Tarmac of the Living Dead; the Soulless Obama Administration

© Miri WTPOTUS October 26, 2012

So I’m listening to Glenn Beck this morning and he tells us to tweet, email, Facebook, and forward this story far and wide, but especially to friends in swing states.  Charles Woods, the father of Tyrone Woods, who was killed in Benghazi, has spoken out.  He is from the last family to speak.  We’ve already heard from the families of Glen Doherty, Chris Stevens, and Sean Smith.  All, in so many words, indicated the same thing:  They were misled about, misinformed about,  lied to, or simply not told by this administration exactly how their loved ones died.

Today, Glenn Beck told us that Mr. Woods spoke out only after hearing the truth: that the leaders in the Barack Hussein Obama administration (Obama, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey, General Carter F. Ham, among others) chose to send no help to his son, even though some of them watched the attack happen “in real time” via video feed.  No help, although military assets were in place that might have saved his son’s life.

They denied the pleas for help and they watched my son die.

Obama, when he spoke to Mr. Woods after they greeted the coffins carrying the brave Americans who were slain by terrorists in Libya, could not or would not look him in the eye.  Obama did not seem genuine, not as if he truly cared about Mr. Woods’s loss.  Mr. Woods was an administrative judge before retirement–someone, he said, who is trained by experience to know when people are lying.  His judgment?  Obama was lying.

When he finally came over to where we were, I could tell that he was rather conflicted, a person who was not at peace with himself,” Woods said. “Shaking hands with him, quite frankly, was like shaking hands with a dead fish. His face was pointed towards me but he would not look me in the eye, his eyes were over my shoulder.”

“I could tell that he was not sorry,” he added. “He had no remorse.”

Joe Biden, when he spoke to Mr. Woods, came up to him with an inappropriate, jovial demeanor, considering the ceremony that took place, and asked him:

Did your son always have balls the size of cue balls?

Finally, Hillary Clinton said her piece.  Considering the events of the weeks since, where information has dribbled slowly out that puts the LIE to the “narrative” being told to the FAMILIES OF THE DECEASED as well as to us, the People of the USA, this is a blockbuster of a statement by Clinton:

After apologizing for his loss, Woods said Clinton told him that the U.S. would “make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted.

Obviously, Clinton was referring to the anti-Muslim YouTube video that the Obama administration spent nearly two weeks blaming for the attack. … 

“When she said that, I could tell that she was not telling me the truth,” Woods said about Clinton.

For what crime, exactly, would Clinton and the Obama Justice Dept. (ineptly led by Eric Holder) prosecute the maker of the video (seen by only 17 people worldwide at the time of the attack)?  We have this thing called the First Amendment that protects free speech.

We do know, however, that the filmmaker was arrested, allegedly for parole violation, and he’s not been in the news since.  Disappeared?  Who was he really and why did he make that film that nobody saw, anyway?

There is video of Mr. Woods at the Glenn Beck link.   Mr. Woods made this public statement:

I want to honor my son, Ty Woods, who responded to the cries for help and voluntarily sacrificed his life to protect the lives of other Americans. In the last few days it has become public knowledge that within minutes of the first bullet being fired the White House knew these heroes would be slaughtered if immediate air support was denied. Apparently, C-130s were ready to respond immediately. In less than an hour, the perimeters could have been secured and American lives could have been saved. After seven hours fighting numerically superior forces, my son’s life was sacrificed because of the White House’s decision. This has nothing to do with politics, this has to do with integrity and honor. My son was a true American hero. We need more heroes today. My son showed moral courage. This is an opportunity for the person or persons who made the decision to sacrifice my son’s life to stand up.

These three apparently soulless individuals, Obama, Biden, Clinton, are like the zombies portrayed in The Walking Dead.  Is this how human beings comfort the families of heroes who gave their lives for their country? These three “leaders” represent We the People of the United States of America and this is how they comfort the families of the fallen–with indifference, buffoonery, and lies.

This is an unprecedented scandal; it remains beyond comprehension that the mainstream media continue to ignore it.

People died; Obama lied. 

WHY?  We do not have answers yet as to why they made the deliberate decision not to send at least air support to help save the lives of our people.  The two SEALS, Doherty and Woods, were not in Benghazi as security. They were elsewhere when the call for help went out.  They heard the call and traveled to the consulate from the safe house/annex in order to fight to try to save the lives of those under attack by Al Qaeda-associated terrorists.  Because there was no other aid dispatched, those two brave men lost their lives in a fire fight that took place hours after Obama and Panetta met to discuss what to do.  Then Obama blithely went to sleep, got up, and went to Las Vegas on a campaign trip.  Soulless.

Today, it was announced that yet two more of our troops were killed by a so-called ally in an “insider attack.”  Why are our people in these Muslim countries, where they must “fight” with one hand tied behind their backs and where they do not have “permission” to defend themselves, because of agreements between the Obama administration and these quasi-Islamist governments?

What roles do CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood play in the military decisions being made by the Obama administration?

When will the Obama administration respond to Representative Michele Bachmann’s prescient questions about Muslim Brotherhood infiltration of our government, including how Huma Abedin, a Deputy Secretary of State who is like a daughter to Hillary Clinton, passed a background check, considering that her mother was a founding member of the Muslim Sisterhood?

Panetta crawled out from under his rock yesterday to claim that it’s standard policy not to put troops in harm’s way until there’s firm intel.

Yet drone strikes regularly take out terrorists, as the Obama administration is quick to boast. Military experts have stated that a flyover by a military jet might have scared off the attackers.  It would seem to have been the least they could have done: air support.  So asked about why air support wasn’t sent, Panetta shucks and jives with an answer about “forces”.  One assumes he’s speaking about ground forces and avoiding the topic of air support or drone strikes, which are regularly done with precision.

Is Panetta believable?  About as believable as Clinton and Obama.  Panetta was joined in his statement by Ham and Dempsey, who himself famously blamed our troops for those insider attacks, wherein the Afghans that our troops are training turn their weapons upon the trainers and shoot them dead in cold blood.  Cultural insensitivity on the part of  OUR troops was Dempsey’s explanation for this murderous Muslim  mendacity.

We the People demand answers. NOW. 

Not after the November election.


Breaking News Update 10/26/12 1:35 p.m.:  h/t Bridgette.  We now learn that Woods and Doherty asked three times for help but were told to “stand down” and not go to the aid of those at the consulate.  They went anyway:

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.” 

Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight. 

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied.


384 responses to “Tarmac of the Living Dead; the Soulless Obama Administration

  1. Rosemary Woodhouse

    But the MSM….. crickets.

  2. Moved from another thread because this deals with the article.

    Devastating Information is being reported on FOX.

    Breaking News: FOX reported about an hour ago that the men in Benghazi on the ground asked for help 3 times and were DENIED. CIA operators were told twice to “stand down” and not help ambassador’s team! Two of the American’s killed disobeyed orders and went in to save others and died. One was Tyrone Woods, and the other was Doherty. They are the heroes. Also, there were two unarmed drones recording what was happening. One flew for 2 1/2 hours and then another one went up. Inside the consulate there were 10 video cameras.

    Sec. of Defense, Panetta, Vice President Biden, and President Obama were meeting in the Oval office. Let heads roll!

    CIA Operators Were Denied Request for Help During the Benghazi Attack
    October 26, 2012

    “EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say”

    “Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. Consulate and subsequent attack several hours later was denied by U.S. officials — who also told the CIA operators twice to “stand down” rather than help the ambassador’s team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.


    • Brett Baier will host and update, “Special Report Investigates: Death and Deceit in Benghazi” They are including the newest breaking information. It will be on Fox News at 1 p.m. EST on Saturday, 3 p.m. on Sunday and 10 p.m. on Sunday.

    • OMG. Did they truly disobey the orders and go to help, anyway? They TRULY ARE AMERICAN HEROES. God bless their souls and comfort their families.

      WHY would they not only deny them air support but also ORDER those present to “stand down?”

      • think about this….The guy who did the video…they are going to hold til after election. There is no reason to hold this man, however , now if this dude ends up dead it will be the office of the Pres., sec Hillary, Un Ambassador’s fault. They are the ones that spread the video, not the guy who made it….
        Maybe the reason they are still going to hold him is he’s got a thing or two to tell the american people when and how they found out about his video .

    • TY. I updated the post with this astounding news. I stand in awe at the bravery of those men who did the right thing, sacrificing their lives for others in the true spirit of American heroes.

    • Western Journalism posted the FOX News Breaking Report video.

      CIA Operators Were Denied Request For Help During Benghazi Attack 3 Times
      October 26, 2012



      • This is heartbreaking to hear Tyrone Woods’s father speak of his son: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/father-of-slain-benghazi-seal-they-murdered-my-son-video/

        “I don’t know much about weapons but it’s coming out right now that they actually had laser focused on the mortars that were being sent to kill my son. And they refused to pull the trigger. They refused to send in those AC-130s. To me, I’m an attorney, this may not be the legal test of murder. But to me that is not only cowardice, but those people who made the decision and who knew about the decision and lied about it, are murderers of my son.“

        It brings tears to my eyes. Sincerely. God bless this man. He says he forgives them.

