Christian? No Free Speech for YOU! (Open Thread)

© Miri WTPOTUS August 9, 2012

The progressive left severely criticized the CEO of Chick-fil-A for daring to tell a religious publication that he supports traditional marriage. Some stated that those who hold similar views are better off not speaking at all. They warned CEO Dan Cathy that by publicly voicing his personal religious views, he made his company the target of boycotts. They also took his company to task for financially supporting what some “progressive” organizations characterize as “hate groups”.

The goal of such criticism, of course, is intimidation. The goal is to “discourage” Christians like Mr. Cathy from speaking out and also from using his money to support organizations with which he agrees.  This is not unlike what conservatives experience when they donate to conservative causes. The rabid criticism, from the left, of the Supreme Court decision in Citizens United is an example

Christians should be seen and not heard, and they do not have a right to fund organizations that support their religious or political views, if their views are in opposition to the views of the progressive left [emphasis added to all quotes].

The groups Chick-fil-A gives to include the Family Research Council and Exodus International,according to Equality Matters, an initiative associated with the progressive Watchdog group, Media Matters. The Family Research Council is designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, while Exodus International is a Christian Ministry that has long endorsed ex-gay therapy, a controversial practice of “curing” gay people that mainstream mental health organizations have disavowed. (In recent months, the president of Exodus has tried to distance his group from the idea that gay people can be “cured.”)

Now, some of us would call the Southern Poverty Law Center a “hate group”, and Media Matters has a close association with George Soros, whom many consider to be a not very nice man; but you don’t see those caveats in the Huffington Post article, written by “gay voice” advocate Lila Shapiro. Of course, it all depends upon your political and religious views, which we’re still allowed to have in this country, at the moment.

According to some, there’s no end to the “hate” of those pro-traditional-marriage Christians. Some “gay voices” were even offended by the turnout for Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day. Now Christians aren’t even supposed to assemble, if by doing so they offend the sensibilities of those with whom they disagree.

The Shapiro article contains a slide show identifying companies that have been boycotted for pro-gay political speech, political activities, or advertisements, including:

Oreo, Betty Crocker, Levis, Cheerios, American Apparel, Walt Disney World Resort, Starbucks, Wheaties, Procter and Gamble (Tide, Pampers, Crest), Microsoft, The Home Depot, Girl Scouts, Macy’s, Pepsico (Pepsi, Fritos, Quaker Oats, Gatorade), Safeway, Old Navy, Target, J. C. Penney, Pillsbury, Walgreen’s, Ford, GAP, Green Giant.

Fair enough. Boycotts or buycotts. We all have the same rights. People on both sides of any issue are free to vote with their feet. They’re free to spend or not spend their own money wherever they choose.

But there’s one big honking difference here. You don’t see mayors or alderpersons, or community activists who have the ear of government officials, threatening to illegally use the powers of government to openly discriminate against companies that are headed by Christians who happened to exercise their constitutional rights of freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

The most amazing part of this entire story was how unfazed these politicians were about their thuggish threats. It’s as if they have NO CLUE about the law and the Constitution, even though some are lawyers and some have made it a career to fight for civil rights. Note how Shapiro framed it:

Elected officials have urged Chick-fil-A to stay out of their cities


Thomas Menino, Mayor of Boston:

I was angry to learn on the heels of your prejudiced statements about your search for a site to locate in Boston. There is no place for discrimination on Boston’s Freedom Trail and no place for your company alongside it.

Chicago Alderman Proco “Joe” Moreno:

“Because of this man’s ignorance, I will now be denying Chick-fil-A’s permit to open a restaurant in the 1st Ward.” … Moreno, meanwhile, said it will take “more than words” to get him to reverse course.

“They’d have to do a complete 180,” the alderman said. “They’d have to work with LGBT groups in terms of hiring, and there would have to be a public apology from (Cathy).”

Moreno did the 180. Maybe the ACLU coming down on the side of Chick-fil-A had something to do with that.

Rick Garcia, Chicago gay activist:

“I think it’s important that the city sends a message that we want business here … but what we can’t have and don’t want are businesses that have discriminatory roles,” Garcia said, adding that he’s a defender of free speech.

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel:

The anti-gay views openly espoused by the president of a fast food chain … have run afoul of Mayor Rahm Emanuel and a local alderman, who are determined to block Chick-fil-A from expanding in Chicago.

“Chick-fil-A’s values are not Chicago values. They’re not respectful of our residents, our neighbors and our family members. And if you’re gonna be part of the Chicago community, you should reflect Chicago values,” Emanuel said.

Openly gay New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn,
who wants to be mayor:

wrote to NYU President John Sexton asking the school to boot the Chick-Fil-A location from its campus — the only one in the city.

She told the Daily News editorial board Tuesday that she waited to do so until after NYU’s controversial expansion had cleared the Council because she didn’t “want there to be any misimpression that there was any connection.”

The 2013 mayoral contender said she used official Council letterhead for her Saturday missive because she thought “it would be ridiculous if I wrote on personal stationery to the president of the university.”

NYU spokesman John Beckman said Cathy’s comments “are out of step with NYU’s views on this matter,” and that the school’s University Senate would reexamine in the fall whether to keep the chicken shop on campus.

San Francisco mayor Edwin M. Lee tweeted:

Closest #ChickFilA to San Francisco is 40 miles away & I strongly recommend that they not try to come any closer.

For now, these progressive thugs have backed off, although we don’t know what’s going to happen with NYU, a private institution, but one that probably receives tax dollars and must follow federal law.

I recently wrote a post about NEO-COMS and their plans to force religious people and institutions out of the public sphere.  Illinois bishop, Daniel R. Jenky of the Diocese of Peoria, sees through the plan, which uses issues like gay marriage, abortion, and contraception against Catholics, in order to prevent them from providing health care, foster care, and adoption services. He gets it. Says Jenky,

Hitler and Stalin, at their better moments, would just barely tolerate some churches remaining open, but would not tolerate any competition with the state in education, social services, and health care. In clear violation of our First Amendment rights, Barack Obama – with his radical, pro abortion and extreme secularist agenda, now seems intent on following a similar path.

In my previous post, I wrote about how Catholic bishops are becoming mobilized this election, in defense of the religious rights of Catholics (and other Christians, by extension). The bishops warned that they would resist totalitarianism in a letter in which they made clear

that the free exercise of religion is being defined down to a bare “freedom of worship.” That is, religious people are allowed to think and pray as they want in their homes and churches, but they cannot follow the dictates of their conscience when they provide services to the public.

Christians are not to provide services to the public, and now they’re also not to speak publicly about their religious beliefs.

In the neo-com view, religious people should be forbidden to speak, to assemble, to donate to causes of their choice, and even to engage in commerce, if their beliefs are in opposition to the views of the neo-coms.


119 responses to “Christian? No Free Speech for YOU! (Open Thread)

  1. New open thread.

  2. What would be great is if Restaurant Chains in these cities would realize that even if they do not personally hold to Mr. Cathy’s own views, they see the freedom of speech and freedom of religion being taken away for all and withdraw their restaurants in protest. Mr. Rahm is basically saying he doesn’t want their money (taxes). That probably won’t happen unless all conservatives stop eating at these places and they lose enough money and have to close down.

    • Dar, I just realized that we look like twins! See our avatars? 🙂

      I personally would have to really be angry to boycott any company. I wouldn’t, though, go to Disney World on gay day, or whatever they call it. I am like, live and let live. So long as people aren’t in my face, which too often gay activists are. It’s not enough for them that we tolerate them. They want to FORCE us to think and believe differently. They want to FORCE us, under threat of shaming, shunning, punishing (by taking away our means of income), to at least PRETEND that we agree with them or at least we have to shut up. That’s what angers me. That they won’t be as tolerant of people who think differently as they expect us to be. Did you notice the threat by the Chicago alderman that Chick-fil-A HAS TO “work with” gay groups IN TERMS OF HIRING? What does that mean? There are already plenty of gay employees there, if you believe Shapiro’s article. What? Do they have to have a QUOTA now? Affirmative action and outreach? Will they expect them to keep statistics? How will that work? Are they supposed to, like cops have to guess at the race of people they stop, GUESS at someone’s sexual behavior and proclivities? I’m guessing that they’ll also be pressured to have gay days and donate to gay groups as a form of “punishment”. Did you notice the part about how they expected Mr. Cathy to APOLOGIZE? Apologize for what? His religious beliefs? For talking about his religious beliefs to a RELIGIOUS publication? It’s stupidity.

      • Dar, I just copy and pasted your comment on facebook as my all-time favorite comment about the Chik Fil A Fiasco. Thank you.

        • Your welcome. That was a day to remember for us. I never saw so many people in line to eat at a restaurant! It reminded me of the long lines to see/hear Sarah speak in Fall of ’08. I almost cried. If there is hope for America this day proved there is. God bless and protect America.

      • Ha Miri, I didn’t even pick an avatar! Guess we are twins. My hubby’s employer supports groups that we wouldn’t support. Ask that employees donate $ to specific causes and stresses not to tell anyone about these causes/groups they are asking him to donate to. Wow, and they give out special pins to wear so everyone can see. Isn’t that great.

        You made some good points. One of my friends informed me that public schools will be teaching about alternate lifestyles and that it will be illegal for the schools to notify the parents and also not legal for parents to opt out. Not sure if this was my state or all states. I am hearing second hand on this one.
        In response to some of your points… Does this mean an employer has to PROFILE????

        • WordPress picks the avatars for us. I didn’t pick mine either, but I’ve had it for years and now I’m used to it.

