New Questions about the Tsarnaev Investigation (Open Thread)

© Miri WTPOTUS April 25, 2013

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Another day, another set of questions about the many discrepancies in this evolving story about the Boston Marathon Islamist terrorist attack.  Here are just a few:

After authorities claimed that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev engaged in a shootout with police from his hiding place in a boat, they now say that no weapons were foundDzhokhar was unarmed, even though early news reports claimed he had “several weapons.”

Quite obviously, the fact that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was unarmed puts to rest any prior claim that he tried to shoot himself in the mouth to commit suicide.

After federal authorities testified that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was not on any watch lists, now they say he was on at least two watch lists, if not three.  Russian authorities had reported Tamerlan Tsarnaev to US intelligence agencies (both the FBI and the CIA) at least twice in 2011 (March and November, if not also in September). He was placed into the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment (TIDE), a “highly classified central database of people it views as potential terrorists.” He was also placed on the Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB), “maintained by the Homeland Security Department’s Customs and Border Protection bureau which is used to screen people crossing U.S. land borders and entering at airports or by sea.”  Janet Napolitano testified that the system “pinged” when Tamerlan Tsarnaev left for seven months to visit a hotbed of Islamic terrorism in Dagestan because he was in the TECS “platform”; but the system did not ping when he returned, because by then (we’re told) the “intelligence” agencies  had concluded that he was no threat, even though the Russians “pushed” in a “warning letter” to have him listed as a potential terrorist because of his increasing radicalization and the fact that he used different dates of birth and aliases.

After news reports stated that the Tsarnaevs had a regular arsenal of weapons (an M4 carbine, two handguns, and a BB gun) now we’re told that there was “a single firearm” recovered at the scene of the shootout.  This weapon was a 9mm handgun, not an M4 “assault rifle”.

Numerous stories said that the parents of the suspects would come to the USA as early as today; now we hear that the father will come but the mother will stay in Russia, perhaps because as soon as she sets foot on US soil, she’ll be arrested:

She faces three felony charges for alleged shoplifting and property damage in Massachusetts in 2012, according to Natick District Court. She jumped bail, and there has been an arrest warrant for her since October, the court’s clerk magistrate Brian Kearney said.

Here are a few questions I have:

Right before the bomb exploded, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was talking on a cell phone.  Given that the Tsarnaev family are reported to have taken advantage of multiple social welfare programs over the years, one wonders whether both brothers had Obamaphones.  Enquiring minds want to know what taxpayer monies potentially funded these Islamic terrorist attacks against us.

Did either or both of the Obamas visit the Saudi national “student” in the hospital, either before or after Secretary of State Kerry had a closed-door meeting with the Saudi ambassador and Barack Obama had a unexpected encounter with Saudi bigwigs in the WH?

Exactly WHO is the Abdul Rahman Al-Harbi who visited the White House multiple times over the Obama presidency?

Is he or is he not the Saudi national “student” of the same name who was at the scene of the Boston Marathon bombing and was allegedly injured and was originally reported to be a “person of interest” in the terrorist attack?

Who were the other Saudi nationals who were wounded in the explosion, seen with Al-Harbi, and were ANY of these men on terror watch lists? How did any of them get into the country?  Were they fast-tracked, unvetted, as VIPs?  Are any of them currently “armed and dangerous?”

What is the government going to do about the estimated 15,000 Muslims who came to the US on “student visas” but never showed up at school?

Is the reason our “intelligence” agencies do not adequately follow or investigate Muslims because they are intimidated from above by a president and his administration?  Is it political correctness run amok, as suggested by the fact that this administration labeled the Fort Hood Islamic terrorist attack “workplace violence“?

Update 04/25/13 12:37 p.m.:  I forgot this one:  Who brought in the magistrate and the U.S. Attorney to STOP the FBI interrogation of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, and why?  He was cooperating, but “immediately” clammed up upon being read his Miranda rights.  The FBI was not amused:

Two officials with knowledge of the FBI briefing on Capitol Hill said the FBI was against stopping the investigators’ questioning and was stunned that the judge, Justice Department prosecutors and public defenders showed up, feeling valuable intelligence may have been sacrificed as a result. [emphasis added]


404 responses to “New Questions about the Tsarnaev Investigation (Open Thread)

    • WHY? What did they expect in return?

      Don’t the Obamas have to leave it all behind when they exit, stage LEFT, in 2016? Seems I recall the ill-bred Clintons taking some with them, no matter the rules.

    • Zenway, are they playing mind games with us? Look at where the tree is in relation to the mailbox in the last photo. In other photos, there’s a tree in front of the Forum restaurant, just adjacent to the mailbox, and there’s another tree in front of the business to the left. Dark granite squares of pavement surround the trees. These photos seem cleverly cropped. It appears to me that by the time the guys in white suits appeared, they had removed the tree in front of the Forum. It’s still standing in some photos, but was it damaged so badly that it was removed OR was it removed as evidence for analysis?

    • I have a question…do these actors watch the news? Do these people realize that they are/possibly are part of a scam to the American People? How does their conscience deal with this? Is the money big enough that they don’t care. Having a hard time wrapping my mind around this.

      • Are they converts to Islam? Sort o/t. but you remember when the alert went out for man in gray hoodie. I seem to remember something about??? Well, the guy helping and then lounging casually with the amputee has what on? gray hoodie. If for some bizarro reason the amputee was a fake-out, would the hoodie-man need to be found cuz he might just do some talking? Of course, I am not buying the fake stuff, but just an imagining as reading all the false flag stuff floating around.

        • That’s the image, as a reminder. He does wear a gray hoodie. Who is he, btw? Has anyone ever identified this guy? Wearing those sun glasses. Has that little beard. This is the odd photo that shows him just lounging there, after he was doing other things behind the black lady, who had the amputee’s legs around her neck. This photo was DEFINITELY photoshopped because the lady lying behind hoodie-man had her knee all chewed up–the newspapers photoshopped the rescuer’s shoe over her knee, to hide the gore. So did they photoshop hoodie-man into the scene altogether, or was he still there? There are other photos of the same scene, sans hoodie-man, although the woman sitting with her knees up remains in about the same position.×416.jpg Notice that the downed woman’s purse changes, too. In one photo, the front is white; in the next, it’s all black.

          An editorial I read today ridiculed the “conspiracy theorists” concerned about both the Sandy Hook incident AND the Boston incident, in relation to the issue of the state of MO wanting to keep private information private from the feds. Some MO legislators are proposing bills to prevent MO law enforcement from cooperating with any gun laws passed by the feds. It’s interesting that they’re doing to these “conspiracy theorists” exactly what they did to “birthers”. When they do this, it means they’re getting concerned about losing control of the narrative and being afraid that people may believe things they don’t want anyone to believe.

          One thing’s for sure: We’re NOT getting the whole story or the whole truth. There WAS another car. A green Accord. There were, therefore, two drivers. If, as the anonymous carjack victim says, the brothers were in his SUV with him, then who drove the other car to the scene of the shootout? This would be the car containing the backpacks with the bombs used in the shootout with cops. Was he the naked man? What car was he driving when he was apprehended?

        • Is it possible these two brothers were innocent (of this situation) and running away because they knew they were being framed? Maybe they had a small part but the people hiring them “turned on them” to use them for the perps? Maybe the guy in the hospital…was involved? So many of the pictures seem to be photoshopped like we have all noticed. Maybe it is puposeful to be misleading to be blamed on mis/dis information. When creating chaos and when people are injured they may not pay attention to too many details if they are injured or in shock etc. I agree didn’t seem like many injured.
          This was definitely a test and the people of Watetown were the guinea pigs.