        • Think of Barry saying that Trayvon Martin could be “his son.” One thing I can say for CERTAIN, Tyrone Woods could NEVER be the son of the Obamas. NEVER. He’s a true American patriot and the son of a true American patriot and a true Christian man. Amazing man. No wonder his son did what he did.

  3. Please heed Glenn Beck’s call and spread this story far and wide, but especially to anybody you know who lives in the critical swing states. It continues to be beyond my comprehension that ANYONE who calls himself or herself an American can continue to support this administration after what happened in Benghazi.

  4. I actually saw a posting from someone defending Joe Biden’s comments…That’s just Joe being real, trying to lighten the mood, etc!
    Oh my god…I mean, I actually believe that is exactly what Joe Biden was trying to do, but that just makes him bats@#t crazy, and is NOT defensible.

    • He might have been drunk. I actually thought, of those three, that Biden would have some sensitivity. Mr. Woods also said that Biden referred to how he, himself, got one of those calls in the night. I suppose he was personalizing it again, bringing up the deaths in his own family. Lots of people are inept when faced with grieving families and don’t know what to say, or how. But this guy has made a career of talking and schmoozing. Surely he OUGHT TO KNOW how to console grieving people. There are better ways to say “your son’s an American hero.” They are like children. When will we have grownups in the WH again? I felt so sad when I saw Rumsfeld on Greta the other night. Despite it all, he was diplomatic. How he managed it, I don’t know, because knowing Rummy, you can imagine what’s going on in his head when he sees this train wreck. Our people dying and no help being forthcoming. So we don’t insult the Muslims.

      • It’s interesting that Mr. Woods’ account of Obama’s demeanor mirrors exactly what Sean Smith’s mother said about him looking off into the distance when he was “consoling” her.

        • Exactly. He’s a soulless creature. I remember that article I linked recently (but don’t remember what or by whom, just the gist of it). The writer was saying about Barry is the perfect communist/collectivist in that he doesn’t even see or recognize individuals. All he sees is the collective and the collective goals. Like the BORG of Star Trek fame. I swear, it rings so true. That’s what makes it so easy for them to sacrifice any individual and to say, “It’s not about you.” The only individual that matters in his universe is himself. He IS a blank slate. And empty vessel. A nothing.

      • Wasn’t it Mrs. Smith that also said that Panetta took her face in his hands and said they would get the people responsible. She said she knew he didn’t mean it. She said she cried on Obama’s shoulder and he was cold.

        All of their reactions are those of people feeling guilt – if any of them feel that emotion. When behavior is odd, people pick it up.

        • Yes, I think it was. I linked two different stories about her. Click on Sean and then on Smith. It’s probably in one or the other. I remember her saying that about crying on Obama’s shoulder and how cold he was. He IS cold and it’s part of his diagnosis, but there’s more to it: He doesn’t have any feeling for the imperialist forces of oppression and that would be our troops. Think about how there have been three times as many deaths under Obama than all the years of the Afghan war before he came into office. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/09/11/Mainstream-Media-Ignoring-Increase-In-Deaths-Wounded-In-Afghanistan-Under-Obama Why are they there to be sitting ducks for Muslims to murder?

          • Maybe he was angry at Tyrone Woods for having the gall to disobey his orders to stand down, so that was reflected in his behavior towards his father. I can understand that. He does not like to be opposed, defied, or disobeyed. Their actions were not part of the “plan” which just may have been something along the lines of what we heard about an October surprise to make Obama look the statesman and to give them an excuse to trade the Blind Sheikh for hostages. I hope this means that the troops and the intelligence people are whistle blowing. They’d better or they may end up with another four years of this mendacity.

  5. You know, the story could be coming out and maybe it’s Clinton leaking it, but there’s no explanation other than BEING COMPLICIT IN THE LIE, for why Hillary told Mr. Woods that the video was to blame for his son’s death, knowing what she knew when she told him that. There’s NO WAY she did not know that Panetta and Obama decided to send no help and that the CIA was told to “stand down”. No way. Tyrone Woods died; Clinton lied.

  6. As this news is hitting…where is the administration and especially Obama? Will they have a press conference or keep up the lies? They are caught – their web of lies and incompetence and what one of the FOX commentators (Nash) said, this screams of MALFEASANCE. I call it treason.

    The parents of two men should be proud of their sons. Now they know what really happened as the truth is being revealed. Their sons did what they were trained to do and went to save others and instead lost their lives. They disobeyed their superiors in acts of courage while the cowards in the Oval office did nothing.

    There is another story behind this story, and it has to deal with why Stevens was meeting with the Turkish prime minister an hour before the attack. Stevens walked him out the main gate and shortly thereafter the attack began. What does Turkey have to do with this story? Was this an arms deal? Was the White House secretly arming the Syrian rebels through Turkey? Is that why they didn’t send help to cover up what they were doing?

    • It is so beyond horrific to imagine those people in the annex, waiting for the help that never came. They had a bead on the mortar that eventually KILLED Woods and Doherty. They were crying out the coordinates to the gunship that NEVER CAME. Had it come or had an armed drone or even a missile been sent, the mortar and its crew could have been destroyed and our men would still be alive.

      • “The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi’s fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces.”

        That’s from the FOX story. You can read between the lines. REPURCHASE? That implies a previous SALE. When did we ever hear that they captured attackers and were “forced” to hand them off to the Libyans? Forced by whom? So the Libyan militia arrived with gun trucks at 2 a.m. but the mortar that killed the SEALS was fired an hour later. What did the Libyan militia do? Twiddle their thumbs or were they also “standing down?”

    • In a word: YES.

  7. Obama said in an radio interview this morning that he was not personally aware of the requests to increase security prior to the attack per Megan Kelly.

    • Ruemmler’s office? She’s the successor to Robert Bauer, who ran interference for Barry on the birth certificate issue.

  8. The lamestream media are so corrupt, so heartless, so without morality and ethics that there is NOT ONE story out there EXCEPT for FOX NEWS. NONE. It’s a non-story when the father of a fallen hero calls out three of the most powerful people in this country and basically calls them liars. They won’t touch this with a ten-foot pole because the only way out for Barry and company is to call Mr. Woods a liar. It’s bad enough that they have treated these families so despicably, now we have to watch the media IGNORE them and their pain, too. All for politics. If Obama gets another term, all is lost. There will be no freedom. They will get rid of FOX News. They will censor and control the internet and then all will be as they want it to be. The lamestream, complicit to the end, will not know what hit them when they suddenly find that they’ve come for them, too.

  9. Oh, wait, wait, wait! Jake Tapper (who else) comes through. It was buried in the search results, of course:

    “Charles Woods, the grieving father of one of the security officials killed in the terrorist attack on the U.S diplomatic outpost in Benghazi, Libya – former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods – called into conservative media outlets this week, offering some unflattering descriptions of his interactions with the president and top officials of his administration. …

    White House officials declined to comment on Woods’ description of his interactions with the president and vice president. State Department Deputy Spokesperson, Mark Toner said in a statement, “Since the moment they were first given the terrible news of their loss, through that very difficult day when they witnessed the return of the remains of their loved ones, and every day since, the families of those killed have been a top priority of the Department. Everything is being done to bring to justice those responsible for their deaths.” [Everything is being done by the blogosphere and the alternative media to bring to justice THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR DEATHS. And that would be the persons who made the call to provide inadequate security and to refuse to send aid to a besieged embassy.]

    The grieving father of Tyrone Woods illustrates in many ways the confusion that remains about that night, and the Obama administration’s inability, thus far, to provide a comprehensive and definitive timeline about what happened six weeks ago.

    Woods also repeated a version of events that the White House says is not accurate, that “the White House Situation Room was watching our people die in real time, as this was happening.”

    White House officials say there was no video stream available. [It’s been destroyed. You think not?] So what kind of real-time information was coming in? State Department official Charlene Lamb testified before Congress that officials in the consulate “were making multiple phone calls and it was very important that they communicate with the annex in Tripoli because this is where additional resources were coming from. [But wait! We’re now told that the CIA told them to stand down so there WERE no additional resources coming from anywhere.] So they would hang up on us and then call back.” A Defense Department official confirms that there an unarmed ISR (“intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance”) drone overhead over part of the assault in Benghazi.

    Woods also said, “apparently even the State Department had a live stream and was aware of their calls for help. My son wasn’t even there. He was at a safe house about a mile away. He got the distress call; he heard them crying for help; that’s why he and Glen risked their lives to go that extra mile just to take care of the situation. And I’m sure that wasn’t the only one received that distress call—you know, ‘Come save our lives.’””

    So apparently they ARE going to call Mr. Woods a liar, in so many words, they’re going to stonewall, they’re going to rope a dope, they’re going to dissemble and lie as liars do, running out the clock. Now “watched it happen in real time” doesn’t mean watched it happen in real time. Or maybe it’s just that they didn’t “watch them DIE”, but they watched what could be seen of the attack from the drone. Did not Lamb TESTIFY to video? I thought she did.

    So now video doesn’t mean video and it all depends upon what the meaning of DIE is. And I’m sure nobody was calling out coordinates for the location of the mortar that they hoped and prayed SOMEBODY would take out before it took them out.

