IRSgate: Nobody Knows Anything (Open Thread)

© Miri WTPOTUS May 22, 2013

Barack ObamaThe outrage at the IRS continues.  By now, nearly everyone knows that Tea Party, 9/12, “patriot”, and other conservative groups, including religious groups, were specifically targeted by the IRS, after Obama and his party were “shellacked” (by the Tea Party) in the 2010 election and after the Supreme Court issued the Citizens United decision, affirming that such groups have free speech rights under the U.S. Constitution. 

Because of the “inappropriate” targeting, conservative groups were sidelined during the election of 2012.  Some groups continue to be sidelined, because their applications for tax exempt status remain in limbo.

Lois Lerner today took the Fifth and refused to testify to a House Committee.

Douglas Shulman, who led the IRS during most of the time that the targeting took place, seems to know little and “remembers” even less.

Hearings continue.  Will Congress will ever get to the bottom of this scandal?   Representative Darrell Issa intends to keep up his dogged investigation until the truth comes out.

The Obama administration, if we’re to believe what we’re told, is like an asylum in which the inmates run amok.  Although there ARE managers, administrators, secretaries, and CEOs, they seem to do nothing, although all warm seats and collect big salaries.

These “leaders” seem to know nothing; they supervise nothing; they investigate nothing; they see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil.

Why are We the People paying them, if these agencies run themselves? Our country has a $17 trillion debt.  Budgets are running deficits. Why are we wasting millions, if not billions, on supervisory administrators who seem to do nothing and know nothing?

In the Obamanation, nobody is responsible for anything. The buck stops nowhere.  Responsibility is diffused.  All that Obama’s appointees, acolytes, and employees will do is to express regret, “dismay”, and sadness about their failures, as if they have no responsibility for anything.  “Foolish mistakes were made.”  But no named person made them.

Somebody created that “be on the lookout” list (BOLO)–the now-infamous list of “keywords” that IRS employees used to stymie applications of groups that opposed Obama’s policies.

Obama’s administration is doing its best to stymie the investigation into the IRS targeting of conservative groups.  Today we learned that the IRS will not cough up communications between the IRS and the White House [emphasis added]:

What did the White House know about the IRS targeting conservative groups and when did it know it?

Crucial evidence needed to develop an accurate answer to that question would include the records of any communications that went back and forth between the IRS and the White House on the topic.

In a May 14 letter signed by Chairman Dave Camp and Ranking Member Sander Levin, the House Ways and Means Committee demanded precisely those records from the IRS. In the same letter, the committee also demanded the records of any communications between IRS and the Treasury on the matter, plus other information and records that would help the committee understand the facts about IRS actions that subjected to heightened scrutiny conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status.

Chairman Camp and Ranking Member Levin gave the IRS a deadline of Tuesday, May 21 to comply with their committee’s demand for the information and records.

The IRS–which requires working Americans to file their tax returns by an April 15 deadline each year or else face penalties–did not comply with this deadline imposed by the congressional committee that has oversight over its activities.

This issue finally seems to be uniting Democrats and Republicans, in the sense that at least some Democrats in the House seemed outraged by the lack of cooperation and stonewalling that they see coming out of the Obama administration.   Congress needs to exert its position as first among the three co-equal branches of this government. It’s about time that all the representatives of the people actually represent We the People.


219 responses to “IRSgate: Nobody Knows Anything (Open Thread)

  1. So he admits it: Boston was NOT a terrorist attack (must have been a false flag, then). We already know that Fort Hood was just workplace violence. Does this include Sandy Hook and Aurora, et al, too?

    Obama stretches terror definitions in national security speech, claims ‘no large-scale attacks on the United States’ since 9/11

    In a long-awaited speech at the National Defense University, Barack Obama claimed that the nature of international terror attacks threatening the United States has changed since Sept. 11, 2001, with ‘no large-scale attacks’ on America occurring since then.

    But his definition of ‘large-scale attacks,’ his speech made clear, doesn’t include the 2013 Boston Marathon attack that wounded hundreds, the 2012 Benghazi terror attack that injured dozens and killed four, and the 2009 attack at Fort Hood that killed 13 and injured 30.

    All those attacks had the potential to leave far more American bodies in their wake than they actually did. …”

    The story does a good job of trying to explain Barry’s twisted logic.

  2. BO… Failed again & again & again… think he was going to be
    flyin’ high.. in his “Choomwagon”? or was he already high?
    or a disrespecting game play? has he not got it YET???