          Wow. Your hubby’s employers sound like jerks who’re unethically, if not illegally, intimidating employees. Special pins to humiliate those who don’t “cooperate”? Nice. I wonder what the board of directors or owners of the company would think? Is it that kind of a company or is it one guy?

          There has to be a reason WHY they tell the employees not to tell about the groups they’re being intimidated into giving money to.

          I once worked at a place that was into that public humilation thing. Posted lists of givers and non-givers. I didn’t give a whoop. I didn’t give to their cause because I already donated to the charities of my choice. The public humiliation ws exactly why I wouldn’t give. They actually sent people around from the HR dept. to ASK why any person didn’t “give”. I told them why–the arm twisting smacked of extortion and I give wherever I choose, thank you very much. Besides which, this same “charity” was active in another place I had worked. At that place, I didn’t agree to have my “donation” extracted from my paycheck, either. I didn’t sign the pledge card. Come payday, my “donation” was deducted anyway!!! My boss had FORGED my signature on the pledge card (and decided how much I was going to “donate”.) Decades later, I read that this “charity” got into trouble with the law for their heavy-handed tactics.

          I had the same experience in college, with that PIRG group. They somehow managed to get the schools to DEFAULT to making students “give” X amount of money under the guise of “student fees”. To get your money back, you had to go to the business office, fill out a long form explaining that you don’t choose to donate to PIRG (a liberal activist group pretending to be concerned with the public welfare), stand in line to hand in your non-pledge paperwork, and then wait a few weeks and THEN go to another office to pick up your refund check. Most students didn’t read the fine print and never realized that they could get their money back.

          What you said about public schools teaching alternative lifestyles is interesting. I read where they just passed a constitutional amendment (state constitution) in Missouri that states that children are FREE to pray in public schools, that they can opt out of any class assignment that is against their religious views, and that the Bill of Rights must be posted in every public school. Of course, the progressives went berserk about this ballot initiative. They said it was “unnecessary” because freedom of religion is already enshrined in both the U.S. and the State of MO constitutions. True. But obviously it was necessary, when you consider these sneaky classes in “alternative lifestyles.” They tried every way they could to get this off the ballot, but there it was last week and it passed by a huge majority, 83%.–abc-news-politics.html

          Now, after having said that the amendment was unnecessary because it repeats what the U.S. constitution says, the ACLU and other libs are, ironically, calling it unconstitutional, because it limits religious rights for prisoners to those specifically addressed by federal law.

          The ACLU filed suit “alleging the [STATE] amendment violates inmates’ [FEDERAL] 14th Amendment’s equal protection clause and the [Federal] First Amendment’s protection of religious freedom, because the Missouri Constitution provides more protections of religious liberty than the U.S. Constitution.

          “Think of the U.S. Constitution, which provides basic religious rights, as a cake, and the Missouri Constitution, which provided additional religious liberties, as the icing,” said ACLU-Eeastern Missouri legal director Tony Rothert in a statement. “The newly passed Amendment 2 will strip the icing off that cake for prisoners, and doing so perpetuates the stereotype that prisoners are inferior and less worthy of the protection of their right to prayer under the Missouri Constitution.””

          But the Constitution doesn’t “provide” any religious rights. We all have them from birth. From GOD. They preexist. NO Constitution gives them to us. We have them. PRISONERS give up some rights when they commit crimes.

          It always cracks me up, though, when progressives claim that a constitutional amendment is unconstitutional. I realize that in this case, they’re talking about the federal constitution; but there’s nothing in the federal constitution that prohibits states from ennumerating more rights. Any rights not enumerated in the U.S. Constitution are reserved to the STATES and to the PEOPLE.

  3. I read an article yesterday about Nuns who are having a conference soon where they will decide if they want to thwart their organization and the Vatican by opposing traditional Catholic views. I believe they were described as disobedient. The Vatican wants them to strictly follow the accepted creeds, while the nuns want to challenge the orthodoxy. I believe they were rebuked by the Pope or Cardinals. If the liberal nuns do go against the church, they were considering organizing and starting a new nun’s organization. ([I never knew the nun’s needed an organization – it sort of sounded like a union.) I thought the outspoken nuns might just be plants to cause problems. It was an article on NBC, so I took the information with a grain of salt because of the slant. I will look for it because my recollection might be incorrect.

    It is time for Christians to stand up tall just like they did for Chick-Fil-A and drown out the minority of atheists who think their non spiritual voice is louder. I believe the minority got a taste of the real majority watching the support for CFA. People aren’t willing to take much more from the God haters. People should start talking loudly about their beliefs – God is waiting! Over 70% of the US is Christian and it is time to remind these anti-religious heathens about that. No one needs to kowtow to their leftist tactics. I am not praying for them to be saved because they are too far gone. Their world of hate isn’t mine. I pity them having to live such unhappy lives that they think they can force us to change our religious beliefs. Totalitarianism/Fascism has never worked and is unacceptable to normal, rational thinking Americans.

    • After blistering Vatican report, nuns gather to weigh response
      August 7, 2012 Snips

      American nuns are gathering in St. Louis, Mo., this week for their organization’s yearly national assembly, where they are expected to discuss the future of their relationship with the Vatican following scathing criticism of the nuns’ alleged lack of fidelity to Catholic teachings.

      This spring, after a three-year investigation, the Vatican’s doctrinal watchdog issued a report questioning the organization’s loyalty to some Church teachings, including the nuns’ lack of outspokenness on issues such as gay marriage, abortion and contraception. Another concern voiced by the Vatican relates to conferences organized by the nuns featuring “a prevalence of certain radical feminist themes incompatible with the Catholic faith.”

      On April 18, the Vatican appointed Archbishop J. Peter Sartain of Seattle to oversee the nuns’ organization and reform its programs to adhere more closely to “the teachings and discipline of the Church.”

      This week, the nuns will discuss a range of options for the future, from accepting the Vatican’s mandate to starting a new organization independent of the church’s control.

      • Oh, yes. They are media darlings when they question the Church, especially those radical (sorry, and gay) nuns that tout radical “feminist” lingo and defy the “authoritarian” men in the hierarchy. Their lack of fidelity to Catholic teachings isn’t “alleged” if they’ve already been judged by a 3-year investigation to be guilty. Of course, that’s the lamestream’s interpretation.

        Can you believe they say the Church “lacks transparency?” I wonder if they think that God lacks transparency? It seems as simple as this to me: you’re Catholic or you’re not. It’s not like Pelosi and some of the Kennedys, who think they can just pick and choose. They can say they’re Catholic, but they’re not. It’s not a democracy. That’s what a religion is. You believe it or you don’t. If they don’t like it, then leave. You don’t take a vote and change the tenets of the religion. You join or you leave. Easy.

        You can’t take a poll from the general society and then say, oh. Ok. Most people want the Catholic Church to sanction abortion. They want the Church to say it’s okay; it’s not murder. Or they don’t like the setup in the Catholic Church, which interprets the teachings of Jesus to say that only men can be priests. If these radical feminist women don’t like it, then they can, like many have done, join the similar Episcopal Church and be priests in that religion.

        See what the Nun Justice group is: It includes the oxymoronic “Catholics for Choice”. As I said, they’re media and PROGRESSIVE NEO-COM darlings BECAUSE anything that diminishes, breaks up, or tears down any Christian church or religion is fine by them.

        “Nuns and their supporters have said that questioning the church’s teaching is not the same as disobeying it.”

        Uh, it is if the hierarchy says it is. If they don’t conform, then they’re disobeying. They’re mixing politics and religion. Just like the media and the neo-com progressives want and like. There’s so much politics involved in this whole thing. It goes to the hatred of the media and progressives for the Catholic Church, in particular, because of its stand against homosexual acts and abortion. They think the hierarchy is too active in anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion issues INSTEAD OF “social justice” and you know what those are code words for. It’s the new phraseology for “liberation theology,” which the late Pope John squelched. MARXISM. He knew a commie when he saw one. Even the Catholic Church is infiltrated.

        • This reminds me about threads where infiltration of the Catholic Church was discussed. These nuns could be part of that issue. The Bible talks about the separation of the wheat and the tares in the Last Days. My husband always like to comment, “if we aren’t living in the Last Days, this is what it is going to look like!”

  4. The Left just doesn’t know when to quit. Can we send a petition from the right to the publisher with 100,000 names?

    Petitions want Berenstain Bears out of Chick-fil-A campaign
    August 08, 2012 Associated Press

    PHILADELPHIA – The publisher of the Berenstain Bears children’s books is being urged to cut ties with Chick-fil-A because of its president’s statements opposing gay marriage.

    Three organizations said Wednesday they delivered petitions with 80,000 signatures to HarperCollins. The petitions demand the New York-based publishing house end the Berenstain Bears’ affiliation with the national fast-food chain and say the beloved bears teach the importance of standing against bigotry. [The Left should examine their own BIGOTRY!]

    The petitions urge HarperCollins to follow the lead of the Jim Henson Co., which pulled its Muppet toys from Chick-fil-A kids’ meals. [I hope it affects his pocketbook too! I doubt that the purchase of Muppets is a small nationwide order! Remember the groups that dropped Rush and are paying the price? Ooops, wrong choice for them. Wonder if the campaign was already over for the Muppets.]

    • Where is the “bigotry” in Chick-fil-A, the company, because the CEO happened to talk to reporters at a RELIGIOUS publication and said that (what else would you expect?) he supports the tenets of his religion?

      How about we start a petition to get Teletubbies, with the allegedly “gay” Tinky Winky, off of public TV? Better yet, how about a petition to get the bigoted-against-whites Eric Holder out of the DOJ? Or the bigoted-against-women any Muslim in our government’s employ who believes women are second-class citizens? We should, of course, boycott the Muppet toys because of that company’s hatred of Christians.