    This is all the fault of those evil conservatives like Glenn Beck who are misleading the families. Demeanor doesn’t lie. Mrs. Smith and Mr. Woods are not imagining the behavior of these soulless people in the Obama WH. Remember, too, that I reported before that I heard on radio that the families of the slain did NOT want any ceremony when the coffins returned, but Obama HAD TO HAVE HIS PHOTO OP. ACTING like Commander in Chief. ACTING as if he were grieving.

    • Click to access 2012-10-09-Lamb-Testimony-FINAL1.pdf

      Lamb’s testimony. She “followed” it in “real time”. But seems to me her story doesn’t match what we’ve learned. She sure didn’t mention that the CIA told the “agents” to stand down and not respond. One now also has to wonder why Woods and Doherty had to die, considering they’d disobeyed orders and would speak if alive to speak. Did we not hear that there was video from the drones?

    WHITE HOUSE CLOWN!!! a laugh a MINUTE …. you thinks SO?
    JOE BIDEN ..U R DISGUSTING! To the CORE… you are just EVIL…

    • Lies like a rug. :evil;

    • Wow. I don’t remember that but it’s typical, isn’t it?

      ” Since his vice presidential nomination, Joe Biden’s 2007 statement that a “guy who allegedly … drank his lunch” and drove the truck that struck and killed his first wife and daughter has gained national media traction.

      Alcohol didn’t play a role in the 1972 crash, investigators found. But as recently as last week, the syndicated TV show Inside Edition aired a clip from 2001 of Biden describing the accident to an audience at the University of Delaware and saying the truck driver “stopped to drink instead of drive.”

      The senator’s statements don’t jibe with news and law enforcement reports from the time, which cleared driver Curtis C. Dunn, who died in 1999, of wrongdoing.

      “To see it coming from [Biden’s] mouth, I just burst into tears,” Dunn’s daughter, Glasgow resident Pamela Hamill, 44, said Wednesday. “My dad was always there for us. Now we feel like we should be there for him because he’s not here to defend himself.””

    • I’ll raise you this story! More recent one:

      “But while Joe Biden is a phony, he’s the bush-league variety. A skilled phony has a feel for human nature, for what will appear authentic and what won’t. What did we see, however, in the October 11 debate? It’s not just that Biden was putting on an act (although this applies even if you credit him with genuine obnoxiousness); it’s that he clearly was oblivious to how other homo sapiens would react to the act. His phoniness was Third Rock from the Sun caliber: like an alien snake-oil salesman trying to imitate human behavior. “Okay, I’ll smile wide like a Cheshire Cat, laugh, cackle, shake my head, and roll my eyes while my opponent is talking, and everyone will get the message that his arguments are not to be taken seriously. With phoniness, as with most other things, understatement works best.

      This pathological inability to read others is common to leftists, however. … t doesn’t really matter whether you think Joe Biden and his fellow travelers have good intentions. They’re dangerous for a different reason. They spend years rationalizing — this is when you lie to yourself, when you bend reality for yourself — which is necessary if you’re to believe in leftist ideas, which have no basis in reality. But when you continuously bend it for yourself, year after year, there’s a consequence: You fall out of touch with reality. Some people call this being crazy.

      One may dispute this, but it’s hard to dispute the obviously poor grasp of human nature Joe Biden exhibited during the debate. The question, to be answered in less than a month, is can the electorate grasp human nature well enough to read Biden and Barack?”

      He mentions a lot more of Biden’s phoniness and lies in the story.

  11. USA_1787 says:Sununu suggests Colin Powell’s Obama endorsement racially driven

    So what … who cares. Why is that a top story ?

    News Flash: The unusually higher percentage of blacks (more than usual) who voted for Obama in the 2008 elections did so ONLY because he was black.

    Why doesn’t CBS cover a real story like the Obama Benghazi coverup for example … where four people are dead because of the “amateur presidents” incompetence.

    DEFININITION OF INCOMPETENCE: Incompetence is the inability to perform; lack of competence; ineptitude. Administrative incompetence, dysfunctional administrative behaviors that hinder attainment of organization goals.

    I’ve got a question …. Why did the White House reject and refuse more security for the embassy the day of the attack when the Administration was asked for it ?????? And then why did they come out and lie about it for two weeks (they are still lying about it actually). And the mainstream media doesn’t cover this story. (but they post as a top story Sununu’s comment about Colin Powell. It’s probably true … so what. Who cares.)

    What is more interesting … which I haven’t heard one pundit bring up is not just the fact the the infamous video spoof that sparked such outrage in the muslim world … was actually out since June. But it was Obama’s blaming the video for the Benghazi attack which actually brought the video to the worlds attention. That’s how most of us first heard of it.
    (again … it had been out for months).

    I submit that it was actually Obama’s lying to the American people in front of the cameras and his little teleprompter … that actually fueled the flames of hatred in the muslim world (because most of them knew nothing of it), and this hatred which spread like wildfire (because of Obama’s ineptitude as a president and his need to get a head a few points in the polls), fueled by Obama’s lies, actually caused the deaths of many many more people.

    Now that is true leadership !

    • The problem isn’t incompetence (although he is). The problem is DELIBERATE NEGLECT if not DELIBERATE CAPITULATION TO MUSLIM “BOSSES”.

      They have reasons within reasons for what they do. They’re covering up what Stevens was really doing there. They’re covering up the REAL reason for the attack which even Libyans knew about in advance, well enough that a Libyan politician told the guards to “stand down” and that the families of some of the guards feared for their family members to go to work that day. They knew, so why didn’t our government know? OR DID THEY? And they LIED about the connection to that video BECAUSE of the upcoming UN event and because of the push by Muslim nations to outlaw, throughout the entire world, criticism of Islam. It was a PLAN. The REAL video that caused this event was the one by al Qaeda, where Zawahiri called for revenge for drone killings and gave the “go signal” for attacks on 9/11. They were caught flat-footed or they deliberately looked the other way and allowed it to happen, for whatever reason. We have no answers for this just as we STILL have no answers about that flyover of the World Trade Center in NYC.

  12. FWIW, and that ain’t much: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-denies-misleading-benghazi-vows-capture-plotters-184349903–election.html

    “President Barack Obama on Friday forcefully denied deliberately misleading Americans about the deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi, telling radio host Michael Smerconish, “I’ve always been straight with the American people.”

    Speaking to Smerconish during a 15-minute Oval Office interview, Obama also declared he was absolutely” prepared to kill those behind the assault but would prefer to capture them and “bring them to justice.”

    Asked whether the administration’s shifting explanation for the September 11 strike reflected the intelligence he was receiving, Obama replied: “What’s true is that the intelligence was coming in and evolving as more information came up.

    “And what is true,” he continued, “...This is something that the American people can take to the bank—is that my administration plays this stuff straight. We don’t play politics when it comes to American national security,” the president said. “As information came in we gave it to the American people. And as we got new information, we gave that to the American people.””

    Teeing it up for him. Only question is: How long does the poor schnook who’s taking the fall have to live?

  13. And this tells you WHY he went on that particular show:

    “Obama was not asked about, and did not bring up, a report by Fox News Channel that American officials repeatedly asked for military help during the assault but were rebuffed by CIA higher-ups. A spokesman for the president’s National Security Council did not acknowledge a request for comment on that report. But Defense Secretary Leon Panetta made a comment on Thursday about “Monday morning quarterbacking,” saying a clear picture of events on the ground leading up to the attack has not yet emerged.”

  14. http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/now-reuters-contradicts-itself-on-benghazi-attacks/

    Trying to keep all the stories straight. This story is how Reuters now contradicts itself. It also mentions the video footage that showed NO DEMONSTRATION. Who shot the video, who saw it and when?

  15. Eric…. is having some CRAZY FUN! GO ERIC!!!!!

  16. I can’t emphasize enough the significance of the fact that Barack Hussein Obama took Shahada. He knows what those words mean, and he knows what it means to the Muslim world when a person recites those words in Arabic. If a person says those words in Arabic, the Muslim world sees that person as a Muslim. PERIOD. There is no debating that.

    Now, the non-Muslim world can choose to think/believe whatever they want to think/believe about that, but to the Muslim world, there is no gray area on this. If you say those words in Arabic even once, you are a Muslim for life. And if you leave the Muslim faith, you are an apostate punishable by death.

    And this is the man who would not pass a Top Secret security clearance if it weren’t for the fact that he won an election to be Commander in Chief.

    The most troubling thing about this is to me is not just the 4 lives lost in Libya, but how many other lives have already been lost due to the multiple Muslim Brotherhood moles infesting multiple areas of our government, and how many more lives will be lost due to the sensitive information which has been accessed by them.

    Tell me, how did the jihadists know where the Safe House was in Benghazi? The reason it’s called a “safe house” is because it’s supposed to be a safe place to go hide when the main complex is under attack. But it’s not a safe place to be when it’s secret location has been compromised and the attackers know exactly where to go to find you.

    What other sensitive information has been leaked to the Muslim Brotherhood and Vladimir Putin??!!??

    • It’s sad about those words that they think it’s something, when it’s nothing but a false deity. Oh, what the minds of mankind without the mind of Yahweh will do.