    • He is deliberately mentally abusing, slapping around those he has proclaimed his enemies and terrorists; Tea Party, Loyalist Americans, Gun Owners, Those that keep trying to make him accountable and those that keep trying to expose him to his blind followers. If anyone doubted the umbrella move was not directed at us and an attempt to tear town our morale, this latest should prove it. He disrespected the Marines AND ALL HE THEY STANDS FOR (the list enemies and FREEDOM) twice this time: once when he did not return the salute, a move that should after five years be automatic. The second time was when he came back down and proved it was not an oversight to salute when he shook the Marine’s hand instead of saluting. These things are being done to see how many and who are outraged. If his fans and loyal base DON”T join in the disgust it is onward and forward with the next open and transparent move in the usurpation. It is a monitor to determine if the country is ready for coming out of the closet — as having overtaken the country. At this point, if Obama was removed from office, whether it be resigning, voted out, impeachment, or God forbid, assassination, it will have no impact on where the country is at. We have been infilterated at every level. Every level.

      • Ooops that should be “AND ALL THEY STAND FOR” can it be fixed?

        • Hoot …We get good at reading what is written or mis-written as we
          don’t do it with INTENT… to trick or cover-up…. butt’ with sheer
          lightning flying out of both eyes… I’d rather B in Hawaii on a beach!

      • With Memorial Day coming up, too. He disdains the military and all they stand for, as you said.

    • He has learned nothing after all this time. 😦

    • Exactly WHAT are they REALLY GROWING in that GARDEN????

  3. the 3 Stooges of BIG Government… as they grind down peoples
    Hopes & Dreams …. la la la

  4. The Empty.. CHAIR (head)…SYNDROME … it’s everywhere yikes!!!

    • “… Excuse me? Did I hear that right!? He’s lecturing the graduates of the U.S. Naval Academy about sexual assault? At their graduation ceremony!!?? Is that really appropriate, even if you are the man who can fix anything with his silver tongue?… ”

      I had the same exact thought. What a memory the POtuS has created for these graduates! Instead of honoring them for their accomplishments and for their service to their country, he LECTURES them about sexual assaults (most of which aren’t “assaults” because of the skewed way they compiled their stats) that presumably THEY had nothing to do with. The failures, if ANY, belong with the people at the top, including Barry himself, who is the Commander in Chief, after all. He appoints the people to set the tone. The buck stops with BARRY. What got me is that he spoke to them about HONOR. Their honor and how important it needs to be. This, coming from a man who OBVIOUSLY doesn’t know the meaning of the concept.

      Benghazi? Fast and Furious? IRA-gate? Rosen-gate? AP-gate? Sebelius-gate? PASSPORT-gate? LFCOLB-gate? On, and on, and on. This is HONOR from the “most transparent administration” in history?

    • Federal agents dressed in paramilitary gear swooped into Gibson Guitar’s Tennessee headquarters on August 24, 2011. The agents from the US Fish and Wildlife Service claimed that Gibson was using illegally imported foreign wood in their guitars. When the dust settled, Gibson was out countless lost work hours while its manufacturing was shut down, and it agreed to pay a total of $350,000 in fees, even though it had not knowingly done anything wrong. [They should have fought all the way to the SCOTUS.]In fact, it had done nothing that its competitor, C. F. Martin guitars, had not done, but the feds never dispatched any armed troops against Martin.

      The Gibson raid never made much sense. There was no risk of fight or flight. Businesses are inspected and fined routinely every day by any of a number of federal agencies. Gibson’s case, supposing there even was a legitimate one, could have been sorted out with phone calls, not a swoop resembling a raid on a terrorist hideout. The tactics alone never made much sense. [SAME TACTICS used on Tea Partiers: Define them as potential domestic terrorists. Why? To perhaps intimidate them into NOT SPEAKING? Which was the same purpose of the Obama Truth Squads?]

      Until now…?

      Grossly underreported at the time was the fact that Gibson’s chief executive, Henry Juszkiewicz, contributed to Republican politicians. Recent donations have included $2,000 to Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., and $1,500 to Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn.

      By contrast, Chris Martin IV, the Martin & Co. CEO, is a long-time Democratic supporter, with $35,400 in contributions to Democratic candidates and the Democratic National Committee over the past couple of election cycles. [Allegedly committed same “crimes”; not treated as Gibson, however. I wonder why? Reward your friends; punish your enemies. Welcome to the Soviet Socialist Union of Amerika.]