      • This nonsense from the progressives / liberals / leftists — that the name of God is only acceptable when used in a profanity — has gotten REALLY old.

        One of the things I liked best about the August 1 “National Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day” (hope I’ve given the name correctly) is that it served to not only piss the progressives / liberals / leftists off greatly, but to also remind us that we DO have the same First Amendment rights as those who defecate on police cars and the American flag. We DO have a voice. And when we all speak together, boy is that voice ever LOUD . . . 🙂

  5. Read about Obama’s “new” schemes for his 2nd term. His utopian communist ideas are being touted. People need to read history to know what they are trying to do. Oh the lofty ideals that have worked so well in Cuba, China, North Korea and Venezuela! Increased handouts – whoopee! Some of the same ideas that Lord Monckton wrote about that failed in G. Britain… Obama wants to try.

    Obama’s massive 2nd-term industry takeover plans
    Documented: Aim to expand bailouts across entire economy
    August 9, 2012

    Obama today boasted about government assistance to the auto industry while advocating extending such “success” to “every industry.” [Is GM a roaring success? How about all those green companies? He wants to keep investing our money in green companies that investors don’t want to touch!]

    A new book released this week details Obama’s second-term plans to do just that, including federal government intervention to determine the “value” of individual jobs in the private sector instead of allowing employers to pay what they want.[Bureaucrats will put a price on a job and everyone will be paid the same across the board!]

    Also on tap is the possible initiation of a massive government-funded jobs program that could even include the re-creation of a 21st century version of FDR’s Works Progress Administration program within the Department of Labor.

    • With welfare and bailouts for all
      August 10, 2012 | 4:40 am Snip

      He just can’t help himself. Yesterday in Pueblo, Colorado, President Obama told a cheering crowd: I believe in this American industry, and now the American auto industry has come roaring back and GM is number one again. So now I want to do the same thing with manufacturing jobs not just in the auto industry, but in every industry.

      Obama says he wants to do the same thing he did for the auto industry for every industry? That’s his plan? First of all, General Motors and the U.S. manufacturing sector is not as hot as Obama thinks it is. GM’s profits fell 41 percent last quarter and U.S. manufacturing shrank for the second straight month in July.But turning back to Obama’s bailouts, he ended up spending $80 billion on General Motors and Chrysler and both companies ended up declaring bankruptcy anyway. His administration then interfered with the bankruptcy process of both companies, undermining the rule of law and making it more expensive for every other distressed company in America to survive financially.

      Throughout the White House-led bankruptcy process, Obama repeatedly favored his union campaign contributors while shortchanging non-union employees. These interventions did not come cheap. A non-partisan independent study found that Obama’s interference with the rule of law cost taxpayers $26.5 billion. In other words, if Obama had not interfered with the bankruptcy process, taxpayers would have gained $3.5 billion on the auto bailout, instead of losing $23 billion.And now Obama wants to bring this “success” to every other industry in America? We can’t afford it.

      • 80 BILLION dollars….no wonder we are broke…
        BILLION. Just one hit…

      • One must remember the liberal mindset is almost as a mental disorder. They use same words but opposite or different meanings. Before translating an Obama speech one needs to check “his” dictionary. “Success” …a word used to describe the destruction of an industry or company a collectivist ideologue wants to take over. “UP” is down. When he destroys something it is to his success because of his agenda. We filter his words through our dictionary and it passes as a positive word. Hence all the fainting groupies. They only hear what they think he is saying; NOT what he is saying. How many of us figured this all out over 5 years ago! OMg, I can’t believe we have been dealing with this for so long. We have to vote Barry , Moo, and ValJar OUT.
        P.S. Since VJ makes all the decisions, isn’t she more the prez? Is she illegally running this country? It seems the women run the country and they just tell him to go out and play while the adults talk.

  6. Not good for Mitt, The Republicans, or the country. Many will just say if Mitt and Romney are both surrounded by Socialists, just stick with who we have. At least we know what to expect from him.

    • It’s not good. It’s disgusting. Just what we need, ANOTHER issue they can diffuse Barry’s negatives with. Romney had BETTER come out against socialism NOW. And he’d better pick a TEA PARTY VP, someone who will speak out against COMMUNISM. What the HELL are the Republicans doing? Are they insane?

    • Look what Ann Coulter has to say about how Romney’s spokesperson responded to the lying ad that blamed him for a woman’s death:

      Instead of attacking their premise, the spokesperson touts ROMNEYCARE. Amazing. Is this 2008 redux with a candidate that is putting on a show but plans to lose?

      • Is this the same person that others told Romney to fire for his answers to some other question? There was one person that was supposedly a Lefty that had changed their stripes and moved to the conservative side. There were a group of big donors that spoke out about this guy/gal. I can’t recall the name, but I know I read about it.

        No, as I think about it there was a gay guy that others wanted fired, along with one that was traveling with Mitt and told a reporter to Kiss his class ring! (so I cleaned it up a bit!)

        • I like the guy who told reporters to kiss his bum! 🙂 Romney need more like that, not less. When will the Republicans learn that NO amount of pandering, playing kiss-up, flattering, giving access, kowtowing, or submitting to the lamestream will EVER be enough? They will never be liked by the media. McLame learned that in 2008. He thought he would be different. They loved him, until he got the nomination and then … Romney should get Sarah Palin for an advisor, if not for VP. Or Christie, at least. He NEEDS somebody who will be “no more Mr. (or Mrs.) Nice Guy” with the media. Giuliani? I’d love that.

          As with the Bachmann campaign, it looks like DemoncRAT infiltrators are everywhere. Stealth “conservatives”. They are NOT to be trusted. Another page that the Republicans should take from Obama: All close advisors and campaign people should be those he’s personally known for years and knows he can trust. A cabal, if you will. Except that Romney really has no tradition as a conservative, has he?

          • Except that Romney really has no tradition as a conservative, has he?


          • Christie is now under fire for his dealings with the Muslims in his district.
            Trump is doing a great job of telling the story. He still gets in the news when he talks.

            I think the Republicans are holding back right now because it is summer and according to statistics, people aren’t interested in politics. They start listening after Labor Day. We’ll see how things change after the Convention.

          • I think John Bolton would make an outstanding VP. Doubt he has a snowball’s chance in Hell, but it would sure be great . . .

          • I can see Bolton as Secretary of State where his expertise is needed. He certainly has the experience and knowledge. Very seldom do I see anyone say that he is wrong in his assessments.

            Whoever is chosen must be experienced and able to take the President’s place if something happens to him. That would not include the young ones like Marco Rubio who is not eligible anyway. We have too many lackies in government now who were ill prepared to be placed into positions.

            O/T But I want to know what all of these Czars were doing, who they bullied and what regulations they put in place or changed while working in this administration. I want everything they did revoked and all of them outed as anti-Americans. How much were they paid? Am I asking for too much transparency?

    • The advertising campaign for the DemoncRats is in the sewer. It is absolutely appalling. It reflects on the kind of people that make up the DemoncRat Party. Just when you didn’t think they could sink any lower, they do. And to think there are 3 more months of this smut to live through.


    Didn’t Pelosi forget Margaret Sanger? Surely she was there with her, too.

    • Not a good sign at her age to be hearing and seeing things. Yeah, that is so believable. That Nancy Pelosi is one connected woman, for sure. And the next séance will be occurring at the next full moon. Those early feminists were all clamoring for the same chair as well? One seat fits all! Those pro-life women were there to tell Nancy what they thought about her communist ideas and chastise her for supporting eugenics. I guess Nancy didn’t get the message. They weren’t there to say, You’ve come a long way baby!

      • And they made fun of Nancy Reagan just for dabbling in astrology, which many people do. Not I, but to each her own. This borders on hallucinations. Remember that Hillary talked with Eleanor Roosevelt?

        This must be what passes for “spirituality” among the neo-coms. It sounds as if the pro-life ghosts were shoving Nancy out of her chair! Or sitting on her lap.

        That isn’t a good sign at her age, but there’s always the possibility that she’s been sampling too much of the family wares. Do they drug test Congress? They should! Wasn’t it a Kennedy who ran his car into the Capitol? I wonder if anybody in the Obama administration brings “choom” into the public buildings. Or “blow”. I’d be willing to wager they do. I have a vision of my own: The Capital police frog-marching Barry out of OUR house for possession.

    I’m getting SO numbed out … so since they say “we killed her”
    Did she SMOKE heavy (& second hand smoke is deadly also) or DRINK?
    Did she just fear Doctors? Or was she WHITE as the driven snow?
    I demand the TRUTH HERE… Better informed makes better judgements!
    Ilyona “Ranae” Soptic …. born 9/10/50 & … died 6/22/06 age 51
    ( & she would be 56 now) so bless you & RIP Mrs. Soptic

    • Another despicable ad. This one even had Wolf Blitzer from CNN going after Burton about all of the lies and innuendos in it. Burton who was responsible for the PAC’s ad, tried to justify it to no avail. I was really amazed that Wolf went after him.

      Have they hired a new producer at CNN too? The head honcho is leaving, but that isn’t until after the election. Has CNN left Obama? Are they now moving to the middle? With Turner at the helm, it is doubtful, yet Ted surely doesn’t want to lose money on his investment.

      • I’ve been amazed at CNN, too, but sometimes I wonder if their “coverage” of these anti-Romney ads is to give them free air time under the guise of “news”. Do they play the anti-Obama ads, too, before they talk about them?

  9. Its not only a violation by the politicians of freedom of speech based on viewpoint discrimantion but also a violation of equal protection. Denying a business permit to operate in the city for something that is not legitimate and not applied neutrally is completely unconstitutional. I mean how completely clueless they are. No wonder they trample on the constitution – they have no idea what it means.