    • Well said pill!!

      May I also point out – “word’s” of Muslim Congressman Andre Carson (D-IN)

      Muslim U.S. Congressman Laments: ’9-11 Was Tough On Muslims,’ Islam In America Is ‘Under Attack, But Must Not Retreat’

      July 12, 2012

      In a speech to the Icna Mosque in Hartford, Connecticut, last month, Congressman Andre Carson (D-IN), one of two Muslims serving in congress, empathized with fellow followers of Islam over how difficult life was for them after the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11th, 2001. The
      congressman cited racism and Muslims losing their jobs as a direct result of how “tough” life was after the terror attacks.
      Carson then called out people in the audience who might be “under-cover.” The inference was that there were subversives in the audience, set on exposing that the congregation was having secret meetings with the intentions to cause harm to America.

      “Now, it is unfortunate that there are those who are thinking that at this convention right now were having secret meetings, that were plotting to destroy this country, but I say to those who are here under-cover, Allah will not allow you to stop us.”



      Madrassas Controversy

      Congressman Carson has called for change in the US school system; on May 26, 2012, he told an Islamic Circle of North America convention that American schools should be modeled after madrassas, or Islamic schools that often are built on the foundations of the Quran:[23]

      America will never tap into educational innovation and ingenuity without looking at the model that we have in our madrassas, in our schools, where innovation is encouraged, where the foundation is the Koran. And that model that we are pushing in some of our schools meets the multiple needs of students. …I have found that we need an educational model that is current, that meets the needs of our students. America must understand that she needs Muslims.


      Mazen Asbahi,Obama’s Immoderate Muslim Outreach Director, Forced To Resign

      August 6, 2008

      August 6, 2008 – San Francisco, CA – PipeLineNews.org – Following quickly on the heels of an expose by these authors – Barack Obama’s New Muslim Advisor Cements Campaign’s Ties To Terror Friendly Organizations – Mazen Asbahi, Barack Obama’s Muslim “outreach” director, was forced to resign on Monday.

      As we noted in the above linked August 1 piece:

      “For example, Asbahi, a Chicago lawyer, is on the speakers list of the Islamic Society of North America [ISNA]

      SNA is widely understood to be linked to the Muslim Brotherhood, the terrorist Egyptian group that created Hamas. ISNA was named last summer as an unindicted co-conspirator in the nation’s largest terror prosecution, U.S. vs Holy Land Foundation and is the largest Saudi funded da’wa enterprise in North America.

      Asbahi’s ISNA biography reveals that he is involved in numerous Islamist organizations including the Nawawi Foundation [a da’wa organization run by a convert to Islam which presents all of history from an Islamist perspective] as well as the National Association of Muslim Lawyers [NAML] which has close ties to the Council on American Islamic Relations [CAIR], which has been linked to the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas as well as having been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the ongoing Holy Land prosecution.

      According to his ISNA bio, Asbahi also, “serves as a member of the board of directors of the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding,” [ISPU].

      The ISPU’s Islamist roots run deep…”

      Indeed, Mr. Asbahi’s Islamist roots run deep, so deep in fact that the MSM was finally forced to weigh in, extending [marginally…documenting his ties to a radical Chicago mosque] the research done by the independent media, thus adding weight to the growing inertia demanding his resignation.

      The critical mass of this story is not really the existence of Asbahi’s ties to Islamists. It hinges more on the inability [perhaps unwillingness] of the Obama campaign to distinguish between moderate and radical Muslims, because most competent counter-terrorism researchers could well have developed the same information and come to the correct conclusion, but that again is assuming that there was sufficient will to do it – a huge assumption.


  17. SO HOW PERFECT is this STORY…… LOST…Ballots…..Anybody seen
    the Ballots that were 4 MITT ROMNEY? Anybody there? HELL-O?

  18. State Dept. weighs size of Marine embassy force
    By Gina Harkins
    Oct 24, 2012

    The State Department is weighing whether it needs more Marine embassy security guards to staff U.S. diplomatic facilities across the globe. The review follows September’s deadly attack on a U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and revelations there was no Marine Corps presence at the compound — or anywhere else in the country — when heavily armed attackers laid waste to the facility, killing U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.
    Marine Security Guard detachments are deployed based on requests made by the State Department. Hoping to understand where the breakdown occurred that allowed for the Benghazi attack to happen, Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Rob Portman, R-Ohio, wrote to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta in early October, asking him to review whether the State Department had ever requested a Marine detachment to assist with security in Libya and, if so, what the planned timeline was for fielding it.
    Currently, more than 1,200 Marine security guards are assigned to security detachments in more than 130 countries,
    The Marine Corps’ planned drawdown of the active-duty force — the service will shed 20,000 Marines by 2017 — is not expected to affect the number of Marine security guards, officials said. However, it could increase competition for one of those 1,200 spots.


  19. Issa was on Hannity and said most of their information is coming from whistle-blowers who can’t stand the lies coming from the government.

    “Somebody decided not to take action.” Jason Chaffetz.

    Issa and Chaffetz want to see the films, and when asked if they will share them before the election, both men said they hoped so – “only if someone leaks them,” said Issa.

    Audio and video exist of the attack in video. So the films/tapes are not being given to the Congressmen doing the investigating. The administration can hide behind those classified tapes. Intentional stonewalling as usual by the Obama administration. They want to get past the election. I hear the sound of shredders.

  20. Is Obama finally feeling tread marks?

    Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus
    6:05 PM, Oct 26, 2012 • By WILLIAM KRISTOL

    Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: “No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”

    So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

    It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?


    • Petraeus, CIA Director, must know WHO told the CIA operators in Benghazi to stand down. Who gave that directive if it didn’t come from him? Does Petraeus only answer to the president or would he be under the Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta? Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday that there was not a clear enough picture of what was occurring on the ground in Benghazi to send help – so was he responsible? Did Petraeus’ spokesman write that meme about the protests and film as it was said earlier in reports?

      In another interview, it was suggested to Rumsfeld that chaos would ensue in this attack situation, Rumsfeld said no because of the chain of command. We need a org chart because Rumsfeld said there is a chain of command that is followed explicitly in situations like this.

      Obama said in one of his interviews today that he told everyone to do everything possible to save the Americans. If he really did say that, who didn’t follow orders? Was a written directive sent by him? Who sent the drones to follow what was happening? Gen. Demsey, Tom Donilon, Obama and Panetta were in the Oval office. Obama dodged the question several times in interviews when asked was help ever denied? He didn’t answer.

      We must get rid of this lying regime and comrade Obama! Obama is ignoring the MSM, and the only one covering Benghazi is FOX who can’t get any answers from the regime, yet they are getting information from sources. Obama is campaigning and spending his time giving interviews to insignificant broadcasters as though he was a star instead of a president. When asked a question, he evades as he is known for. (MTV was another important interview.).

      • Oct 26, 2012 2:43 PM
        Rush military caller says beyond shadow of doubt Obama knew about Benghazi attack and ordered no response. He explains how alerts are directed and how those are sent up the chain of command. This is an amazing phone call from a retired Lt. Col. and Special Operations Planner for 15 years who knows the inside baseball of what goes on in the White House. He told Rush that protocol dictates that as soon as the situation room got the email about the Benghazi attack, someone marched up to the president and informed him of the attack. He says it’s a bald faced lie if they say otherwise.

        He also says that it was the president who gave the order at his 5pm meeting that day to not respond to the Libya attack in progress.


        Rush military caller says that Obama ordered no response to Benghazi attack

        • Now, who are you going to believe? An anonymous Lt. Col. with fifteen years experience, or Barry the so-called Commander in Chief?

          • Without a doubt, the Lt. Col.

            Panetta Says We Lacked Real-Time Benghazi Intel
            October 27, 2012

            Comment 3 at freerepublic link by Travis McGee –

            Panetta is lying to cover his a$$. How do I know?

            Long ago I was a SEAL officer and I attended many joint and combined operational planning meetings in the USA, abroad, and on ships at sea. This type of rescue mission is called a “NEO” operation, for Non-combatant Evacuation Operation. Every embassy and consulate has and practices all kinds of emergency evac plans, in concert with the US military.

            For example, Marines and SEALs practice NEO ops prior to deploying on every float, as a VERY high priority mission. They involve full dress-rehearsals, with civilian role players, helos, landing craft, rounding up stranded stragglers, opfor ambushes, role-playing “angry mobs,” fighting your way to LZs or even beaches while protecting a gaggle of civilians down to babies etc. Conducting successful NEO ops is a TOP TOP TOP military and state department mission priority. I cannot emphasize this enough. NEO ops are planned and practiced over and over and over.

            When the alarm goes off worldwide that an embassy or consulate is being attacked, the entire U.S. military swings into rescue mode, without waiting for any orders from the White House. The military does all of the operational planning and begins to execute the rescue op.

            The one thing they CAN’T do is cross an international border without permission from POTUS. So the US Military will be inbound full-steam-ahead to make the rescue, and all they need from POTUS is a “proceed” order. In this case, they got a “stand down” instead.