      Taken in isolation, the Gibson raid could be a one-off, but it didn’t happen in isolation. Gibson was one target, Catherine Engelbrecht in Texas was another. Both suffered significant harassment at the hands of executive branch agencies. Despite assurances that the IRS abuse of activists like Engelbrecht is in the past, her True the Vote application still has not been resolved after three years.

      Is it possible that the executive branch really was unleashed on Americans and their businesses just because they oppose Barack Obama? [It’s PROBABLE.]Or was it that, plus as the EPA’s former enforcer Al Armendariaz bragged in 2010, the raid was intended to publicly crucify some people to instill fear in everyone else?”

      • Speaking of True the Vote:

        You Got Served!… True the Vote Slaps Lois Lerner With Lawsuit After Prolonged Harassment by IRS, OSHA and the ATF

        … Catherine Engelbrecht posted this on the True the Vote website today:


        I wanted to alert you to breaking news about True the Vote and our ongoing fight with the IRS. We’ve been harassed and jumped through hoops for three years – and now the nation knows our story.
        Today, we took action.

        True the Vote’s attorneys filed a lawsuit against the IRS in Washington this morning. Our demands are simple: give TTV an answer to our tax-exempt application, and tell us who knew we were being targeted.

        We have proven over the years that citizen engagement can change the way we operate our elections for the better. Today, we’re taking our culture of accountability straight to the heart of Washington.

        This is going to be a major fight – but the truth will come out in court.
        We could not have picked a bigger fight – please let me know that you stand with us.

        Catherine Engelbrecht …”

        I hope they have a better chance of finding the truth than anybody has (so far) with finding the truth, via court, about Barry’s true origins.

  5. looking at the IRS and holder’s dept of crime , what could possibly go wrong with this?
    Ozero nominates former campaign political director to handle federal hiring standards 🙄

    • “… We’re apparently supposed to feel better about everything because the DOJ “followed all laws and policies” and secured their warrant from a judge. That would be the same warrant that designated journalist James Rosen as a potential “criminal co-conspirator” in order to keep it secret. Details about the breadth of the investigation continue to emerge. Via The New Yorker’s Ryan Lizza, another eye-opening scoop:

      The Obama Administration fought to keep a search warrant for James Rosen’s private e-mail account secret, arguing to a federal judge that the government might need to monitor the account for a lengthy period of time…Ronald C. Machen, Jr., the U.S. Attorney who is prosecuting Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a former State Department adviser who allegedly leaked classified information to Rosen, insisted that the reporter should not be notified of the search and seizure of his e-mails, even after a lengthy delay…He argued that disclosure of the search warrant would preclude the government from monitoring the account, should such a step become necessary in the investigation. Machen added that “some investigations are continued for many years because, while the evidence is not yet sufficient to bring charges, it is sufficient to have identified criminal subjects and/or criminal activity serious enough to justify continuation of the investigation.” The new details indicate that the government wanted the option to search Rosen’s e-mails repeatedly if the F.B.I. found further evidence implicating the reporter in what prosecutors argued was a conspiracy to commit espionage…In addition to Rosen’s correspondence with Kim, the government wanted to know about Rosen’s contacts with other government officials, including “records or information relating to the Author’s communication with any other source or potential source of the information disclosed in the Article.” …

      In other words, they wanted to troll Rosen’s contacts and news-gathering methods indefinitely. And the Attorney General of the United States didn’t just sign off of it. He personally “vetted” it. …

      The Justice Department’s admission locks another piece into that puzzle. To review: Holder swore an oath at the beginning of a hearing at which he said he’d *never* been a part of, or even heard of, any *potential* prosecution of a journalist. Now his own department has confirmed that he personally reviewed and approved a warrant that explicitly treated a reporter as a criminal co-conspirator. …”

