customer of such service that enables the identification of the corresponding customer or subscriber information under subsection (c)(2) of this section.” Let’s break that down into simple terms. …”

          GOP pushing for ISPs to record user data

          New Republican majority plans to revive efforts to force Internet service providers to keep track of user activity, a proposal that could sweep in Web firms as well.

          The House Republicans’ first major technology initiative is about to be unveiled: a push to force Internet companies to keep track of what their users are doing.

          A House panel chaired by Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin is scheduled to hold a hearing tomorrow morning to discuss forcing Internet providers, and perhaps Web companies as well, to store records of their users’ activities for later review by police.

          One focus will be on reviving a dormant proposal for data retention that would require companies to store Internet Protocol (IP) addresses for two years, CNET has learned.

          Tomorrow’s data retention hearing is juxtaposed against the recent trend to protect Internet users’ privacy by storing less data. Last month, the Federal Trade Commission called for “limited retention” of user data on privacy grounds, and in the last 24 hours, both Mozilla and Google have announced do-not-track technology. …”

          NOTE that this is old news and I don’t know WHAT, if anything, passed, BUT it’s a sign of what they WANT TO DO.

          • I believe this is the man Gordo posted about on the previous thread

            Meet Richard Mack, Republican challenger to SOPA’s author

            Richard Mack, a retired sheriff and constitutional conservative, is hoping to use Rep. Lamar Smith’s authorship of SOPA and an Internet surveillance bill to pry him out of office.

            by Declan McCullagh
            February 9, 2012 4:00 AM PST

            Rep. Lamar Smith could pay a steep political price for authoring two bills, the Stop Online Piracy Act and an online surveillance measure, that have become loathed by millions of Internet users.

            He’s facing an unexpected primary challenge from an ex-lawman who believes Smith has little regard for the U.S. Constitution–and who plans to use those bills as a lever to pry his opponent out of a congressional seat he’s occupied since 1987.

            Richard Mack, an Arizona sheriff who retired to Fredericksburg, Texas, is a self-described “constitutional conservative” with a long history of supporting causes close to the hearts of Republican primary voters, including states’ rights, individual rights, and Second Amendment rights.

            Because Smith heads the House committee charged with writing copyright law, he’s become Hollywood’s favorite congressional Republican. The TV, movie, and music industries are the top donors to Smith’s 2012 reelection committee, according to data complied by the Center for Responsive Politics, and Smith endorsed a 2002 proposal allowing Hollywood to hack into the PCs of Americans suspected of illicit file sharing.
            How about Smith’s H.R. 1981, which would require Internet service providers to keep track of their customers, in case police want to review those logs in the future? It’s backed by President Obama’s Justice Department.
            Mack: I’m a constitutional conservative. I guarantee you I have some libertarian views and this is definitely one of them. In a day and age when the American people, especially Texans, are asking for less government in our lives, here comes Lamar Smith marching in with House Bill 1981 that completely wants to take over the Internet and have companies monitoring customers for the federal government.

            I want to ask Lamar Smith, “Where would you get such an idea?” Remember this: Anti-incumbent sentiment has never been higher. The approval rating for Congress has never been lower. Lamar Smith is showing us why.


        • wonder how much info is stored in a “cloud”????? Anyone ever read all the stuff that comes with phone bills(i.e.) that requires that you must request that your information cannot be used? Just wondering if that covers any of this????

          • Not likely. They all contain that disclaimer that when the gummint comes calling, they will hand over everything.

      • Yep , notice how many Attorney generals agreed with the no standing ruling.

  4. Of his early childhood, Obama recalled, “That my father looked nothing like the people around me—that he was black as pitch, my mother white as milk—barely registered in my mind.” He described his struggles as a young adult to reconcile social perceptions of his multiracial heritage.

    About now…. Sister..”Maya Soetoro-Ng” needs to COME CLEAN!
    & today Sasha ??? O ??? is 12 years old. Happy Birthday 2 U !

    • Who refers to age 10 as “early childhood?” That’s when he allegedly first met this “black as pitch” father. His sister Lia WOULD come clean, if she could. (Could be why Maya doesn’t.) TRIAD (as referred to by Snowden). Scary. Sasha is really 12 already? Well, happy birthday to her. She seems like a sweet kid.

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  6. …… Vanishing Privacy ….. Robert Ford @ AT

    But we can no longer say as did William Pitt, the first Earl of Chatham in 1763
    “The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the crown. It may be frail – its roof may shake – the wind may blow through it – the storm may enter – the rain may enter – but the King of England cannot enter.”
    Those who have done nothing wrong still need a bathroom door but today it’s not enough. The king can still enter through our iphones, our xbox, our TV and our Wifi, and worse yet, we won’t even know that he’s there.

  7. I’m not so sure how much stock we should put in what Kessler said. The CCP guy calling into his show made me think. I wondered why, if he’s ex-law enforcement, he’d be in the private session. People are saying on Free Republic that Kessler broke the confidentiality agreement, by posting on his Facebook page that Barry’s possibly Saudi, that the Kenyans and the Russians are involved, that Bill Ayers is involved, that it’s no accident he was “elected”. Now that’s exactly like that postman’s story, isn’t it? The thing is, the commenters on FR say this was tipped about Kessler by the Fogblowers and that Kessler has since removed that post from his Facebook page. So was it posted by Kessler or by the obots? Anybody who thinks they can’t hack anything they want isn’t paying attention. I don’t know this Kessler guy but he sounds not like somebody Zullo would necessarily trust. Two different personality types. I thought Zullo didn’t know him until that conference; maybe Zullo’s learning, but it’s not promising if Kessler is the loose cannon they allege. I know nothing about the guy so … I’m just reporting. We may not be able to depend upon what he said: That Barry’s not American and not Kenyan, either. (Although that’s perfectly in line with our suspicions for years. Also that his “parents” aren’t his parents, because he’s adopted.) Now look at this, which again is from the Fogblowers, apparently, so who knows if it’s legit?

    Was that REALLY filed in a court of law? Who is this person who wrote this? It sounds more like a theory than a brief; but since I’m not a lawyer, I haven’t a clue what rules of evidence apply to such briefs.

    • Richard’s comment at ORYR:

      “Chief Mark Kessler wrote on his Facebook page about an hour ago that he’s leaving the “birther deal.” Hopefully he clarifies this pretty soon.”

      • Curious, huh? I wonder if his page is hacked or if it’s real. Maybe the CCP asked him to lay off. It sounded as if he was being slammed in the blogosphere by obots who were propagating that he was calling for an armed march on DC. He says that wasn’t so. That’s what the CCP person called in to tell him–not to say that Sheriff Joe, as law enforcement, was supporting him in that. He said it was a misunderstanding. I wonder if somebody paid him a visit? It would be likely. I’m getting him mixed up with that other guy–Mack. I don’t know this Kessler at all. His show has a lot of cussing, that’s for sure. One of the replies to that comment says that Mack doesn’t respect the 2nd Amendment. I wonder if it was Mack who called on the video? I didn’t catch the name, only that it was someone speaking for the CCP.

        • 6:16 pm —

          “I wonder if it was Mack who called on the video? I didn’t catch the name, only that it was someone speaking for the CCP.”
          Don Jeffrey of the “Cold Case Posse” called in to Kessler’s show.

          With Carl Gallups:

          June 4, 2013

          “BREAKING! Investigator Don Jeffrey – CCP – Obama SSN – Clearing The Air!”

          “Investigator Don Jeffrey of the Cold Case Posse. He is the Obama Fraud Social Security Number investigator for this case. Investigator Jeffrey answers questions about the complex issue of the Obama SSN.”

    • I was really taken aback in his manner. i don’t want to be in his crowd, that’s for sure. Marching to DC armed? these days. yea. How come he’s not up on the new DHS super-militia and all their heavy vehicles and equipment, etc. that we see popping up everywhere? What planet is he on?

      yea the new secret police are going to back down to all these local cops.when they march into DC. okay.

      • I was taken aback, too. A little more foul-mouthed than we’re accustomed to, that’s fo shizzle my nizzle. 🙂

        • The cursing was a bit much but I get it.t was more his demeanor.
          — bragging about going through the airport with Mossad T shirt?
          A week ago he knew nothing about the birther issue and this week he’s ready to roll. dangerous. and distracting.

          p.s. Barack: Benghazi

          • It took four of five videos to hear him say one little tidbit of information if you can call it that. I was actually put off by the whole rant and skipped all the way thru. Unneccesary birther baiting if you ask me…course no one asked me, but hey….

          • Yup. I didn’t catch the Mossad thing, but I did wonder about his militancy. I’m getting him mixed up with that other guy Gordo linked to (I think). Is this guy STILL a police chief and the other guy (Mack?) is an ex-officer?

          • Richard Mack:

            “Richard Ivan Mack is the former sheriff of Graham County, Arizona, and a two-time candidate for United States Congress. He is frequently referred to simply as “Sheriff Mack.””

            May 29, 2013

            “Latest: Sheriff Joe Obama ID Fraud Investigation Update; Presidential Document Fraud”

            “As first reported here and here: Sheriff Joe’s lead Obama identity document fraud investigator Mike Zullo will be speaking at Sheriff Mack’s Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association Conference scheduled for this weekend in Missouri. …”


          • June 4, 2013

            “STUNNER! Sheriff Richard Mack – NOW I AM A 100% BELIEVER!”

            “”I used to scoff the birther issue – now I am a believer!”

            “Congress must investigate this matter – it is their duty.”

            To the IRS “You will not come in my county without my permission!”

            “Plausible deniability is going to be hard for Obama to argue in this case!”

            “My sincere belief is that (Obama) went to these great lengths because he was not born in the United States””


        • Hey gals, my comments go into moderation…is that something new that happens each time we comment now? I don’t recall this ever happening before today. I notice when I clear my search history I have to reenter my moniker and e-address again.