            This is at the POTUS level, it is not a decision taken at State. State and the military (JCS) should be in the Situation Room with POTUS soon after a critical incident like this begins, so all decisions can be made in real time. (I have heard nowhere that POTUS went into the Situation Room at all. Apparently he went to the Oval Office briefly, but not down to the Situation Room, where the “war planning” screens, full staffs and commo tools are all located for dealing with a major crisis.)

            But if POTUS punts after a brief Oval Office meeting with Dempsey and Hillary and goes upstairs to the family quarters….the stranded Americans will die.

            Only POTUS can give the order to cross international borders. Only POTUS can allow US warplanes to give air support to Americans battling on the ground in a foreign country. If POTUS makes himself unavailable, the Americans will die.

            Even the VEEP or Secretary of State cannot make that call. The VEEP can only do it if the POTUS is determined to be medically unable to perform his functions. If the POTUS goes upstairs and turns off his phone, there is nothing anybody can do about it. Nothing. And the besieged Americans will die.

            On Friday an anonymous Pentagon insider (”Doug”) called into Rush with a lot of new details about this disgraceful fiasco. But what we really need now is for a high-ranking officer with insider knowledge to go public, risk his pension and career, and tell the truth.

            The blame for this humiliating and shameful national disgrace is pointing directly at the POTUS, and America needs to know why the inbound rescue operation was aborted.

            • We know now who SHOULD HAVE BEEN relieved of duty that day, and I’m not talking about Carter F. Ham. They will say, have been saying, that this wasn’t an embassy or a consulate–it was a “mission”. It was a SECRET one and they DO NOT WANT US TO KNOW that the very people who OBAMA ARMED–Ansar al Shariah–are the Al Qaeda associates that turned those weapons we gave them back against the “mission” in the mother of all “insider attacks” and that Stevens was there to give them more weapons to use in Syria.

              Now the AP runs interference for them. In today’s paper, the AP writes about eyewitness accounts that THEY rounded up and the people state that the attack was well planned. Over 150 bearded men in jihadist-appropriate (Islamist) clothing arrived on trucks mounted with heavy weapons. They CLOSED OFF THE STREETS! Cordoned off the mission building. This had to have been seen from the drone and on video. They KNEW this happened. Then, these complicit anonymous “eyewitnesses” said that the men rounded up 20 “youths” who were in the area and FORCED them to yell out protests about the video. They say this was probably “cover” for the impending attack. Although that’s possible, I doubt it. They would have been seen on the video, which showed that the streets were quiet until the attack began. In any case, what’s more noticeable as intel? That there were 20 “youths” shouting OR that streets were blockaded and heavy weapons mounted on trucks were attacking the mission? The worst thing about the story, though, is that’s where it ended. It said this was the controversy–whether or not there really was a protest and the fact that Obama’s administration admitted they knew in 24 hours that it was a terror attack but inexplicably kept blaming the video. But they said NOTHING, nothing, about the worst charge: That multiple calls for help were sent out and that OBAMA DID NOT GIVE ANY ORDER TO “PROCEED” with rescuing the people in the mission. WHY NOT? That’s the question. WHY did he order people to stand down? Oh, so I see, he may be technically correct that he didn’t give any order to stand down, but DID HE GIVE THE ORDER TO PROCEED WITH THE USUAL PROTOCOL? If he did, there’d be a paper trail. But was there NO protocol BECAUSE they didn’t call this an “embassy” or a “consulate”? You see how cute they are?

              So instead of believing the evidence sent by email, phone, video, audio, Obama chose instead to use the cover story GIVEN by Ansar al Sharia? That’s “evidence”?

              It seems to me that the Turkish ambassador must have had to pass through those Ansar al Shariah “checkpoints” as he left the mission safely, before the attack. They were set up almost an hour and a half before the attack. What did HE see and when did he see it? They continue to report that Smith and Stevens died from smoke inhalation, but their families still do not know the cause of death, according to Mrs. Smith.

              My newspaper cut off most of the end of the story, which spoke about how it was like the neighborhood was in the middle of a wartime occupation, how that’s why the evacuation was so difficult (because of the roadblocks), and how the SEALS were killed by a “precision” mortar strike. But there’s no mention of the FACT that this happened hours later and Obama COULD HAVE PREVENTED IT had he sent in air support, even an armed drone. No mention that those in the annex were broadcasting the coordinates of the mortar in the vain hope that a drone, plane, or missile would take it out before they were murdered in cold blood. This is so much WORSE than what happened during the Carter administration’s hostage rescue fiasco. These men were left to die. WHY, Obama, WHY?

              This story at Hot Air reminds me of something else that I don’t remember reading in most lamestream stories: The Libyan “guards” were UNARMED. Notice that the AP story does, at least, mention that the LIBYAN government employed Ansar al Shariah AS GOVERNMENT SECURITY. That means that the Libyan government very well could be complicit in this attack, too. We already know that the guards were warned to get out of there because an attack was planned. We already know that an al-Qaeda-connected Libyan politician had advised them to “stand down” when the attack took place. So the question remains: Was this an October surprise designed to allow Stevens and Smith to be taken hostage and then Barry would come in and “rescue” them and be successful where Carter was not? All to win this election? Did it go to hell when the brave Doherty and Woods did what their training told them to do, when they sacrificed their lives to SAVE many of the people left in that “mission”?

              We know now how the lamestream is going to play this. They’re going to try as hard as they can to protect Barry from this, but it’s impossible. They need to do their jobs NOW because if they don’t, it’s going to come out anyway, after the election, and then they will have a very big story to cover: Barry’s impeachment, if he wins. Or his disgrace (at the least) if he does not.

          • BOMBSHELL: US Troops Wouldn’t Have Been Painting Targets on Ground Unless There Was Air Support..
            October 26, 2012

            BOMBSHELL: US troops in Benghazi would not have been painting targets on the ground unless there was air support overhead. But someone called it off – And the decision most likely came from the White House.

            FOX News reported earlier today that security officers on the ground in Benghazi had a laser planted on a target that was firing on the annex.

            The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.

            So there were two drones in the air recording the attack on the ground. And now we know the CIA team at the annex was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. The White House was able to watch the attack live back in Washington DC. Yet, yesterday Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said this, “The U.S. military did not get involved during the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, last month because officials did not have enough information about what was going on before the attack was over.”

            How much more information did they need?

            * * * * *

            Then there’s this bombshell at BlackFive from a former Delta operator:

            Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from the report jumped out at me.

            One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not “paint” a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.

            Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.

            If the AC130 never left Sigonella (as Penetta says) that means that the Predator that was filming the whole thing was armed.

            If that SEAL was actively “painting” a target; something was on station to engage! And the decision to stand down goes directly to POTUS!

            This is HUGE. It should be obvious by now that someone is not telling the truth. As Blackfive says, “This is bigger than Watergate!… The worst has to be the team on the ground knowing that the President just left you to die.“

            A caller today discussed this with Rush Limbaugh.

            (VIDEO AT LINK)

            Here is part of that conversation.

            CALLER: Well, there’s three networks, Rush.

            Cont’s @ Link –


            The truth is coming out, NOT because of the MSM but because of brave men and woman who have served. God bless them and keep them and their family’s safe.

  21. See how the worm wiggles.

    Obama Refuses to Answer ‘Repeated Questions on Whether Requests for Help in Benghazi Were Denied’
    October 26, 2012 at 5:33pm Snips

    Update (5:53 PM ET): President Barack Obama reportedly refused to provide a direct answer to repeated questions on whether requests for help in Benghazi were denied as the attack was underway during an interview with 9News in Denver on Friday. Kyle Clark, a reporter with 9News, asked the president about the requests for help and whether or not it was fair to make Americans wait for answers on Benghazi until after the election.

    “The election has nothing to do with four brave Americans getting killed and us wanting to find out exactly what happened,” Obama said. “Nobody wants to find out more what happened than I do.” The president went on to say he wants to “gather all the facts” and find out “exactly what happened” and bring justice to the terrorists who attacked the U.S. mission in Libya. [Same thing he has said repeatedly. This must be what his personal attorney told him to say. He restates what he said during one of the debates – his 3 directives; a rote statement.]

    “President Obama was directly asked twice whether pleas for help on the ground in Libya were denied during the attack. Both times, he repeated his standard call for a thorough investigation,” 9News reports. Clark’s line of questioning was seemingly different than the president usually faces from a media that has been friendly to him.


      • Blah, blah, blah anything to get through the interview. It is rote. That is a repeat of his debate prep, all his talking points and no answers to questions. Uh, uh, and, and… The reporter had some pertinent questions yet Obama didn’t answer even one.

    • I saw part of that interview on Hannity and he DID dodge the question. He’s not going to get them off his back by DODGING.

    • The way they shuck and jive on this and parse every statement and answer questions not asked instead of the questions asked, it becomes more and more apparent that they’re all lying. We need to find out, then, exactly WHO Woods reported to. Whom did he work for? A security firm? The CIA? The U.S. military? Whom? Somebody is his immediate supervisor and somehow it’s known that somebody told him to “stand down” and Woods disobeyed that command (whether he was legally bound to is another question) and the rest is history. He saved many lives that would have been lost, but it just may be that the “plan” was for the undefended men in the “mission” to be taken hostage and certainly NOT to be rescued. Those SEALS going in there might have been the fly in the ointment.

