What Do Kenyan Ministers Know that Americans Don’t Know? (Open Thread)

Posted By Bridgette

Who Should We Believe?

Obama or Kenya’s Government Officials?        

James Orengo , Lands Minister, Kenya

Hoping as we were to find out exactly who Barack Obama is and to have his legitimate, valid documents presented to the Court in Georgia last Thursday;  we still don’t know his real name, his origins, or anything else about his background,  other than what was presented in his fictionalized book, Dreams, and the information presented on a forged birth certificate.   Perhaps we should look again to African officials who gave unsolicited statements about Barack Obama.  When these officials  spoke, it appears they did not know that the U.S.  Constitution has strict requirements for the Office of the President.  For if they knew,  it is doubtful they would have  spoken on the record as they did.   What government holds the answers?

Current Minister of Kenyan Government Declared Obama Was born here in Kenya” and is not a “Native American!”

Reprinted with Permission
© By Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
April 11, 2010

Kenyan Minister, Dr. Bonny Khalwale,  stated on the record on  April 14,  2010 in the Kenyan National Assembly that “Obama should repatriate himself to Kenya!”

The President and Commander-in-Chief of the USA must be a “Natural Born” Citizen —

U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, No Person except a natural born Citizen, or  a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”

The Law of Nations, Vattel, 1758.  Used by Ben Franklin, John Jay, George Washington, and others. Vol.1, Ch.19, Section 212: “natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”

Obama’s Father was NOT a U.S. Citizen, nor was he an Immigrant to the USA, nor was he even a Permanent Resident of the USA.

Obama is NOT an Article II Natural Born Citizen and,  therefore,  is NOT Eligible to be President.

A debate on the adoption of a new Kenyan Constitution took place in the House of the National Assembly of Kenya on Thursday, March 25, 2010. The Official Report of that House, dated Thursday, March 25, 2010,  and recorded in the Kenyan government’s depository, Hansard- the official source of printed transcripts of parliamentary debates-provides the details of that debate.

One of the speakers (see pages 29-31) during that debate was The Minister for Lands, Mr. James Orengo.   Ironically, and very applicable to us in the USA at this time, he expressed to the Parliament in open debate that “[i]f we do not live by the values and principles contained in this Constitution, all that is contained in this Constitution will be of no significance.”   He continued saying that Kenyans must follow the rule of law and especially the Constitution, stating that the “unmaking of Kenya began by disregard and non-compliance of the law. We ended up in a dictatorship that we had to fight for so many years….” He further explained that under the new proposed Constitution, the “Executive authority of the President … is derived from the people….”

He then continued to tell the Parliament that Kenya must overcome its problem of elements of its population excluding people from participating in Kenyan life because of their ethnicity or tribal affiliations. He asked that all Kenyans unite, regardless of ethnic or tribal affiliations, stating:  “The other thing that we are addressing through devolution is exclusion. What has made us suffer as a nation is exclusion.  Once people feel excluded, even when you want to employ a policeman or constable or you want to build a dispensary, it must come from the centre.   In the colonial days, these things were being done on the ground and they could give bursaries and build roads. I commend devolution. Those who fear devolution are living in the past. They are being guided by their ethnic consideration and objectives. They are living in the past.   If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America?  It is because they did away with exclusion.   What has killed us here is exclusion; that once Mr. Orengo is President, I know of no other place than Ugenya. That is why we were fighting against these many Presidencies in the past. I hope that Kenya will come of age. This country must come of age. People want freedom and nations want liberation, but countries want independence.”

There we have it clearly stated by the current Minister of Lands in Kenya that Obama was “born here in Kenya” and is not a “native American.”  It is unbelievable that a high-ranking member of the Kenyan government would make such a matter-of-fact statement,  given the debate that is raging in the United States about whether Obama was born in Hawaii or Kenya,  and the press here in the USA did not report his statement.

From his statement, it appears that Mr. Orengo believes that the American electorate knew that Obama was born in Kenya and still voted for him to be President.  It is also significant that no one in the Kenyan Parliament corrected or challenged Mr. Orengo when he made his statement.  Thus,  it is a given that Obama’s place of birth in Kenya must be well-known.   But they apparently do not know the importance of that statement to Obama’s legitimacy to be the President of the United States.  Kenya would not only be embarrassed,  but would also be negatively impacted upon if Obama were found not to be the legitimate President of the United States.

