Dates That Live in Infamy (Open Thread)

© Miri WTPOTUS December 7, 2012

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Today is National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day. Today we commemorate the “date which will live in infamy.” And so it does and so it shall.

A column published today recounts the story of Art Clymer, a boiler technician on the USS Chew–a World War I-era destroyer that was stationed at Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941.  Mr. Clymer was in the bowels of his ship when he heard the first sounds of the Japanese attack.  Here’s how this boiler technician responded, after he arrived on deck: [emphasis added]

He saw Japanese planes. Lots of them.

The Chew had a 3-inch gun. That is, it fired 3-inch projectiles.

“Can you handle this gun?” an officer shouted toward Art.

Art was a boiler tech, but he figured if somebody was shooting at him, he could handle the gun.

But there was another problem. The 3-inch rounds had fuses and they were sealed. There was a setting tool somewhere to take off the seals, but Art had no idea where it was. He started yanking those seals off with his teeth, much like he used to open beer bottles with his teeth back home. Who’d have thought that trick would come in handy?

All this was happening in the middle of mayhem, with the Japanese planes so low that Art could see the faces of the pilots.

In a sense, that was a good thing. “I could throw a potato higher than that gun could shoot,” he would say years later.

But it shot straight. In the official after-action report, the Chew’s 3-inch gun was credited with three hits. One direct hit disintegrated a plane in midair, a second demolished a plane’s tail assembly.

Art Clymer became an American hero:  A boiler mate who shot down at least two Japanese planes, saving who knows how many lives. 

Mr. Clymer survived and went on to marry the love of his life and raise two children.  He’s what is best of America.  This member of the Greatest Generation rose to the occasion and did what had to be done, improvising and learning as he went, drawing upon his experience and getting the job done.

How many other unsung American heroes are there?  Too many to count. They are what is best of America.

Mr. Clymer’s story brings to mind another American hero whose story was printed recently:  Tyrone Woods, who died at the U.S. “mission” in Benghazi:

Tyrone Woods, 41, was found “slumped over his machine gun, which was caked with blood,” Charles Woods, the former SEAL’s father, said during a telephone interview from his home in Hawaii.

He had continued to fire until he had no blood left and was unable to fire anymore,” Mr. Woods said. …

Woods was on the roof of the mission, as mortar rounds slammed into the building:

The first one was well short of the building, the second and third landed in front of the building, and the fourth one went up and landed on the roof,” Mr. Woods said. “That’s what killed Ty.”

The round slammed into the roof where the former SEAL was positioned, and “I was told that if it had been a heavier round, it would have gone through the roof and exploded inside the building where 30 or so Americans were being protected by Ty and by Glen,” he said.

Noting that Tyrone Woods left behind “a newborn baby and a beautiful wife,” Mr. Woods said his son was “a hero who was willing to sacrifice his life.”

The parents of Tyrone Woods still do not know why their son had to die.  They still don’t know why no order to “fire” was given by this president after Tyrone Woods called out the coordinates of the mortar that eventually took his life and the life of Glen Doherty.

Woods gave his life doing what had to be done to save the lives of others.   Woods and Doherty were lost in a long war that bears some resemblance to the war in which Art Clymer fought.

During World War II, the Japanese sent “kamikaze pilots” on suicide missions.  They, like the Islamist suicide bombers of today, were religiously inspired.  The word kamikaze means, “God wind” or “Divine wind.”

In 1944–45, the Japanese were heavily influenced by Shinto beliefs. Among other things, Emperor worship was stressed after Shinto was established as a state religion during the Meiji Restoration. As time went on, Shinto was used increasingly in the promotion of nationalist sentiment. In 1890, the Imperial Rescript on Education was passed, under which students were required to ritually recite its oath to offer themselves “courageously to the State” as well as protect the Imperial family. The ultimate offering was to give up one’s life. It was an honour to die for Japan and the Emperor. … “The fact is that innumerable soldiers, sailors and pilots were determined to die, to become eirei, that is ‘guardian spirits’ of the country. … Young Japanese people were indoctrinated from an earliest age with these ideals.

Today, Islam is the state religion of many countries.  Islam has always been used for nationalistic purposes.  In fact, that is Islam’s raison de etre.  Students are indoctrinated with the tenets of radical Islam in madrassas all around the world.  Instead of becoming guardian spirits of their countries, today’s Islamic suicide killers believe that they will be rewarded with 72 virgins in a Muslim paradise.

Woods and Doherty, as well as Chris Stevens and Sean Smith, gave their lives in a war that began on another date that lives in INFAMY:  September 11, 2001.  Thousands of others have lost their lives in this war against radical Islam, among them the more than 3000 murdered in cold blood on 9/11.

Today we remember those who died at Pearl Harbor.  As we honor them, we should also remember and honor all who have served, especially those who gave their lives so that we may remain free.

127 responses to “Dates That Live in Infamy (Open Thread)

  1. New open thread.

    • Pearl Harbor dead remembered on 71st anniversary
      Dec 7, 7:31 AM (ET) Snip

      PEARL HARBOR, Hawaii (AP) – More than 2,000 people are gathering at Pearl Harbor on Friday to mark the 71st anniversary of the Japanese attack that killed thousands of people and launched the United States into World War II. Ceremonies get under way with a moment of silence at 7:55 a.m., the exact time the bombing began in 1941.

      The crew of a Navy guided-missile destroyer will stand on deck while the ship passes the USS Arizona, a battleship that still lies in the harbor where it sank decades ago. Hawaii Air National Guard aircraft will fly overhead in missing man formation. The Navy and National Park Service are hosting the ceremonies, which are being held in remembrance of the 2,390 service members and 49 civilians killed in the attack.

      Friday events will also give special recognition to members of the Women Airforce Service Pilots, who flew noncombat missions during World War II, and to Ray Emory, a 91-year-old Pearl Harbor survivor who has pushed to identify the remains of unknown servicemen.