          • Watch that one, keeping your eye on the people interviewed by CNN. Hint: what appears to be the same woman is interviewed as an eye witness to the bombing and then, again, as an eye witness to the shootout! What are the freaking odds? It sure looks like the same woman to me. Same clothes even. Unless this is a cleverly edited video. The world is full of jokers (and that’s the “terrible truth”).

            • This incident, too, might have been solved by bystanders who tackled and detained the guy who was acting suspiciously. So what’s the story? Another “drill” or “entrapment” gone awry, thus the bomb sniffing dogs during the “drill”? Did someone, this time, withhold the money but supply the bomb? Somebody with inside information who could pull the switcheroo and say, after being tackled: I thought there would be two bombs; did anybody die?

      • Jury still out, imho. That story talks about the creation of a fake media presence. It’s synchronicity because I was pondering THAT myself, just last night. I can understand creating the fake events to TRAIN first responders. I cannot fathom the purpose of having “witnesses” to talk to bogus reporters. Is it only to train the first responders on how to roust the media from the scene? It makes no sense to write scripts for fake witnesses to give to fake reporters.

      • Just think, the government can push their agenda, and we the people pay people to do it through our good, kind, hearts, and our pocketbooks. To date, in one donation fund called, One Fund Boston, people, corporations, etc. have donated $26,811,840! That is in one fund alone! I saw Kenneth Feinberg being interviewed on ‘Morning Joe’, and he will be in charge of distributing the funds. That may explain why on 4/19, the Huffington Post announced that the bombing claimed 3 lives, and injured 176. I think I heard a few days ago that there were over 200 injured. When looking at all the pictures that have been posted, did you see over 200 people injured?

        • Here is a link to all the funds that you can donate to, oh, and we can order really nice t-shirst as well, with the proceeds going to the victims!

        • I truly did NOT see that many people injured. If they count every injury, like damaged hearing or PTSD, then it might reach that high. Reminds me of the Pigford situation, or like when there’s a bus accident in a city and bystanders JUMP ON THE BUS so they can make a claim for a “settlement”. I’m sorry, but the world is full of scammers. I did read a conveniently timed article about how health insurance mostly only pays for standard prosthetics, not the cutting edge ones that can cost over a hundred grand. Already politicians are preparing to lean on insurance companies to give these victims the best of the best. They said that prosthetics have to be replaced regularly, as they wear out, and also something about the “socket” needing replacement, too, which I seriously would prefer not to know about–not at that level of detail, please. The photos are bad enough.

          • I just heard on FOX that there were over 260 injured! Look at those pictures again! Did you see over 260 people at the scene of the bombings? Sounds like all the ‘players’ are gonna get a nice chunk of money. I wonder if thru the Freedom of Information Act, someone could get a list of the pay-0ut schedule. Let’s compare it to the number treated at local hospitals.

          • Sandy Hook just released some of the funds from their tragedy. One fund alone has $11 million. There are numerous other funds for the individuals. So, they released $4 million to 40 families. Who are those 40 families? How may were killed again? First responders are also receiving monies! What do they do with all the exta monies????

          • Catastrophies are big business. Look how much was raised and what has been paid out. Newtown Charities Raise $20.4 Million, Reveal Plans For Cash
            April 16, 2013|By DAVE ALTIMARI,, The Hartford Courant
            More than 40 charitable groups, many formed following the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, have collected nearly $20.4 million since the Dec. 14 shooting, with about 15 percent of the money being distributed, the attorney general’s office said Tuesday.

        • This is part of the “not letting a crisis go to waste” part…bringing in the money. Corporations get write-offs. I would rather give money to churches who were helping or direct hands on type stuff. I don’t even give to Red Cross anymore…especially since they were only giving out coffee and donuts with Super STorm Sandy.


      They disappeared the link to the 2004 2011 story, so I tried to resurrect it. Can’t access pages 2 and 3, though. Note that this story was published in early May, 2011, so I assume the drills took place IN 2011, and are not planned for this year, as some sites seem to imply. Critical portions of the story:

      Volunteers and professional actors will play the roles of victims, who will be rescued, diagnosed, decontaminated and treated over the 10-day period. A “virtual news network” will be created that will broadcast on the exercises every hour on the hour.

      But the exercises will not be too realistic, authorities say. No weapons or agents will be released and, to minimize the risk of public panic or real-life accidents, emergency responders will not be speeding with lights and sirens blaring to the scenes of attack.”

      However, this story:

      Says this:

      “… Dr. Paul Biddinger was at a medical station near the Boston Marathon’s “Heartbreak Hill” on April 15 when his pager went off, notifying him of the bombs at the finish line, five miles away.

      Biddinger, who directs emergency operations at Massachusetts General Hospital, was standing next to someone from Boston Emergency Medical Services and someone from the state health department as they got similar calls.

      They’d drilled for this moment, using actors pretending to be patients, paint bullets and controlled explosions. Federal funding goes to Massachusetts hospitals and emergency teams to train medical personnel to respond to disasters such as the Boston Marathon bombing. …”

      Could it be that the actors still believe this is a drill being run?

    • This link is a keeper. There’s live photos of the original blast and the placement of articles in its aftermath. good find. very interesting.

    • I don’t remember ever reading that either of the Tsarnaevs stayed around to watch. Today, I read an editorial that claimed that the FBI looked through the driver’s license photos in Massachusetts to try to identify these brothers. That’s a new one on me and I don’t know if the editorial writer made this up or what. It was in relation to the state of MO trying to keep driver’s license information out of the hands of the feds. (btw, the MO governor has been subpoenaed by the citizen who filed a lawsuit over his concealed carry info being scanned and sent to the feds.) There’s a big difference between letting the FBI look at driver’s license photos (cops do it all the time) and providing the feds and a third party vendor with scanned copies of every driver’s birth certificate, marriage certificates, and concealed carry permit information. In any case, there’s so much disinformation out there and with everybody using all these incidents for political reasons, it’s nearly impossible to determine the truth.


        Very interesting eye witness account from a woman who SAW Tamerlan in the middle of the street, saw him run over by a “police SUV”, and THEN he was shot multiple times by at least 2 cops, but soon more cops converged on the scene. She saw the ambulance come. She said that in her opinion, he was likely dead when they loaded him into the ambulance. SO …

        Who ran over Tamerlan? It would make more sense that it was NOT his brother because it makes NO SENSE for Dzhokhar to drive TOWARDS the cops to escape instead of away from the cops. In addition, we know there were TWO CARS. This story says so:

        “In the ensuing firefight, the suspects hurled a pressure-cooker bomb similar to the two that went off near the marathon finish line, said Chief Edward Deveau. They also tossed four homemade grenade-like devices, Deveau said, with two of them exploding.

        The two men were in separate cars when they were confronted, he said — apparently one of their own and another that they had carjacked.”

        Then the SAME STORY says,

        “The carjacking victim was released unharmed at a gas station in Cambridge and the accused bombers sped in his car toward Watertown. A police chase ensued and they tossed explosive devices out the window, officials said.”


        CNN shot that video of the naked man being arrested in Watertown in relation to the bombing. Jake Tapper authenticates it in this video, apparently. SO, who was this naked guy and where is he now? Was HE driving the green Accord?

    • all we’ll need are a few decks of used cards, some toothpicks and paper paste. voila! his library and legacy.

      the joker’s wild.

    • September 8, 2010

      Jack Cashill:

      “Was Obama’s Hendrix Reference Freudian?”