Given the importance to us here in the USA, and the matter-of-fact tone of his statement, one would also think that Mr. Orengo would share his knowledge with the American people if asked for further details.   I surely hope that the American media will immediately fly to Kenya and personally interview Mr. Orengo to find out why he said what he did and is certain that Obama was born in Kenya and is not a native American.

The full House Report was originally found on the Kenyan government website.   However, after this news broke on the internet in the USA, direct viewing of these minutes was scrubbed/disabled on the Kenyan server as of  April 15, 2010.   But, a copy of the Kenyan National Assembly PDF file was saved and uploaded to SCRIBD.com can still be downloaded.    The speech of Mr. Orengo starts at page 29 and ends at page 31.   View the key remark here.

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Is Barack Obama an African posing as an American citizen?

Was he born a continent away as they say he was?

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147 responses to “What Do Kenyan Ministers Know that Americans Don’t Know? (Open Thread)

  1. Apparently someone thinks this is also in referrence to Obama’s full name “Barack Abdallah Husein Obama”. It is mentioned in the link to a democcrat website promoting “Leah Lax” as the opponent to Obama for the nomination to run in the presidential election.
    If you don’t want this link here –please delete. Scroll up tp the black and white text.
    http://leahlax.com/

    • A perfect link Harvey. I have those jpgs, but for some reason WordPress couldn’t upload them for the article.

    • Update: Tanzanian newspaper reports that Obama has“origins from East Africa”
      “THE CITIZEN”:Â OBAMA HAS “ROOTS OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY”

      (Jul 13, 2010) — An online newspaper based in Tanzania is reporting that “Barack Abdallah Husein Obama,” the “first black US president,” was born outside of the United States.

      Written in broken English, the article notes that the President of the United States has historically been required to be born on U.S. soil but that “This might have been the result of racism or belief that a person other than ‘original’ US citizen was capable of effectively leading the powerful nation and help it to maintain its values.”

      The writers go on to say that “We witnessed last year a senator with his origins from east Africa, Barack Abdallah Husein Obama, becoming the first black US president. He won the race on Democrat ticket and was sworn on January 20, 2009 as US president.”
      ~
      http://www.thecitizen.co.tz/magazines/32-political-platform/2708-zanzibar-could-reverse-trend-to-have-president-from-pemba.html

      http://www.thepostemail.com/ 2010/ 07/ 13/ tanzanian-newspaper-reports-that-obama-has-origins-from-east-africa/ –

  2. Incredible isn’t it. Chasing the BC isn’t a total waste of time and may actually be the answer. Long story short.

  3. And so it starts from marble mouthed Jesse..

    Jesse Jackson Claims GOP Demonizing Rhetoric Will Cause Obama Assassination

    On MSNBC’s Martin Bashir Show Jesse Jackson claimed Governor Brewer’s finger pointing and Congressman West’s comments leads to enraging masses against the President. Jackson then speculates that these masses will turn violent and lead to the assignation of President Obama.

    “Well, ignorance and hatred and violence is in a certain pattern. John Kennedy was demonized. He’s the guy who imposed himself on the south. He intervened. It’s called an interposition. In the end this demon was shot. They demonized Dr. King talking about the war of Vietnam, out of his capacity with disrupting things and Hoover calling him a damn liar.

    http://www.breitbart.tv/jesse-jackson-claims-gop-demonizing-rhetoric-will-cause-obama-assassination/

    • Reminds me of what Ulsterman’s white house insider said a few months ago, around the time Obama did that ridiculous “Bus Tour” – they had a plan to set something up, an assassination attempt. The random shooting at the white house by the OWS guy was a warm up, testing the waters before the real deal – Fake attempt to garner sympathy, blame racist white neonazi types, then demonize the Tea Party, race riots, etc.

    • Check out the story below the video! It says it will lead to Barry’s “assignation”. With whom? Enquiring minds want to know. With Larry Sinclair or would it be Reggie LOVE? 🙂

  4. The other plaintiff Orly Taitz represented

    “”A Plaintiff in Georgia, Cody Robert Judy issued a subpoena signed by a Judge for Obama to produce his identity records. In the Commercial showing the subpoena and feeling Congress has neglected their oaths and duty in passing “Indefinite Detention” on American citizens, and in Qualification Verification Hearings making sure we have a qualified President, Cody says, Congress should be detained in the Halls saying, “Here’s my subpoena Congress, Where’s Yours”. http://www.codyjudy.us/

  5. At “Nobarack08’s Weblog”:

    “When did Kenya became Hawaii?

    http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2010/12/21/when-did-kenya-became-hawaii/
    =======
    “When did Kenya became Hawaii? Pt 2?”

    http://nobarack08.wordpress.com/2011/01/28/when-did-kenya-became-hawaii-pt-2/

  6. Yes people, Illinois, the state of corruption, decided today that all you need to be an NBC is to have a birth certificate! How much were they paid for that decision? They chose their kneecaps over the country.