  2. In March 2011 I wrote this post, asking who we are arming and why we are arming them:

    Yesterday, the NY Times article disclosing that Barry knew that US arms were going to al Qaeda terrorists in Libya. Here’s Breitbart’s take on it:

    “BenghaziGate: Obama Admin Knew Libyan Terrorists Had US-Provided Weapons”

    “As Breitbart News reported, Benghazi was controlled by terrorist group Ansar Al-Shariah. And terrorists like Sufyan Ben Qumu, who was originally rumored to be the planner of the Benghazi attack (sources later denied he was the planner), were armed and supplied by the United States in their war against Muammar Qadaffi.

    If, in fact, US-funneled weapons were used in the Benghazi attack and the administration knew about it, that would explain their initial attempt to position the Benghazi attack as a spontaneous riot gone amiss. It’s one thing to hand guns to Libyan rebels who later go crazy about a YouTube video – that’s at least mildly justifiable. It’s radically unjustifiable to hand over weapons to terrorists, who then go on to plan attacks against the United States.”

    Sure, and that’s what we said all along.

    • Had a thought just now — What if some of the boatloads of hollow-point ammo purchased and/or requisitioned by various federally-affiliated entites is being funneled “over there”, rather than with the intent of going to war against the citizenry here?

      Please accept my apologies if the above thought has been previously posted by someone else.

      • I don’t recall anyone else saying that. It is a possibility, but still doesn’t make sense. With the recently passing NDAA laws that Obama can use the military within the USA against Americans whenever the emperor chooses, I still think the ammo is for his purposes. It certainly is suspicious to stockpile ammo in unusual government facilities that have no use for it. Who knows how these whack jobs think.

        • Air Force Brat!

          “Whack jobs” is right, no disagreement there!

          An additional theory I’ve seen — that they’re buying it all up, for the sole purpose of making it difficult or impossible for “regular people” to get it. You know, like “neener neener, you can’t have any”. Trying to think of the specific term . . . . “artificially created shortage” or something like that?

          • I have NRA/militia members that live around me, and they have been buying ammo since Obama was elected. From what they say, it is posted on military and militia websites to do so for the fear that it would stop being available to citizens or that the government would confiscate all of it. I hear about their latest stockpiles often. One sold a gun and bought another when the ammo ran out, wasn’t being produced any longer, or was jacked up in price. The one industry that has done really well under BHO is the gun industry.

            I like your term, “artificially created shortage”.

          • soon we may have to use tungsten in ammo,no more lead….which China is practically the sole owner of tungsten mines, so maybe we are stockpiling.

      • That’s a possibility! Never thought of that myself, but it’s actually preferable to thinking they’re stockpiling to use against us. Maybe the ammo was part of Fast and Furious! Or maybe they’re just stocking up in advance of their leftist plan to put the US ammo manufacturers out of business, as in back door gun control by regulating ammo makers out of existence. Then there’d be a shortage for a while until the ammo makers in China get geared up. Ya think? There is that proposed UN treaty to regulate import/export of guns and one would expect it to cover ammo. So if there are no ammo makers in the US and there’s a treaty that prevents outside ammo makers from exporting to the US and if they finally control the border to keep anybody from bringing ammo into the country, then it won’t matter if we have our Second Amendment rights because we won’t have any ammo.

  3. Wow. Can this really happen?
    “NY Judge Set To Rule On Deceitful GM Bailout”

    “A New York federal judge may rule imminently on a case that could reverse the General Motors (GM) bailout and send the company back into bankruptcy, according to sources close to the case.

    At issue is a backroom deal hatched by GM to fulfill the Obama administration’s demand for a quick bankruptcy, draining the automaker of nearly all of its cash on hand and leaving it in worse shape than it was when it collapsed in 2009.

    One condition of GM’s bailout was to shore up its overseas subsidiaries. On the eve of entering bankruptcy, the company cut a $367 million “lock-up agreement” with several major hedge funds to prevent GM Canada from failing. The agreement ensured that GM could spin-off its liabilities to “old GM,” while using a multi-billion dollar bailout to create a new company.

    All of that could be reversed if bankruptcy Judge Robert Gerber reopens the process and rules in favor of old GM trustees, who are suing the hedge funds at the center of the lockout agreement.”

    It’s written that the judge is majorly angry that he was not told about this and, in essence, was deceived.

    • Leo should take notice – after all he ran into one of the deceitful judges when trying the case for the Chrysler franchisees.

  4. One of our regular readers (forgive me for forgetting which) had a particular interest in this story:

    “Like Mother Like Daughter… Malia Obama’s Spring Break Vacation Cost U.S. Taxpayers $115,500”

    “Judicial Watch today released records detailing the government funds expended on First Daughter Malia Obama’s March 2012 Spring Break vacation to Mexico. According to the records, obtained from the U.S. Secret Service as a result of a Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed on September 20, 2012, the total cost of the trip amounted to $115,500.87 (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Secret Service (No. 12-cv-01562)).

    The following is a breakdown of the costs as detailed in the documents:

    Ground transportation: $23,964.81
    Lodging: $21,682.92
    Airfare: $47,767.34
    “Vouchers”: $21,636.14 (not itemized)
    Support Charges: $449.66 (travel for one from Mexico City to Oaxaca, not itemized)

    Malia Obama’s spring break trip evoked controversy after the Obama White House reportedly ordered the removal of press reports detailing the trip. On March 19,2012, numerous online press outlets reported that the president’s 13-year-old daughter, Malia Obama, was on a Spring Break trip to Mexico accompanied by 25 U.S. Secret Service Agents and as many as 12 of her friends. However, shortly after the press reports surfaced they were quickly removed from the Internet. The trip took place shortly after the Texas Department of Public Safety issued a statement advising students on Spring Break “to avoid Mexico.””

    • Astounding numbers. This should be charged back to the Obama’s. Is it written that the taxpayers dole out cash for a president’s kid’s vacation? Were they on a private plane or what kind of tickets did those kids get to have to pay $47,767? That must include the Secret Service agents, but still! Looking at 25 Secret service and 25 kids (don’t know how many kids went) and giving a ticket from DC to Mexico at $400 = $20,000. Were they on Air Force One without parents? Lodging for how many days? – and Mexico isn’t that expensive per day- unless they got to stay in one of the priciest hotels – 50 rooms or did the secret service get separate rooms? Did the girls double up or also get the luxury of a single room.