      “The headline story on my Yahoo News reads, “Obama channels Hendrix on critics: ‘They talk about me like a dog.'”

      Still, this reference may be more than whimsical. For those who insist on a celebrity father for Obama, Hendrix makes a much better candidate than Malcolm X. Two days older than Obama’s mom, Ann Dunham, Hendrix was not at all abashed about dating white women at his high school, also in Seattle where Ann Lived. Indeed, Hendrix was allegedly thrown out of high school for holding a white girl’s hand.

      Ann might well have fallen for the tall, thin musician. She never dated “the crew-cut white boys,” said friend Susan Blake Botkin. She did not meet many of those at the jazz clubs and coffee houses she frequented in Seattle.

      I can envision the mirthless Huffington headline now, “Right wing hack job says Hendrix Obama’s father!” The weird thing is that the imagined tale of Ann and Jimi is only slightly less credible than the tale as told of Ann and Barack Obama Sr. in Dreams and ever since.”

      • Would his military service have been a “plus” for him, in SAD’s book? I think not. Jimi was in the military when Barry was born, if he was born in August ’61. Jimi was no commie. He was part white himself. ALTHOUGH … Jimi’s Cherokee ancestry might have inspired SAD to make a similar claim about herself and HER son.

  1. former Secretary of Labor


    • omigosh. we really do need to identify this woman. screen out or screen in.

      how does one get selected to sit beside a POTUS in public? do you need clearance? unreal.

    • It’s true. They do look alike. Who the heck is she? Wouldn’t the media mention who sat next to him at the game?

      He HAS a connection to Syracuse, btw. Mom lived there with her mumsy and popsy during the war.

    • Martha DONATED too Obama, she helped get him elected, I posted that link way back when Martha first appeared. I’m sorry, I refuse too buy into Martha’s CRAP! Could it just be possible Martha is once again using her “look that away”. THINK! Gun control, sequester, Immigration, Boston, Texas. Another deflection by Martha, and what a perfect time for it wouldn’t you say? let’s see what else happened at that same game Martha could be trying too deflect from…

      Obama Booed at Elite 8 Game… After Golf Outing

      Sunday, March 31, 2013

      by John Pudner 30 Mar 2013

      WASHINGTON, D.C. — Nearly half of the crowd at Saturday’s Elite 8 game between Syracuse and Marquette at the Verizon Center in Washington, D.C. booed President Barack Obama when he was shown on the big screen with just over ten minutes to play in the first half. After the boos erupted, a contingency of Obama supporters countered with cheers.

      Obama also golfed on Saturday for the first time since the sequester cuts went into effect at the beginning of March and then took some of his foursome–and his Secret Service detail–to watch Syracuse oust Marquette and secure a trip to the Final Four.

      One would have expected a friendlier crowd for the President, but there are still several possible explanations for the boos. Obama and his White House team had supported Georgetown (Syracuse’s rival) in the past, and the President had forecast Indiana (who was eliminated by Syracuse) to win the East Regional and go on to win the national title, for example. Or, perhaps they booed because POTUS had gone to the game with Secret Service agents while the White House remains closed to tours.

      The Obama administration canceled the popular White House tours citing Secret Service costs. Throughout the week, Obama has been scrutinized because of Secret Service expenditures for the First Daughters’ vacations to the Bahamas and Sun Valley, Idaho.

      UPDATE: Twitterers confirm Breitbart News’s report that President Obama was booed at the Marquette vs. Syracuse game (time stamps on tweets are Eastern Daylight Time):

      And this – Where Obama was caught in basic a love session with his butt buddy Reggie Love at the game?

      Caption Obama and Reggie at the Marquette-Syracuse Game Today

      Saturday, March 30, 2013

      • They think we’re stupid, Leza. They really do. It’s all disinformation to try to make others NOT pay any attention to the TRUTHFUL things we report. She’s a HUGE LIBERAL. She lives in a fancy house out there in liberal land. It’s all out there, for those who care to not be duped by her.

      • Butt!!!! Well, it was all in good fun–basketball rivalry. They’re booing him wherever he goes these days. What a crock of spin.

      • yes and iirc, we found that she also had close relatives associated with the DNC

  2. Barry SITS….. “At least ONE …. other … FRIEND??????

    weird…that i can’t copy ANY of the photos??? so weird!

  3. Is it over soon….?? please wake me up…. I’ll be resting.
    Under our noses …. Or does he know the fish is ready to be ….

    • And no one will believe….

      Where are the rest of the pics? Why wasn’t the press asking who the special guest with the President of the United States was?
      After all, inquiring minds need to know.

      • seriously !

      • I am curious???? 😯

        • Nancy Cantor, the chancellor of Syracuse university, whose team was playing. She’s BUSTED. Trowbridge, I mean. YET AGAIN, unless she has proof that Ms. Cantor is Barry’s mom and “Jo Ann Newman”. See Cantor’s photo at this comment:

          Sheesh. I’m angry at Trowbridge for once again sending people down a blind alley.

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            Never bit off on it, but didn’t comment as I didn’t want to insult the OP.

            Can we now safely eliminate Trowbridge as an even **potentially* credible source?! 🙂

          • good job, Miri.
            screen out!

          • I eliminated her almost immediately upon her arriving upon the scene. Well, immediately as I looked into who SHE is.

            Never dissing the OP. Glad to hear about this stuff so we can collectively shoot it down! 🙂 I get SO FREAKING ANGRY at these people who fool everyone, who think it’s a damned GAME when it is deadly serious. Our country is at dire risk and all they can do is make fun, ridicule, mislead, snark, play games. I should add: COLLECT MONEY.

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            Thanks again, Miri for doing the research for us. Although I found the daddy theory she posits plausible the whole JoAnne story was without **any** basis in fact. Pamela Geller, who I have enormous respect for, also floated the theory, but then inexplicably recanted it.

            I would never diss any poster here. I have too much respect for everyone, regardless of which other sources they choose to cite. This is still America (….I think) and so we all have our First Amendment right to read whatever we want. Personally, I have whittled the blogs I consider to be consistently credible to ….very few. As I’ve shared before, I have seen a surprising amount of previously credible bloggers “go to the dark side” under the influence of others. It’s a pity, really. Without posting scripture, in these dark days, it’s imperative to put on the full armor of God. Each of us has our God given discernment to assist us in “knowing” what is:
            a) the absolute truth b) possible truth c) outright bull!

            The staff at WTPOTUS is kind enough to allow us to cite items that we believe may be germane to any given situation. With so much occurring one never knows what will be pertinent. And it’s simply amazing how many “situations” there have been under this administration, isn’t it? Perhaps the pr es i dent, rather than some erstwhile skeevy reality show character should be called “The Situation”. He seems to have the same level of intelligence and swagger. Not being able to verify his school records, we can’t determine his academic performance, only his pre es i dent ial performance which I need not post is abysmal. Then again, without the filter of political correctness which I refuse to use and without a scintilla of racism, I write the FACT that minorities are given a pass insofar as college admission boards are concerned. So, it’s quite possible he got in under quota rules a.k.a affirmative action with piss poor stoner grades from Occ i den tal.

            Important Note to Holder: ILLEGALS ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANY “CIVIL” RIGHTS, MORON!) Ba Ma, Holder and Naps, oh my (not to mention: Clinton, Brennan, Schumer, Rubio, McCain, Frank, Wasserman-Schultz and the list goes on and on! Too many to properly list. We are surrounded. Well, not really. We really do outnumber them, but also as written before, our cowardice in taking this shiite like sheep…. like Jews under Hitler is shocking.