          • Sorry, Dar. I was offline for a while and no other moderators available at the moment. I don’t know why your comments went to spam moderation, but WordPress lost one of my comments today, and I got some message about “server maintenance” once, and somebody else had a problem with comments. I guess they’re screwing up the system again. Unless Barry’s got the NSA installing a hotline from WordPress to the bowels of the WH. 😉

          • Wait! I think it’s because you may have used a different email address. Do you notice that your avatar is different, too? WordPress goes by email address to identify you, and for some reason, it thought you were new (with the email address you used today).

          • Oh nuts. That isn’t even my e-mail. I hate Yahoo. I used to have a yahoo. Wow, I must be losing it. LOL. I will change it back. Thanks Miri for telling me that or I would not have noticed.

            • Doesn’t really matter except that it changes your avatar and throws you temporarily into moderation. Do notice, though, that the email address doesn’t even have to be real! Who knew?

          • Not a problem Miri,,,hey we learned something in the process!

    • Now we know why he has such a bad case of dry-mouth.
      ~ fast talking opportunist with a Hallmark sob story that makes him special.

      He has an agenda. “flip flop”, the new word for contradicting your own stated principals depending on whether your begging for a donation or a vote.

      gang of eight? who do they think they are giving up our Country to foreigners and taking our wages to support their new advocacy organizations that will surely pop up everywhere. 8 people to sit around and mull over an enormous decision for 300,000,000 Americans. its not even debatable.

      We are supposed to believe they are talking about Mexicans. LIARS

      illegal immigrants are on the Table. Its Insane. They want to dilute the natural born American population which is designed to overthrow us. And “us” is our Government. Post America by a Gang of Eight.

      • Ever wonder why it’s been all this time since O. arrived at the white house and nothing has been done about immigration? What if that’s the way he’s planned it all along and just as he’s leaving the whitehouse ,he and his ilk will have opened the flood gates for everybody, from everywhere….not just Mexico, but that’s where everybody will come in from everywhere else. Talk about dilution! Course if they give us any problems, by that time we’ll probably have drones stationed everywhere.

        • Exactly, undocumented worker and other euphemisms for illegal alien is supposed make you think “Mexican” neighbors dropping by to pick lettuce.

        • i just read somewhere lately, alfy, that they are putting additional languages on the southern border’s signs in addition to “Spanish’.
          I think they even keep large of vats of water for the thirsty travelers in need of a little respite.

          Janet Napolitano and John McCain sure did go to a lot of trouble to keep America safe in Arizona, didn’t they? I even heard the Federal government was harassing and suing that State for enforcing federal laws. Did you? Who do they think they are kidding?


    This is sort of interesting. Gleaned from the comments at FR, too. Could Maathai be mama? I never heard of her, but she has a Kansas connection and also is from Kenya and came over on the airlift.

    • very interesting, Miri. Its really great to know that the USA had all this going on for foreigners back in the late 50s and 60s whilst American children had to forgo college and higher education because their parents were “poor”.
      ETC! They did a great job in overwhelming the system… and now we can look forward to feeding and educating the Arabs that fall under the Mexican banner of “illegal immigrants”.
      ~ ~
      If they wanted to protect us from “Terrorism” which only exists when it comes to shredding our Bill of Rights, they would close all the borders and tighten up entry into this Country on all fronts until the NSA and DHS developed a global system to collect data from scheming foreigners. Instead, they get a written invitation to invade and infiltrate.

      Government Intimidation. wonder how many people decided to clam up in the last couple of weeks from fear of being monitored due to the all the “leaks”.

      p.s. Barack: Benghazi was a plan.

      • Yes, I see why the Federal Government must track its law abiding citizens and monitor their purchases and hobbies and interests. Yes, I agree its a good thing and I feel so safe now knowing that these massive data collecting schemes will keep our footprints and medical information on file to prevent Acts of Terror.

        How long before the US Dollar is obsolete so they can have direct access to our checking accounts because we have to swipe our co-pays, fees and deductibles? No Checks or Cash Accepted.

        E-Z Pass?

        • most everyone’s children , with their smart phones ,face book, are now already in a mining database .When they use their phones in stores to check prices,buy items,ect….even a retina scan is probably already being employed. I hate those t.v. camera things at the checkout like at Home Depot, which is supposed to be for What exactly?

        • Read what this Obama critic and his young daughter recently went through and you will realize how serious it is for us to have a Chicago thug in the WH. You WILL be harassed and intimidated by the powers of this executive branch (IRS, DOJ, SS (well named), etc.) IF you dare to Alinsky the Alinsky in Chief who, I am sure, will first learn about this when he reads it on the Web. Note that this went on before the Boston attack. The writer questions their use of taxpayer resources. And today, although they listen to everything and track everything, we’re supposed to believe that they can’t FIND Snowden. Guess he’s off the grid, huh?

          • Miri, regarding this Snowden guy. I saw on the last thread you found his mother? but there was no mention of a son named Edward. Snowden was in Hi for awhile, why? Just doing a humm here. I know there is a Navy base there in HI that doe’s a lot of NSA intelligence. My humm is this –


            Last name: SNOWDEN
            First name: THOMAS EDWARD
            Home of Record (official): HONOLULU
            State (official): HI
            Date of Birth: Thursday, September 8, 1949
            Sex: Male
            Race: Caucasian
            Marital Status: Single

            — Military —

            Branch: Army
            Rank: SGT
            Serial Number: 575566552
            Component: Selective Service
            Posthumous promotion as indicated
            Pay grade: E4
            MOS (Military Occupational Specialty code): 11B20
            Major Organization: 196th LIB

            — Action —

            Start of Tour: Sunday, December 27, 1970
            Date of Casualty: Saturday, May 15, 1971
            Age at time of loss: 21
            Casualty type: (A1) Hostile, died
            Reason: Gun, small arms fire (Ground casualty)
            Country: South VietNam
            Province: Quang Nam
            The Wall: Panel 03W – Row 036
            SNOWDEN, THOMAS E
            SGT US ARMY
            DATE OF BIRTH: 09/08/1949
            DATE OF DEATH: 05/15/1971
            BURIED AT: SECTION K SITE 211
            2177 PUOWAINA DRIVE HONOLULU, HI 96813

            SNOWDEN, CIA, stolen identity? Ruse? Look that away, so long as it takes attention away from Benghazi?

            Just sayin’

            Also….I saw where you had posted something About B.o.x.e.r and the CA Lebanese shooter, Sandy Hook couldn’t get their gun control bill through so b.o.x.e.r is back at it with the L.A. shooter, trying too get a restart going on the gun bill.

            There is a connection with B.o.x.e.r and a crime boss from San Fransisco’s hey day. He started San Fransisco’s Fisherman’s Warf …his name – Lanza, coincidence? Lanza was a known mob member in S.F. and catered to the S.F. politicians. Remember the post/link on your second sandy hook thread the connection to the mob? This Lanza from S.F. connects to the guy on the S. H. thread, where do they connect at, where else Chicago! Although the S.F. mobster Lanza died years ago there are relatives of the Lanza mob still at it today.

            S.H. another ruse, L.A.?

            By any mean’s necessary?

            Just sayin’ again.

            See what I type goberment spies? JUST SAYIN’ !! NOT FACT, PURRRE SPECULATION!!

            NO NEED FOR AN AUDIT FOR A THIRD YEAR FOR PURE SPECULATION…….. Not that freedom of speech is a right anymore, we’ve rec’d that memo…Fck u very much. We will prevail, we will over come, WE WILL RESTORE!!

            • Hmmm. That is interesting, Leza. They said this Lord Snowden (as I’ve dubbed him) was in the army, training for special forces for 4 months. Your Tom Snowden served on that tour of duty for about 4 months. Wow. What a bunch of coinkidinks.

              Tom Snowden born Sept. died May. Edward Snowden enlisted May, discharged Sept.

              LANZA a SF mobster? Wow.

              I read a comment on another blog yesterday that said Edward Snowden sounds like a made up name on account of the e’s and the d’s and the n’s. Like a computer-generated alias.

              I did a cursory search yesterday for Wendy Snowden or Lonnie Snowden and Edward Snowden but found NO Edward connected to either of the parents. Just a Barrett E. Snowden (which could be a brother, father-in-law, uncle OR “Edward’s” full name.)

              He looks like Jay Carney Barker, doesn’t he?

              Tell me who claims to have joined the military to help “oppressed people” in Iraq and not to fight Muslim jihadists who attacked us?

              I’m not a big one on political thrillers. I can never figure them out. There are too many potential players here, from the ACLU, OWS, Code Pink, progressives who’ve hated GWB and the Patriot Act all along, UK and other global progs, not to mention all the Muslims who would LOVE to see us put down any weapons we might have to use against them (not that I believe the NSA expansion is AGAINST them, and not against US, as perpetrated under Obama).

              It’s interesting that the Snowdens lived in Maryland near one of the NSA “secret” bases and that’s where Ed went to work. Reminds me of ALL the illegal alien Obamas who live and “work” right around CIA areas in and about DC/VA, etc.

              That story I linked says that despite taking community college courses, Lord Snowden didn’t even complete high school, much less any community college degree. So you tell me upon WHAT BASIS he was hired by the CIA and the NSA and then for that high-paying job at Booz, all within a decade after NOT graduating from high school?

              Right now, we have college grads slinging burgers because they can’t find high-paying jopsss in the Obamanation. All they need to do, apparently, is apply to the CIA, NSA, or defense or security contractors. Let the good times roll!

              Why would a guy like him, an IT guy, have “diplomatic COVER” in Geneva when he was … what? All of 23? You don’t have “cover” unless you’re a SPY.

              So we’re supposed to believe this “former” spy is not NOW still an operative on a mission?