    • Exactly. It’s scary that they are SO BLATANT about it. The alderman even laughed about how he had “cover” for the discrimination–he planned to use the excuse that the Chick-fil-A would cause “traffic problems” when the REAL reason, which he admitted, was that he was offended by the religious views of one man who has a constitutional right to hold them and to speak about them. So this guy, who likely pretends to be all for the “little guy” and the underprivileged, would deny them JOBS at Chick-fil-A, because HE doesn’t like the religion of the CEO of Chick-fil-A.

  10. Janet Napolitano-run Homeland Security treated male staffers like lapdogs, federal discrimination lawsuit charges

    James Hayes Jr., who now is New York’s top Homeland Security cop, claims Napolitano filled top spots in Washington, D.C., with two of her gal pals who were bent on tormenting male employees.
    Bryan Pace/for New York Daily NewsDora Schriro
    August 9, 2012 Snips

    Looks like the Department of Homeland Security could be renamed the Department of Hyper Sexuality.

    A blistering federal discrimination suit accuses agency honcho Janet Napolitano of turning the department into a female-run “frat house” where male staffers were banished to the bathrooms and routinely humiliated.

    The suit identified them as Dora Schriro, who is now running the city Department of Correction, and Suzanne Barr, the chief of staff for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    Soon after Schriro and Barr were hired in January 2009, male staffers were treated like lapdogs, Hayes claims. Barr “moved the entire contents of the offices of three employees, including name plates, computers and telephones, to the men’s bathroom at ICE headquarters,” the suit says. Barr also stole a male staffer’s BlackBerry and fired off a message to his female supervisor indicating that he “had a crush on [her] and fantasized about her,” Hayes claims. Sometimes, Barr took a more direct approach. In one case, she called a male colleague in his hotel room and screamed at him using sexually humiliating language, the suit says.

  11. Who is a real Leftist? Not Obama. To them he is a conservative! The hard left sees him this way, so they are out in force to spin him as one. New Trial balloon, perhaps. Guess the polls say that conservatives are winning so the conman, chameleon man, will put on his conservative panties today. Anything for a Marxist win!

    New liberal spin: Obama’s a conservative

    August 8, 2012 | 3:47 pm Snips

    Liberals upset with Barack Obama’s few compromises with the GOP have a new moniker for the president many consider the most left ever: “Deeply conservative.”

    Academics and liberal pundits have started talking about Obama as right-of-center politically just as he has begun to reach out to independents and moderates in his reelection campaign.

    Some are true critics who wish he would do more for labor and welfare recipients and implement tougher carbon limits on coal plants. Others are trying to portray Obama as a middle-of-of-the-roader attractive to moderate voters, not the liberal Mitt Romney attacks daily.

    The latest claim that Obama’s a conservative is being made by pundit Paul Street and University of Illinois political professor Anthony DiMaggio in a long review of the Tea Party in the influential journal Critical Sociology. In it they call Obama “deeply conservative” and eager enough for victories that he “caves in” to the GOP.

  12. One month is too short. Keep this guy off CNN for good. Quite astounding that he got caught and punished! Many of his statements on CNN were anti-American. I believe he is an anti-Semite as well. I am trying to recall, but I think he sided with CAIR or is associated with them. I remember watching interviews and he was against Israel and his bias showed.

    Zakaria suspended for copying other writer’s work [How nice – they didn’t use the word – PLAGIARISM!]
    August 9, 2012 Snip

    NEW YORK (AP) — Columnist and TV host Fareed Zakaria has apologized for lifting [plagiarizing] several paragraphs by another writer for use in his column in Time magazine. His column has been suspended for a month. Zakaria said in a statement Friday he made “a terrible mistake,” adding, “It is a serious lapse and one that is entirely my fault.”

    In a separate statement, Time spokesman Ali Zelenko said the magazine accepts Zakaria’s apology, but would suspend his column for one month, “pending further review.”
    Besides serving as an editor-at-large at Time, Zakaria is a Washington Post columnist and the host of CNN’s foreign-affairs show, “GPS.”

    • Tripped up by depending too much on the JournOlist talking points? This is rather bizarre, when you think about it. He repeated some line about how “guns were regulated in the U.S. from the earliest years of the Republic.” (Which, btw, is probably NOT EVEN TRUE.) But don’t you think it’s likely that this statement by this “historian” was passed out to all the complicit media obots to use in their own articles and somebody forgot to include the citation? How often do we read the same talking points over and over again, ad nauseum, from multiple members of the JournOlist? Whatever. Good riddance, even if only for a month.

  13. This article fits right in with your “free speech for thee” theme!

    • You can’t be doing this in line,” he said.

      “Why is that?” I asked.

      No answer. “I’m sorry,” I said. “I can’t do what in line?”

      “You can’t be interviewing people in line,” he said.

      I asked him repeatedly who he was and why interviews were banned.

      Those inquiries were met with silence. At one point he grabbed my microphone, and released it when I asked him to.

      I decided to try speaking to a couple who were approaching, but not yet in the line. A different campaign operative approached and the same thing happened. He also refused to identify himself.

      Later, inside the gym, I was in the assigned media pen and chatting across the rope line with Dieterle, who I’d tried to interview earlier. Another Obama press aide, Desiree Peterkin Bell came and politely told me that wasn’t permitted.

      Dieterle by the way was troubled by what had happened, and called the interference of campaign aides “un-American.”

      When I asked Peterkin-Bell why I wasn’t allowed to talk to a member of the public across the rope line, she said that I know how these things work, or words to that effect.

      TU Rocker, and this name fits into so many of our posts too….

      See that ?
      So cute…

      Kin/Kent/Kenn/ Kenney, Kennedy, KenMORE,Kinsey, McKenzie etc…
      tricky …
      Desiree name again ? Like Rogers that was in the gate crasher thing ? Her mom was the voodoo princess..Rogers connection here…we have posts on that name too Rocker, greasy hot dogs as well as Dear John Letters…funny.

      • They aren’t to interview Obama supporters because they accidentally might tell the truth about why they support Barry–for his communist views. Second possibility: The Obots don’t have TOTUS or talking points, like the media, so the only way to control what they say is by making sure they can’t speak.

  14. Obamacare Mandate: Sterilize 15-Year-Old Girls for Free–Without Parental Consent
    By Sabrina Gladstone
    August 10, 2012 Snip

    Thanks to an Obamacare regulation that took effect on Aug. 1, health care plans in Oregon will now be required to provide free sterilizations to 15- year-old girls even if the parents of those girls do not consent to the procedure.

    Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius finalized the regulation earlier this year.

    It says that all health care plans in the United States–except those provided by actual houses of worship organized under the section of the Internal Revenue Code reserved for churches per se–must provide coverage, without cost-sharing, for sterilizations and all Food and Drug Administration-approved contraceptives to “all women with reproductive capacity.”

    In practical terms, “all women with reproductive capacity” means girls as young as about 12. That, according to the National Institutes of Health, is when girls usually start menstruating.

    • This makes my blood boil! Eugenics/master race in full swing. This is pure, unadulterated evil at work. As dear Nancy Pelosi said, you have got to read it to know what is in it! Sarah Palin warned everyone there were indeed death panels who will determine whether you will live or die, and now we learn that these population control freaks snuck into Obamacare another population control method; sterilization. Death by Neutering! If this isn’t a war on women, I don’t know what else to call it! Free choice at age 15 or lower? Free sterilization must also be offered to all college women!

      Whoever wrote this section is considering people as pets and acting like they are the Humane Society where neutering of pets is mandatory. Now in comparison, we have the “Human Society.” Think about it, you can get chipped at the same time if they add a section to Obamacare called “Chipped and Clipped!” (good grief, it might already be there.)

      The Catholic bishops were behind and supported Obamacare. Will they continue to support the most dangerous administration in our history?

    • Sterilize? This is like Sanger’s eugenics. Or MENGELE. A girl that young can’t even get a Midol for cramps from the school nurse without her parents’ permission, but she can be sterilized? This is outrageous. A girl that young can’t even engage in sex with an adult, otherwise the adult is charged with statutory RAPE because she’s too young to consent. But she can consent to sterilization? What child that young can make a determination that somewhere later in life, she won’t change her mind and want children? Good point made in the story: They can just forge the forms. Scary. And none of the DemoncRATS questioned acted as if they knew about it or would answer questions about it.

  15. Red Alert: It’s Open Season on All Customer Funds
    Posted by Ann Barnhardt – August 10, AD 2012 3:33 PM MST

    The NFA [National Futures Association],in collusion with the banksters, government and judiciary have achieved their goal. The entire concept of “customer segregated funds” is officially, completely, legally dead.

    Guys, it is OVER. I know that many of you are still cowering in normalcy bias, unable to deal with reality, unable to face the world as it is, but you have GOT to snap out of it. The marketplace is DESTROYED. You CANNOT be in these markets. All legal protections are now officially gone.

    What this means is that even if Jon Corzine is somehow dragged into court by private citizens, because you know damn good and well that the Justice Department will never, ever touch him, Corzine now has a legal precedent, likely from a bribed or otherwise coerced Federal Appeals Court, explicitly stating that an FCM [Futures Commission Merchant] can use customer deposits to pay its debts, and that the customers themselves are subjugated and have basically no legal right to their own monies, no matter what the law says, or what legal assurances, claims or guarantees are made to that customer about their funds held with an FCM or any other brokerage or depository institution. The “secured” party at the front of the line will always be the mega-bank who made the fraudulent loan using the stolen customer funds as collateral.

    In other words, all customer funds in the United States are now the legal property of JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, BNYM, or whichever megabank is the counterparty on the loans the FCM or depository institution takes out in order to fund its mega-levered proprietary in-house trading desks.