    • Waaaaa. Waaaaaa. Waaaaa. What’s their problem with the sticker unless they have a guilty conscience because they KNOW something we don’t know. Isn’t he an “American”?

  22. I left a comment on another website just days after the 9/11 Benghazi attack regarding a peculiar fact related to Glen Doherty. I thought I’d see more reported about that, but to this day, haven’t.

    Doherty was one of the Special Ops at the scene of the Somali Pirate stand-off in the Red Sea back in August of 2009. One of the lesser-reported facts of that incident was that the stand-off lasted is long as it did because the commander on the scene was given orders from the White House to fire on the pirates only if the abducted captain’s life was in “imminent danger”. People here might remember that it took Obama three full days of dithering before even that order was given. During that three days, our forces were on the scene with no permission to engage the pirates. Even the order they were eventually given did not allow them to take the initiative to free the abducted captain, but only to respond if his life was in clear danger. Earlier on in the stand-off, the captain managed to get free for several seconds and put enough room between himself and his captors for the SEALS to get off the necessary kill-shots, but the SEALS couldn’t act as the pirates made no move to shoot him. The SEALS finally made the kill when the commander had enough of playing around and gave the order when he saw the next opportunity. It was all over the military blogs and those that link to them that the truth was that the abducted captain was never in imminent danger of death, but that the on-scene commander saw he had another opportunity for a kill and ordered it, only covering himself after the fact by saying that one of the pirates had an AK-47 aimed at the neck of the captain. Doherty himself killed one of the pirates. So this in not the first time that Doherty was in a situation where circumstances forced him to disobey orders that kept him from using his skills to save American lives.

    Here’s a story where a Doherty’s father mentions his role in the pirate episode:


    and here, a brief two-page report from CNN on the same incident where it’s mentioned that the orders were to fire only if in case of “imminent danger of death”:


    I’m surprised I haven’t seen this reported on. It doesn’t exactly rise to the level of a “Lame Cherry Matter/Anti-Matter Exclusive”, but it’s an interesting thing to take note of.

    • Thanks Sartana for bringing this to our attention. Within the last week, I mentioned the Pirate standoff in relation to Obama not giving the order and that the Captain finally did give the order since he was the commander of the ship. What I didn’t realize is that Doherty was one of those Seals who was waiting for the order. Obama was seen as a coward then as he is now or else he was totally evil in this incident. We will find out. As I think about it, it was just reported that Panetta was the one to call for Bin Laden to be killed and not Obama. Where is Obama during these incidents?

      • I wonder if that incident had anything to do with Doherty leaving the SEALS? Good catch, Sartana. I didn’t realize he was one of those who shot the pirates. Of course, they probably keep that information secret for the obvious reasons. No harm can come to him now that he’s among the deceased (on Barry’s “watch”). Welcome.

    • This is truly sad and something I just learned: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/obama-speaks-ceremony-americans-slain-libya-home/story?id=17235203#3
      “Tyrone Woods was killed just months after the birth of his third son, Kai, the State Department said. … Woods’ wife Dorothy gave birth to Kai “just a few months ago,” the State Department said. Kai joins Woods’ two other sons, Tyrone Jr. and Hunter.”

      You can go backwards and forwards at that link to read about the others who were killed. Sean Smith was also the father of two children. So sad. I had somehow assumed these guys were bachelors because this is the only story I’ve seen so far that mentions children.

      Doherty was working as a contractor for the STATE DEPT., tracking down loose weapons. So to whom did he report? WHO would give the order for him to “stand down”? It’s obvious that Petraeus is parsing. Nobody at the CIA gave the order. So WHO DID?

      Note that the story says Doherty was tracking down weapons that had been looted and yet the story I linked yesterday said he was seeking to “repurchase” weapons. That implies a previous SALE of those weapons to the terrorists who now possess them.

      • Dick Morris has a website where they’re taking donations to the family of Doherty , for the baby’s future. They may be taking donations to all the families. I’m not sure.

    • Doherty was also on the USS Cole when it was attacked, he was one of the 39 were injured, his leg if I remember right. Excellent research sartana, glad you are here.

    • Rosemary Woodhouse


      LC amuses me.. He is often so insightfully right and for that he gets major kudos. And although he tries to be (intentionally, I presume) enigmatic, I usually understand what he writes. But the continual braying about “exclusives” is bit much. And for someone who claims his posts are borne of Divine inspiration. I must quote the Bible……..

      Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.

      So keep up the insightful posts, Lame, but please lighten up on the ago.

  23. Maybe Reggie Love had him too occupied, or it did look like he was in his golf attire while watching that so-called bin Laden video with Hillary looking on. she seems to be really good at paying close attention the these disheartening videos.
    No actually, it’s looking so obvious that O. is the real deal PUPPET. Who tells him what to say? Who advises him to leave the situation on Benghazi and trot off to places like the view and talk about trivial matters and continue the video meme. WHO?
    The Rothschild bankers continue to pull his strings, the Jews supply the fodder to keep us willing to stir up the middle east and get Iran for them (and Iraq). The Queen of ENgland knows he’s just a dimwit doing business on their behalf (check what stocks and businesses are royal stock). Russia and China are his models he looks to. His puppet strings are stretched and so tangled, poor O. needs many translators and and tools of this administration to keep things running. He’s just a Socialist with puppet knots. He can’t do this by himself. It would suit me if Hillary was toast or wish she’d just sneak out the back door and claim she’s never going to run for anything again. She and Bill have been instigators and on the take since Arkansas and probably before. I don’t trust Panetta anymore than the rest of them.THen, there’s the good and the bad CIA figures.Which ones of them do we decide to trust as they’ve been culprits on behalf of themselves and the government since their creation.
    And then there’s dear “Leader Romney” to the rescue. Well Romney’s not just any leader. You know his old mentor Joseph Smith (the Mormon founder)ran for President…too bad he got assassinated. THen of course his morman dad tried to run for president. Romney will be a leader/priest in every sense of the word, so get ready folks, no matter who wins this election. Other than the Vatican, the Mormon group is one of the wealthiest with many HIDDEN assets. You might want to check out why it is Romney is so pro coal.
    I know I am a bit off subject, but while we frackle over every detail as it comes in on the Benghazi episode/crescendo many many things are coming together for another crescendo. Tighten your seatbelts everybody, I don’t think we’ve seen anything yet.

    • Wow. A twofer, alfy. Slams on the Jews and the Mormons. Wait. It was a threefer. Catholics, too.

      In no way do I believe that the Israelis are suicidal enough to WANT turmoil in the Middle East.

      Joseph Smith has been dead for decades, so unlikely he’s Mitt’s “mentor”. The man seems like a good man to me, which is certainly more than I can say about Barry, who made the hairs on the back of my neck go up the instant I first heard his creepy voice. Get thee behind me …

      Romney will be a “leader/priest”? Seems I heard the same thing said about JFK. Didn’t happen. I’d prefer to cast my lot with someone who gives $4.2 million of his own money to charity and who takes time out to help a neighbor did out a stump than with the current “lot” in the WH.

      As for the Vatican and the Mormons, religious groups have as much right to hide their assets as anyone else. I’m sure both groups comply with the IRS, as far as reporting donations as not-for-profit entities. The Presbyterians, Baptists, Lutherans, and Episcopalians, among others, have wealth, too. If you factored in the size of the congregation, say figured the value of assets per member, these other religious sects would probably be not much different from the per capita wealth of Catholics. And then, you ought to subtract the VALUE of the good that the Catholic Church does via Catholic Charities, hospitals, orphanages, schools, etc.

      • Scuse me in being sort of hasty in my description of Romney. There are many facets I left out, but I was referring to Romney as leader/priest sort of half nebulously…at the same time I assmed that any who have read much on Romney’s faith and practices knows what I meant , as Romney has been in a priest capacity serving his church, so he is quite well rehearsed as a leader with religious strengths and convictions. And we’ll just have to wait and see where that gets us….but the Mormon church as an institution, not a religion , is a huge corporate participater.
        I am not aware of Kennedy’s leader /priestly qualities, but I do remember the long speech that’s floated around on internet for some time about how we need to be aware of dominating secret societies and the many unseen forces. that may pervade/invade our constitutional freedoms..and how he wanted to lower the tax burden for every American (he touted the republican philosophy on economics and the wealfare of the people) . Seems he was aware of something that we’re seeing again rear it’s ugly head from more than one origin too, yet we choose to push these truths away deep into the pockets of conspiracy theory and wild unproved thinking. Like lint , these truths collect there and someday we’ll finally turn these pockets wrongside out and expose all this STUFF . Until then, perhaps in your reading of Hawaii you’ve come across the Mormon misionaries, or certainly you’ve followed some on Brigham Young and Hawaii and some of his relatives,,,,or remember the fellow Bissell (CIA Bissell and the Bissell associated with Lolo S…..was a Brigham Young U. student. Remember there are many people associated with the Young name in Hawaii. Check Peabody and the Mormon Church and what Mormons are associated with the take over of Hopi Indian lands for coal and natural resources…giving Hopi’s the raw deal with the Mormon Lawyer and gov. official ….which goes directly to the CORP. of the Mormon Church. That’s just one deal. I have a lawyer friend who lived for a year with the Hopi during his PHD in theology. He knows about the Mormons and there dealings with the Hopi.
        I will be voting for Romney though, but I will be keeping my eyes open, my pocket book guarded, and my bible and religious history books handy , just in case Romney’s ideas of Peace are to help Israel bring their One World Hierarchy and central Government to operate. If Romney’s idea of peace thru strength is to pester Syria like we have Egypt and Libya for Israel’s and US common interest, in the name of HUMAN RIGHTS I will say he’s not much different than PUPPET OBama or Bush. . We all will be so glad to see Obama leave , but our fights are not over.