              So I hear a military expert on radio this morning talking about how there are multiple redundant systems in place on databases that would PREVENT some low-level guy from accessing top secret stuff without it being FLAGGED immediately. DUH AND DUH.

              Even ordinary business do (or should) have such systems in place. It’s how they CAUGHT the asshats who were cauterizing Barry’s passport files. Back then, those turds hadn’t a clue that the system would FLAG unauthorized access by hired contractors who worked for John O. Brennan. His bad. Not the genius he thinks he is, apparently.

              But anybody in IT (ESPECIALLY A “WHIZ KID” LIKE LORD SNOWDEN) would know that he can’t access and copy top secret stuff without being flagged and caught. Right? If I know it, he would.

              So did he somehow evade the system or did somebody just ALLOW IT to happen (hoping we’d be ignorant enough to believe it)? You be the judge.

              Something is rotten in this whole story. It’s “shiny things”. Look here. Don’t look over there. Talk about this. Not that. Not Benghazi. Not IRS spying. Not AP and Rosen spying. Not the Obama administration out of control, acting like the dictators they want to be.

              From the story I linked: “A former senior U.S. intelligence official told the Post it wasn’t clear why a contractor for Booz Allen like Snowden would have would have access to material as sensitive as a court order from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

              I don’t know why he would have had access to those … orders out in Hawaii,” the former official said.

              Snowden told The Guardian that he made his final preparations three weeks ago. At the NSA office where he worked, he copied the last set of documents he wanted to make public. He told his NSA supervisor that he would need a few weeks off work to receive treatment for epilepsy. He packed his belongings, and told his girlfriend that he had to go away for a few weeks.

              On May 20, he boarded a plane for Hong Kong.”

              And nobody asked why, even though they allegedly monitor everybody’s flights.

              “ORDERS OUT IN HAWAII.” Right. And we don’t know how the birth records SUPPOSEDLY OUT IN HAWAII got changed, hidden, created, modified. Just as we don’t know how the passport files got cauterized, changed, modified. Just as we don’t know how Selective Service records got created or modified. Just as we don’t know how port of entry records got disappeared. Just as we don’t know how SSA records got locked away or modified. Just as we don’t know if those INS records for Lolo or BHO Sr. are real or invented. Just as we don’t know how college records for BHO Sr. got disappeared. On and on and on. Funny how that happens and nobody knows how it could possibly happen.



                “… What surprises Astrochicks most, is Edward Snowden is a high school dropout. At the age of 29, how did he get such a high paying job and security clearance? Maybe he’s a computer whiz but that doesn’t explain why he was chosen for this program. While the NSA is spying on us, they completely ignore their employees. I guess they forgot about background checks.

                Edward Snowden’s military record is spotty as well. He spent four months in the Army reserves, from May to September 2004 as a special forces recruit to a 14-week training course, the Army said. “He did not complete any training or receive any awards,” an Army statement said. No other details were given, but Snowden told The Guardian he was discharged after breaking his legs in an accident. Hmm, not a stellar background. Again we ask, how did he get a job at the NSA and top security clearance.

                Snowden identifies himself as a spook. “I’ve been a spy almost all of my adult life,” he told the Washington Post. In his communications with a reporter, he used a code name — “Verax,” or truth-teller in Latin. He’s worried he’s being watched and puts a red hood over his head and laptop when he enters passwords, The Guardian reported. …”

                • His story reads like something out of a Bourne spy novel because IT IS. A story. Just like BARRY’S “story” is a “story”.

          • Kool connections Leza. Would that dead Snowden have a son the age of this one? Possible.

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

          • Sounds like a poorly written spy novel, doesn’t it? Only troble is if he needs treatment for epilepsy, he wouldn’t even be considered for military period; much less Special forces, unless they offer “special forces” like the “special Olympics”. He did say he broke both his legs, maybe he was confused and some Obama,Clapper thug told him they would break both his legs if he didn’t cooperate. They must have told him they would give him an identity on the order and type Obama has, you know, one with no records of graduation, no real military credentials and the appearance of being real smart and “special”.

            • A REALLY poorly written novel. It’s very fishy, imho. Maybe his epilepsy was sudden. Maybe when he (or they) broke his legs, it caused epilepsy, too. I wondered, when I read that he took leave for treatment of epilepsy, whether or not his employer (whom he worked for for a sum total of 3 months) already knew about that condition. Did he need a doctor’s note to get off work for an extended time after being just hired? Most new employees are on “probation” for several months after being hired. You’d think he’d need a doctor’s note.

              I looked at him and wondered why a puny guy like him would even be considered for Special Forces, but maybe they can’t discriminate. I do wonder if his parents are U.S. citizens or immigrants themselves. His mother’s name is actually Elizabeth, despite early stories that said Wendy. That’s her nickname. Odd nickname for a woman named Elizabeth. Both names sound very British, imho. (Named after the Queen?) So does Snowden. Father’s name “Lonnie”. Now what’s his real name? Most “Lonnies” aren’t named Lonnie on their birth certificates. Is it Alonzo?

              Isn’t it curious that in news articles they use nicknames? Most news reporters are schooled on getting the names right AND the ages. I haven’t seen ages given for either of these parents. That’s USUAL in news stories.

              When I heard where they lived, where they’d moved to, I wondered right off if that area of Maryland is associated with “spooks”. SURE ENOUGH. NSA. No story explains WHY they moved there, though.

              Mother works at a COURT, apparently, so a government job. Dad? Stepmother? I don’t remember.

              I read somewhere that Lord Snowden only lived in the neighborhood with his mother for a few years, as a teen. So where was he before (and after) that? He has a Lanza-like back story. One neighbor remembered seeing him through the windows of the house, working at his computer, all the time.


                “… Snowden, who has admitted to providing details of the top-secret programs, had worked on assignment at a Hawaii facility run by the National Security Agency for about four weeks before he said he was ill and requested leave without pay, according to the sources who spoke on condition of anonymity.

                When Snowden failed to return, that prompted a hunt for the contractor, first by his employer Booz Allen Hamilton and then by the U.S. government, they said.

                Snowden, 29, was known among colleagues as a very gifted “geek,” according to one of the sources, who added, “This guy’s really good with his fingers on the keyboard. He’s really good.”

                His job as a systems administrator would have afforded Snowden very wide access to servers containing classified information at the NSA, and possibly other U.S. intelligence agencies, the same source said, without giving specifics. …”

                Don’t you have complete confidence that THIS government, when they have all of your medical records under Obamacare, will keep it all private?

                • More: “U.S. officials do not yet know the extent to which Snowden was able to access intelligence databases, nor have they identified all the secret material he might have downloaded before leaving for Hong Kong, according to three sources.”

                  AND YET, just yesterday, people testified before Congress that he couldn’t access stuff because there are controls and audits and flags that prevent it! Lying liars and the person known as the president who employs them.

                  For his first week or two with Booz Allen, Snowden attended training sessions near Fort Meade, the Maryland military installation where NSA headquarters is located and where numerous agency contractors have offices.”

                  That’s right near where he lived previously, with his mother. So two weeks training, four weeks on assignment, and then he’s off to the races. Does it sound like he was on a MISSION from SOMEBODY? Booz ought to be suing somebody.

          • Regarding my post above – Leza | June 12, 2013 at 11:56 am

            Miri, regarding this Snowden guy. I saw on the last thread you found his mother? but there was no mention of a son named Edward. Snowden was in Hi for awhile, why? Just doing a humm here. I know there is a Navy base there in HI that doe’s a lot of NSA intelligence. My humm is this –
            I want to post this correction –

            I mistakenly said said – Navy base there in HI that doe’s a lot of NSA intelligence

            Actually It is a Army base in HI that doe’s a lot of NSA intelligence –

            Kunia Regional SIGINT Operations Center

            The Kunia Regional SIGINT Operations Center[1] (KRSOC, also pronounced “KR-Sock”), also known as the Kunia Tunnel[2] or the Regional Signals Intelligence Operations Center Kunia, is a United States National Security Agency facility.[3][4] It is a secured installation located on Kunia Road between Kunia Camp and Wheeler Army Airfield in central Oahu, Hawaii.


            Also notice Snowden lived in Kunia.

            I truly hope Snowden doe’s turn out to be a patriot, but I have my doubt’s.

            Thank you Miri ^^. How you pull so much together with your thought’s and facts truly amaze’s me. You have a god given talent, without a doubt your better than most professional writer’s.

            • TY for the compliment, Leza. I’m just trying to make sense of all this. I think it’s possible for Lord Snowden to be patriot, traitor, liar, and truth-teller all at the same time. And maybe even a spy for China or the UK or even their media.

              It’s GOOD for us to know for CERTAIN about these programs, and good that the Congress is going to take a look at them. What’s interesting is that for two days running the AP (victim of Holder) actually wrote hard-hitting SKEPTICAL stories about this NSA process. Here’s one. They debunk the spin that Obama is putting out. I find it hard to believe, but I hope they keep it up.

              It’s really not as if we didn’t suspect they did this, but now we know for certain. Hopefully, Congress will get answers or defund it. They’re not, however, getting answers from the likes of Mueller. Even my hubby, who’s non-political, was angry at his lying and stonewalling yesterday.

              He HAD TO be lying or else he’s totally incompetent OR totally out of the loop, which is possible. He claims not to know who’s leading the IRS investigation, even how many agents are on it or how many victim groups they’ve contacted (none). That means somebody else is running the show or else nothing’s being done. My guess: nothing’s being done, but Mueller can’t tell the truth and won’t lie under oath. Why not? I can’t say.

              He’s gone to the dark side and works for this crud, so why not lie, too, and count on being protected by the DOJ and/or pardoned (or promoted)? It’s crunch time now.

              It’s not enough for the Congress to be pissed about not getting answers. They need to “man up” (no insult to Congresswomen intended) AND DEMAND ANSWERS, OR IMPEACH OBAMA, AND/OR DEFUND THEIR AGENCIES UNTIL THEY GET ANSWERS.