            Have a peaceful day, peeps.

            • TY RW. AGAIN! btw, all posters are more than welcome to float any ideas or memes going around. People bring them here because they know they’ll get a fair hearing and the RESEARCH required to see whether or not they stand or fail on their own. If not, we’ll let you know! My feeling is that just because it’s posted, that doesn’t mean the person believes it. That’s something that we recently found out that others DON’T realize: Just because we EXAMINE an issue, doesn’t mean we believe it (e.g., the Boston massacre was a false flag).

              I, too, would LOVE to see the end to this saga. If the TRUTH were finally known, I’d be among the first to celebrate with everybody else. We’re ALL suffering from Obama fatigue, even Peggy Noonan! “Boo Radley in the shadows.” That WAS inspired!

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            edit: Geller floated/recanted the daddy theory only.

          • Rosemary Woodhouse

            It’s surely appreciated, but no thanks necessary, Miri. Thank all of you for having been a reliable bulwark in a (thus far) 6 year ongoing tempest

            WTPOTUS , is fair minded, weighs all points of view, has never gone wobbly and continues to present the best research on the “interwebs”

  4. So,is her name still JoAnn Newman? I don’t know that I can trust this yet until more research is done and she’s investigated. Just because Martha says it’s so doesn’t make it so. Too much baloney surrounds Obama now.

  5. Administration Wants to Tie in Obamacare to NICS. You were spot on Miri, you said this a few months back. Obama’s Socialist / Marxist administration at work. WTP are in the middle of the shadow of full blown Communism at this point.

    Obamacare to NICS

    Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Kathleen Sebelius has initiated a rulemaking process “to remove unnecessary legal barriers” under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) Privacy Rule that may prevent states from reporting to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), which is the database that houses information on individuals prohibited by law from possessing firearms.

    This is one of the 23 executive actions the President announced in January.

    “Through the public comment process, we will use the data and information provided by states, health providers, patient advocates and others to determine how best to remove unnecessary barriers to NICS reporting while protecting patient privacy,” Sebelius said in an April 19 HHS release.

    The NICS was created by the Brady Act and ensures that guns are not sold to those prohibited by law from buying them, including felons, those convicted of domestic violence, and individuals involuntarily committed to a mental institution or found to be a danger or unable to manage their affairs due to a mental health condition.

    According to a 2012 Government Accountability Office report, 17 states had submitted fewer than 10 records of individuals prohibited for mental health reasons.

    The HHS Office for Civil Rights (OCR) plans to issue an Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (ANPRM) to ask for the public’s input on how HIPAA may prevent some states from reporting to the NICS and ways in which these barriers can be addressed without discouraging individuals from seeking mental health services.

    “In order to protect our children and communities, we must ensure that information on potentially dangerous individuals who are prohibited from possessing firearms is available to the background check system,” said Secretary Sebelius.

    “Through the public comment process, we will use the data and information provided by states, health providers, patient advocates and others to determine how best to remove unnecessary barriers to NICS reporting while protecting patient privacy,” said OCR Director Leon Rodriguez.

    The database that houses non-criminal justice information on individuals prohibited from possessing firearms for reasons related to mental health – called the NICS Index – does not contain medical or mental health records.

    If an individual is prohibited from purchasing a firearm due to specific mental health reasons as set by law, the following information is submitted to the NICS: (1) basic identifying information about the individual such as name, social security number, and date of birth, (2) the name of the state or federal agency that submitted the information, and (3) a notation on which of the ten prohibited categories is applicable to the individual, which allows the individual to appeal and seek to correct incomplete or inaccurate information if needed.

    When federally licensed firearms dealers request a NICS background check for a potential buyer, the only information they get back is that the potential buyer is approved, denied, or additional investigation is needed. The dealer does not receive any information about why an individual is denied and does not ever have access to any records of potential buyers, including health records.

    The ANPRM will be available for review.


    • For sure. This was in the editorial I read this morning, too. Barry’s executive orders on gun control: Ordering ALL departments to share information in order to keep us safe from “gun violence”. There’s so damned much to research, keep track of, and they’re ALWAYS knocking us back on our heels, never letting us catch our breaths. Didn’t Barry issue the gun EOs in January? Yep. His “now is the time” plan: and .

      The second and third times that the SSA was used by the ATF to trick the state of MO into handing over the concealed carry list, under the guise of fighting SS disability fraud, happened right AFTER these executive orders were issued. They’re going to use “any means necessary” TO CREATE that gun registry, by hook or by crook, under the guise of keeping children from being killed. That would, of course, include your MEDICAL RECORDS. Who believes that if they trick MO into illegally handing over the concealed carry list they WON’T just peruse your medical records, AT WILL? MO doesn’t provide information to their system, so they will TRICK them into doing it, if they can’t BLACKMAIL them into doing it by threatening to withhold funds. Sibelius does not have the power to REMOVE LEGAL BARRIERS. If they’re LEGAL, then she can’t just wish them away. Not that this administration doesn’t have a 4-year history of IGNORING laws and the Constitution. This is why they wanted the concealed carry list to compare to the people in MO collecting SS disability for a mental illness situation. If the person has a concealed carry permit, they wanted to pull it. They weren’t planning to refuse them disability on account of the state of MO finding them eligible to carry a weapon! They specifically wanted the person’s identification (name, date of birth, etc.).

  6. BRAVO too Jim Rob @ Free

    Tyranny is a very real threat to Liberty and we are now staring it right in the eye!

    April 27, 2013
    Jim Robinson

    The Democrats scoff when we remind them that the second amendment was intended by the founders for the people to defend against government tyranny.

    “What? Are we tyrannical?” They innocently exclaim.

    And the answer is yes.

    When you elect an admitted Marxist to the presidency who claims the constitution (that he is supposed to uphold) is a flawed document and pledges to “transform America” by importing European spread-the-wealth around Marxism to ensure “economic justice,” that is tyranny!

    When the capitalism-hating Marxist president seizes control of car companies, screws the stockholders, screws the bondholders, screws the dealerships, recapitalizes it with OUR tax dollars from the treasury and then turns it over to HIS political supporters, ie, the unions, that is tyranny!

    When your constitution-loathing Marxist president is dead set on installing HIS socialist healthcare system over the objections of the people and all Republicans in congress and has his henchmen in congress ram it through anyway not letting the congressmen to even read the bill or debate it and not even following the rules of the senate, that is tyranny!

    When your liberty-hating Marxist president threatens that if the congress does not act on his pet Marxist projects then he will bypass them and he declares he can go around the constitution and run the country by executive order, that is tyranny!

    When your Liberty-hating Marxist president and his thuggish cabinet officers publish reports stating that Christian, constitution defending, veteran patriots and tea party members are more of a danger to America than the Islamic terrorists and then conspire to disarm them, that is tyranny!

    When the American-hating Marxist/Islamofascist president conspires with foreign powers and uses American assets to overthrow middle eastern governments and replace them with his Muslim Brotherhood friends, that is tyranny.

    When the American-hating Marxist president and his thuggish Attorney General states that citizenship is a civil right and must be rewarded to illegal alien border jumpers, that is tyranny!

    Cont’s @ link

    Great job sayin’ it as he see’s it. Sayin’ it like it is!!

  7. Utah (person of interest)? buys a knife & starts a stabbing rampage..
    a man with a gun makes him drop it!… or bang bang…..

  8. Ordinary American 2012 5 hours ago
    Maybe it is a civil right in their own country.

    Our “rights” are based upon the United States Constitution.

    Unfortunately, our Attorney General has never read it yet.