  16. These people are sick. Are they drugged when they think up these ideas or just mentally unstable?

    Gross… Code Pink to Send Photos of Their Vaginas to RNC Convention
    August 10, 2012 Snip

    The radical anti-American Code Pink group is encouraging their members to send snapshots of their vaginas to the RNC Convention in Tampa, Florida. LifeNews reported: Taking the silly “War on Women” rhetoric to another disgusting level, the pro-abortion feminists at CodePink have come up with a new campaign: Send your vaginas to the Republican convention. Upset that Republicans and presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney support religious freedom for groups opposing the Obama HHS mandate and wants to end taxpayer funding for the Planned Parenthood abortion business, CodePink thinks it has a great idea on how to respond.

    • Would that not be a crime? If someone sent me such a photo, I’d call the cops. Don’t men get arrested for flashing? What’s the freaking difference? Unsolicited pornography? What if children see it? They are PIGS.

      Are they going to ensure that the “women” doing this are all over the age of consent? Otherwise, are they encouraging child pornography? Do they hope that any unsuspecting Republican in possession of a photo of an underaged vagina will get arrested for child pornography? What PIGS. These aren’t women. I don’t know what they are, but they’re not women and they certainly don’t speak for me.

      • Oh, wait! I misunderstood. Commented before I read the link. They want “artistic representations” not photographs. I guess they ran it past the lawyers. How long before they plagiarize Georgia O’Keefe’s pics?

  17. At Ramadan dinner, Obama calls Clinton aide a “patriot” (Huma Abedin)
    Friday, August 10, 2012 8:56:42 PM · by Free ThinkerNY
    Reuters ^ | August. 10, 2012 Snip

    (Reuters) – President Barack Obama on Friday called Huma Abedin, a top aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, an “American patriot” after a group of Republican lawmakers accused her of having ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist political organization.

    “She has been nothing less than extraordinary in representing our country and the democratic values that we hold dear,” Obama said at a White House Iftar dinner celebrating the Islamic holy month of Ramadan. “The American people owe her a debt of gratitude because Huma is an American patriot and an example of what we need in this country…more public servants with her sense of decency, her grace and her generosity of spirit.”

    In June, Representative Michele Bachmann along with four other Republican lawmakers questioned Abedin’s security clearance in a letter to the State Department’s inspector general. They suggested members of her family had connections to the Muslim Brotherhood, which the writers said may be seeking access to high levels of the U.S. government.

    “If my family members were associated with Hamas, a terrorist organization, that alone could be sufficient to disqualify me from getting a security clearance,” Bachmann said on conservative host Glenn Beck’s talk show.

    Abedin, a Muslim, was seated on Obama’s right at the dinner and appeared visibly moved as the president spoke to a room full of religious leaders, elected officials and diplomats.

    • Since when does she “represent” us? We owe her nothing, maybe not even the paycheck she collects. She owes it to our REAL representatives to answer the questions they ask on our behalf and she owes WE THE PEOPLE a copy of her background check. Answers to whether or not she TRUTHFULLY repsonded to the questions asked about her family’s connections to alleged terrorist organizations.

  18. Obama’s slumdog brother: Meet the hopeless drunk from a Nairobi shanty town who is the U.S. President’s BROTHER
    Whilst the President inhabits the luxurious surroundings of the Oval Office and flies aboard Air Force One, his half-brother George Obama lives in a notorious African slum
    George [Hussein] Obama has battled addictions to drink and drugs for most of his life at the same time as his relative has enjoyed a meteoric rise to power
    The 30-year-old, who was once hooked on cocaine, says that his surname is frequently a burden to him

    By Andrew Malone
    10 August 2012 Snips

    Details of his unorthodox lifestyle emerged with news that he has agreed to appear in a documentary film being made by one of Barack Obama’s most trenchant critics.Called 2016, and directed by the production team behind Schindler’s List, the film sets out the supposed horrors of another four years of Obama in office — though George does not criticise the President on screen. It is the idea of U.S. author Dinesh D’Souza, whose book The Roots Of Obama’s Rage paints a deeply unflattering portrait of the ‘narcissistic’ President.
    But, as I discovered, this may prove beyond George. Indeed, standing — let alone talking much sense or walking in a straight line — is tricky for the U.S. President’s brother much of the time, due to his chronic addiction to drink and years of drug abuse.Nor is there anything heroic and altruistic about his motives for living in the slums. His principal reason is that the potent local moonshine is cheap and readily available here, as is cocaine, heroin and marijuana.[A genetic problem?]

    Clearly following the dictum that the best place to hide a tree is in a forest, George’s decision to settle in a slum called Huruma — which is scarred by alcoholism, drug addiction and violence — means his own destructive behaviour attracts little attention.

    • Lots of photos. I thought the last article we read about George after penning a book, he had moved into an apartment. Now we see him again in front of his hovel. I hadn’t read far enough – he spent all his money from the book. Will he become a movie star?

      George first met his now-famous sibling in a playground when he was at primary school. Barack was a young visitor to Nairobi just a few years after their father died in a car crash. George recalls he was playing football when his brother arrived to say hello. The second time their paths crossed was when Obama — then a Senator — was on a tour of East Africa in 2006, and visited Nairobi to see his family. They shook hands — the two utterly different worlds they inhabited coming together under the African sun.

      Eventually, he [Barack Sr.] returned to Kenya — leaving Barack in Hawaii — and his heavy drinking spiralled out of control: after fathering George to his fourth wife Jael in Kenya, he died six months after the birth in a car crash in 1982.

      The money from his book — reputed to have been an eight million Kenyan shilling advance (£61,000) — went on drink, drugs and a two-month sojourn with his hangers-on in Mombasa, the country’s stunning beach resort.And despite his claims that he chooses to stay in his one-room shack, he is only there because he has spent all his money. Friends tell me he used to live in a much bigger house in a better area, and is given the room in Huruma now for free out of charity because he is down on his luck.

      • Again with the “nothing adds up” stories. I remember that they originally claimed George was in kindergarten. Now it’s a few years after their father died. Well, he died in 1982. A “few years” to me is about 3. How about you? He may have met Barry when he was in “primary” school, but Barry was in Kenya before that. I remember that Malik said they grew up together IN KENYA. I didn’t know or remember that George’s stepfather was white.

    • Bridgette, I was just getting ready to post that one! Great minds.

      This is amazing, isn’t it? I can’t believe he drinks that stuff. I remember us talking about it before. We linked to some story about the people there in Barry’s village being addicted to that stuff. After looking at these newer photos of George, I’m rethinking my belief that he looks that much like Barry. My gosh, but he looks terrible, doesn’t he? What a shame. Only 30 years old and throwing his life and his health away. So Barry is certainly NOT his brother’s keeper. Look how his brother lives, while Barry hobnobs with the rich and famous and fawns over Huma Weiner. Did you notice how the writer first called Barry “Kenya’s most famous son?” Only later does he say he was born in Hawaii. So tell me how he can be KENYA’S son! Still, the wastrel ways, the additions to sex and drugs. There might be some blood relationship there.

    • Another article about George Obama. (I haven’t read this one yet).

      Op-Ed: Obama’s African heritage of drug abuse and anti-colonial hatred
      By JohnThomas Didymus
      Aug 11, 2012

      • Are they dragging out George because he looks the most like Barry and they fear the FMD is the dad story?

      • How can his story be a story of “survival” when he looks to be on death’s door? How can his story be “inspiring?” He’s wasted the money he got for the book. He’s still an addict. Addicted to a DEADLY substance that causes blindness and death. He’s living in squalor. That’s inspirational? What a sad, sad story. Sad outcome. What a waste. So the lamestream spins George’s story for him, the same way they spin Barry’s lies.


    Remember that name: TRAPWIRE. A cross-country surveillance system. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU.

    Thanks to Wikileaks, we now know. Maybe this is what Rand Paul was talking about when he said “gazillions:”

    “[H]ere’s what Trapwire is, according to Russian-state owned media network RT (apologies for citing “foreign media”… if we had a free press, I’d be citing something published here by an American media conglomerate): “Former senior intelligence officials have created a detailed surveillance system more accurate than modern facial recognition technology—and have installed it across the U.S. under the radar of most Americans, according to emails hacked by Anonymous.

    Every few seconds, data picked up at surveillance points in major cities and landmarks across the United States are recorded digitally on the spot, then encrypted and instantaneously delivered to a fortified central database center at an undisclosed location to be aggregated with other intelligence. It’s part of a program called TrapWire and it’s the brainchild of the Abraxas, a Northern Virginia company staffed with elite from America’s intelligence community. [Is this where obot central is, too?]

    The employee roster at Arbaxas reads like a who’s who of agents once with the Pentagon, CIA and other government entities according to their public LinkedIn profiles, and the corporation’s ties are assumed to go deeper than even documented. The details on Abraxas and, to an even greater extent TrapWire, are scarce, however, and not without reason. For a program touted as a tool to thwart terrorism and monitor activity meant to be under wraps, its understandable that Abraxas would want the program’s public presence to be relatively limited. But thanks to last year’s hack of the Strategic Forecasting intelligence agency, or Stratfor, all of that is quickly changing.”

    So: those spooky new “circular” dark globe cameras installed in your neighborhood park, town, or city—they aren’t just passively monitoring. They’re plugged into Trapwire and they are potentially monitoring every single person via facial recognition.”

    On a related note, considering that the Tea Party is now being war-gamed as an insurrectionist threat, the Insane Clown Posse and their fans are being considered a “criminal gang” by the FBI, which they plan to SUE over the designation.