              Think about what LIARS they all are. Obama and his peeps, EARLY ON, said this was done by a few “rogue agents” at the IRS and yet Mueller, who’s in charge of the FBI investigation, says he doesn’t KNOW who these rogue agents are. So if the head of the FBI doesn’t know, then HOW DID BARRY KNOW IT WAS ROGUE AGENTS in order to come out and LIE to the American people?

              Either Barry doesn’t know or he’s lying because he does know who led the IRS targeting (my guess-himself). Barry claims to know only what he reads in the paper, and yet he somehow knew it was just a few rogue agents. So, WHO TOLD HIM THAT?

              It would HAVE TO BE somebody who KNOWS. It wasn’t in the paper! Werfel and George and the others all testified that they didn’t know. So if they don’t know who did it, how is it that Barry knows? He didn’t say he’s waiting for the results of the investigation. Nope. They said it was a few “rogue agents”.

              Just like Benghazi was a protest about a video. HOW LONG WILL CONGRESS LET THIS OUTRAGE GO ON? They are co-equal with Barry. They OVERSEE him. Their job is to MAKE HIM RESPOND TO THE PEOPLE WHO EMPLOY HIM–US. They claim they’ll get to the bottom of this. WHEN?

              • “There is no evidence that the FBI has contacted a single tea party group in its criminal investigation of the Internal Revenue Service, according to the groups the IRS abused.

                We have not been contacted by any federal investigative agency and, to date, none of our clients have been contacted or interviewed by the FBI,” Jay Sekulow of the American Center for Law and Justice told The Daily Caller on Thursday. The ACLJ has filed suit against the IRS on behalf of 25 conservative groups, with additional groups being added in the next couple weeks, according to a spokesman.

                “I have been very surprised that I have not heard from anybody and frankly, none of my clients have. I talk to other tea party leaders on a regular basis,” said Cleta Mitchell, the lawyer largely credited with pushing the IRS abuses to the forefront.

                It’s been a month and I can’t see any evidence of an investigation of the IRS,” Mitchell told TheDC Thursday. She represents nine tea party groups targeted by the IRS.

                Tea Party Patriots — a group with thousands of local chapters — “has not been contacted by the FBI” either, according to Jameson Cunningham, the group’s spokesman.

                The revelation suggests that the FBI is in no hurry to get to the bottom of the scandal, despite the Obama administration’s promise to investigate the IRS’s multi-year abuse of conservative groups. …”

                Read more:

        • They can’t find those millions of illegals, either, despite that they track everything. Surely they have their Obamaphone numbers, the numbers of their EBT cards, and their email addresses. Speaking of background checks, the government is currently suing two companies for USING background checks when hiring. They claim it’s racist and discriminates against African-Americans, because they disproportionately have criminal records. Seriously. I’m NOT making this up. BMW and Dollar General. The government wants them to hire criminals.

        • Rosemary Woodhouse

          Okay guys, you know it’s practically obligatory.

          Revelation 13:
          The Mark of the Beast
          16And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17AND THAT NO MAN MIGHT BUY OR SELL, SAVE HE THAT HAD THE MARK, OR THE NAME OF THE BEAST, OR THE NUMBER O HIS NAME.. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred three score and six.

          Just sayin’

          • Yes Rosemary! I have many friends who are pre-trib in eschatology. They don’t concern themselves because they believe they will be raptured out of here before having to choose the Mark or not. I used to be staunch pre-trib. No I just Know that Jesus is coming back for me and that I do not know the day or the hour. We need to be Watchmen. Our Churches in this country need to wake up!


    Another snowball for the scandalanche:
    Whistleblower: Hillary’s Chief of Staff Quashed State Dept. Scandal Investigation

    A former senior investigator with the State Department’s criminal investigative unit has turned whistleblower and alleged to both the media and Congress that senior staff within State Department covered up investigations into appalling behavior committed by members of Hillary Clinton’s security staff and our ambassador to Belgium. One of those alleged to have interfered was Cheryl Mills, Hillary’s chief of staff.

    The case in which Clinton enforcer Mills allegedly intervened centered upon Brett McGurk, Obama’s nominee to be US ambassador to Iraq.

    McGurk’s expected nomination fell apart after a computer hack exposed his racy e-mails and an extramarital affair with Wall Street Journal reporter Gina Chon.

    According to the memo, the SID “never interviewed McGurk, allegedly because Cheryl Mills from the Secretary’s office interceded.”

    Without that interview, SID has been unable to close the case,” the memo concludes.

    Mills is a longtime associate of the Clintons, going back to 1992, and was also at the center of the first scandal to hit Hillary’s State Department: Benghazi. Gregory Hicks, the former Deputy Chief of Mission in Libya, testified before Congress that Mills instructed him not to cooperate with the Congressional investigation into the September 11 terror attacks.

    Mills isn’t the only high-ranking official being named. Patrick Kennedy, the Undersecretary of State for Management, is directly accused of killing an investigation into and our Ambassador to Belgium, Howard Gutman, who is accused of slipping away from his security detail to solicit sex from minor children. …”

    Sounds like DemoncRATS, doesn’t it?

  10. Contest winner from Powerline blog.

  11. I don’t know who he is but he is an imposter. Like Manchurian candidate, I believe he was created, preped for the purpose of fronting assault against our country from within. I’m afraid we’re in big trouble if we don’t get him OUT….Immediately!


    That’s a good post about the NSA situation. My biggest problem with this (besides the obvious) is that they COULD have left well enough alone. Why was it necessary to REMOVE these “business records” from the businesses and store them in a big honking database owned and controlled by the EXECUTIVE BRANCH and outside any of the normal checks and balances? And I don’t care if they managed to get some head-up-his-butt judge to sign off on this blanket warrant. I read that there have been thousands of APPROVALS for these warrants/subpoenas/whatever they are but only ELEVEN refusals over all the time since the FISA court has existed. ELEVEN. It’s a rubberstamping “star chamber” is what it is. They claim they need this to replace what was in effect before the new technology. It still could be improved. How about the Congress controlling the database, not the executive branch? That way, We the People can be assured of at least some checks and balances, but it would be far better for these business records to simply remain at the businesses. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. It won’t be the data being used for prosecutions that’s the problem. It will be the data being used to TARGET political enemies (e.g. to catch the rise of a “Tea Party” even before it solidifies) that will be the problem. And We the People won’t even KNOW that’s what they’re doing. It’s like if the Watergate Plumbers had got away with it. Then what? What would Nixon have done with the info they gathered? Think about how much they can learn by data mining all this information. What you buy. Who you call. Who calls you. What you photograph. WHO SENDS YOU MAIL. They even have snail mail covered, as we learned yesterday. Someone (sorry I don’t remember who) linked to a story about the ricin letters. They caught the alleged perp because the post office PHOTOGRAPHS the front and back of every piece of mail. Does that info go to the Utah Data Center, too? Or will it shortly? Along with all the concealed carry lists AND the new “biometric” information that the “immigration reform” bill is set up to create? Not to mention SCOTUS recently giving law enforcement permission to take DNA from people only ARRESTED, not even charged, prosecuted, or convicted. This is beyond Big Brother. As good as Orwell’s imagination was, he never thought of this one! btw, I read that sales of the book 1984 are soaring. Obama is making his heirs richer, just as he’s enriching gun manufacturers.

  13. More for the “KNOW IT ALLS” … credit cards receipts, & what you
    purchase like meds? Booze? Cigs? candy? soda? personal items etc.
    & stores info to use on Medical Info… at a later time. social networks, Facebook, MySpace, GPS tracks, cell phone geolocation, internet searches….+ + + … yikes!

    • We should always pay cash. I try to but not always convenient.

      Heard today from a friend… a friend of hers has her mother living with her. The mother wanted to visit her sister is Atlanta for a month and Homeland Security would only allow her to visit for 3 weeks. She was buying a round- trip ticket. If she would have bought one way they wouldn’t have said anything. So now we can’t visit family for as long as we want??? Wouldn’t buying a one-way ticket presume there were no real plans to return? This is crazy. Why would this matter is beyond me.

      • Huh? That’s new. You mean they wouldn’t let her buy a round trip ticket for longer than 3 weeks and supposedly DHS prevented her from doing so? That IS crazy. I’ve never heard of that one. What would be the point? This, from the people who didn’t notice Tamerlan Tsarnaev going to Dagestan.

    • Think I will totally mess up my records of purchases (along with the medical records portion of the data mining) with buying the morning after pill every couple of months (I am past childbearing). Or better yet run a card purchase swipe on my phone from my husband to “HoHooking”, which would really just be me. What other stuff could we ‘record’ to confuse things? Never shop at the same store or buy the same stuff? Or maybe buy all the same stuff. ….. Put together a buying club of maybe ten to twenty people. Each buy all of one or two items and then you all get together and switch up. All the data base knows is I bought a lot of ketsup and tampons. Ha. Ha.

  14. Wonder what their gripe is. never mind. their government is trying to take over their way of life an suppress them.

    Turkey. Where they see our Marines hold umbrellas for very powerful people having a chuckle.

    • Isn’t this actually one of the places where the protesting is a GOOD thing? Aren’t the Turks pretty secular? At least they were, pre-Erdogan. I think the people are protesting him getting more Muslim/sharia-like.

      “In building new mosques and emphasizing Turkey’s Islamic past over its Byzantine and Roman legacies, Mr. Erdogan has been referred to as a latter-day Ottoman sultan, with little regard for seeking public input on the projects. On Wednesday, the government held a groundbreaking ceremony for a third bridge over the Bosporus that is being named for an Ottoman sultan.