    “Amnesty” for illegal aliens is not mentioned in the Constitution, but Mr. Holder swears he saw it once.


    We Americans are Special People.

    It is not the color of our skin that makes us Americans.

    It is not even the English language that makes us Americans.

    It is not even a common religion that makes us Americans.

    Although being born here or being naturalized makes us Americans, but that’s not what holds us together as a nation.

    The only thing that makes us Americans is the United States Constitution.

    In fact, it is the United States Constitution that makes us a country at all.

    The Liberals and Democrats are trying to erase the Constitution.

    When the U.S. Constitution is gone, then the United States will be gone. It is their purpose and their plan.

    The U.S. Constitution is the only thing that holds us together as a nation.

    Without it, without using it, without respecting it, without honoring it, and without enforcing it, we no longer have a country at all.

    THAT’S how important it is.

  9. Let’s just suppose this was a staged event. Then lets also suppose there were plenty of staged people with similar backpacks placed around and by the way just suppose a few “ExTRAS were asked to appear at the event….like some Europeans and Some Saudis and some Checneans, you know so as to make it really believeable that this was a “terrorista” event of some kind……………THat photo that Miri or leza posted with the saudi kid and his enterage at that parade thing(with the green flag). Did you notice the guy in the back ground of that photo was wearing a cowboy hat and and similar type of shirt of the foreign guy waving the amer. flag the day of the Boston B. event. He has the very same bowed legs. Then there was a short dude all in some sort of offwhite jump suit in the mix of people after the bomb went off. Remember he was just sort of standing around. I think he is in that same green Saudi flag photo too. Check.
    Guess what else. I was listening to a reporter and he was getting reports in on video of different suspects. Guess who was providing video that day and who just happened to be the live stream video that showed the two Chech suspects…….LORD AND TAYLOR Video Cam…..That’s the suspects brought to you by LORD And TAYLOR. What’s the chances of that>???????!!!!!!!***************one in a Zillion!!!!!!!!!

  10. Ride umm’…..Cowboy? Real ….or not?

    • It’s really interesting who this guy is. See for yourself.

      “Alexander Brian Arredondo (born Carlos Luis de Los Ángeles Arredondo Piedra August 25, 1960) is a Costa Rican-American peace activist and an American Red Cross volunteer. He became an anti war activist after his 20-year-old eldest son Lance Corporal Alexander Arredondo died in action during Iraq War in 2004. …”

      They added the part about him being a “Red Cross volunteer” around midnight of the day OF the bombing: Revision as of 23:19, 15 April 2013. Arredondo is pals with guess who? Susan Sarandon!–older-brother-killed-action.html See photos. Can you say, Cindy Sheehan? That’s the group to which Arredondo belonged when he was a “peace activist”, mostly active, I’ll bet, when GWB was President.

      Like the Saudis, what are the odds that he’s right there at the right time? To help the right guy? Now this story says:

      “… The Baumans knew how lucky Jeff had been. “The man in the cowboy hat — he saved Jeff’s life,” Ms. Bauman said. Mr. Bauman’s eyes widened. He said: “There’s a video where he goes right to Jeff, picks him right up and puts him on the wheelchair and starts putting the tourniquet on him and pushing him out. I got to talk to this guy!”

      The man in the cowboy hat, Carlos Arredondo, 52, had been handing out American flags to runners when the first explosion went off. His son Alexander was a Marine killed in Iraq in 2004, and in the years since he has handed out the flags as a tribute.

      With the first blast, Mr. Arredondo jumped over the fence and ran toward the people lying on the ground. What happened next, he later recounted to a reporter: He found a young man, a spectator, whose shirt was on fire. He beat out the flames with his hands. The young man, who turned out to be Jeff Bauman, had lost the lower portion of both legs. He took off a shirt and tied it around the stump of one leg. He stayed with Mr. Bauman, comforting him, until emergency workers came to help carry him to an ambulance.

      He helped only one man, Mr. Bauman. …”

      Now before and after photos of Arredondo show him wearing one shirt–the same shirt. Whose shirt did he take off and use for a tourniquet? In addition, we’ve seen photos of Jeff after the bombing and before Arredondo arrives to help him. His shirt is not on fire, is it? Have we seen any photos of Arredondo putting out flames? While the shirt Jeff is wearing looks possibly singed (as does his hair), wouldn’t it be more likely that hoodie-man put out the flames? I’ve seen NO VIDEO of Arredondo going right to Jeff to help him.

      About Jeff: “Jeff, 27, is a good kid, never got in trouble, his father said. He likes playing guitar. He works behind the deli counter at Costco. He plans to pay off his student loans and go back to school at the University of Massachusetts Lowell.”

      Curiouser and curiouser.

      • Curiouser and curiouser. I’ll say Miri, this is from Carlos Arredondo’s family’s blog

        Tuesday, January 24, 2012
        When both your children die because of war

        I haven’t written on the blog for a long time. War is hell! And to the military families it’s worse then hell.
        Tuesday, December 20, 2011

        Father Loses Second Son

        Carlos Arredondo lost one of his two sons in Iraq. Twenty-year-old Marine Lance Cpl. Alexander Arredondo was killed in Najaf in 2004.

        Now his other son, Brian Arredondo, is also gone. Brian apparently committed suicide on Monday. He was 24.
        In memory of Alexander Arredondo, who was killed in Iraq in 2004. (Anna Miller/Here & Now)

        The last time I saw them was Memorial Day weekend. They had come to the Massachusetts National Cemetery in Bourne to help another Massachusetts family mourn its own loss. Paul Monti of Raynham, Massachusetts had gathered thousands of volunteers to put flags on all the veterans’ graves there, including his son’s. Jared Monti was killed in Afghanistan and was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor. Carlos and Melida came to help and brought Alexander’s boots and a photo of him, and propped them up against a tree in the cemetery.

        Carlos Arredondo was on Here and Now in 2007. He was a native of Costa Rica and he had finally become an American citizen, with the help of the late Sen. Edward Kennedy.

        I had to stop there, WHAT!! Carlos Arredondo finally become an American citizen, with the help of the late Sen. Edward Kennedy.!
        Seem’s Carlos Arredondo and his present wife Melida knew Sen. Kennedy pretty darn well.

        Kennedy’s Legacy Lives At Dorchester Health Clinic

        August 26, 2009

        BOSTON — At 10 o’clock Wednesday morning, a quiet announcement floated through the corridors of the Upham’s Corner Health Center.

        “If you would like to join us in lowering the flag to half staff, please meet in front of the building. Thank you.”

        More than 100 doctors, nurses, therapists and patients poured out to the front of the Columbia Road clinic. Pink and blue scrubs surrounded the flagpole as operations manager Melida Arredondo began to speak.

        “It is fair to say that without the senator’s legislation and all the work he did in the Senate, none of us would be here today,” Arredondo said. “It was his legislation that created community health centers. And for that we honor and remember Sen. Ted Kennedy, the lionhearted Democrat from Massachusetts.”
        The group observed a moment of silence. But only a short one, because the health center is busy. In 1966, Kennedy passed legislation that created the national community health center program. The Upham’s Corner Health Center was one of the first clinics launched after the bill passed.