        • I miswrote. What I meant to say is that it was alleged that the Catholic Church would control JFK should he be elected. It didn’t happen and, as it turns out, he was hardly the image of a faithful Catholic. It’s the same with most of the so-called Catholics in the DemoncRAT party. Catholic Democrat is an oxymoron, actually, if one tries to be faithful to both the Democrat party platform and the Catholic Church.

          Romney wouldn’t be the first member of the “clergy” in the U.S. government, if that’s what you call his role in the Mormon church: Senator John Danforth–Episcopalian priest. Senator Tim Hutchinson and Representative Ron Lewis–Baptist ministers. Representative Robert Drinan–Catholic priest. Representative Samuel Fessenden–Congregational minister. Representatives John Bull, Emanuel Cleaver, Robert Edgar–Methodist ministers. Representatives William Hudnut II and John Witherspoon–Presbyterian ministers. Senator Hiram Rhodes Revels–African Methodist Episcopal minister. Representative Tim Walberg–nondenominational Protestant minister. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_pastors_in_politics There are also governors, mayors, and state politicians who are members of the clergy.

          • Sorry to get stuck on religiosity, but here might answer a little of why I at least have reservation. I don’t in any way know what is in Romney’s heart ,soul; whether he will be able to govern and satisfy every whim of a broken government, I can only HOPE…yeah that word has some meaning this time around…., that he can do what’s best at this time, and I believe he’s sincere. But like every administration, it’s filled with men and women with their own visions , that are the catalyst for what comes next. Where Romney would take us in four years certainly should be looked at from a religious perspective and that we can only assume.
            THis article is interesting, while it is not something I take as a literal blueprint for how I should view Romney, it does shed a light. There are many others which are longer and deeper but this one does touch a bit on some of what we were talking about. THis one is from a Christian ministry….
            And of course all the people you just mentioned being members of clergy….I dont’ take issue at all…..but then many consider the Mormon religion a CULT. I have friends that are Mormon and we can share much about our faith, but just like I do not know all there is about my own bible origins, neither does she about her Mormon Bible.
            I didn’t intend to get into religion and Romney issue, hey but it may be important to . Nuff Said.

            • We never know for certain what’s in anyone’s soul. All we can ever do is go with our hearts, trust in God, and hope for the best. NO human being will EVER completely satisfy every other person in this country. It’s the nature of humans to squabble and disagree. That’s exactly why our Founders created a divided government of co-equal branches, in order to have checks and balances so that, in the end, or so the theory goes, what results at least satisfies most of the people, most of the time, and no one man or minority group (or majority) can DICTATE to others. Romney is just one person. Even as POTUS, he can’t impose his religion on the rest of our government. Unlike Obama, I see NO CULT-LIKE following for Romney. The other branches of government must be considered. He can’t appoint to the SCOTUS without the consent of the Senate. Unlike Obama, he shows no tendency to evade the law, to disobey an oath to the Constitution, to do an end run around others in the Congress or the courts, etc.

          • Oh, and speaking of Mormons did something just recently happen to Senator Harry Reed? Is he in the hospital or something….Did I dream that last night or was it on the news?

            • He was slightly injured when the cars in his motorcade rammed into the back of each other. Sad to say, the 12-year-old daughter of Marco Rubio has a head injury from an accident today. She’s in “fair” condition. Pray for her.

          • I thought I was through bothering everyone about the Mormon church, but a little side note , if one reads Pratt’s letters to Bingham Y. in his missions to Peru ect., we find how little they thought of the CATHOLiC Church….they thought of it as and abomination. They had nothing nice to say about the Catholic church and their main focus in the mid-late 1800’s was solely on bringing Israel’s destiny to fruition. The support of Isrel is not new to the Mormon church, but today I haven’t followed any of what their outward focuses are.

            • If a GOAT was running against Obama, I’d vote for the goat. A Mormon is a blessing after Obama. I don’t care who Mormons hate. All I care about is that we have a president who LOVES this country and will not set out to deliberately destroy it.

        • Alfy, the Young name originates from northern Ireland, okkaaay there’s people living in Hawaii with the name Young…and then you mention Peabody. I do not understand your point. Are you saying because there are bad people, people with tie’s, with the name Young, Peabody, ect. it make’s everyone with the same name a bad person?

          You see I personally have never understood this logic. A name is just that a NAME. If my name happened too be Monroe, doe’s that mean I trace too Marilyn? Or say if my last name happened too be Kennedy, doe’s that mean I am also guilty in some way of the conspiracy behind Marlyn’s death Just because of my name?

          See what I’m trying too say? Where’s the logic? Maybe you can explain it better so that I can understand, I’d appreciate it. Tk’s………

          And….as far as your speak re: Romney, realy Alf? Why? Were down too a matter of day’s until the election and you want too talk personal theory’s? On the up half, I’m glad too see he has your vote anyway!

          I know your a true patriot Alf, I’ve enjoyed working with you here doing research and conversation, but there are time’s that “personal theory’s” should be just that….know what I mean? 😉 thank’s Alf, you know your loved here, god bless…..

  24. Special Report Investigates: Benghazi — New Revelations
    October 25, 2012

    Saturday, October 27 at 1 p.m. ET
    Sunday, October 28 at 3 p.m, and 10 p.m. ET

    Hosted by Bret Baier

    On Sept. 11, 2012, terrorists overran the United States consulate in Benghazi, Libya and murdered our ambassador along with three other Americans. Now, more than six weeks after the attack, some of the most important questions remain unanswered:

    Who did this and why?
    Could the attack have been prevented or repelled after it began?
    What did the White House know and when?

    And, as we enter the final stretch of the race for the White House, which side is closer to the truth: Those who argue this terrible tragedy was largely unforeseeable or those who say we’re seeing President Obama’s foreign policy unraveling right on our TV screens?

    Fox News has been on this story from the very beginning. Tune in this weekend, Bret Baier reveals explosive new details that you haven’t heard.


  25. Off doing other stuff – that’s Obama’s excuse.
    Obama explains Russian ‘flexibility’ comments
    10/26/12 8:01 PM EDT

    President Obama was asked Friday about his hot mic comments to then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that he would have more “flexibility” after the 2012 election. In an interview with KRNV Reno, Obama pivoted directly to nuclear security — despite the fact that Medvedev and Obama were talking about the specific issue of European missile defense.

    “This was specifically about how we deal with Russia and nuclear arms, Obama said. “That’s something that was ratified on a bipartisan basis in the United States Senate.” “The discussion there very much just had to do with the fact that it’s hard to negotiate additional treaties when I’m off campaigning and doing all kinds of stuff, Obama said.


  26. Reagan Defense Official: If Obama Really Gave the Order to Secure Libya Personnel, ‘There’s a Paper Trail’
    October 27, 2012 Snip

    A former Department of Defense official said Friday that if President Barack Obama really gave an order to secure U.S. personnel when the consulate in Libya came under assault, there will a paper trail to prove it.

    Francis “Bing” West, who served as an assistant secretary of defense under President Ronald Reagan, told Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren that the president’s explanation about his actions when the U.S. mission in Benghazi was attacked should be easily verifiable.

    “President Obama today said that he gave an order to everyone while the attack was going on to do everything they could to secure the personnel,” West said. “Now that’s really big because that means that those who were turning down [former Navy SEAL] Ty Woods when he was asking for the help were going against the orders of the president of the United States.”


  27. It just gets worse by the day. 😯

    • It will be critical to watch the treatment that the media, especially network television news and widely-read organs like the Associated Press, give to Benghazi over the next week. What we already know about Benghazi is a scandal of the highest order: the ambassador asked for more security after a series of terrorist threats and attacks, but didn’t get it, even on the anniversary of September 11. The administration knew that four Americans had been killed in a successful terrorist attack by an al Qaeda affiliate, but lied about the event for weeks in hopes of minimizing political fallout. Extraordinarily courageous Americans fought a seven-hour gun battle against well-armed and well-organized terrorists who vastly outnumbered them before finally succumbing, during which time the Obama administration did nothing. And when the bodies of the dead Americans were returned to the United States, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton misappropriated the occasion to deliver politically-motivated lies, both to the victims’ survivors and to the American people. All of that we now know for sure. If, in addition, there is credible evidence that American soldiers, fighting desperately for their lives against our country’s most bitter enemies, called for help but were cynically left to perish in order to protect Barack Obama’s petty re-election campaign, Obama will not only lose the election but will be turned out of office in disgust by a clear majority of voters. Reporters and editors know this. It will be interesting to see how they respond during the coming days: will they do their jobs, or will they assist their candidate with his cover-up?”