      It’s all about superiority, and ruling over the people like sultans,” said one of the protesters, Seckin Barbaros, 26, a former journalist who is now unemployed. “When were we asked what we wanted? We have three times the amount of mosques as we do schools. Yet they are building new mosques. There are eight shopping malls in the vicinity of Taksim, yet they want to build another.””

      So seems like these young people don’t want to be enslaved by sharia any more than we do. Turkey was the one Muslim country that was as close to westernized as possible. Isn’t Turkey in NATO? I think so. Used to be, Turkey was a vacation destination. Not so sure anymore. Their government supports those “rebels” in Syria, too. Can’t forget that Barry was likely funneling illegal arms to those al-Qaeda-connected “rebels” via Turkey and our late ambassador Stevens was meeting with a Turk the very night he got murdered. I wonder if Barry and the Turk were discussing that, under their umbrellas? Right after that meeting, Turkey blows up. Barry’s got the magic touch.

  15. “SuperMan” ….. Jesus…… Man of STEEL

  16. A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.

    ~Pres. Thomas Jefferson~


    ACLU is suing Barry over his “dragnet”. I hope they get “just the facts, ma’am.” 🙂 Seriously, they finally are good for something. More power to them.


      Nine Companies Tied to PRISM, Obama Will Be Smacked With Class-Action Lawsuit Wednesday
      AOL, Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, PalTalk, Skype, Yahoo! and Youtube will be named in the suit, attorney says

      Nine Companies Tied to PRISM, Obama Will Be Smacked With Class-Action Lawsuit Wednesday
      AOL, Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, PalTalk, Skype, Yahoo! and Youtube will be named in the suit, attorney says

      By Steven Nelson
      June 11, 2013 RSS Feed Print

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      (Evan Vucci/AP)

      Attorney Larry Klayman hopes to turn up the legal heat on President Barack Obama over his administration’s secret domestic surveillance programs.

      Former Justice Department prosecutor Larry Klayman amended an existing lawsuit against Verizon and a slew of Obama administration officials Monday to make it the first class-action lawsuit in response to the publication of a secret court order instructing Verizon to hand over the phone records of millions of American customers on an “ongoing, daily basis.”

      Klayman told U.S. News he will file a second class-action lawsuit Wednesday in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia targeting government officials and each of the nine companies listed in a leaked National Security Agency slideshow as participants in the government’s PRISM program.

      According to the slideshow, the PRISM program allows government agents direct, real-time access to the servers of nine major tech companies, including AOL, Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, PalTalk, Skype, Yahoo! and YouTube. …”

      By any means necessary. Whatever it takes. Klayman doesn’t stop, either.

  18. Rosemary Woodhouse

    The bottom line: Zullo, Kessler, Arpaio put up or shut up! With all due respect, stop talking and start doing. Undue drama for an extraordinary and unprecedented act of treason against our nation. All of this attention whoring only serves ONCE AGAIN to show your hand and give Mao’s legal team and PR machine (the media) time to be bought and material to prepare. I have a headache. This is 2007 all over again! F#@k!n% groundhog day! Am thoroughly disgusted by the verbal diarrhea, abysmal poker playing skills and inaction! Rant over.

  19. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Oh crap! Edit: “All of this attention whoring only serves ONCE AGAIN to show your hand and give Mao’s legal team and PR machine (the media) time to be bought and material to prepare.”

    “And in case I don’t see you, good afternoon, good evening, and good night”, Truman Burbank

  20. We haven’t discussed that shooting in Santa Monica.

    “John Zawahri, who would have turned 24 on Saturday, has been identified by authorities as the deceased suspect in the Santa Monica College Shootings that have so far left six people (including Zawahri) dead and four others wounded.”
    It’s only coincidence that the shooter’s name is Zawahri (so like Zawahiri, the number one terrorist in the world). His actions have NOTHING to do with being Middle Eastern, nothing to do with sharia, their culture, etc., or so they say. I don’t know if he WAS Muslim; of course the stories don’t say. (He’s dead now like most of the other shooters are. Shot by the cops.) His mother is Lebanese Arab, according to the stories. Since his name was John, who knows? Father’s name was Samir. Brother’s name was Chris, so sounds possibly Christian. Lots of Lebanese are Maronite Christians. In any case, they say the media isn’t reporting on this so much now that he’s turned out to be not white (as originally reported). They say he had mental issues. Of course, as usual, the reports of a second shooter have been dismissed. Just a rumor. Armed to the gills although KNOWN to be nuts. I’m bringing it up because today I heard that the Sandy Hook “parents” are going YET AGAIN to DC to push for gun control AGAIN. And now this shooting and guess what? Barbara Boxer is POLITICIZING IT. What a surprise. And how fortuitous for the gun controllers:

    Boxer Hopes Santa Monica Shooting Gives ‘Wind At Our Back’ For Gun Control

    Another shooting – another serious crisis not to be wasted. Liberal Senator Barbara Boxer hopes the Santa Monica shooting, which left six people dead, will “give us wind at our back” in the push for gun control.

    Even though the left’s latest effort – led by Barack Obama – to enact tougher gun-control legislation in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook shooting failed in the Democrat-controlled Senate, Boxer expressed hope that Friday’s shooting spree in Santa Monica will revitalize the effort.

    Every single time something like this happens, I think this does give us wind at our back,” Boxer said on MSNBC over the weekend. Boxer said she does “worry about” the failure of the legislation after the Sandy Hook shooting, but knows that gun-control supporters “never give up.”

    For once, I have to agree with Barbara Boxer: the left never gives up on gun-control (or anything else). Maybe when the next shooting comes around, they’ll have another opportunity to “never let a serious crisis to go to waste,” in the immortal words of Rahm Emanuel. One can always hope.”

    What a horrible woman. I’m sure the families of the victims are happy to learn that their Congresswoman is glad to know that their deaths might serve as “wind at her back” to push her political agenda. HOW DID THIS CRAZY DUDE GET ALL THOSE WEAPONS? The current laws in CA were insufficient?

  21. Really. Barry is such a jerk. After the media would not meet at the WH in that secret meeting, Barry just showed up unannounced at another secret meeting, so the media wouldn’t have a chance to stand him up.

    Obama Schmoozes Reporters At Secret Meeting

    The president popped into an off-the-record briefing with reporters Monday.

    President Obama held an off-the-record meeting with select reporters from some of the nation’s largest print and online outlets Monday, in the White House’s latest effort to placate an increasingly restive press corps.

    White House officials regularly meet with reporters for so-called “background briefing sessions,” where the attendees cannot be mentioned by name nor quoted directly, but Monday’s meeting was different. Initially billed as a conversation with White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, the president made a surprise appearance — a very unusual move — and the White House placed the proceedings off the record beforehand. The meeting came amid a series of scandals crashing over the White House that has placed the administration on defense in a way it hasn’t been until now. …

    Reporters who attended Monday’s session with the president were loathe to discuss it with BuzzFeed, citing the White House’s stipulation that the meeting remain off the record. But the session came after the White House announced a “travel/photo lid” for the day — White House parlance for no more events, and the signal for the pool reporter to go home — and reporters from The New York Times, Washington Post, Huffington Post, Time, McClatchy, Politico, Tribune, NPR, Bloomberg, USA Today, AFP, Yahoo and other outlets were milling around the briefing room waiting to be called in. In total, about two dozen reporters were included. (BuzzFeed was not invited to the meeting, although a reporter, who did not know the president would be present, requested to be included. [I’m sure FOX wasn’t there, either.])

    New York Times White House reporter Peter Baker said reporters had not been told that Obama would be in the session, and that if he had known, he and his editors would have reconsidered whether to attend. …”

    They should have walked out. They have ZERO CREDIBILITY when they “schmooze” in private with this so-called president. He’s not sharing “wisdom” off the record; he’s sharing lies and making fools of them once again.


    U.S. Ambassador to Belgium Denies Accusations He Had Sex With Minors

    In a fast-developing story, U.S. ambassador to Belgium Howard Gutman has been named as the diplomat accused of soliciting “sexual favors from both prostitutes and minor children,” according to State Department documents obtained by NBC News. Gutman denied the allegations, in a statement to The Cable and other outlets.

    “I am angered and saddened by the baseless allegations that have appeared in the press and to watch the four years I have proudly served in Belgium smeared is devastating,” he said. “At no point have I ever engaged in any improper activity.”

    Gutman came under the spotlight on Monday after CBS obtained an internal memo from the department’s inspector general detailing eight examples of alleged misconduct by staff or contractors ranging from soliciting prostitutes to obtaining narcotics from an “underground drug ring.” The report also alleged that the agency tried to cover up instances of misconduct, something State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki called “preposterous.”

    According to one veteran Brussels reporter speaking to The Cable, Gutman “is something of a legend here.” He’s known as “the American guy who goes to shitty little Belgian towns even Belgians haven’t heard of,” in an effort to strengthen ties with the locals. “He’s pretty much always on Belgian TV apparently.”

    Speaking of the two allegations — solicitation of prostitutes and minors — the source said: “The first charge is unsurprising in ‘like, whatever’ Belgium. But the second is shocking and out-of-character if proved.” He said the ambassador is known for his “sharp and wicked humor.”

    “[He] lives in a gigantic pad between Royal Palace and Parliament,” the source said. “Florid reception room, which I imagine gets a lot of use — could easily hold 100.” …”

    This is the incident that Hillary’s State Dept. tried to cover up. Living large on the taxpayers’ dime. What’s new?

  23. In moderation at 10:10 pm.

  24. June 11, 2013

    Lord Monckton:

    “Obama identity fraud: The net closes in”

    “Mike Zullo, the volunteer chief investigator for Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz., is not letting go. Like a bulldog, he continues to investigate the outrageously bogus “birth certificate” Mr. Obama personally endorsed as his own when it was posted at the White House website a year before the last presidential election.

    Mike Zullo’s investigation has now continued for almost two years. He has amassed many thousands of pages of evidence. His draft investigation report is already more than 300 pages long, and he reckons it will be 700 pages before it is complete.