        Demand has grown dramatically since its founding. The center saw 250,000 patient visits in 2008. It serves a mostly poor, mostly minority population that Arrodondo says would receive little to no health care if the center weren’t there.
        After the moment of silence, Arredondo headed back to her office. But she stopped short in the lobby. Kennedy’s legacy graces every corner of the clinic, Arredondo said.
        In 1972, Kennedy championed WIC, the Women, Infants and Children Nutrition Program. It’s the first of a long list of Kennedy-initiated federal programs that have supported the work at Upham’s Corner, Arredondo says. She counted them off on her fingers: WIC. The Americans with Disabilities Act. Expanded Head Start.
        Sen. Kennedy also personally stepped in when the Health Center needed help. In 2005, the clinic desperately needed a new dentist and tried to hire a highly-respected one from overseas. Arredondo remembers how hard it was to get the dentist a work visa. They talked to immigration services. Nothing. They talked to several members of the Massachusetts congressional delegation. Nothing. After months and months of trying, they still could not get the dentist a work visa.

        “Finally [director Edward Grimes] decided to approach Sen. Kennedy’s office,” Arredondo said. “And within two days the visa was extended. Within two days.”

        However, focus down from the national legislation to a sphere smaller than the local intervention, and that’s where Arredondo says Kennedy’s legacy draws to its finest point. Right in Arredondo’s office, right to a photograph on her desk.

        Lance Corporal Alexander Scott Arredondo. Her stepson. He was killed in action in Iraq on August 25, 2004. Five years ago to the day that Sen. Kennedy died.

        “I just can’t believe it,” Arredondo said.

        Kennedy met with Arredondo four times after her stepson’s death. On the last visit, her husband Carlos told the senator about a memorial scholarship they founded at Alexander’s high school. A few weeks later, they received a letter in the mail that Arredondo still keeps in a protective plastic sleeve in her desk.

        June 8, 2006

        Dear Carlos,

        Thank you so much for your touching letter about the establishment of the Alexander Arredondo Memorial Scholarship Fund at the Blue Hills Regional Technical High School.

        My niece Caroline once said, “I have come to believe more strongly than ever that after people die, they really do live on through those who love them.”

        I commend you for this beautiful tribute to Alexander, and I’m sure he’d be proud of you. It’s a privilege to enclose a donation for the scholarship.

        You and your family will continue to be in my thoughts and prayers, and I send you my warmest wishes.

        Edward M. Kennedy

        So within one year of Sen. Kennedy’s letter to Carlo’s Arredondo Kennedy pulled his weight too help Carlo’s become a citizen? ummm, can we agree too say special favor’s here?

        More snip’s from their family blog

        Thursday, December 10, 2009

        Melida in Time Magazine

        The Afghan War Through a Marine Mother’s Eyes

        Nearly everything is a sad reminder for Mélida Arredondo: the news on TV, stories in the paper, speeches of Barack Obama and others who talk about a war that seems to have lasted so long and affected so many lives, those lost as well as those left behind.

        “Did your son like the Marine Corps?” I ask her.

        “Yes,” she replies. “He loved it.”

        “And why did he join?”

        “Too poor to go to college,” Mélida Arredondo says.

        Alexander Arredondo enlisted at 17 and was killed at 20 in Najaf during his second deployment in Iraq. He died on his father’s birthday, Aug. 25, 2004, when Carlos Arredondo turned 44.

        “My husband almost killed himself in grief,” his wife says. “The day [the Marines] came to tell us Alex was dead, he poured gasoline all over himself and all over the inside of [their] car and lit it on fire. He survived … physically.”

        Last week, she and her husband went to the Kennedy Library in Boston to hear Ted Kennedy’s widow talk about her husband’s book, True Compass. She and Carlos, born in Costa Rica, stood patiently while Vicki Kennedy signed books and shook hands. They reminded her that their son Alex and her husband the Senator died on the same day, Carlos’ birthday, five years apart, and they thanked her for the help Senator Kennedy provided after the young Marine’s death when his father sought citizenship.

        “I remember,” Vicki Kennedy told them.

        Sunday, October 12, 2008
        Carlos on this anniversary authorizing the Iraq invasion
        Antiwar activists gather on Common
        Mark anniversary of vote authorizing the Iraq invasion

        Carlos Arredondo has traveled across 20 states with his portable memorial to his son, a Marine who died in Iraq during his second tour of duty in 2004. But yesterday, Arredondo was home in Boston, where he shared his memorial of hundreds of scrap-wood crosses, combat boots, synthetic flowers, and photographs of Alexander Arredondo at an antiwar rally.

        Hundreds of protesters, some carrying “war is terrorism” posters, others wearing fluorescent yellow “stop the war” stickers, gathered on Boston Common for a National Day of Action Against the War rally, on the sixth anniversary of the congressional vote that authorized the invasion of Iraq. Veterans, student activists, and politicians were among those who spoke against the war.

        Tuesday, August 05, 2008
        Carlos protesting Bush in Maine
        Anti-war protesters target Bush in Maine

        By David Sharp / Associated Press

        KENNEBUNKPORT, Maine — The scene played out Saturday for what could be the last time: a sitting president visited Walker’s Point, tourists held out hope of getting a glimpse of the president, and a group of noisy protesters paraded through the heart of town.

        Thursday, July 24, 2008
        Can you feel the respect returning?

        I drove around in 2004 with the saying
        Restore World Respect – Vote Bush Out!
        on the back of my car….

        Today I feel the respect returning with our next president Germany.
        Look at what this man is doing.
        Look at the faces of the other people
        You can see the hope of change for better things to come
        For the world….

        Remember Us – Documentary tells of war families’ pain

        By John R. Ellement Globe Staff / November 10, 2007

        Carlos Arrendondo’s pain and the life and death of his Marine son, Lance Corporal Alexander Arredondo, are not part of a new documentary about families from New England that lost loved ones in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

        But Arrendondo was at Northeastern University in Boston last night, watching a preview of the 90-minute New England Cable News documentary. He came at the invitation of Senator Edward M. Kennedy, who had invited dozens of others like Arredondo.

        “It’s important for the community to see and remember all of our sons and daughters who paid the ultimate sacrifice,” said Arredondo, of Roslindale.

        Much more there at that blog. My take on Carlo’s and his wife is that he and his wife are extreme leftest radical’s that had tie’s to Kennedy, obviously…..! Kennedy pulled string’s too help him become a citizen. Carlo’s is just the type of radical the dem’s love most!

        • ahhhh ha! and after the bombing’s they are pushing Immigration reform even harder saying – with reform we will know who they are!

          2+2 = what say you?

          Immigrant Solidarity Network

          Released 01 August 2007 By MARGARET MATRAY, RICHMOND TIMES-DISPATCH

          Conference at UR on immigrant solidarity
          Parents whose son died in Iraq attend, criticize military recruitment

          Sunday, Jul 29, 2007


          Carlos Arredondo’s son, Alexander Scott Arredondo, was 14 the first time he was approached by a military recruiter.

          Alex joined the Marines when he was 17.
          And he died in Iraq in 2004 when he was 20.

          Arredondo travels the country to tell his story and warn parents about what he says are methods recruiters use to enlist young people and “seduce the immigrants.”

          Arredondo and his wife, Melida, were among a group of about 75 immigrant, labor and human-rights activists that gathered yesterday at the University of Richmond as part of a three-day conference hosted by the National Immigrant Solidarity Network.

          The grass-roots conference was meant to create an open dialogue about immigration issues and link different activist groups to form a unified movement, said Lee Siu Hin, coordinator for the network, to the crowd inside the university’s law school building.
          The Arredondos, who are from Roslindale, Mass., said they believe certain military recruiting campaigns target young immigrants and Latino families. Recruiters appeal to the audience by saying that enlisting can help immigrants reach the “American dream,” Melida Arredondo said.

          She said she remembers finding gifts — CDs, knapsacks, cigarettes and lighters — in her son’s room when she was tidying up one day before he was deployed. Alex also was given $10,000 as a sign-up bonus when he enlisted.