      • That’s a good point about where it’s written that We the People have to pay for this stuff. I thought there was a finite list of people who get Secret Service protection. I wonder if the Bush girls, when they were out clubbing with friends, had a ratio of 2 agents per 1 friend/presidential daughter, IF ANY! It’s still up in the air whether Jarrett should have Secret Service protection. There was an outcry when Pelosi used government planes to fly back and forth to CA; there ought to be a similar outcry about this. One would think that one or two agents for Malia herself should be sufficient, if it’s even necessary for her to take such a trip in the first place. One must wonder about her parents. Seriously. You’d think Grandma Robinson would have spoken up.

  5. “May GOD have Mercy on their Souls, and Provide Solace for those “Commended to the Deep!”~AMEN!

  6. As a date that will live in infamy, I predict Nov. 6, 2012 will someday trump Dec 7, 1942

  7. Who did the purging of TEA Party members from House Committees? They are listed.

    John Boehner Needs to Go ~ Here is How You Can Make it Happen
    Dec. 7

    The following is the List of House Members Behind the Purge. Please note that Paul Ryan, who is heralded as a Tea Party Conservative by many misinformed voters, is ON THE LIST:….

  8. Congress and White House to Put Thousands of Charities Out of Business
    December 7, 2012

    Most charities in the United States rely on donations as their primary source of income. When donations are made to a non-profit charity, they become a tax deduction to the person or corporation giving the donation. Subsequently, many people only give donations because of the tax deduction they receive. This can be seen in the fact that many non-profit charities receive a third to half of their annual donations in the month December as people begin to think about income taxes and the need for deductions.

    Now, those tax deductions are in danger of being reduced or disappearing all together and if they do, a large percentage of donations will also disappear resulting in many a charity having to close their doors and it all has to do with the infamous fiscal cliff.

    One of the economic plans being put forth by Democrats calls for the reduction of allowable charitable tax deductions. Others are proposing a cap on the amount of allowable charitable tax deductions and yet others are abdicating dropping all tax deductions for charitable donations.
    Did you know that in a socialist nation that all charity comes from the government, not from people and organizations? Kind of fits in with the rest of the socialistic changes Barack Obama has been making, doesn’t it?

    • Longing for the day when there might be good news. Instead it is a continuation of the past four years. The latest hits that may be coming. Non profits and Charities be warned. If you are working for a charity, your job is in jeopardy. Being charitable is coming to an end? When the economy has totally soured, too. Democrats and Speaker Boehner put forth this plan of eliminating charitable deductions.

      • I don’t think being charitable will come to an end. Perhaps, and this might be a good thing, the days of humongous million-dollar salaries for heads of charities will come to an end. Christians (and many others) will remain charitable. Many who give to charities and don’t avail themselves of any tax deduction. You have to be able to itemize first, and most who take those donations are the very wealthy. And they are the people who are NOT really charitable–it’s in their self-interest that they “give” and it’s only to reduce their own tax bite.

    • It perfectly fits their communist goals. The proposed commie government can have no competition–all must be dependent upon the GOVERNMENT. I wonder if, as with Obamacare, there will be an exception for Muslim charities?

  9. John Elizabeth McEacheron • 28 minutes ago
    Congratulations to the Democrats and Young People! You now own it and you can’t blame Bush.
    The next terrorist attack you own it.
    Can’t get a job after graduation, you own it.
    Sky rocketing energy prices due to Obama’s EPA shutting down the energy producing states, you own it.
    A nuclear Iran, you own it.
    Bowing to Russia, you own it.
    Another severe recession, you own it.
    A volatile border with Mexico, you own it.
    Trouble getting good health care, you own it.
    Higher health insurance costs and health care costs, you own it.
    No budget, you own it. Our allies mistrust, you own it.
    Another trillion of debt, you own it.
    More Benghazi situations, you own it.
    No one willing to join the military, you own it.
    Trouble getting a loan to buy a home, you own it.
    More dependency on food stamps, you own it.
    Trouble finding good employment, you own it.
    Several part time jobs instead of a good job, you own it.
    A World Government, you own it.
    The UN governing the United States instead of ourselves, you own it.
    A Senate that will not bring any legislation to the table even if it is “Dead on Arrival”, you own it.
    China controlling our world trade trampling all over us, you own it.
    Loss of our freedoms as we have known it in the past, you own it.
    A dictatorship instead of a democracy that follows the Constitution, you own it.
    Less take home pay and higher living costs, you own it.
    Driving a car that looks like a toy, you own it.
    More government corruption and lies, you own it.
    More toleration of extreme and fanatical Islamists, you own it.
    Terrorist attacks called work place incidents, you own it.
    Your revenge instead of love of country, you own it.
    President George Bush is out of it now, and there is not another good man for you to vilify and lie about. In a way I am relieved that another good man will not be blamed when it was impossible to clean up this mess you voted for. Have a good day. God bless the United States! God is our hope now.

    P.S. Hey… hear about the …. NEW POSITION ? It’s called ‘MY WAY or the HIGHWAY’ … I think I’ll TRY IT TONIGHT!!!….

  10. This is another teaser that I think relates to the Sibley law suit but it could be about another person that we aren’t aware of yet.

    BREAKING! Sheriff Arpaio – FULL STEAM AHEAD With BHO Investigation!!

    In the next week there will be a huge push forward on the Eligibility issue.

    • Maybe it’s Trump that they’re talking about. He has already said that he loved surprises.

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        Please pray for Sheriff Arpaio’s safety. Barry has a habit of making those he perceives as a threat go away. Yes, kittycat, I also hope they are referring to Trump.

    • Wrong at 0:43.

      COLB => June 12, 2008

      LFBC => April 27, 2011
      Published: May 13, 2011

      Jerome Corsi:

      “New ‘birth certificate’ anomalies inexplicable”

      “A growing list of apparent anomalies in the Obama long-form birth certificate released by the White House continues to fuel suspicion that the document is a crude, computer-generated forgery.

      The Hawaii Department of Health and the White House have insisted that the document made public April 27 after nearly three years of public demand is genuine.

      In addition, the White House-released Obama birth certificate has the same deficiency that the short-form certification of live birth had when it was first displayed to the public by the on June 12, 2008. Both documents have been made available only in a digitized form and neither have a raised impression of the Hawaii state seal.”