    There is some explosive evidence that he has not yet disclosed, because it concerns third parties who may be connected with the forgery.

    Especially for WND’s readers, I have updated a report that I compiled last year on the numerous typewriter errors in the White House document. The pdf document is available at this link.

    Click to access monckton-obama-type13.pdf

    Here is my challenge to the Obots. Provide a rational explanation for the irregularities I have identified in my report. Whether or not the typewriter errors are as serious as I consider them to be, there are many other errors.

    So know this: Mike Zullo’s net is closing in, and – however many reputations you try to trash for the sake of saving your fallen hero – Black Jesus is doomed.”

    • I wonder if he included the new anomalies that law enforcement guys pointed out at that conference. It’s so obviously fake that anyone can see it; therefore, they are WILLFULLY ignoring it and allowing the fraud to happen. So, is there any hope at all that Congress is going to act? “What difference, AT THIS POINT, does it make?” We’re screwed. It’s a done deal. IMHO, they will punt yet again, HOPE to run out the clock, HOPE to get control of both houses of Congress in 2014, HOPE to get the presidency in 2016: HOPE FOR CHANGE. Is hope enough?

    • “I asked one congressman why he had done nothing about the forgery. He replied: “It is unquestionably a forgery. We all know that. But you, with your experience of what the left will do to the reputations of those who challenge it, know that if any of us were to raise this issue we would be subjected to the same hatred, vilification and organized reputational damage that you have had to endure because you challenged them on climate change.”

      He added, “Scientifically and economically, your challenge was correct. But they didn’t care about that. They did their level best to trash your reputation anyway. I value my reputation, and I dare not take the risk of having it destroyed.””

      Whoever this is, the person values his reputation MORE THAN HIS COUNTRY! What a patriot.

  25. FIVE years today
    At “The Obama File”:

    “Currently there are two copies of Obama’s alleged Certification of Live Birth (COLB) on the Internet from the Obama campaign. The original COLB was posted on PolitiFact and the Daily Kos [—] on June 12, 2008. Kos says he received the document from the Obama campaign. Then we have one posted on Obama’s campaign website. These documents appear to be identical. This is the version of the document that Obama’s campaign alleges came from the State of Hawaii — the State of Hawaii says no.

    The third, is posted on […]. The first thing to notice is that the document is slightly different than the other two.

    You have entered the “Twilight Zone.””

    • TODAY? Don’t remind us, Gordo. Five years of our lives lost, past, gone. Hard to believe.

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        I was thinking this just last night. We are an intelligent but “interesting” group. Miri asked the other day if we are blessed or cursed for having had foreknowledge of what these past five years would be like. We’ve all been involved for six. I say “interesting” because while most of the country carried on with their lives, ignorant to the coup that was occurring we’ve fretted, fumed and tried to sound the trumpet. I mean it’s really mind boggling how much time we’ve spent in this patriotic endeavor. I just pray it wasn’t in vain.

        I have to believe that regardless of the outcome we are meant to be witnesses.

        • You think so, RW? Well, we’re witnesses alright. Maybe I’d rather be clueless. I’d have less stress and the resultant symptoms.

          • I’d also have a cleaner house, a nicer garden, a mowed lawn, trimmed bushes, ironed and mended clothes, better food (via better cooking instead of throwing things together), better relationships. Has it been worth it? Time will tell. We’re Cassandras. Will we ever be vindicated?

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            I hope so, Miri. Time we’ll never get back. I just hope and pray it hasn;t been:

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            I correct that. We ARE meant to be witnesses. I guess it’s our solemn and perhaps sacred duty.

        • RM, you said you were “thinking last night”….”we Are an Intelligent BUT “interesting ” group. Somehow that struck me funny. Intelligent,BUT interesting. Guess that’s why I remain somewhat silly and unintelligable, so as to remain interesting. I know, I’m not adding anything to important matters at this moment, but I just had to comment. Actually ,ya’ll proportionately appear to be intelligent and most the time interesting.

    • Five years ago today on my personal blog…

      Is Obama’s “Birth Certificate” a Fraud?
      Posted on June 12, 2008

      • Happy Birther Day, Red Pill. 🙂

        • ~ Hey Red Pill ~ No-body can take away …. our Birth-er-day!
          Come join the party, it’s a celebration
          Anybody just won’t do
          Let’s get this started, no more hesitation
          Coz’ everybody wants to party with you
          ~ MADONNA ~ shout out!

        • Thank you, Miri, but I won’t feel like celebrating until Congress actually investigates and reveals the TRUTH about this Bill Ayers-backed FRAUD.

          Bill Ayers has always been an Islam-loving, violent, revolutionary communist. He never changed his mind; he only changed his methods of attacking the U.S.

          A Different “9/11 Truth”
          Posted on August 27, 2008

          Ayers is a Violent, Revolutionary Communist. What is Obama?
          Posted on October 25, 2008

          • You’re right. I was just enamored of the pun. Birth-er day. 😉 I wonder if we’ll ever be able to celebrate? Will we ever learn the truth and if everyone ever does, will it matter at that point–when Obama’s managed to destroy the Republic? What difference will it make, AT THAT POINT? They should have stopped him before he ever began. They SHOULD have vetted him then. It’s ironic because the fools in that Senate hearing today were actually talking about how important it is to VET the 1.4 MILLION people who currently have TOP SECRET clearance in the USA. Yep. 1.4 MILLION people, including Snowden–this so-called high-school and community-college dropout, former janitor, who SOMEHOW got a high-paying job with access to TOP SECRETS at the CIA, NSA, and Booz. HOW is that even possible? Well, they don’t even background check their candidates, so who would expect them to background check the “folks” who work for the unvetted one?

            I’m still trying to deduce what Beck is talking about. If it’s something that will divide the country (as if it’s not divided now), then it can’t be something that’s universally damaging to all of us. It has to be something that’s typically partisan, except that he says it will take down people of both parties. Well, we have those pesky RINOs. It’s a “document”, so what could it be? It’s scary, that’s all I know. I get tired of the theatrics. It does nobody any favors to hide truths and frighten everyone. Beck claims they need a forum. Well, he has a HUGE ONE. Why would the person need to be before Congress and on TV? If the person talks on Beck’s show, how much more public would it need to be? People are saying Beck met with as many as 40 Congress members recently. Oh, yeah? When was this? And THEY can’t do anything for this whistleblower?


              An analysis of Beck’s claims. Still don’t know what he’s getting at. Perhaps a plan to pull the plug on “conservative” media? Total gummint control of all media? After all, they did get Rosen’s phone records. What else did they get?


                “Steve King: Snowden’s Actions May Have Alerted Congress

                … Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, [talked about Snowden] “… he may well have provided a service for us so that now we know what’s going on and now Congress can actually address it,” King said in an exclusive interview.

                Snowden told the press about an NSA program code-named PRISM which allows the government to secretly gather data on phone records, emails, videos, photographs and more posted online. Critics say that while the program technically grabs communications of American citizens, it is used only on non-citizens to prevent terrorism.

                King responded to critics who say Congress doesn’t do enough to learn what the nation’s spy agencies are up to. When members attend classified meetings, they are given some secret information, but only what the agencies want to share with them. It is up to Senators and representatives to ask the right questions to get anything else out of them – and “if you don’t already have the information, you’re not going to know the right questions to ask.” [And even if they ask them, they get “the least untruthful” answers possible.]

                Snowden has given Congress information that will allow it to focus on the NSA’s policies, King said. “To some degree we’ve been snowed by the federal government and the executive branch of government,” he said.

                Director of National Intelligence James Clapper denied in a March Senate Intelligence Committee hearing that the NSA collects data on Americans on a widescale basis. It might happen “inadvertently” from time to time, Clapper said.

                King said the “dragnet” of scooping up all information, including on Americans, is not an accident. He was involved in the crafting of the Patriot Act after 9/11, he said, and the language of the law clearly states that only communications between non-citizens not on American soil apply. …

                With the PRISM program capable of tracking everyone’s Internet activity, the post office photographing the front and the back of every letter, the potential of abuse is huge, King tells Newsmax.

                Further, King warned, Congress must be concerned that threat of IRS audit or a government wiretap might curtail people’s lawful activiities.

                How many people have decided they’re just going to hunker down and stay out of activism and what happens to the political center of America if we let that happen?” King said, referring the IRS targeting of conservative groups. “It’s a huge danger to us. We’re going to have to examine all of this and reassess it.”

                Attorney General Eric Holder and his staff have not been helpful when they testify to Congress, King said.

                “Instead, they’ve taken the posture that they’re going to endure the testimony, the questions from Congress, rather than inform us. That’s been Eric Holder’s posture. How many times has he said, I don’t know? I don’t know? I don’t know?””

                I saw King on Hannity tonight and he was as livid as he gets for a relatively calm guy. He mentioned how they also photograph SNAIL MAIL (as we learned recently from the ricin case). So he’s on the ball. THIS is something that if pushed will cause a rift between Republicans and DemoncRATS (within each party) and can take some people down. Each party has people who support this stuff and others who oppose it. King seems to GET IT. He knows that this is a recipe for tyranny. He talked about the software programs that allow them to mine this information and potentially how they can abuse it and use it against political enemies. Snowden alluded to the fact that in the intelligence agencies, their reaction is to just off anybody who’s a threat. That’s his fear. He said it’s basically knee-jerk for them to do so. Just take dissidents out. With what happened to Breitbart …

                This whole enterprise might be like Skynet in the Terminator movies. Self-protective. Goes online and nearly impossible to get offline again.

                • Ted Cruz is said to be one of the people Beck met with this week in DC.