    (Please don’t ask me who they are; I don’t know, but they seem to be a “music” group, not much worse than Snoop Dog. Wait! I forgot his new name. Something to do with Rastafarians. Oh, Snoop Lion. That’s it. Is the FBI watching him?)

    • Wikileaks was going to publish emails about this Trapwire when they were pulled off the Web by denial of service attacks. Hmm. Was that an effort by Barry’s peeps?

      “The DDoS attack commenced just as WikiLeaks started to post a collection of emails obtained by hacking group Anonymous from U.S. intelligence firm Stratfor about a secret surveillance program. WikiLeaks referred to the surveillance system, known as TrapWire, and said, “Yes, WikiLeaks revealed a whole bunch of documents on #Trapwire, no, you can’t read them easily, because of the current DDOS attack.””

      We the People have a RIGHT to know who is watching us, who’s paying for this, and WHY. I don’t agree with Wikileaks tactics, either, but sometimes this might be the ONLY way We the People learn WTF our government is doing. Who are these people and why are they watching us, spying on us, creating databases of who we are and where we go and what we do? This is got to stop. The best thing Ryan said today was that, basically, he and Romney know and respect the FACT that THEY WORK FOR US.

      • These cameras are in STORES, CASINOS, and other businesses. On streets. In parks. EVERYWHERE. The pdf of the system, while it’s still online:

        “for protecting critical infrastructure” And Barry is warning that they’re going to use executive power to ram through “cybersecurity” rules because that darned intransigent Congress wouldn’t do it.

        That company’s management:

        fyi: Abraxas was an insane angel. “Among certain mystical sects, including some early Christian mystics, it was believed that the Earth was created not by God, but by a blind insane angel by the name of Abraxas who, in his madness, believed that he himself was God.” Seems we have our own insane clown posse right in this government. They think THEY’RE gods. (But I bet it’s more likely that they’re crony-capitalists and FOBs–Friends of Barry.)

        This story has more detail. Yes, they could use this perhaps to stop ISLAMIC JIHADIST attacks, but what else do they plan to use it for? To suppress the political activities of the Tea Party? Potential domestic terrorists like 70-year-old Tea Partiers, that just might become “insurrectionists”? Where is the oversight? Who pays for this? Who controls it? Does our Congress know about and CONDONE and APPROVE this, or is it all hidden from them?

    • More from the Business Insider story:

      So we have a widespread network of surveillance cameras across America monitoring us and reporting suspicious activity back to a centralized analysis center, mixed in with the ability to imprison people via military force on the basis of suspicious activity alone. I don’t see how that could possibly go wrong. Nope, not at all. We all know the government, and algorithmic computer programs, never make mistakes.

      Here’s what is also so disturbing about this whole NDAA business: “This past week’s hearing was even more terrifying. Government attorneys again, in this hearing, presented no evidence to support their position and brought forth no witnesses. Most incredibly, Obama’s attorneys refused to assure the court, when questioned, that the NDAA’s section 1021 – the provision that permits reporters and others who have not committed crimes to be detained without trial – has not been applied by the U.S. government anywhere in the world after Judge Forrest’s injunction. In other words, they were telling a U.S. federal judge that they could not, or would not, state whether Obama’s government had complied with the legal injunction that she had laid down before them. To this, Judge Forrest responded that if the provision had indeed been applied, the United States government would be in contempt of court.””

      Obama is already in contempt of court, Congress, and the American people. He already ignored a subpoena. He already refuses to prove he’s eligible for the office in the first place. He already threw a man in prison for daring to question him (LTC Lakin). He already IGNORES the laws regarding immigration and voting rights violations (if the victim is white). He already ignores the Constitution by setting up his shadow government of unelected and unconfirmed-by-Congress CZARS. He already ignored bankruptcy laws.


  20. I would be tempted to laugh at that characterization of the fans of a rock group as a criminal gang that needs to be watched by the FBI, but they call them this because

    “ICP fans, better known as Juggalos, [are] a “concern to law enforcement” due to their “general destructive and violent nature.”

    While the report states that most crimes committed by Juggalos are small-time, an increasing amount of fans are upping the ante.

    “Most crimes committed by Juggalos are sporadic, disorganised, individualistic and often involve a simple assault, personal drug use and possession, petty theft, and vandalism.”

    “However, open source reporting suggests that a small number of Juggalos are forming more organized subsets and engaging in more gang-like criminal activity, such as felony assaults, thefts, robberies, and drug sales.””

    Hmmm. Assault, drug use, possession, vandalism, theft, ORGANIZATION. SOUNDS LIKE THE OCCUPIERS TO ME. I wonder if THEY’RE on this list of “criminal gangs”? (Nope. I looked.)

    Another story points out that the ICP fans are a concern because there are ex-military in their ranks!!!

    Hmmmm. Anybody remember seeing guys at Occupy events claiming to be veterans? Seems so. Here’s the report:

    Some of those Occupiers did paint their faces like clowns and jokers.

  21. Miri… for the last few months I have worn a paper Joe Biden mask….
    no one know who the heck that guy is anyway…. so why do we pay him
    a salary $$$$ ? just say…. so ready for some red white and blue….

  22. Obama Issues Executive Order To Respond To Violence Against Females Globally
    August 11, 2012 by Tim Brown Snips

    On Friday Barack Obama issued an Executive Order on Preventing and Responding to Violence Against Women and Girls Globally. The administration claims that it is to further enhance its efforts to advance the rights and status of women and girls, to promote gender equality in U.S. foreign policy, and to bring about a world in which all individuals can pursue their aspirations without the threat of violence.

    The EO creates an inter-agency working group that is co-chaired by the Secretary of State and the Administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID). [Hillary and the corrupt USAID = Perfect! I wonder what this will cost taxpayers!] It also directs departments and agencies to implement the new United States Strategy to Prevent and Respond to Gender-based Violence Globally.
    According to the EO, it will ensure that agencies within the federal government prioritize this issue in their implementation of foreign policy. Since it is a long term policy, there are requirements to update or revise the Strategy after three years.

    • Another Executive Order! What is behind this EO? An EO for the LBGT Vote? There is something here that we don’t know about. This is what Clinton did..created agencies and funneled money to them – the money never to be seen again or accounted for. USAID needs to be audited just like the Fed. Reserve. Why is he circumventing Congress regarding this? This is a human rights issue, but what is it that we need to do globally? We can’t do anything other than talk to countries about these issues and that is supposedly done by Hillary (although these issues weren’t brought up in China when she was there begging for money). The US doesn’t govern other countries so I don’t know what this is based on.

    • Will this include outlawing “sharia-based” violence against women? Female circumcision? “Honor” killings? Forcing 12-year-olds to marry old men? Sex trafficking?

    • “to promote gender equality in U.S. foreign policy,”

      Okaaay. WHO is in charge of our foreign policy? OBAMA.


      If not, then what does he need to “promote”? Sounds like an admission of guilt to me. He’s had four years, so why is our foreign policy only now looking to become “gender equal?” Oh, wait. GENDER, not SEX equality. Is that what he means? Gay rights, globally?

  23. Par for the course! I hate to use the Socialist website, but that is where this straight forward article is. It is a news piece not an opinion piece. The Socialists are aware of Obama’s corruption. Will they back him again?

    US drops investigations of Goldman Sachs
    By Barry Grey
    11 August 2012 Snips

    The US Justice Department announced Thursday evening it was ending a one-year criminal investigation and would not file charges against the giant Wall Street investment bank Goldman Sachs or any of its employees.
    In releasing the report, the chairman of the committee, Senator Carl Levin of Michigan, [Democrat] said the panel’s two-year probe had found “a financial snake pit rife with greed, conflicts of interest and wrongdoing.” He recommended that charges be brought and said, “In my judgment, Goldman clearly misled their clients and they misled Congress.”

    In its statement released Thursday, the Justice Department said it had conducted “an exhaustive review of the report,” but concluded that “based on the law and evidence as they exist at this time, there is not a viable basis to bring a criminal prosecution with respect to Goldman Sachs or its employees in regard to the allegations set forth in the report.”

    There is not a shred of credibility in this assertion. In the course of its investigation, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations amassed 56 million pages of memos, documents, prospectuses and emails. The section of its report on Goldman Sachs gave chapter and verse, provided dates and named names, to meticulously document how the bank defrauded its clients by selling them mortgage securities while betting against the same investments, without telling them it was doing so.

    “We are pleased that this matter is behind us,” a bank spokesman said Thursday of the Justice Department decision. [I bet you are! How much is being given to Obama’s campaign for having the AG stop this investigation?]
    These two actions are part of an ongoing government cover-up of financial fraud and criminality on a massive scale, both before and after the 2008 crash. They underscore the duplicity behind President Barack Obama’s announcement last January of the formation of a Justice Department task force to investigate banking practices in the mortgage industry.

    The Obama administration, like its Republican predecessor, is at the center of a corrupt nexus between Wall Street and all of the branches of the government—the presidency, Congress and the courts. The financial oligarchy operates with impunity, standing above the law as it manipulates and swindles to capture an ever greater share of the social wealth. Every government agency, from the White House on down, is directly or indirectly on the bankers’ payroll.

    • Why did you not highlight “like its Republican predecessor” in the last paragraph? Please don’t help either side with the cool-aid. This is how you fix the deficit. Seize their assets…….not SS and Medicare. The problem is that the corruption is so bad and we have been lied to so much, that their is no real money anywhere! We have to take it back from those who stole it. It’s our only hope. Congress needs to grow a pair! Give me a candidate that wants to go after this corruption!