  11. Can Obama Be Impeached?…YES!!! ~ THIS is a~ GREAT VIDEO…
    Should BARRY Be Impeached???? HE~ LIED’ 2 EVERYONE!
    Can Obama Be Impeached?…OF COURSE!!! What IS~ the HOLD~UP?

  12. Remember those pre election jobs numbers that everyone dismissed as lies and that someone was messing with the numbers? Amazingly – well, not amazing at all, but normal for this administration – they have “revisions.” Don’t worry Obama voters, you know he can’t sleep worrying about you being out of work. This news should be celebrated? How low can the bar go? 540K drop out and 146K were created. Do you see those numbers like I do?

    Obama Curve: Media Celebrate Meager Job Growth, 540K Dropping Out of Workforce
    Dec. 7

    Today saw the release of the November jobs numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The news is that Hurricane Sandy did not affect hiring. 146,000 jobs were created and the unemployment rate edged down to 7.7%, the lowest rate since September of 2008. Revisions brought worse news. 49,000 fewer jobs were created in September and October than originally reported.


    • Pathetic.
      Also at Breibart – To go along with the article above:

      73% of Jobs Created In Last Five Months are Government Jobs!

      According to Gallup, not since November of 2008 has the 12-month hiring intent of small-business owners been as low as it is today. In worse news, 21% of small business owners expect to decrease jobs in 2013.

    • They have to create a “recovery” so that thinks looks even worse and they can blame the REPUBLICANS all the more if we go over their stupid “fiscal cliff” and a recession happens. Then they will blame it all on the Republicans. They’ll say, “See, Obama’s policies were working but the Republicans’ policies caused this recession.”

      They know recession is inevitable, no matter what, on account of the debt OBAMA has created and the new taxes coming from Obamacare. They will likely blame those taxes on the Republicans, too.

      The Republicans have NOBODY but themselves to blame because it was obvious from the get go that this situation would occur right after the election. They probably thought Obama would lose or at least that they’d have both houses of Congress and could fix the situation in time. But they never should have allowed themselves to be backed into this “sequester”. With this media and this potus, they ought to have known that they were being duped.

  13. This man will be sorely missed for speaking his mind and the truth.

    Allen West: Negotiating With ‘Marxist, Socialist, Rigid Ideologue’ Barack Obama Is ‘Silly’!

  14. Bridgette? what happened 2 the Video above with the gal reporting..?
    Now it’s pp Simmons… it’s OK but where did HER TAPE GO? it’s a 10 !

  15. Michael Moore calls for ‘revolt’ after Michigan passes ‘Right to Work’ laws
    December 7, 2012

    Liberal filmmaker Michael Moore reacted angrily today after news broke that his native state of Michigan passed ‘Right-to-Work’ laws.

    The Michigan House and Senate each passed bills to give private and public sector workers the right to avoid paying union dues in an organized workplace. According to state procedural rules, the legislation must wait five days before it can advance.
    Moore appeared shocked that state Republicans still had power in Michigan – even though President Obama won the state by 10 points. [How did he win Michael?]

    • Finally, my home state is coming to their senses! They have told the Teamsters and other unions like SEIU to stick it where the sun don’t shine. I watched the union members taking over the capitol and beating on the walls in the rotunda on the news. The sound inside with the high ceilings would have sounded like thunder. They didn’t get to occupy it like they did in Wisconsin.

      Michigan has been devastated by the economy and the unions. About time they took some action. I heard the Republican governor last night say he was following what Indiana did to turn their state around. They are also dealing with Detroit. Detroit has 30 days to take some positive action, or the state is calling in an Emergency Management team. Detroit is on the verge of bankruptcy, and yet those managing are saying, Obama we voted for you, now bail us out.

      The democrats have run the city and state into the ground just like they have done to other major cities. Hey Michael, redistribute your wealth and send it all back to Flint! They need it. The people are tapped out. Friends of mine worked for GM and lost their 25 yr pensions under Obama with his taking over GM. They were wiped out. If that judge deems the bankruptcy unconstitutional, they might get it back. I see a class action suit could be initiated and it might be against the government instead of GM. I supported GM autos all my life like most people in Michigan, and when Obama took over GM, I refused to buy another one.

      • This woman wants to punish her state and expects to run for governor? No doubt any state that opposes Obama gets punished, ask Arizona. The unions lose money in their coffers, and that is why they are upset. Michigan unions can’t supply the cash to vote for the Democrats. Now the people can either choose to be in the union or not. We won’t hear much about the broken knee caps, but it will happen. The thugs are not going to give up that easily. Those opting out of the unions will now have more money in their pockets.

        Dems to Obama: Punish Michigan over labor vote
        Want federal money held back after state legislature approves ‘right to work’
        Dec. 8 Snip

        (Lansing, MI) A top Michigan Democrat is looking to President Obama to deliver retribution to Republicans after the GOP-dominated state legislature approved a package of bills that could make this stronghold of union power the nation’s 24th right-to-work state as early as next week.

        Senate Democratic Leader Gretchen Whitmer, who on Thursday called the votes to approve the right-to-work measure “petty and vindictive politics,” sparked more backlash Friday when she said she wants the president, who is set to visit Detroit on a previously scheduled political trip on Monday, to push back on Republican Gov. Rick Snyder by holding back federal money for a new international bridge project to Canada and a badly needed mass-transit program in ailing Detroit.
        Police arrested a handful of demonstrators inside the building and used pepper spray on protesters who tried to break into the Senate chamber during the debate. State and national labor leaders angrily condemned the move, which carries tremendous symbolic impact in a state with a long history of union activism.

  16. Has anyone read about Michelle wanting to follow in Hillary’s footsteps and run for office in Illinois after her stint as first lady of a usurper?

    • I wish she would run for something in Illinois and get out of washington as fast as her fat —- thunder thighs can take her. Chicago can’t do much worse whether she’s there or not. Let Chicago pay for her shopping sprees and hairdo’s and those under the bust belts. Maybe she’ll get all those thugs Obama created with school initiatives with Bill Ayers, to start eating less and put them on a healthy diet of Garden Vegies at her house in CHicago. For the second time in her life maybe she could be proud if she couled slam a few drugged out community organized, food stamper, baby killer bad asses from the hood. I know she’s got it in her. I know she could wrestle a few senators and come out on top. She’s probably been sizing em up already.