                  “State Department Whistleblower, a Career Foreign Service Officer, Seeks Congressional Protection After State Threatens Her Kids
                  Bryan Preston

                  The State Department whistleblower is Aurelia Fedenisn. She worked in the department’s inspector general’s office until her retirement in December 2012. According to USA Today, she has sought protection as an official whistleblower after the State Department directly threatened her, once at her home. It threatened her with criminal charges when she turned over documents to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) showing evidence that the department had watered down her report, in which she alleged that the department at the highest levels had scuttled eight investigations into a range of criminal wrongdoing. …”

                  James Rosen of FOX said that there are as many as 8 different investigations at Dept. of State concerning crimes and allegations that the higher ups tried to cover up and interfere in the investigations.

            • I think the reason the left went with the name “Birther” is because they had, for decades, been successful in maligning and marginalizing members of the John Birch Society as “Birchers”. The left falsely accused them of racism (shocker!) and did everything they could to mock, belittle, label, and ostracize members of the John Birch Society, in an effort to make others ignore their message.

              So the left did the same with those who sought the truth about Obama.

  26. June 12, 2013

    “Latest Breaking Developments from Mike Zullo – 6/12/2013 – information you may have NEVER heard before! American people have been DEFRAUDED!”

    • Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Hussein Obama, Soebarkah. Those are the four aliases Zullo mentions.

      They cannot make a “positive identification” of Obama, based upon their law enforcement investigation.

      400 alumni of Columbia and nobody remembers him. That’s a problem with his “background”. This is stuff that’s unheard of. As president of the Harvard Law Review, he never authored a paper. There’s NO supporting documentation that he existed here before age 5. There’s no evidence to substantiate who his parents are. Only photos that have been circulated. There’s NO EVIDENCE to back it up. No evidence that either is his biological parent. That’s the problem.

      In any investigation, they would be able to find EVIDENCE of SOMEBODY who could substantiate a person’s background. (I wonder if they talked to Babs Nelson, Eleanor Nordyke, or Ms. Waidelich–all women who claimed to have first-hand knowledge of little Barry.)

      With such a “murky background”, a person would not be able to get a job even as a janitor at the WH.

      The radio host suggests that as a “shadow” person and a “manufactured” person, he’s been “placed here” even at a young age. He’s a “foreign plant”. Zullo says all he can say is that this is an individual where law enforcement cannot “track his roots.” They contacted the federal government employee system and were told there’s NO AGENCY that vets the candidates. There’s NO VETTING of the background of any candidate.

      Zullo says “you are being conditioned to accept things” that are not constitutional, regardless of what the Constitution says. (Of course this is true, just look at the FISA stuff. It’s all unconstitutional.)

      Zullo says public outcry will force Congress to do something. Well, without the “evidence” Zullo claims he has, how CAN the public cry out?

      Zullo points out (correctly) that adjudication will simply run out the clock for as many as five years, and we don’t have that time to (my words) save us from Obama’s policies.

      Zullo says he has REAL EVIDENCE. It’s provable, verified, that the LFCOLB is fake. He says the document was created to add, conceal, or erase evidence. (Duh!) He says they have “smoking guns” in the form of at least 11 things that any document examiner would say make the document null and void. But they have found new information that removes ANY DOUBT that the document is fraudulent. (Seems to be something beyond the document itself.)

      He says, however, they don’t know YET what’s been changed, concealed, or erased (so that’s not promising. I was hoping they KNEW who and WHAT Barry is. Still wondering if they know Sinclair wasn’t delivering kids that day.)

      Zullo doesn’t know for a fact who is the number one suspect on the forgery yet. (I thought we heard that they knew.) The verification that AZ got is not a verification of the creation of the pdf. They have said “information” matches but did not VERIFY that they created that document (which isn’t a document but a digital image). Hawaii is complicit.

      The state of Hawaii allows amendments even via self-reporting by the person who was born! Rather amazing, huh? (We knew this, of course.)

      The public has NEVER seen the real certified documents given to Judith Corley. (DUH!) Attorney/client privilege may not be as strong as they may think. They won’t be able to invoke it before Congress, but this was done to create (as we said right off) plausible deniability for Barry. They didn’t even let Barry touch the BC (as we also said right off). All done to create plausible deniability for him. Any normal individual, hearing the questions about the authenticity of his birth certificate, would have acted immediately to have the REAL BC produced. (Of course, we know Barry is anything but “normal”. We’ve been demanding for Congress to do something for 5 years now. I’m sick and tired of being told to wait and “stay tuned” to P.P. Simmons for more information.)

      Zullo says he doesn’t know if Barry “qualifies” or not, which means that he does NOT know who Barry’s parents are or where he was really born. So that puts the lie to Kessler’s claims, doesn’t it? It follows that if Zullo doesn’t know if he’s qualified for the presidency, then he doesn’t KNOW that Barry’s not an “American” (which he must be at least at this point-perhaps) or that Barry’s not even Kenyan (which he may still be, depending upon the truth of the matter).

      So what was NEW in this video? Anyone know?

  27. The real president declares that Algore was the real previous president:

    He lives in fantasy land. Even the COMPLICIT lamestream media had to admit, after an extensive investigation, that BUSH WON THE ELECTION. FAIR AND SQUARE, despite their best attempts at vote fraud, which they perfected in 2012.

  28. June 12, 2013

    “Sheriff Richard Mack on InfoWars talking about Obama’s forged birth certificate”

    • Right. And the Cold Case Posse will reveal their “irrefutable” and “unimpeachable” evidence about the LFCOLB. Soon. Just stay tuned to P.P. Simmons. It’s like waiting for a letter of transit in Casablanca. Wait, and wait, and wait.

    • I don’t know but the obots are hitting the comment section HARD over on that YouTube vid. They’re VERY concerned.
      It’s an all out attack on Beck over there on Youtube, thumbing down any supportive comments in order to hide them. The Brownshirts have been called into action. lol

    • CDR Kerchner’s comment at ORYR:

      [also at his blog]

      “The chickens are coming home to roost on the RNC and DNC complicity in the protection and coverup of the greatest criminal and political fraud and treason against the U.S. Constitution in the history of our nation:”

        • ~ The LORD’S PRAYER ~

          FATHER’S DAY is this SUNDAY how Heavenly is THAT!
          ~ & read below the prayer’s also, we might have forgotten?

          May we get the strength ~ to be together ~ in making it ALL right …

        • Well, the only thing it could be is the same thing I know and can almost positively prove, or it’s something with ties to that. I am not joking….I feel the same way about there being no one to trust or tell without fear that even in their looking into what I know would be dangerous for people .

          • Mike Macoy 43 minutes ago
            Glenn U R part of the PROBLEM!
            If you stopped criticizing the ‘birthers’ and took the time to study the evidence Zullo brought forward 21 months ago you could have tripled the listening audience and got the word out about the FRAUD in the WH that has lead a war on America.
            Trump had more balls than you.
            Just a thought.

          • Zenway, there is NO WAY Glenn has not studied all the facts; everything on Obama. But he keeps quiet. By plan. His plan. Will wait until he is the one breaking the bombshell. That is how he rolls. Ego.

          • i have realized that all along, alfy.

        • He “believes” this. We know how “dire” the situation is. We’ve known for over 5 years.

          Ok. Beck says we’re going to be “greatly divided” in the next 10 days and we’ll see things we have never seen before. The whistleblower is so afraid for his life. He’s reached out to an ally (of Beck’s?) for information. One document seen by Beck’s people could take down the whole power structure. The whistleblower won’t do it unless he’s in front of Congress and televised. He says he’s dead, otherwise. It will take down both parties. Many members of Congress and outside of Congress, too. We haven’t even begun to be outraged.

          Boy! That’s hard to imagine. I can’t imagine feeling more outrage than I’ve already felt over the past 5 years. So will this actually be brought out? How/when will this guy ever have Congress to speak to and televised, too?

          Will it take down our economy, too? I hope not. We can’t take much more of THAT, either.

          • It will be interesting to find out but while we are waiting….we are not on the Ben Gazzi issue.
            I know my own personal economy couldn’t get too much worse, well maybe.

  29. So I watched some of that Senate hearing today, with Gen. Alexander of the NSA testifying. MANY of the DemoncRATS on the committee pointed out Snowden’s lack of education and yet somehow he got into these databases via a high-paying position. Here’s our meme, which was beginning in the media, too. After Barry’s private meeting with them? Alexander talked about how this is a problem that he has to look into (so they can fix it and then move on). So what’s the purpose here? BARRY’S PLAN TO EDUCATE PEOPLE FOR HIS CIVILIAN ARMY. He wants money. He wants the government to “train” the “cyberwarrior” of the future. In high schools and community colleges! They seriously mentioned this. They talked about how 14 years ago a decision was made to outsource some of these functions (database administration). So WHAT’S the Barry/DemoncRAT solution? MORE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES WHO WILL JOIN UNIONS, BE ON THE PUBLIC PAYROLL, AND BE DEPENDENT UPON, YOU GUESSED IT, THE DEMONCRAT PARTY. They HATE private companies. They HATE capitalism. They want to create AS MANY public employees as possible. They want to dish out more taxpayer money to the local “schools” (high school/community colleges) for “cybersecurity education” and “workforce development”. We can’t let the market system fulfill the need. NOPE. The GOVERNMENT, a HUGE GOVERNMENT, needs to create the workforce. The brownshirts. Barry’s civilian army for DHS that will control all the databases that contain everything about YOU. Big Brother needs his minions. Does it begin to sort of make sense who and what Snowden is and what his role in all this MIGHT be? A test case so they get “wind at their backs” for Barry’s program to EDUCATE his cyberwarriors. They really used that word. This hearing was a love fest. Mikulski and Feinstein repeatedly interrupted any Republican senator who tried to get at the truth of this data mining. Mikulski actually then, in a sort of snit, quoted somebody named “Rosie” who had TWEETED what I just said–that she was doing her best to stop questions about data mining. They kept saying it needs to be discussed tomorrow in the SECRET hearing. Mikulski denied what she was doing, which was obvious.