      They targeted the Tea Party. They targeted Sheriff Arpaio. They targeted FOX News. All “enemies” of Obama that he joked about using the power of government to “punish” for “revenge”. Liars, perjurers, forgers. Notice that in the affidavit for a WARRANT (not a subpoena) of Rosen’s email and phone records, these tools STRETCHED the definition of what constitutes an exception to obtaining a warrant for a reporter’s records–that being if the person is engaged in a CRIME. So they KNOWINGLY violated the Constitution by pretending to believe that Rosen was a potential criminal co-conspirator because he used flattery and persuasion to get news tips from that Kim guy. If THAT makes someone a criminal co-conspirator, then Obama is complicit in EVERY potential crime committed by his obots in his name or in the name of furthering his policies. Who is more like Svengali than Barry? Certainly not Rosen! They got a WARRANT because they could keep it secret and troll through FOX NEWS records of communications at will, because with a subpoena, they’re SUPPOSED to notify the news organization. Well, they didn’t WANT to notify FOX NEWS, because what they REALLY WANTED was ANY EXCUSE for an OPPORTUNITY to troll his records “legally”. Holder seems to me to have perjured himself. How else can you interpret his statement under oath that he NEVER was involved in or even HEARD of a possible prosecution of a journalist? You don’t name a person as a potential co-conspirator in order to get a warrant without actually planning a prosecution. Why, that would be DEVIOUS and an ABUSE OF POWER. The fact that they wanted it to remain secret and OPEN-ENDED (which seems ILLEGAL, TOO) proves their real purpose: To use the apparatus of government, by hook or by crook, to get power, keep power, smash “enemies” (defined as anyone who opposes their plans), BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

      Will the lamestream FINALLY see that their Emperor has NO CLOTHES?

  6. ANN just got a Race Horse named after her # 4…& .. Just
    “Stay Awake” as we hear Shoes drop~ping from the HEAVENS!!

  7. I actually went on Pravda R.U. to read this story.

    seriously? why do FBI agents need to train how to drop onto a ship from a helicopter? c’mon.

  8. yep…. lots to read…. yep

    • Remember that the Left is a minority in this country but holds power because it scares enough conservative people into inaction for Democrats to believe they can do as they please and suffer no tangible consequences for terrorizing Americans with Alinsky tactics. This is very much like any apartheid government…and the Regime’s survival depends on its opponents remaining divided, uneducated, and too terrified to stand up to the Regime.

      If you are currently afraid of the IRS, Homeland Security, the EPA, or the Justice Department then today’s an excellent day to start conquering your fears and diverting the internal energy your body channels toward fear into a more positive effort.” From this story at hillbuzz:

      Glad he’s back. He makes an excellent point. They DEPEND upon us being afraid and terrorized. JUST LIKE THE JIHADISTS DO. That’s what they have in common with the Islamists. Maybe that’s why they defend them: kindred spirits. The thing is, neither of them understand the AMERICAN SPIRIT. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. They ain’t seen nothing yet.

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        So. Very. True. Haven’t we all basically been saying this for awhile (not to discredit the writer)? There are those who are sighted and those who are blind. Those who are blind can’t picture diverse scenarios. They are blind. Those with sight, KNOW what’s going on. It’s not as if we can draw 50 different conclusions.

        • Their problem is a lack of imagination. They simply CANNOT get into the heads of people who think differently than they do. They cannot imagine our point of view. They are TRAINED NOT TO. Obots don’t engage. They don’t argue a point (they would never cede one, anyway). They are supposed to be mind-numbed obots who do NOT think. Just like the cult followers of Jim Jones, Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler.

  9. Just have a thought…heard the regime sending out the feeler that muschelle (as well as stepford kids) may be heading out on an extended vacation. She and kids may be taking off before another false flag explosion (so to speak) takes place to give msnbc lots of diversion from WH scandals snowballing. Would have to be pretty big to divert, huh? The sledgehammer effect is a pattern- sorry I read the tea leaves wish I could do the see no evil, hear no evil thing but… thanks for a chance to say this. Just think the announcement of an extended vacation means more than ho-hum.

    • Good thought. Martha’s Vineyard must be feeling pretty safe, although their summer will be ruined as the SS shuts down everything to clear the way for Mooch Antoinette and offspring.

      • wonder what is going on in the White House that they have to get out for a while.

        how come they never go to that mansion in Chicago? did they claim mortgage interest and taxes paid on their 2012 1040 filing?

        • How come we never hear about Granny Robinson? How come she is so protected by the media? Is she held hostage? She knows the truth about a whole bunch of stuff?

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        I guess the east coast is safe.

        • Sure. Would have to be. Since they “target” conservatives, where do you think the “targets” are?

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      Hi truthwitness. I believe we’ve all become tea leaf readers. And with the Bible as a guide, as with any jigsaw puzzle, the closer you get to the end, the easier it is to figure out where the pieces go.

      Having been one who quotes the Bible….all I will say is people ask why America, the greatest nation since the Holy Roman Empire isn’t mentioned in the Bible. I disagree. We are mentioned. Quite prominently. Eyes to see. Ears to hear. Have a blessed day.