  17. B …. don’t get me started…. I hoped it went bye bye.

  18. B …. Thanks, that IS the one…. What do we do with a non-pres.?
    Impeachment??? Resignation??? Do watch IT!!!

  19. For the very 1ST time in “my (ADULT) life”.. (where did we hear that one before) Stateman Ship to the ( OUR ) White House! … just 2 funny…
    & the newest Globe/National Enquirer/or the other one ? tells about where/how MO & BO met & more on V Jarrett .. J Jackson .. J Wright
    I need to write it down… get back with it…

  20. might this be true??? BO Preparing…? to Leave the usurper~ship??
    do look on the front page of postemail…. are things happening??

    • The first paragraph of Post and Email. It is from August, 2012

      Obama is Preparing to Leave the Presidency
      Has Obama created another Watergate?
      August 17, 2012

      Fred Brownbill of the Save America Foundation claims that 80 countries have signed a criminal complaint against Barack Hussein Obama and filed it in the World Court. Brownbill states that the complaint is one of four matters which will cause Obama to resign.

      The article at P & E is based on this one below. Note the information gives no citations as to where the writer got the information. It is a snip of the article there. I found many picked up this news, but no one knows where it originated, perhaps from the White Hats.

      Watergate revisited?
      By Fred Brownbill on August 17, 2012 in Constitution Legal Watch

      Second, the elite crew in the White House has a bigger problem with the international community that has clearly had enough with the greed, corruption, financial terrorism and Nazi agenda. This has been addressed with 80 some nations signing an official criminal complaint against Obama personally in The World Court … and personally against Biden, Reid, Pelosi and Michelle Obama. More to come on the criminal charges, just know it has happened and it is slowly progressing through the process. In short, the world is officially done with American Leadership, and as Americans can’t control their own house, the international community is taking matters into their own hands. A rogue American resident with a narcissistic agenda and controlled by the New World Order is the directed cause. How can the world know this and our own American leadership not? This leads us to the next item.

  21. Latest hell for ex-U.S. Marine: Chained to bed in Mexican jail
    By Tim Johnson
    Dec. 6, 2012 – 11:38 am snip

    The reason might seem ludicrous. Hammar took a six-decade-old shotgun into Mexico. The .410 bore Sears & Roebuck shotgun once belonged to his great-grandfather. The firearm had been handed down through the generations, and it had become almost a part of Hammar, suitable for shooting birds and rabbits.

    But Mexican prosecutors who looked at the disassembled relic in the 1972 Winnebago motor home dismissed the U.S. registration papers Hammar had filled out. They charged him with a serious crime: possession of a weapon restricted for use to Mexico’s armed forces.
    “His family has described a very disturbing situation that includes their son being chained to a bed in a very small cell and receiving calls from fellow inmates threatening his life if they did not send them money,” Ros-Lehtinen said. “The family also says that the jail where their son is being held is controlled by the dreaded and brutal Zetas drug cartel. The family wants their son back home, and I will do my best to help them.”

    • Just one more example of the hypocrisy of the Mexican government. Compare what they expect us to do about their illegal aliens in our country versus how they treat illegal aliens in their own country.

  22. Communists hail more power for the dictator. It will make it far Easier to destroy the US economy.

    Obama’s Power Grab
    December 7, 2012 Snip

    President Obama went over the constitutional cliff this week, demanding more power than the U.S. Constitution allows any president to have. All Americans — regardless of party affiliation — should shudder at the president’s attempted power grab and say no. Compromising on taxes and spending is fine, but not on the nation’s bedrock principles.

    To avert the so-called fiscal cliff on Jan. 1, 2013, Obama is insisting that House Republicans hand over to him Congress’s authority to raise the debt ceiling. Obama is demanding a power no other president has ever had — to borrow without congressional prior approval. Under Obama’s scheme, Congress would have to muster a veto-proof 2/3 majority in each house, an unlikely feat, to stop the borrowing. Obama’s demand would put him in the driver’s seat (instead of Congress) with no speed limit.

    All 43 presidents before Barack Obama had to get Congress’s approval. There’s a reason. When government borrows, We the People have to pay it back. Allowing a president to borrow without Congress’s consent would be no different from allowing a president to tax us without Congress’s consent. The Constitution’s framers saw that in Europe, monarchs borrowed and spent to aggrandize their own power, dooming the populace to repay the debt.

    To prevent that, the framers allowed only Congress, the branch of government closest to the people, to borrow. (Article 1, Sect. 8). Obama’s audacious proposal violates that provision. Yet he doubled down on it on Dec. 5, telling the Business Roundtable that negotiating with Congress “is not a game I will play.” Sorry, Mr. President, but negotiating with Congress is precisely what the Constitution requires you to do.

    • And the way things have been going for the past 4 years, it would not surprise me to see them do it. Or maybe they’ll figure out a way to fix the voting machines in the House, too.

  23. It is beyond insane, it is comical. This way they can keep on spending. Problem solved. A game of monopoly played before our eyes.
    Insane: Liberals Contemplate $1 Trillion Platinum Coin to “Solve” Debt Limit Issue
    Townhall ^ | 12/08/2012 | Guy Benson
    Saturday, December 08, 2012 12:32:31 PM by SeekAndFind Snip

    Welcome to Zimbabwe. This is not a parody — it is an actual report from the Washington Post: Some economists and legal scholars have suggested that the “platinum coin option” is one way to defuse a crisis if Congress can’t or won’t lift the debt ceiling soon. At least in theory. The U.S. government is, after all, facing a real problem. The Treasury Department will hit its $16.4 trillion borrowing limit by next February at the latest. Unless Congress reaches an agreement to raise that borrowing limit, the government will no longer be able to borrow enough money to pay all its bills. Last year, Republicans in Congress resisted lifting the debt ceiling until the last minute — and then only in exchange for spending cuts. Panic ensued.