      • Now you’re talking about seizing people’s assets? Whose? All those people that Barry spent our money on, leaving an IOU in the Social Security “lockbox”? You can’t take back what doesn’t exist. It’s gone. To give “crazy checks” to “disabled” infants. To inflate the cost of EVERY public work, because they need to add in the expense of “minority contractors” who are just another layer of useless people taking a cut. To give food stamps to people who don’t need them. To give unemployment benefits to people who are working. To give welfare to ILLEGAL aliens. To give Medicaid money to doctors submitting false invoices. To Solyndra and all the other Obama cronies who “stole” money from the “stimulus” that stimulated nothing. There is no money. We OWE money to the Red Chinese. What did Obama use for collateral, btw? We don’t want to know.

        Are you talking about the banks? Who are the banks? The money they have is money we earned, we deposited, our companies deposited into our pension fund. We invested in the IRAs, the 401Ks. It’s our money. We the People own the banks and that money is our money. Obama and his cronies are the ones talking about SEIZING our 401Ks. If you have money, you didn’t save that. Oh, yes you did.

        Romney and Ryan is a team that is growing “a pair”. At least they’re talking about the situation we’re in now and moving forward. It’s useless to talk about how we got here, other than to change the system so that we don’t keep digging the hole deeper and deeper until we ARE in RED CHINA.

    • Nope. Not viable at this time, considering all the Obama cronies involved and how this isn’t a good time, during his reelection campaign. As if there will ever be a good time or any more evidence developed.

    • There is only one benefit of having Obama in the WH – all the corruption that permeates all branches of government was brought into focus, racism was exposed and those pushing their dogmas were highlighted along with the extreme ideological highlighting the differences in the parties. Patriotism is once again coming to the forefront because of Obama’s apology tours, and his blaming of people, the wealthy, and industries. Christians are fighting back against the atheists in force, the Ismistas’s agendas were revealed (Communists and Muslims). The Muslim Brotherhood and infiltration of government is now known. Soros organizations and fronts and other money laundering organizations like ACORN are known. We can now track who is behind information that is presented to us. Attacks on the Constitution and those who were/are attempting to destroy our nation are now recognized.

      The tentacles run deep and had we not seen the corruption of judges at all levels, we wouldn’t have believed it to be true. The media has covered for them as the crooks try to CYA, but thank God the blogasphere took over to research and investigate what the so called journalists didn’t write about, as well as Glenn Beck’s show and WND. That reminds me of the JournOlistas who are collaborating together and with the WH in how information is presented to the public and how they are now officially our Pravda – the Soviet like propagandists.

      We could keep naming more like the examples given, yet, they wouldn’t have been highlighted if Obama wasn’t in our WH and the anti-Americans given a pass to come out of the gutters. It is because of him that we are so engaged in the political process and observing not only criminal behavior but blatant anti-Americans. (OWS helped people see the differences in which side they are supporting also).


    Did we know about this? I remember somebody linking to the WND story, but the video? In this one, Corsi picks up on the fact that Obama’s college buddies ridiculed him for wearing that wedding ring, as shown in the Harvard Law Revue that we covered here. He’s making the allegation that perhaps Barry is gay and wore the ring to warn off women or as a sign to gay men. He wonders if Barry married before he married Michelle. (His brother Malik, with whom he hung out, had many wives around that time. His father had at least 4.)

    Corsi also asks whether Barry possibly was married to a man! (Was that “done” back then?) Corsi makes it a point to say he’s not focusing on the gay issue as the issue: The issue is, why does he LIE about his history?

    Something I didn’t pick up on before, the double entendre: Doer’s. What did that mean to the guys/gals writing that parody? Was Barry promiscuous then? In what circles?


    “House Oversight Committee expects to file a civil contempt suit against Attorney General Eric Holder Monday. The lawsuit is to try to force Holder to release documents from the Fast and Furious gunwalking operation.”

    • I want to SEE it ! Or will it be more teflon theater that goes nowhere ? The proof is in the pudding now. Law or lawlessness.

      Proof in the pudding time…no more skating. Time for people to do their JOBS. No more begging…

    • Hopefully they get the same Federal Judge they had last time that forced Holder to turn over documents. Unlessss of course, an activist judge gets threatened in the meantime.

  26. A little levity.

    The ‘word’s out!’ Obama and Romney should release records
    Stu Bykofsky, Philadelphia Daily News
    Aug. 13

    THE “WORD’S OUT” that Nevada Sen. Harry Reid had sex with the Road Runner, meeting for unspeakable trysts in a seedy motel outside Reid’s hometown of Searchlight, Nev. (population 539). This comes from an anonymous registered voter in Reid’s own party, so it must be true. Also, I saw it on the Internet, and if it’s on the Internet, you know it is true.


    OK. Why is this plan to sue even being announced? Give Holder time to submit one itsy morsel of information and then can’t sue…….until determined he did not provide enough. STupid giving advance notice of every move.

    • By design Hoot ? Reality TV production again ? It is all teflon theater it seems. Proof is in the pudding.We will now see.

    • Hoot, Holder;
      Chiquita International BrandsPartner Eric Holder in 2007 defended Chiquita International Brands against lawsuits brought by relatives of people slain by terrorists and paramilitia belonging to the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia, which Chiquita paid for protection.[11][12] Holder had previously helped Chiquita negotiate a felony plea bargain, accepted by U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth, in a criminal prosecution by the federal government for one count of supporting a designated terrorist organization. The plea involved a fine of $25 million USD, also entailing 5 years probation. Chiquita became the first major U.S. corporation to be convicted of financing terrorism. After the settlement, U.S. Assistant Attorney Jonathan Malis said the $1.7 million in payments “fueled violence” and “paid for weapons and ammunition to kill innocent people.” Holder stressed that Chiquita had asked the Department of Justice in 2003 if the payments should be stopped.[13]

      [edit] Xe Services (formerly Blackwater Worldwide)In April 2010, The Hill newspaper reported that Xe Services, formerly known as Blackwater Worldwide, hired Covington & Burling to lobby on “government contracts,” according to a lobbying disclosure filing. According to the Hill, “[t]his is the first lobbying contract Blackwater has had since early 2009, when it terminated contracts with several different firms.” The lobbying report listed the following Covington personnel engaged by Xe: Stuart Eizenstat,[14] a former Treasury deputy secretary during the Clinton administration; Brian Smith,[15] an ex-Clinton White House aide; former Congressman Michael Barnes[16] (D-Md.); Martin Gold,[17] a former floor adviser to ex-Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.); and William Wichterman,[18] a former White House aide in the George W. Bush administration.

      Connections for you Hootie…

  28. The 5 items are detailed in the article. This is just a snapshot of each one.
    5 ‘Devastating Secrets’ the Obama Admin Has Allegedly Fought to Keep From the American Public
    August 13, 2012 Snips

    Has the Obama administration desperately tried to hide “devastating secrets” from the American people? This is a question that JudicialWatch President Tom Fitton affirmatively answers in his new book, “The Corruption Chronicles.”….TheBlaze asked the author to highlight the five most pervasive secrets that the president’s administration has tried to conceal. Here they are:

    1) Fast and Furious: Attorney General Eric Holder was convicted of contempt of Congress (and now possible disbarment!)
    2) White House Czars – current count 45! Their activities and their exact roles, Fitton says, are secretive in nature.
    3) Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac -“never before has so much money been spent with so little oversight.” -both institutions were essentially taken over by the U.S. government in 2008
    4) Details Surrounding the Bin Laden Raid -The organization is seeking details about ”any funeral ceremony, rite or ritual” that was performed before bin Laden’s burial at sea. (FOIS request to U.S. Navy). The group is also seeking any and all communications and records surrounding the terrorist’s funeral
    5) Justice Elena Kagan’s Role in Crafting ObamaCare

  29. Yellow Journalism Is Alive And Well
    [RED JOURNALISM is what I call it!]
    August 13, 2012 Snip

    What is yellow journalism? The term yellow journalism originated with comments on Hogan’s Alley and its main character “the Yellow Kid”, which was created by cartoonist Richard Outcault for the publisher Pulitzer in the New York World. In the late 1890′s Pulitzer was in a subscription war with William Randolph Hearst and the New York Journal. Both Pulitzer and Hearst wanted to engage New York’s readers.

    The dictionary defines the term yellow journalism as deliberate distortion or exaggeration to fuel speculation with the intent of increasing circulation. It is not anything resembling accurate news reporting. It insinuates the opinions of the publishers or authors into what is reported as news with the intent of fueling speculation at the expense of the truth. In the late nineteenth century it was used to fuel anti-Spanish sentiment and contributed to goading the United States into the Spanish American War.
    Today there are members of the press who think they should make the story instead of reporting it.

  30. Michelle dishes out more descriptive names for people not siding with her illustrious husband. [So proud that she embodies the decency of other First Ladies! She is an insult to our citizens and especially to our nation.]

    Michelle: Undecideds ‘Confused,’ ‘Knuckleheads’
    Tom Joyner Morning Show Interviews Michelle Obama 10 Aug 2012 (Video)

    Michelle Obama to Black Radio
    “All of us know that one person in our lives . . . that one knucklehead nephew that’s not registered to vote . . . That one neighbor that’s not really paying attention, or that one person in your office that’s confused about how Barack’s tax plan will benefit . . . that individual.”

    • This gives me an opportunity to share something I just read, about the progressive mindset and it’s a good example of how people like Mooch indoctrinate the young.

      “I was riding home on Amtrak the other day, on my way from Massachusetts to Philadelphia. On the train with me was a young girl about 18. She was talking non-stop to a couple in their mid-thirties while hanging over the back of her seat.

      Her conversation — near monologue, actually — was all about her.

      As it usually is with any kid who is about eighteen.

      She was going to MIT. She had aced her SATs. She had learned algebra intuitively and never really understood it, though due to unerring gut instinct, she aced it, too. Surprise!