  10. what is going on? are they for real?

    this is a blatant travesty and McCain gives himself away more and more each day. what a farce.

    • Papoose | May 25, 2013 at 1:02 pm | Reply
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    • “… Sens. Lindsey Graham and John McCain signaled support Friday for Victoria Nuland’s nomination to be the next assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, a pick that could come under some scrutiny because of her role in editing talking points on last year’s attack in Benghazi.

      “Ambassador Victoria Nuland has a long and distinguished record of service to our nation in both Republican and Democrat administrations,” the Republicans said in a joint statement. “She is knowledgeable and well-versed on the major foreign policy issues as well as respected by foreign policy experts in both parties. We look forward to her upcoming confirmation hearings in the United States Senate.”…”

      I read somewhere that Nuland is a veteran of administrations from BOTH parties, so I guess she has some friends among the RINOs who actually pity her or, like with the lower level folks in Hitler’s goon squads, she gets a pass because she was just following orders. I wonder: Did they similarly feel sympathy for Susan Rice?

      When I heard they’re planning to ship her overseas, I wondered if it was to get her out of the country and beyond the reach of questioners. WTF is up with the RINOs praising her?

      Maybe, however, they’re being IRONIC when they say they look forward to her confirmation hearings! Won’t she have to answer questions truthfully? Are they luring her in? I think Rice withdrew for that very reason–she couldn’t stand up to scrutiny UNDER OATH. It might be a symbolic snark to get Barry to withdraw her nomination, considering what she MIGHT BE ASKED.

      • Miri, I sadly fear that you are being overly optimistic to think this is a trap of some kind. This is John McCain and Lindsey Graham you are talking about. I suspect they like her just fine.

  11. Sometimes I think we’re living in a comic book. KAPOW! ZAP!

    • I doubt that they have authority to regulate such weapons, anyway. If they’re manufactured in a state and used within a state, the Feds have NO constitutional authority. States control “commerce” that happens within their borders. Only INTERSTATE commerce is regulated by the Feds.

    • I had saved that link in case I wanted to make a post about it.

      State Department orders firm to remove 3D-printed guns web blueprints

      Defense Distributed tweeted on Thursday that ‘Liberator’ project had ‘gone dark’ at the request of government officials

      The US government has blocked a Texas-based company from distributing details online of how to make a plastic gun using a 3-D printer.

      The ban, by the State Department citing international arms control law, comes just days after the world’s first such gun was successfully fired.

      Defense Distributed, the company that made the prototype, stated on Twitter that its project had “gone dark” at the instigation of the government.

      The company is run by Cody Wilson, a 25-year-old University of Texas law student who has said the idea for freely distributing details about how to produce the guns online was inspired by 19th century anarchist writing. Wilson argues everyone should have access to guns. [Many have said that the ability for groups within oppressive regimes to make their own weapons will lead to more freedom from tyranny. The same arguments made by our Founders when they wrote the Second Amendment. Had citizens in Woolwich this week had a 3-D gun, that UK soldier probably would still be alive.]

      A State Department spokesman said: “Although we do not comment on whether we have individual ongoing compliance matters, we can confirm that the department has been in communication with the company.”

      The action came too late to prevent widespread distribution of the files: Defense Distributed told Forbes that the files have already been downloaded more than 100,000 times in the two days since they were uploaded. The largest number of downloads initially were to addresses in Spain, followed by the US, Brazil, Germany and the UK. …”

      My guess is that they didn’t have a legal leg to stand on to do this to a US firm. So they punted. Of course, Chuckie Schumer wants to pass a law to CONTROL these guns, too.

  12. Dhimmitude

    The word “Dhimmitude” is found in the new health care bill; so what does it mean?

    Thought this was interesting and worth passing on.

    Obama used it in the health care bill. Now isn’t this interesting? It is also included in the health care law.

    Dhimmitude — I had never heard the word until now. Type it into Google and start reading. Pretty interesting. It’s on page 107 of the healthcare bill. I looked this up on Google and yep, it exists.
    It is a REAL word.

    Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad (Holy War). Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.

    ObamaCare allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States . Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be “gambling”, “risk-taking”, and “usury” and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based of this.

    How convenient. So I, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivable, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health insurance needs paid for by the de facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. This is Dhimmitude.

    I recommend sending this on to your contacts.