    So what happens if there’s another showdown this year? Enter the platinum coins. Thanks to an odd loophole in current law, the U.S. Treasury is technically allowed to mint as many coins made of platinum as it wants and can assign them whatever value it pleases. Under this scenario, the U.S. Mint would produce (say) a pair of trillion-dollar platinum coins. The president orders the coins to be deposited at the Federal Reserve. The Fed then moves this money into Treasury’s accounts. And just like that, Treasury suddenly has an extra $2 trillion to pay off its obligations for the next two years — without needing to issue new debt. The ceiling is no longer an issue.

    • No doubt they’ve already vetted this with the media (Washington Post) and this is a trial balloon and already they are putting out the talking points to the JournOlist so that they will all say, “Those intransigent Republicans MADE him do it.”

  24. Now They Tell Us
    The economy never really got better, and now it’s getting worse.
    December 8, 2012

    Now that Barack Obama is safely ensconced in the White House for another four years, several items which should have been noticed or revealed before Election Day have come to the fore. Collectively, they tell us two things: that the pre-election economy was worse than voters were led to believe, and that the prospects for meaningful improvement under the current regime are bleak at best. Additionally, in at least one instance, economic activity itself was likely manipulated.

  25. Oh sure, it is FOX not the Communist residing in the WH and his comrades!

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr: Fox News Has Divided America In a Way Not Seen Since the Civil War
    Nov. 8

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr said of Fox News Friday, “It’s divided our country in a way that we haven’t been divided probably since the Civil War.” This occurred during an online video interview with the Huffington Post (video follows with transcript and commentary):

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR: There’s two things happening. One is the influence of big money in politics, and the other is the right-wing control of the American media, particularly starting with Fox News. 95 percent of talk radio in our country is right-wing, and you need, according to Pew survey, and you, so a whole section of our country that that’s what they’re hearing. They wake up in the morning, when they go to bed at night.

  26. Welcome these people to the Obama unemployment lines – I hope they enjoy what they helped create. Do you think they would vote for Obama now? Two hits at once, Daily Beast and Newsweek! I think the Old Gray Lady (NT Slime) recently laid off employees too – trying to save its progressive a@@. Happy Holidays Commies!

    Newsweek Lays Off Dozens, Just in Time for Christmas
    By Randy Hall | December 07, 2012 Snip

    Things have really come full circle for the perpetually troubled liberal magazine Newsweek, since it infamously smeared Newt Gingrich on its cover as “the Gingrich who stole Christmas.” Eighteen years later, Newsweek is literally doing that to more than 50 employees it fired on Friday.

    The pink-slipped staff for the Newsweek/Daily Beast Company received a letter from Editor-in-Chief Tina Brown and Chief Executive Officer Baba Shetty on Friday that can be summed up in four words: “Happy holidays. You’re fired.”
    For the past several years, the magazine has remained in the public eye through its desperately controversial covers, including one that asked “Why Are Obama’s Critics So Dumb?” back in January; another that declared Obama the “First Gay President” in May; and a recent edition that compared the president to Napoleon Bonaparte while lambasting the GOP as ‘Old,’ ‘White,’ and ‘History’.

  27. Could we find them? Could they handle the onslaught from the Communist Left?

    Forget Tea Party Candidates, We Need Birther Candidates
    December 08, 2012 by kreitzer

    The GOP-e was shaken by the Tea Partyers a couple years back, but fought back and succeeded in pushing the Tea Partyers/Palin backers out of the convention and nominating their man Romney. But the Tea Partyers had some success, like Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. Who’s to say a few well placed Birther candidates couldn’t have some success? If we could field a few Birther candidates who promise to make the ineligibility of the current Commander-in-Chief a central issue, even if only one of them gets through the system it will be a 100% gain for conservatives. Simply focus on what the Founders meant by the term ‘natural born citizen.‘ They would have to primary in Republican races in deep red districts to have a chance. This is achievable and 2014 will be here soon. I know I would donate to that candidate. It’s time to start now!

  28. Spinelessness: The Deadly Scourge Of Washington
    December 8, 2012 Snip

    Boehner appears to be suffering from a disorder called Spinelessness. Those afflicted with this malady are often unable to perform certain duties such as standing upright in the face of adversity. Symptoms left untreated may cause these individuals to become confused, insecure, and afraid. As time passes, patients exhibit outlandish behavior by becoming harsh and critical towards those providing support and care instead of questioning the motives of their adversary. In extreme cases, the patient completely loses the ability to hear clear directives coming from the people who care about his or her well-being. Instead, the patient scrambles for whatever remedy is offered quickly in hopes of finding immediate relief from the ailment. Unfortunately, the quick relief offered by the competition is typically transitional; and by the time the patient realizes their predicament, it is often too late. Although Spinelessness is highly contagious and spreads quickly, if caught early enough, the patient has a chance of survival. To be sure, the only known cure for this insufferable disorder is a heavy dose of principles and plenty of faith to glug it down daily.

  29. This is cute.

    Twas The Night Before Christmas (Anti-Obama Version)
    December 8, 2012 snip

    Twas the night before Christmas, all thru the White House
    Obama sat stirring , with J. Biden the mouse
    Golf stockings were hung, by the chimmney with care
    In hopes the Tea Party wouldn’t notice them there

    The children were nestled all snug in King beds
    While visions of Maui still danced in there heads
    With Michelle in her pj’s, and I in my cap
    We just counted money, and settled down for a nap

    • “‘Gangnam Style’ Singer Sang Anti-American Lyrics, Slated to Perform Before Obama Dec. 21”

      The singer of “Gangnam Style,” who is slated to perform before President Barack Obama December 21 during the annual “Christmas in Washington” concert, participated in an anti-American rally and concert in South Korea in 2004 in which he rapped lyrics that wished for the “daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law, and fathers” of “f***ing Yankees” and U.S. troops associated with torturing Iraqis to be killed “slowly and painfully.”

      PSY, whose real name is Park Jae-sang, participated in another anti-American demonstration and concert in 2002 in which he slammed a mock-up of an American tank on stage and smashed it to pieces. PSY was protesting the Status of Forces Agreement that prevented American soldiers who accidentally ran over and killed two South Korean civilians from being tried in South Korea’s courts.