          “I’m speaking out as much as I can,” Carlos Arredondo said. Arredondo wore his son’s dogtags around his neck and a black T-shirt that read: “No nos quedaremos callados — We will not be silent.” Arredondo received national attention after his son’s death when he doused a government van with gasoline, climbed inside and set it on fire.

          The speeches and meetings yesterday were peaceful. Hin said he was told by UR police officers that demonstrators might show up to protest the conference, but the hallways of the law school were quiet throughout the day.

          In the late morning, activists and Virginia activist organizations met to talk about a state-wide solidarity movement. The activists discussed possibly starting a Dreams Across America Tour specific to Virginia. Dreams Across America sends immigrants throughout the U.S. to tell their stories and help dispel myths about immigration.

          Cristina Rebeil, an attorney with Virginia Poverty Law Center, said putting a face on the immigrant population is vital.

          “We need to work cross-culturally. Nothing is going to change until we share our stories,” she said. “We need to come together and tell people who we all are.”

          Richmond resident Ben Ragsdale attended the conference because he was “appalled at the way we’re treating the immigrant issue.” Ragsdale was an activist in the civil-rights and anti-war movements more than 40 years ago, and said he thinks people are trying to “demonize” immigrants today.

          “I’m glad to see some diverse groups come together,” he said. “We need to be much more immigrant-friendly.”

          Another, with Melida Arredondo

          Released 05 August 2007 By Deborah Davis – In These Times

          Illegal Immigrants: Uncle Sam Wants You

          By Deborah Davis
          In These Times
          Wednesday 25 July 2007

          Lie’s, lie’s, and more lie’s, then Melida Arredondo’s add’s her leftest anti military activist lie’s –

          However, Gutierrez remains the only illegal alien on the U.S. casualty rolls whose real hometown is listed, while others who die are reported to be from Boston or Los Angeles, or wherever a recruiter finds them. In New York City, according to counter-recruitment activist Melida Arredondo, whose young stepson was killed in Iraq, DEP recruiters instruct illegal immigrants to write “New York City” as their “home of record address” on the enlistment form, and to write “pending” for their Social Security number.

          • Friday, October 19, 2007

            Sabeel in Boston — Protest and Counter-Protest Details

            So the Sabeel “It’s the Jews’ Fault” event is happening next Friday and Saturday the 26th and 27th.

            There is an “anti-War” rally planned for Boston Common starting at noon on that Saturday:

            …BOSTON COMMON
            pre-rally starts at 11:00 rally from noon to 2:00
            march begins at 2:00
            speakers: MEDIA BENJAMIN HOWARD ZINN
            ROSTAM POURZAL JOHN WILHEIM and more…

            They’ll be piggybacking on the Sabeel rally which is happening at 3PM on Copley Plaza [PDF]:

            Tearing Down Walls – Building Bridges
            Protesting Apartheid in Israel/Palestine
            October 27th, 2007 – 3:00 p. m.
            Copley Square, Boston
            Hear activists from
            Israel, Palestine, South Africa
            and the U. S. address the issues
            of inequality, violence and peace
            in Israel/Palestine


            • Seriously? Anti-Israel stuff? I just knew that Medea would be in the mix here, somehow, some way. While I have total sympathy for what these people have gone through, losing two sons, I mentioned his background ONLY to enlighten people to the curiosity of him being right there at the right time. So that people can see and understand (not that I do yet) what’s going on here. The fundamental transformation of our country by a bunch of radical leftists who are devoted to the “by any means necessary” philosophy. The Muslim jihadists (and those who desire universal sharia law) and the radical leftists have in common several things: Hatred for Israel, hatred for the USA and all She stands for, and a drive to IMPOSE their TOTALITARIAN ideology on EVERYONE. They are birds of a feather. I read somewhere yesterday that this man and his wife have been treated for psychiatric problems. (It was wikipedia–said both were psychiatric inpatients.) That could explain some of what we see, but on the other hand …

              btw, the wife is the stepmother of the sons.

            • The link doesn’t work, Leza. I can’t figure out what’s wrong.

          • Marathon rescuer gets attention from press and FBI

            By JEFF DONN AP National Writer
            Posted: 04/17/2013 06:52:03 PM MDT


          • Try this one Miri. Sorry, that was that’s site index link, here’s the actual link –

            Solomonia: Sabeel in Boston — Protest and Counter-Protest

            Friday, October 19, 2007


  11. drkate has a video in comment section …. ACTORS…very good
    to bring over you must sign… on the … youtube org. link
    check it out…..

  12. there’s much truth in a joke. especially when its an inside joke and the joker has to reiterate its a joke.

    no joke, Breitbart thought this should be a headline. another joke.

    hey Breitbart, tell us about the one concerning a Red Hook NY middle school.

    • Outrageous.

      “… Parents say their daughters were told to ask one another for a kiss and they say two girls were told to stand in front of the class and pretend they were lesbians on a date.

      Parent, Mandy Coon, spoke with reporters saying, “she told me, ‘Mom we all get teased and picked on enough, now I’m going to be called a lesbian because I had to ask another girl if I could kiss her.’”

      Coon says parents were given no warning about the presentation and there was no opportunity to opt-out. Both the school principal and the district superintendent are defending the workshops and advising they will schedule more.

      “The school is overstepping its bounds in not notifying parents first and giving us the choice,” another parent said. “I thought it was very inappropriate. That kind of instruction is best left up to the parents.”

      “I was absolutely furious — really furious,” a parent who asked to remain anonymous told reporter Todd Starnes, “These are just kids. I’m dumbfounded that they found this class was appropriate.

      Superintendent Paul Finch told The Poughkeepsie Journal the presentation was “focused on improving culture, relationships, communication and self-perceptions.””

      So we go from an age of trying to promote “self esteem” in all children to an age where authorities in the school BULLY the children to deliberately try to confuse them and break down their “self-perceptions”. In other words, to indoctrinate them in “gay culture” and what? Open them up to new experiences? NORMALIZING HOMOSEXUALITY? Traumatizing the kids in the process, making them feel wrong and ashamed that they FEEL WRONG AND ASHAMED for being FORCED TO ACT OUT HOMOSEXUAL ACTS! It’s BEYOND OUTRAGEOUS. I hope to hear SOON that these people are fired.

      • This is interesting. Did they not DARE to make boys kiss each other? So they practice sex discrimination right there in their process of teaching girls not to discriminate or bully others for being “pansexual”? Get this:

        “According to reports, during the workshop for the adolescent boys, the students were counseled to keep a condom in their pocket at all times, and were taught how to identify a woman who is a “slut.”


      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        So much for Hillary’s “Village”. IT TAKES PARENTS!! (preferably two and definitely of the opposite sex)

  13. “From Tea Party favorite to corrupt Washington insider in only two years, ladies and gentlemen I give you Marco Rubio.”
    “Marco Rubio: Corrupted by Washington in Only Two Years”
    By Fred Dardick

    “It’s hard to believe that Marco Rubio has only been in the Senate since January 2011. With the way he has been going on lately, telling conservatives what a bunch of unenlightened rubes we are for objecting to his immigration reform, you would think he’d been a Senator for 20 years.”

  14. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Wrong. He has always been pro amnesty. He used to be careful in his speeches and was always duplicitous about it. But as I wrote in another post on a different thread, this has always been his agenda.