    American citizens need to know about it — Health Insurance Exemptions Apr 13, 2010 … Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-muslim populations… The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia …

    Keep this going. Every non-Muslim in the United States of America needs to know about it. Dhimmitude — Health Insurance Exemptions ••• Are various religious groups exempt from requirements to obtain health insurance?
    Health Insurance Exemptions Claim: Muslims are specifically exempted from legislative requirements to purchase health insurance. Examples:……the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be “gambling”,……make exceptions for insurance which is required by law (such as automobile insurance), and some Muslim groups do not have objections to medical… Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:43:29 GMT

    • My answer to that is that if any person exercises a religious exemption to avoid the “tax” for Obamacare, then it should follow that the person is therefore ALSO exempting himself from the BENEFITS of Obamacare (IF ANY).

    • “On Monday, J. Russell George, the Treasury Department’s Inspector General, and IRS Acting Commissioner Danny Werfel are expected to testify before a House Appropriations subcommittee on the progress the IRS is making in addressing the controversial practices that came to light last month. Representatives of conservative organizations that were targeted by the IRS are scheduled to appear Tuesday before the House Ways and Means committee.

      On Thursday, the House Oversight Committee, which Issa chairs, has a hearing scheduled for questioning about excessive spending at IRS conferences. The hearing comes nearly a week after the release of a video showing IRS officials line dancing to the “Cupid Shuffle” at a 2010 agency conference in California.”

      So we need to watch for those hearings on CSPAN and try to give a little early reporting.

      • Notice the actions are called “controversial practices” and not ‘crimes’.?

        • Good catch!

          • Yep, just as even blogs supporting George Zimmerman and working overtime to prove his innocence and expose Trayvon, insist on referring to Trayvon as the ‘victim’ . Uh, he is not a victim until GZ is proven guilty. BabyTray is an ‘alleged victim’. Drives me crazy people undermine their own narrative and mission with this.

            • Have you seen the photos of Trayvon’s gun and him re-inhaling marijuana smoke? Of course, the judge doesn’t want to allow any of this about the “victim’s” character into the record. It’s a travesty of justice that this man is being persecuted this way, in this country, all for politics. I do have faith in the common sense of most American juries. Sooner or later, he’ll be acquitted. The problem is that this will be after YEARS of persecution.

              • I think GZ will be found guilty to please the feral blacks. But as the feral elites know he is innocent and know GZ knows he is innocent and was sacrificed for the cause (whatever that is) he will not do prison time but put into witness protection and that will be the end of the story.

                • Speaking of feral …


                  Black Youth Mob Kicks Syracuse [WHITE] Man to Death in Latest “Knock Out” Game Murder

                  Michael Daniels was waiting at a bus stop in Syracuse when he was attacked. The youths kicked his eye out of its socket.
                  Daniels died the next day. …

                  One week after the fatal attack, the Syracuse Post-Standard reported some of the details: A 51-year-old ex-con was waiting at a bus stop, an unopened can of beer and the change from a $10 bill in his hand.

                  One person hit Michael Daniels, dropping him to his knees. They ran away, but seeing him helpless, the group returned. The police won’t say, but it could have been as many as five people. Or more.

                  That is when it got nasty: They punched and kicked him until one of his eyeballs came out of its socket. They laughed at that. He died the next day. There was no robbery. …”

                  The authorities there call it: “random” and a “teenage” thing. Not a hate crime. And they laughed.

          • One good thing about Barry in the WH is the thugs and racists and feral blacks have come out in the light to do their deeds. For quite awhile all we have heard is the phrase, “knockout game”. Ha, now the truth comes out it really is called “polar bear hunting”. This sheeet has been happening and under the radar, but rampant, for YEARS. Forty years ago by little brother was beat to a pulp in the stairwell of a department store by a bunch of bigger blacks. The store did nothing, not even called his parents but let him go back home on a city bus (how we traveled around Detroit back then”. My mother who had been a part of civil rights marches and blaming the riots on ALL Detroiters not just Blacks, did not even call the police to report. If the thugs had been white boys from our neighborhood she would have, that I am pretty confident of. But to report these older teens would have hurt the progress the healing in the city blah, blah, blah.

  13. … from Clarice Feldman at … AT 6/2/13 … on… Baby Tray’

    And if that doesn’t turn you off lawyers for good, there’s the AP report out of Florida where in the baseless case against George Zimmerman, a former prosecutor,Wesley White, revealed to the court that a court employee, Ben Kruidbos, had retrieved photos and deleted text messages from Trayvon Martin’s cellphone and that prosecutors did not properly turn over this evidence to the defense.

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