      These incidents occurred before PSY gained worldwide fame with “Gangnam Style,” the dance song and video that is the most watched YouTube video in history and one of the most downloaded songs ever.

      In 2004, after Islamic radicals captured and beheaded a South Korean missionary, PSY used this opportunity to condemn the terrorists and South Korea’s president. But he saved his harshest vitriol for America’s troops and military bases, according to a report in HAPS, an English-language Korean magazine.”

      Nevertheless, as of this moment, the show will go on and Barry will attend. btw, I didn’t know this before, but the purpose of Gangnam is to ridicule the 1% (rich yuppies who live a lifestyle in Gangnam similar to that of Beverly Hills, CA), which is probably why Barry likes it, although if anybody exhibits Gangnam Style it’s Barry (and his Mooch).

      “The emphasis on heavy spending, coupled with the country’s truly astounding, two-generation growth from agrarian poverty to economic powerhouse, have engendered the country with an emphasis on hard work and on aspirationalism, as well as the materialism that can sometimes follow.

      Gangnam, Hong said, is a symbol of that aspect of South Korean culture. The neighborhood is the home of some of South Korea’s biggest brands, as well as $84 billion of its wealth, as of 2010. That’s seven percent of the entire country’s GDP in an area of just 15 square miles. A place of the most conspicuous consumption, you might call it the embodiment of South Korea’s one percent. “The neighborhood in Gangnam is not just a nice town or nice neighborhood. The kids that he’s talking about are not Silicon Valley self-made millionaires. They’re overwhelmingly trust-fund babies and princelings,” he explained.”

      Princelings like Barry, but I’m sure he likes the anti-capitalist message more and doesn’t appreciate the irony. He’s not one for introspection or self-awareness. The Emperor’s New Clothes would go right over Barry’s head. He’s being skewered, too, but he’d never see that.

      “”I think it all ties back to the same thing: the pursuit of materialism, the pursuit of form over function,” [Adrian Hong, a Korean-American consultant] said. “Koreans made extraordinary gains as a country, in terms of GDP and everything else, but that growth has not been equitable. I think the young people are finally realizing that. There’s a genuine backlash. … You’re seeing a huge amount of resentment from youth about their economic circumstances.” Even if Psy wasn’t specifically nodding to this when he wrote the song and shot the video, it’s part of the contemporary South Korean society that he inhabits. “The context is all of these tensions going on where Koreans are realizing where they’re at, how they got there, what they need to do to move FORWARD.” [emphasis added, of course]

      It’s difficult to imagine that much of this could be apparent to non-Koreans, which [U.S.-based Korean blogger Jea] Kim told me is why she decided to write it up on her blog. “I thought people outside Korea might take it just as another funny music video. So I wanted to explain what’s behind [it] and the song.””

      Interesting that Psy is yet another WEALTHY capitalist, who is cashing in mightily, making his millions pretending to be one of the little people. His purpose is to ridicule those who also aspire to wealth. Now what would be the alternative? Why, socialism, I’m sure! (But NOT for guys like Psy and Barry. They would, of course, be among the “Party elite”, as in Soviet Russia.)

      Wealth redistribution and income equality. No wonder Barry likes him. It’s outrageous that even after Psy’s anti-American past came to light, he’s still going to appear.

      It’s probably no coincidence that Psy was selected this year, after Romney’s defeat. Is the choice of Psy a slam at the Romneys? How so? Well, the dance Psy does is intended to mimic the “horse riding set”, akin to Mrs. Romney’s hobby.

      • These stories are related to the above. First this:

        “Forbes Richest Musicians List Features Occupy-Loving Artists”

        Several supporters of Occupy Wall Street probably won’t see the irony in their appearance on Forbes magazine’s latest list.

        The business publication just released a countdown of the world’s 25 highest paid musicians, and four of the artists spent time singing the praises of the hard-left, rich-bashing movement.

        Jay-Z, whose personal net worth is currently $475 million according to Celebrity Net Worth, was one of the most outspoken for the OWS movement and sold shirts to the Occupiers without sharing his profits. In Sept. 2012, however, Jay-Z took back his support for OWS in order to promote capitalism….

        No. 22, rapper Kanye West, showed up to Occupy protest wearing gold chains. His personal net worth is currently $90 million, and made $35 million and his music often embraces an over-the-top lavish and luxurious lifestyle.

        Pop singer Katy Perry was also on the Forbes list at No. 15, making $45 million for the year. Her personal net worth is currently at $55 million. In Oct. 2011, Perry visited the OWS encampment with then-husband Russell Brand and Russell Simmons while promoting it on her twitter….

        Former lead singer for Pink Floyd Roger Waters made $88 million, getting him the No. 2 spot on the Forbes list.”

        Now this:
        “Omerica: Millennials Won’t Buy Cars, Homes, Steaks”

        “BuzzFeed recently compiled a list of things Millennials, those who are 18-30 years of age, have been accused of supposedly ruining, and some the findings show how bleak the Obama economy has been for young people. Young people in Obama’s economy are eating out less, not buying cars or homes, and are even intimidated by steaks.”

        They probably don’t see the irony, either. They put Barry in office and as a result, they’re POOR. How’s that income equality working out for you OWS lovers? The Buzzfeed article, cited in the above story, is good, too:

        “9 Things Millennials Were Accused Of Ruining In 2012”

        They are: The auto industry, the housing market, restaurants, the Capitol, marriage, the military, independent thinking [good one!], the beef industry, and the environment.

  30. Happy Hanukkah to all celebrating the festival of lights! 🙂

  31. Name a communist or socialist country where the people are free and happy – do you know of one? This comment posted by Bob Strauss at Citizen Wells should be read by all to see the parallels to what we are up against and what the Radical Left and Obama are trying to do to our country. Austrians were fed a bill of goods by the Nazi’s and so are our US citizens being taken down the primrose path like the promises of the Nazi’s.

    From commenter bob strauss November 8, 2012.
    “Kitty Werthmann is 85 years old. This is a SCARY piece of HISTORY. Read & perhaps learn something new from HISTORY and “CHANGE”. America truly is the Greatest Country in the World. By: Kitty Werthmann

    What I am about to tell you is something you’ve probably never heard or will ever read in history books. I believe that I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected him by a landslide – 98% of the vote.. I’ve never read that in any American publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force. In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan interest rates. Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they didn’t want to work; there simply weren’t any jobs….