    One of the senators pointed out that the Patriot Act specifically requires them to have what can simply be called “probable cause” before they can even COLLECT the data, whether or not they look at it. Feinstein tried to say that they just collect the data but don’t look at it without a warrant. Right. The IRS doesn’t persecute people, either. That would be illegal! And the Attorney General doesn’t go and lie to a judge to get a warrant on somebody, does he? We never did hear the answer to how the NSA thinks they can get around the clear words of the LAW, which says they cannot do what they’re doing. The senator said the law specifically says they cannot COLLECT the data, whether or not they look at it. Alexander also said that there are “audits” to prevent anyone from looking at or mining the data. Right. And there are audits to prevent ex-janitor, high-school-dropouts from getting Top Secret documents, too. Aren’t there? Another senator pointed out that 3 years ago, after the Wikileaks fiasco, they were SUPPOSED TO make sure this couldn’t happen again. And yet, here we are. Alexander’s response: He needs to look into how this happened, fix it, and move on. All that was left to say is “what difference, at this point, does it make?” It was ridiculous. The difference between an Issa hearing and a Mikulski hearing is amazing. This hearing was a joke. We got no answers. I didn’t hear the whole thing, so I don’t know if anybody actually asked Alexander how and why it is that he lied about this program 14 times to Congress already.


      That article quotes Lindsey Graham on the NSA spying and according to his version of what goes on, it’s far beyond what Feinstein just put out as what really happens. Graham says that they DO data mine to look for patterns across the whole database, regardless of whether or not they first have any warrant or any suspicion. They are parsing and playing games. “Looking” at the data, perhaps to Feinstein, isn’t the same as running software against it to spit something out that they then “look at” after getting a warrant. Huh? Ya think? I do. THEY LIE.

    • Thank you for the report, Miri.

      Patriot or Traitor?

      It really doesn’t matter what i think about that because this is all staged with a purpose of diverting the focus on the actual crimes already committed against Americans in dismantling our Bill of Rights and Controlling Elections.

      Not a thing to worry about with domestic enemy spying ~ you are safe.

      This is where I think the term “probable cause” is key with the sneaky theft of our person, our space and our thoughts > Its the very reason why they are tracking our every move… so they can get “probable cause” in order to harass us and taunt us. the circle of their lie. They are purposely collecting their Probable Cause to harass you, my Dear. UnAmerican.

      Patriot or Traitor? i pray he’s for real. a Patriot.

      We need a judge to come out and demand a cease and desist on this domestic enemy spying until it can be debated. (Its not even debatable anyway as The Federal Government has no Right in the first place.)

      We need to get back to the crimes we already know about it and bring Justice for the beligerent betrayals by our federal agencies in behalf of the Democratic Party and its Leadership.

      p.s. Barack: 4 dead in Benghazi. and the rest are MIA.

      • Don’t know yet what Lord Snowden is. Now they’re saying they’re worried he’ll defect to China and do incalculable damage on account of all that’s in his brain and that he might have stolen. Well, they maybe ought to have paid attention to that before hiring him, huh? It’s not like they shouldn’t have learned something after Bradley Manning and Wikileaks and young punks that are “geeks”.

        “… Those remarks [about us spying on China] alarmed intelligence officials, who considered those statements as much of a betrayal as his alleged leaking of highly classified files on the NSA’s vast surveillance program to two newspapers last week, the senior official said.

        Investigators are scrambling to piece together what may have been swiped by Snowden, [their alleged safeguards and fail safes and audits and red flags should have told them already!] who said he was in contact with two reporters to whom he eventually leaked Top Secret files before [!!!!] he took a $122,000 a year job as an NSA contractor with technology consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton in Hawaii last March.

        The Guardian, the British paper that first broke stories on NSA surveillance programs allegedly based on Snowden’s information, reported overnight that Snowden took four laptops filled with secrets [!!!! Some safeguards!] with him when he fled from Hawaii to Hong Kong late last month. Glenn Greenwald, a columnist for The Guardian, has promised more stories exposing U.S. operations were to come.

        Jeremy Bash, former CIA and Pentagon Chief of Staff, told ABC News today that the possibility of Snowden defecting to China, or even cooperating with Chinese officials, is a top concern for U.S. officials. [NOW it’s a top concern.]

        He could do tremendous damage,” Bash said during an interview for the ABC News/Yahoo Power Players series. “I think if a foreign government learned everything that was in Edward Snowden’s brain, they would have a good window into the way we collect signals intelligenceHe had access to highly classified information.” …”

        And this all happened as Barry met in CA with the Red Chinese. Coincidence or planned? Who’s the traitor? Who sent Lord Snowden on his mission?

        No wonder Rand Paul says he’s concerned that a drone strike may be in the offing.


    “Parents of Navy SEAL Killed in Afghan Crash File the First Suit on NSA Spying

    A couple in Philadelphia has filed a class-action lawsuit against the National Security Agency and Verizon, claiming they and their phone records were targeted for surveillance because of their outspoken criticism of Barack Obama and the U.S. military. This is believed to be the first official lawsuit filed against the government and the company, since it was revealed that Verizon had been ordered to turn over phone metadata for all of its customers.

    The couple who filed the class-action suit are not just any disgruntled Verizon customers, however. They are Charles and Mary Ann Strange, the parents of a Navy SEAL who was killed along with 37 others, when his helicopter was shot down in Afghanistan in 2011. Several of the families of those lost in the attack have questioned the Defense Department’s official story of the incident — one of the deadliest single events of the entire war for American troops — and they specifically blame President Obama’s polices for leading to those deaths. Among their many complaints: that Afghan forces working with the Americans may have set them up; that because many of those killed that day were members of the same unit that killed Osama bin Laden, publicizing their role in the earlier mission made them targets for retaliation; and that rules of engagement prevented the helicopter and the men on it from fighting back. They also claim that a Muslim cleric was invited to speak at the funeral, who then insulted the dead servicemen in Arabic, although there’s little evidence to support that charge. …”

    There’s a scribd at the link where you can read their case. I didn’t read it, so don’t know what they rest their “targeting” case on.


    Edward Snowden: US government has been hacking Hong Kong and China for years

    Former CIA operative makes more explosive claims and says Washington is ‘bullying’ Hong Kong to extradite him

    … Snowden said that according to unverified documents seen by the Post, the NSA had been hacking computers in Hong Kong and on the mainland since 2009. None of the documents revealed any information about Chinese military systems, he said.

    One of the targets in the SAR, according to Snowden, was Chinese University and public officials, businesses and students in the city. The documents also point to hacking activity by the NSA against mainland targets.

    Snowden believed there had been more than 61,000 NSA hacking operations globally, with hundreds of targets in Hong Kong and on the mainland.

    “We hack network backbones – like huge internet routers, basically – that give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of computers without having to hack every single one,” he said.

    “Last week the American government happily operated in the shadows with no respect for the consent of the governed, but no longer. Every level of society is demanding accountability and oversight.” …”

    He’s sounding more and more like a traitor to me. IMHO. Just sayin’. That said, Obama has set a very, very bad precedent, what with HIS drone strikes and all. It IS un-American, imho. He puts us at risk when he allows this kind of insane, rogue activity. Is this keeping us safe or putting us at risk?

  32. Sudden retirement that’s not easily found on the web searches, for some reason. Not on Drudge, either:

    CIA Deputy Director Michael Morell Retires

    The deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Michael Morell, has resigned.

    “As much as I would selfishly like to keep Michael right where he is for as long as possible, he has decided to retire to spend more time with his family and to pursue other professional opportunities,” CIA Director John Brennan said in a statement.

    Michael Morell served 33 years in the agency and was appointed the acting head after the abrupt resignation of retired Gen. David Petraeus. Brennan was eventually confirmed for that post.

    Morell was the man who briefed President George Bush on Sept. 11. And he was at President Obama’s side the day Osama bin Laden was killed during a raid in Pakistan. …”

  33. I’m wondering if the document Beck is talking about has anything to do with Benghazi and arming Al Qaeda terrorists in Syria via Turkey?

    • Or seeing as how Obama has avoided what’s going on in Turkey right now as if nothing has happened, maybe the Benghazi deal was arming someone first in Turkey for TURKEY ! Just saying, Syria’s rebels will get those weapons when Turkey’s rebels are finished with em. Turkey’s prime minister was on the news today warning his people.

    • Miri, your comment above… made me think of “What’s My Line” !
      tons of QUESTIONS…. so few ANSWERS … will it ever end?

  34. Or what the big guy… was really~really doing that Benghazi night?
    The bean spiller MUST back-up skype or videos in case of a Breitbart!
    I get a Val J. tape in my head.? & LC is worth a peek… O will rise’
    YES! this will get … wild & wooly … BUTT’ were AMERICANS …
    Justice 4 all that went before ME ~ SOULS LOST ~ I FIGHT BACK!

  35. AR-15s. seriously.

    “As law enforcement officials, IRS Criminal Investigation Special Agents are equipped similarly to other federal, state and local law enforcement organizations. Special Agents receive training on the appropriate and safe use of assigned weapons. IRS Criminal Investigation has internal controls and oversight in place to ensure all law enforcement tools, including weapons are used appropriately,” the IRS said.

    Read more:

  36. Personally I think Beck is right. Stuff that I’ve read over at CW’s, Cabbyaz said that he met with 40 congressmen, and that they were greatly stirred. Then someone else said, I think it was HonorFirst, that he was in NY, met with Senators, congressmen….something about the next 24 to 36 hours…then a few whistleblowers were coming forward.

    Oh, then I clicked a link which linked to Beck, then from their to Canada Free Press, and it’s this.

  37. After reading that at CFP, I wonder if it’s about that person, DHS insider.

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