      Cover-up, is my guess.

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        But it’s those sons of bi%hes who will vote for him anyway, along with the ensuing massive fraud that will occur which has me most concerned as election day approaches. I find it hard to believe there are people who will still vote for him, but as Colin Powell has proven, race (T)rumps (pun intended) everything.

        • Rosemary Woodhouse

          And the only way to solve the problem is doing what no politician would dare…..stop entitlement programs for the able bodied. Then we’ll see the need for illegals decline too! Two birds; one stone!

    • Bridgette linked to another WND article about Dr. Hodges: http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/forensic-profiler-meet-obama-the-sandman/?cat_orig=us

      I found this at Amazon, when trying to figure out what he meant by “super intelligence”. He’s not calling Barry a genius; this is similar to superego:

      “ANDREW G. HODGES, M.D., is a board-certified psychiatrist in private practice. Previously he was assistant clinical professor of psychiatry at the University of Alabama School of Medicine. Dr. Hodges has helped pioneer a breakthrough to the brilliant unconscious mind, which he explained in his 1994 groundbreaking book The Deeper Intelligence (which he now calls the “super intelligence”).

      A noted forensic profiler, he developed his technique, “ThoughtPrint Decoding,” by accessing the unconscious super intelligence of suspects during criminal investigations, basing his analysis on verbatim testimony, transcripts of police interviews, letters and emails created by the suspects.

      He discovered a deeper moral compass which prompts people to always tell the truth–between the lines–in the special symbolic language of the subconscious. [I would compare this to Edgar Allen Poe’s story about the Imp of the Perverse, or perhaps the opposite of the Imp that drives otherwise good people to do evil.] His work added a whole new dimension to the forensic science of psycholinguistics. …

      Dr. Hodges has written for a major FBI publication and presented his cutting-edge technique at a law enforcement conference at the FBI training facility in Quantico, Virginia. In addition to assisting criminal investigators, Dr. Hodges also applies his super-intelligence technique in the analysis of leaders who confess unconsciously when they are violating their deeper moral compass. … ”

      I’m not sure that Barry has a “deeper moral compass,” but maybe Mr. Woods saw it when he said that Barry seemed “conflicted”. I suppose redemption is possible for anyone.

      • But then again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imp_of_the_Perverse_%28short_story%29
        “”The Imp of the Perverse” begins as an essay rather than as a work of fiction, a format that Poe previously used in “The Premature Burial”. It is, therefore, less about plot and more about theory. As Poe describes this theory:

        We stand upon the brink of a precipice. We peer into the abyss—we grow sick and dizzy. Our first impulse is to shrink away from the danger. Unaccountably we remain… it is but a thought, although a fearful one, and one which chills the very marrow of our bones with the fierceness of the delight of its horror. It is merely the idea of what would be our sensations during the sweeping precipitancy of a fall from such a height… for this very cause do we now the most vividly desire it.

        The work theorizes that all people have self-destructive tendencies, including the narrator, and that this “perversity” is also the narrator’s attempt to avoid moral responsibility for his actions.[4] The narrator’s ultimate confession as a murderer is not inspired by any feelings of guilt but, instead, from a desire to publicize his actions despite knowing that he should not.”

      • Rosemary Woodhouse

        It’s impossible for a soul-less being to have a “deeper moral compass”. His eyes, as noted before, are empty.

  28. And the wheels on the bus go ’round and ’round and ’round. Treadmarks:

    “The latest rumor making the rounds is that Barack Obama replaced General Carter Ham at Africom after the general made a move to help the US security officials at the Benghazi consulate and annex. Ham was replaced by Gen. David Rodriquez on October 18.
    Tiger Droppings reported:

    The information I heard today was that General [Carter] Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.

    General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

    The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham’s place as the head of Africom.

    Sure enough Obama nominated Gen. David Rodriguez to replace Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command.
    The Stars and Stripes reported:

    President Barack Obama will nominate Army Gen. David Rodriguez to succeed Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command and Marine Lt. Gen. John Paxton to succeed Gen. Joseph Dunford as assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced Thursday.

    Both appointments must be confirmed by the Senate.”

    Gen. Ham was mentioned in Panetta’s statement yesterday, where he lied that they didn’t have enough intel to commit “troops” and evaded the question about air support. I’d never heard of him before I wrote this post. I had to look up who he is.

  29. http://www.therightscoop.com/lt-gen-mcinerney-on-benghazi-whoever-gave-the-stand-down-order-is-responsible-for-killing-ambassador/

    “Lt. Gen. Tom Mcinerney asked “are we brain-dead?” and says that we should have had ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance) assets over Libya before the 9/11 attacks ever happened, especially given the fact that radical Islamists were told by Al-Qaeda chief Zawahiri to take out Americans in retribution for our killing of Abu Yahya al-Libi over the summer.

    But the most disturbing part of this he says is that during the 9/11 attacks we didn’t even try to save to save our people in Libya, that we didn’t do anything. In fact he goes on to say that whoever gave the “stand down” order to our forces at the annex in Benghazi is responsible for killing Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith because he believes it’s highly possible that the small force from the Annex could have disrupted the attack and likely saved our Stevens and Smith.”

  30. “Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer: My sources tell me Obama was in the room watching Benghazi attack”

    • “Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer said tonight that his sources tell him that Obama was one of the people in the room watching the Benghazi attack go down and both he and Col. David Hunt agree it would have taken an order by the president to intervene. Further, Col. Hunt said that we were only 20 min away by jet and a couple of hours away by AC-130 gunships and special forces, and the decision not to intervene had to be political.”


    • OMG. And he chose not to intervene. CHOSE not to send air support at the very least to take out that mortar!!!

      Here’s fabulous timing: http://www.france24.com/en/20121027-saudi-king-urges-un-action-against-religious-insults

      “Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz on Saturday demanded a UN resolution condemning insults on monotheistic religions after a low-budget film produced in the US sparked deadly protests last month.

      “I demand a UN resolution that condemns any country or group that insults religions and prophets,” he said during a meeting at his palace with religious figures and heads of hajj delegations in the Mina valley where pilgrims were performing final rituals of hajj.

      “It is our duty and that of every Muslim [Barry? Your king is calling.] to protect Islam and defend the prophets.”

      A low-budget film produced in the US, Innocence of Muslims, triggered a wave of deadly anti-American violence last month across the Muslim world targeting US symbols ranging from embassies and schools to fast food chains.”

      I DEMAND that the Saudi “king” go … You can guess.

      But what does this tell you about WHY Obama and Clinton WANTED to blame that video? WHY Barry went to the UN and blamed that video?

      In a very good impersonation of OBL, he also said, “The king also called on Saturday for the “unity of the Islamic nation (and) rejecting division to face the nation’s enemies” as he urged for dialogue among Muslims.”

      And those “enemies” would be …

  31. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/bing-west-doubles-down-there-was-no-presidential-order-to-secure-benghazi-consulate-video/

    “This morning Bing West doubled down.
    West does not believe there ever was a presidential order:

    “In my judgement the audio track will show the White House knew that there was an attack going on. The real critical issue is the president says that he immediately ordered all available assets to help. The military would have put out an order from the president. There’s no question about that… What I’m asking is, “Show us the order!” Mr. President if you said use everything available and our military immediately sent out the order, simply show us the order. I have great reservations that there is no such order.“”

    Are they going to make Carter Ham take the fall? Are they going to tell us that HE countermanded the potus order and that’s why he was relieved of duty (even though we’ve heard the opposite)? This is reminding me of the movie Hunt for Red October. Red OCTOBER. What a coincidence.

    • Hey Miri, Red October…wow, what a coinky dink. I don’t think I’m on an open thread, but this morn. I had posted somewhere some info. on Biden’s son and a company he’s associated with that happens to be a Canadian company that will be doing the vote counting in Wisconsin. If you catch my post , I thought it was Important and didn’t want it going into oblivian before the day is over. Have you noticed it? Maybe all of yu have already looked into the matter, but I haven’t noticed if you have.

  32. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50134037n&tag=re1.channel

    Wow. McCain unloads on Barry on Face the Nation (aka deface the nation). Sunday morning when the whole world is watching. A coverup. Gross incompetence. Disqualifies Barry as Commander in Chief. Wow.

    btw, Schieffer is hoping the megastorm (why they’re hyping?) will help Barry look presidential. McCain, inexplicably, expects Barry to come off the campaign trail to “deal with” the storm. OMG. Is that the plan?

    I suspect Schieffer expected to hear from McCain the RINO the media LOVE to love and instead he got McCain the war hero who LOVES his country.

    • I haven’t completely skimmed the newest posts to see if this was mentioned but I saw a brief article yesterday about an Admiral in a Middle East fleet who was suddenly ‘relieved of his duty’ in the past week. The article mentioned how unusual that is…I’ll try to find it if nobody knows what I’m talking about

    • Barry is on TV telling people to protect themselves from the storm. He is warning people to take Sandy seriously. Have we seen him do this previously? I don’t remember him trying to look presidential before a hurricane or storm, it is usually after the fact that he appears.

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