  32. Jamie Foxx does it again. At about 1:46 into the clip:
    “I got a new movie coming out ‘Django Unchained’. And in the movie I got to wear chains. But don’t be worried about it because in the movie I get out of the chains. I get free. I save my wife and I kill all the white people in the room. How great is that?” The audience seemed to love it. He goes on to say that Obama is going to be “extra black” over the next four years.

  33. Will the next study show HOW the democrats managed to get 140% vote for Obama? Were the Black Panthers Standing over the voters? Were the busloads of unregistered illegal voters who couldn’t speak English nor write it, given pre-punched ballots? Turning people against religion especially Christianity is one of the Communist goals. It is a goal they share in common with the Islamic terrorists, Muslims.

    Study: Obama Won Swing States Thanks to Irreligious Voters
    9 Dec 2012, 8:33 AM Snip

    According to new studies, President Obama’s electoral victory in the 2012 election cycle was greatly helped by his massive victory with a previously unnoticed voting bloc: the irreligious.
    The irreligious voters said their top priorities were same-sex marriage and abortion. It was no coincidence when the Democratic Party tried to remove God from the platform – and it didn’t hurt them overall.

  34. Was he on Obama’s Kill List? Is he going to take another victory lap to show he is the leader? al-HUSSAINan is an interesting last name.

    Pakistan: US Drone Kills Senior al-Qaeda Leader
    Dec 9, 2012 – AP

    Pakistani intelligence officials say a U.S. drone strike has killed a senior al-Qaida leader near the Afghan border. The three [anonymous] officials say Sheikh Khalid bin Abdel Rehman al-Hussainan, also known as Abu Zaid al-Kuwaiti, died Thursday when missiles hit a house near the town of Mir Ali in Pakistan’s North Waziristan tribal area.
    The officials say al-Kuwaiti was buried near Mir Ali on Friday.–US-drone-kills-senior-al-Qaida-leader

  35. Progressive Media Fear Exclusion at Second Obama Inauguration
    8 Dec 2012

    Progressive journalists are worried that Barack Obama is going to cut them out from his second swearing-in ceremony. As Politico reports, rumors abound that this time ’round Obama is going to hold a private ceremony, one not open to the media.
    Even more hurtful to the media, the press would be handed official White House photographs of the incident should they be excluded.

    • Secretive? Without Media? How is this different from 2008? Ohhh, it was the second time that was secret where the Chief Justice gave him the oath then…speculation was his hand was on the Koran. Imagine that, he is dissing his most ardent supporters – his compliant propaganda machinery. We can then believe that he was given the oath, but perhaps not know that he refused to say the part in the oath that says he will uphold the Constitution. You know the one, that old, filled with flaws, Constitution that the wise usurper ignores at will.

    • Would this be the one on Sunday, with Roberts, in secret? AGAIN? What a surprise! Yeah. Like he’s really going to allow the media to record him swearing on a koran under his real name. 🙂

      Why the heck would Chuck Todd be “stunned”? Oh, yeah. Unlike all of us here, he’s got his head so far up somebody’s rear that he didn’t notice all the lies, obfuscations, power grabs, illegal and unconstitutional acts over the last four years. Didn’t he think that the LAST double swearing in was odd? We did. I’m telling you. If they cave and do allow the media in on Sunday, there will be yet another one with Roberts, probably in a closet somewhere.

      • Most CERTAINLY, if this is the “one that counts” then the media should be present. How else would we even know that he was sworn in? Are we supposed to take his word for it or Roberts’s? Not only the “media”, but We the People should be present, if possible. I want a live feed and we need at the least Lester Kinsolving there, but preferably John Nolte, Breitbart’s media watchdog. We also need Sheriff Joe Arpaio there!

        It’s amazing to me that this doesn’t cause bells to ring in their little pea brains. How else do they explain this? Is it a surprise to us? NOPE. What ELSE would we expect? Secrecy and non-transparency. Reagan was sworn in on a Sunday, too, but he had the media present. You know what? Why don’t people like Chuck think about this: “The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth, are people with something to hide!” per Barack Hussein Obama himself.

        What’s he hiding, Chuck? Do you want to know? Can YOU, Chuck, think of any reason WHY he wants to exclude everyone from his oath, AGAIN? Other than that he’s using another legal name OR he’s using another “holy” book? What’s going on? Can you even ask, please? While you’re at it, can you join us in asking him to PROVE his eligibility to take the damned oath in the first place? His credentials are something else that OUGHT TO BE for the “public” and so should be PUBLIC. Where’s the BIRTH CERTIFICATE? Can you ask him for that, too, Chuck?

        While we’re on that subject, I’m coining a word for these disappointed media people who wonder why Barry won’t allow them at his real Inauguration: Inaugurationers! What? Do they believe in some kind of “conspiracy theory?”

        • I bet they capitulate by having selected pool reporters there. Like Savannah Guthrie and other totally in the tank, complicit media people–like anybody who pretends they actually saw his birth certificate. How about FactCheck? OMG, I can see it now. Just like his LFCOLB roll out–no cameras, no audio! They were punked with the LFCOLB, will they EVER WAKE UP?

          Why negotiations? Here you go! It’s right in the Politico story,

          At a minimum, it should be a pooled event.” CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?!!!!!

          More from that story: “Obama’s “second inauguration” in 2009 was not so public. Though Jan. 20 did not fall on a Sunday four years ago, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and President Obama stumbled through the public swearing-in and had to hold a second, private swearing-in the following day. White House aides initially told reporters there would be no second swearing-in, but changed their mind at the last minute. Only four reporters were allowed to attend. Rather than let photographers or television cameras in, the White House provided a photo from the White House photographer.

          Despite promising to be the most transparent administration in history, full press access was not provided at the dawn of Obama’s first term.”


          I’m still betting on Savannah!

          So if there’s AGAIN no video, then this will be the second “real” oath he allegedly took and there’s nothing for the national archives. Riddle me this: Is there some religion that is opposed to sworn oaths?

  36. since we didn’t see it how do we know for sure he took the oath? 👿

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