      MIT was much more difficult and prestigious than Harvard. The most successful people who attended Harvard didn’t even graduate. Just look at Mark Zuckerberg. He was a dropout. But MIT graduates were nearly all successful, like she would be.

      Ah, youth, I thought. She has some hard knocks coming, poor thing.

      Then she started a monologue about religious people. …” Rest at the link.

      WARNING: If you click Bridgette’s link, you will hear Mooch’s voice, unless you turn off the sound. There’s no article. I didn’t realize it was audio and YUK. My ears were assaulted. 🙂

      This isn’t a DEMOCRACY, Mooch. It’s a Republic. In her mind, it’s all about how “Barack’s tax plan” will BENEFIT any INDIVIDUAL. But we’re not ALL as selfish and self-absorbed as you, Mooch.

      That’s how they think of us. That all we do is vote our SELF-INTEREST. What about the “individual” who is hurt by “Barack’s tax plan” because he sees his (or her) employees HURT by “Barack’s tax plan,” when the boss has to lay them off or end some of their benefits?

      WHAT PLAN, BTW? Where’s a budget? Where’s any plan from “Barack”? All we hear is the same old, same old talking points from 2008. Four years later, nothing accomplished.

    • Michelle can take her latest pejorative and put it where the sun don’t shine!
      Oh, the names we could lay on her…

  31. Michelle, Who You Calling a ‘Knucklehead’?
    August 11, 2012 Snips

    Here are some tax truisms that Knucklehead liberals can’t get through their thick skulls:

    1. “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” — Winston Churchill

    2. “We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.” ― Winston Churchill

    3. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.

    4. What one person receives without working another person must work without receiving.

    5. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

    6. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

    7. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them; and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

    8. “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” ― Thomas Jefferson

    9. “You can’t tax business. Business doesn’t pay taxes. It collects taxes.” ― Ronald Reagan

    10. “There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.” ― Robert A. Heinlein (1907–1988), author of The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and Starship Troopers

    11. “The power to tax is the power to destroy.” ― Supreme Court Justice John Marshall (1755–1835)

    12. “A democracy . . . can only exist until the people discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy —to be followed by a dictatorship.

    If you can’t get these truths through your head, then you are a knucklehead.

  32. Blood is boiling here! My blood runneth over!

    House Republicans Give Obama More Dictatorial Power
    August 13, 2012 Snip

    Up until this past Friday, the U.S. Senate has had the duty to confirm presidential appointments to key government positions including federal judges and key positions of federal departments. Just last year we watched as the Senate held their confirmation hearings on Obama’s appointment of Elena Kagan to the U.S. Supreme Court, and for many of us, our hearts sank when the Senate voted to confirm her appointment.

    In 2011, Chuck Schumer (D-NY) introduced a bill into the U.S. Senate; that would exempt many presidential appointments from needing Senate approval. To no one’s surprise, the bill easily passed the Senate and was sent to the House where one would have expected it to be readily defeated. However, in one of the rare times the Republicans worked with the Democrats, the House passed the bill last month by a 261-116 vote.

    On Friday, President Obama signed the bill into law. Barack Obama and every president that follows him will now be able to make appointments of key staff of departments including Treasury, Education, NOAA and Homeland Security without Senate approval.
    “The United States Constitution does not bestow kingly powers on the President to appoint the senior officers of the government with no process.”

    More here:

    • Show us where in the Constitution this is written! How did this bill pass? Time to ask your representative if he/she voted for this bill! How many read it before they voted on it?

      By a vote of 261-116, the House of Representatives passed a bill rewriting Article II of the Constitution and divesting the Senate of the power to accept or reject the appointment of many presidential nominees.

      Last year, the Senate passed the measure by a vote of 79-20, so it now goes to the desk of President Obama for his signature.

      “Important positions will be filled faster, government agencies will be more capable of offering valuable services to their constituents, and the overall confirmation process will be more efficient,” said Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.
      Despite a last-minute attempt by some House leaders to put the measure to a voice vote, thus allowing members to vote in favor of the legislation without being listed on the record, a roll call vote was taken, and the name of every congressman who voted to unconstitutionally neuter the legislative branch is listed.
      (95 Republicans joined 166 Democrats voting in favor of passage) because its sole purpose is to relieve the backlog of unconfirmed appointees by eliminating the confirmation requirement for about 200 offices.

    • Obama signs bill exempting presidential appointees from Senate confirmation
      8/10/2012 Snip

      If Obama gets re-elected in November, you can believe that he will use every inch of this new law to load every government position he can with his socialist comrades. If Mitt Romney wins, the same bill could be just as abused to load the government with fiscal conservatives which could be the best thing to happen to this country. This bill can be extremely dangerous in the hands of the wrong president and very beneficial in the hands of the right president.

    • This is the number of the Senate Bill – S. 679, the “Presidential Appointment Efficiency and Streamlining Act.”

      Co-sponsors (17)
      Sen. Lamar Alexander [R-TN]
      Sen. Jeff Bingaman [D-NM]
      Sen. Richard Blumenthal [D-CT]
      Sen. Scott Brown [R-MA]
      Sen. Thomas Carper [D-DE]
      Sen. Susan Collins [R-ME]
      Sen. Richard Durbin [D-IL]
      Sen. Mike Johanns [R-NE]
      Sen. Jon Kyl [R-AZ]
      Sen. Joseph Lieberman [I-CT]
      Sen. Richard Lugar [R-IN]
      Sen. Mitch McConnell [R-KY]

      Sen. John “Jack” Reed [D-RI]
      Sen. Harry Reid [D-NV]
      Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse [D-RI]
      Sen. Michael Bennet [D-CO] (joined Jun 21, 2011)
      Sen. Patty Murray [D-WA] (joined Jun 21, 2011)

    • House Vote #537
      House Votes: Listed by State (yeas and nays)

      For the Paulies – he didn’t vote.
      Paul Ryan voted yea!

  33. Little information

    3 Dead After Shooting Near Texas A&M
    Monday, 13 Aug 2012 03:57 PM

    A gunman killed two people including a law enforcement officer on Monday after opening fire from inside a house near Texas A&M University in College Station, police said.

    Four other people were injured in the incident, and police later shot and killed the gunman, they said.

  34. Finally we are getting some traction!

    Exclusive Media blackout on Obama docs baffles Arpaio posse
    Washington Times247 – David Isaac
    Monday, August 13, 2012 Snip

    Part One of Two

    Detective Michael Zullo is surprised to say the least. He is chief investigator for Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse looking into the authenticity of President Barack Obama’s long-form birth certificate. At a recent press conference, he presented his evidence, which he says points to forgery. He expected the media to follow up with questions about the evidence. What he got was unabashed hostility. “I really didn’t expect them to come out of the gate attacking us as they did,” Mr. Zullo said.

    Nearly a month has passed since a July 17 press conference where Mr. Zullo presented evidence which he says proves that Mr. Obama’s long-form birth certificate is a fraud. “They didn’t pick up on anything. They just don’t want to know about this,” he said. “We resented the most compelling stuff that we know we can prove. That’s the other side of it. We can prove this.This isn’t speculation anymore.”

    But Mr. Zullo says the mainstream media have turned to bloggers with names like The Fogbow and Dr. Conspiracy to refute the Arpaio team’s findings. “The media seem to gravitate toward these people as if they are the sound voice in this matter and they are anything but. They will give them special homage as far their technical information, but they will not report on ours with any real accuracy,” he said.
    “You’re trying to go after the messenger. This is an official investigation,” Mr. Arpaio said. “Look at the facts, what we came up with.”

    • Washington Times is reporting on this??? Congrats David Issac for having a few cajones! Way to go! Mostly correct and he even used the term NBC! In their own way are they outing Foggy or Dr. Con’s for the forgery? I think so.

      Now why would the Left wing, biased, Obama a@@ licking media go to Foggy’s or Con’s for answers? Duhhh??

      Take this poll at the URL above and post it everywhere.
      See the poll and report the results after voting please!

      Vote now and often! like the Left does! Check this out!

      9,485 votes with 95% Yes. It is the responsibility of Congress to
      investigate potentially criminal activity that involves the POTUS. Sheriff Joe’s posse made a compelling case.

      3% No. You birthers need to give it up already.

      2% Who cares? We should be talking about jobs!

      • “Even the conservative National Review felt enough was enough. In a March 7 op-ed, “Conspiracy, Again,” the editors wrote:

        “Republicans who have chosen to associate with the birthers have done their party and their country a disservice. And as Sheriff Arpaio settles comfortably into that political mental ward, the same must be said of those Republicans who choose to associate themselves with him more broadly. Those who cannot distinguish between the birthers’ flim-flam and the critical questions that face our nation in 2012 will not win and do not deserve to.”

        What was left out by the media was any attempt to report on the evidence that had been presented by Mr. Arpaio’s team, so that it could be subject to analysis by others.” [Exactly why–they do NOT want anyone else to examine the EVIDENCE because any HONEST evaluation will show that Arpaio is CORRECT.]

        FLIM-FLAM. There’s your buzzword, JournOlist, WH-supplied talking point (from NATIONAL REVIEW, no less).

        Sandy Burglar? “Sloppy.”

        Fast and Furious? “Bungled.”

        Obama’s ineligibility? “Flim-flamming birther conspiracy” theory from the “political mental ward.”


      • 9,740 as of right now – still holding the 95%. Only an additional 255 people have voted since I did?

    • “Sensing the “birther movement” was becoming a dangerous distraction, the Obama administration released the long-form birth certificate on April 27, 2011.”

      Dangerous “distraction” for whom? In what sense was this distraction “dangerous”? Only to Obama and his power.

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