    • True Rose some just couldn’t see it 🙂

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        That’s because he was the king of deceptively pandering to the Tea Party prior to his election, foxy. But anyone who listened to him address the issue when asked could hear him tap dancing around the issue. Don’t have time to search for a citation, but as memory serves, when he was State Senator he was instrumental in passing two Bills that were favorable to illegals. I could be mistaken. It’s been awhile. So much corruption, so little time!

  15. “Obama jokes with White House correspondents
    ‘I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be'”
    ConservativeAmerican’s comment at WND:

    “”Many a true word is spoken in jest”

    Can you imagine the back room laughter at the fact they let him tell the truth and the sheeple smile and keep feeding at the trough obliviously.”

  16. “American Newborns Are Being Sold By Illegal Aliens”
    by ladysforest on April 27, 2013

    “I have a very personal story to tell you. Once you have read it you may wonder why I didn’t tell it with more passion, more outrage, more disbelief. I suppose it would be in part because although I was horrified on learning all of the details, I was not surprised.

    I’ll just tell the very basics of this story for that sickens me sufficiently. Please keep in mind the Gang of Eight, and their Immigration Reform scheme headed by Marco Rubio when you read this.

    It is about an illegal alien and two newborn infants who were put up for sale.

    It is a true story.”

    [“Please, although this story shares such a shameful series of events within my extended family, I want this story to be known. Help save untold newborns from this fate ~ contact the Gang of Eight. Share this story with them.”]

    • This story was written by ladysforest? Whoever’s family it is, I truly feel for them. What a sad, sad story, any way you look at it. It’s true that babies are bought and sold in Mexico. Absolute truth. One comforting thought, though, is that there truly are childless parents who want them. The government looks the other way because it’s one more child their government won’t have to care for. These children, however, might have ended up in a relatively well off home right here in the USA. Let’s pray that they did.

      • Miri ~ this story was indeed written by me, and it is a true story about my niece. She sold two baby girls at the insistence of her illegal immigrant boyfriend. She was living in upstate NY during the time ~ so this happens in the US.

        They were angry because they got “ripped off” by the people that took the first newborn girl. I suspect the “boyfriend” got some money and just told her otherwise.

        • Thank you for sharing what must have been a heart-wrenching story to tell. We can only pray that the little girls have been placed in homes where they are loved and cherished. I’ll keep them and your family in my prayers.

          • Thank you Miri. I have gone back and forth about publishing the story. I feel that now is the time to pull the curtain back, and let the public know that there are a lot of unspoken, unacknowledged, unseen criminal activities that are going on in the shadows of the illegal immigrant activities in our own country. Just next door – or in your own family.

            It happened in mine.

        • Rosemary Woodhouse

          Oh my, Hugs for you, ladyforest. It must have taken a lot of soul searching and courage for you to share that story/

    • It is indeed a sad, sad story. I read the story as though they both weren’t illegal, the boyfriend was and the girl was an American citizen. This is more a story of the effects of having a drug habit and no real job, and what lengths people will go to maintain their habit. I do wonder if the child was born with multiple problems since many kids of mom’s who inbide suffer tremendously at birth and beyond. It appears the baby went home so the infant was released from the hospital. If the mom took drugs during her pregnancy, the effects on the child and the complications because of the mom’s habit may show up later. It sounds as though these two made unlawful and unrealistic plans should it occur again. Most likely the plans were hatched while high. The fact that the Mexican knew how to do it or knew about it, means it does happen as he was familiar with it. How did they find willing people to take the child…on the internet. Where did they advertise? Those type websites should be shut down for illegal activity. There are desperate people on both sides, those having the child and those unable to have one who will do anything legal or illegal to have a child to call their own.

      • She was an addict during both pregnancys. I have no doubt that the children will have health issues.
        As to how they “found” buyers – she said that the illegal Mexican boyfriend showed her how.

  17. Busted! Nancy Cantor, chancellor of Syracuse University!


    “Prior to her appointment at Syracuse, Chancellor Cantor served as chancellor of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign; provost and executive vice president for academic affairs at the University of Michigan, prior to which she had been dean of its Horace H. Rackham School of Graduate Studies and vice provost for academic affairs; she also was professor of psychology and senior research scientist at the Institute for Social Research at Michigan. Previously, she had been chair of the department of psychology at Princeton University.

    While at Michigan, she was closely involved in the university’s defense of affirmative action in the cases Grutter and Gratz, decided by the Supreme Court in 2003.

    In her role as a social psychologist, Chancellor Cantor is recognized for her scholarly contributions to the understanding of how individuals perceive and think about their social worlds, pursue personal goals, and how they regulate their behavior to adapt to life’s most challenging social environments.

    An author of numerous books, chapters, and scientific journal articles, Chancellor Cantor holds an A.B. from Sarah Lawrence College and a Ph.D. in Psychology from Stanford University. She is a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and a member of the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences. She has received the Distinguished Scientific Award for an Early Career Contribution to Psychology from the American Psychological Association, the Woman of Achievement Award from the Anti-Defamation League, the Making a Difference for Women Award from the National Council for Research on Women, the Reginald Wilson Diversity Leadership Award from the American Council on Education, and the Frank W. Hale, Jr. Diversity Leadership Award from the National Association of Diversity Officers in Higher Education.

    Among the boards of which Chancellor Cantor is a member are the American Institutes for Research, the New York Academy of Sciences, the UC Davis Board of Advisers, and the Say Yes to Education Foundation. She is also past chair of the board of directors of the American Association for Higher Education, the American Council on Education, and a former trustee of Sarah Lawrence College, the Paul Taylor Dance Company, and The Future of Minority Studies. In addition, she is an Honorary Trustee of the American Psychological Foundation and was national co-chair of Imagining America’s Tenure Team Initiative.”

  18. more answers on lower left…. Nancy Cantor … 2-4-1952

    • Makes her a little too young to be Bari’s mom. 😉

      Back to the drawing board, Martha.

      • Back to the drawing board, Martha. Everyone disproves as mother, obviously, thus no one will ask “Who is she? and Why was she there?” And….why does she look like Obama? See, no one will ask questions because she has been debunked. Martha, are you one sly paid troll for the “Ministry of Truth”?

        There was a pic on the “face” page Zenway linked to that had Not-O’s-Mommy laughing, signature Barry. Now I can’t find it and it is bugging me..;

  19. Face time with MR. Nancy Cantor…5-14-2010
    ~ Steven R Brechin 58
    … I think they have a daughter Matty and 1 son ?

  20. April 28, 2013

    “Video: National Public Radio’s Betsy Liley Openly Admitted Obama Birther Cover Up”
    “NPR’s Betsy Liley Openly Admitted Obama Birther Cover Up”
    By Tim Brown @ Freedom Outpost

    “Senior Director of Institutional Giving for NPR Betsy Liley said it is still a question of whether or not Barack Obama was born in the United States. She clearly is heard talking about a coverup, keeping the birther issue out of the news because it was “political” and even indicating that there was monkey business going on in Hawaii concerning Obama’s birth certificate. Listen to the brief audio below and see for yourself. Birthers are not just on the right. There are clearly birthers on the left, they just want to cover up the truth.”
    March 8, 2011

    “FLASHBACK: NPR’s Betsy Liley; Still A Question If Obama Born In USA; Just A Fact; We’re Not Reporting It”

    • Uploaded on March 8, 2011

    • She has created an excuse for not covering it: The political desks could cover “birthers” as a political phenomenon. She does clearly say that it’s still a question whether or not Barry was born in the USA. It’s interesting that she makes it a point to say that Barry says he was born in Hawaii WHEN IT WAS A STATE. Hmmmm. Is anybody talking about him being born in Hawaii when it WASN’T a state?

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