    Illinois State Board of [S]elections erroneously rules Obama Natural Born because of Birth Certificate’

    The Illinois State Board of Elections today ignored Supreme Court Precedent Minor v. Happersett and declared Obama a Natural Born Citizen. The Board would not allow Michael Jackson to speak and illegally excluded his Exception from their ruling.

    http://obamaballotchallenge.com/illinois-state-board-of-elections-erroneously-rules-obama-natural-born-because-of-birth-certificate

    • It’s the Chicago/Illinois way. Who would have expected otherwise? Nothing in the local news about this today.

      • Did he get to see this alleged copy of Obama’s birth certificate? Didn’t think so. It’s a printed out copy of a digital image on a blog. The one where the HDOH misspelled the word “THE” as “TXE”. They really should get their money back for that misspelled stamp.

  7. remember this?

    boy, that granny signature sure looks real.

  8. The other day Feinsteinn let it “slip” about meeting with head of Mossad regarding a possible Israeli strike on Iran – kinda like she let it “slip” about Usama bin Laden at her friend Kam Kawata’s memorial service, preempting the President’s big moment. Remember, WH Insider says about his “Vince Foster” moment Kam talked to Feinsteinn and she has the goods on Obama’s part in stealing campaign funds and the wierd chanting and behavior.

    Well, now Leon Panetta decides to say he thinks Israel will strike and may know how and when – according to WHI, it was Panetta who made the call on UBL and ignored Obama.

    I think they are undercutting Obama. They know Israel is going to strike and probably got word that Obama would disavow it and act like he didn’t know anything and basically leave Israel hanging (and would probably give private personal assurances to his muslim friends that we would not intervene in retaliatory actions). Now he can’t. now it is clear there is no daylight between us and Israel on Iran and messing with Israel is messing with us. Never thought i would say this, but Good Job Diane.

    • great scoop Hayden!

      yea, he bowed and kowtowed to the King of Saudi; had the Buddhist ousted out the side door with their party trash and told Netanyahu to sit in the corner for dinner. so transparent.

      I am thinking Harold Ickes may be u know who. (His dad, Harold L. Ickes slipped under the radar, too.) check ’em both out. its worth debunking, deduce. screen out.

      • Harold was depicted in the movie Primary Colors, written by the anonymous Joe Klein. a sticky web.

        Feinstein’s hospitality for an emergency meeting for hill and barky. she offered them a glass of water and then went upstairs. meanwhile back at the stinky airplane with the floating moon on UN blue logo, reporters sat sweating with palms turned upward. the night was Thursday, June 5th, 2008. (the Eve of RFK’s 40th anniversary); 2 nights after The One declared himself the messiah while 2 primary polls were open, Montana and South Dakota, iirc, and less than one week after the Rules and ByLaws committee (Sat 5/31) and two nights before HRC went before her supporters at Constitution Hall and suspended her campaign. .. Harold blew a gsket at the Rules & ByLaws Meeting, Donna Brazile… it just fits.

        oh and that reminds me when barky was pontificating about healing the moon and rising the whatevers, and he was proclaiming he’s the superdelegate’s nominee, HRC won one of the States, big time… the polls were still open … Tuesday, 6/3/08 She was winning.
        Ickes. hmmmm? FOBC

    • Do you have a link?

  9. “The ‘Baer-Haggerty Offensive’ Radio Show with special guest CDR Kerchner (Ret)”

    [audio src="http://www.kerchner.com/audio/baerhaggertyoffensive-cdrk-epatriot-20120201.mp3" /]

    http://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2012/02/02/the-baer-haggerty-offensive-radio-show-with-special-guest-cdr-kerchner-ret/

    • Interesting (audio is bad, but I got halfway through it – first link)

      Col Kerchner got involved around July, 2008 about the same time many of us were doing so. He also watched as the checks and balances expected to stop Obama were not executed.

      When Col. Kerchner first decided to sue Obama and Congress, he went to Judicial Watch, Heritage Foundation and 10 other attorneys before he found Apuzzo who was willing to take the case. He sued Obama and Congress.

      Col. Kerchner when serving Obama elect in 2008 (Apuzzo, atty) had one judge with a suspicious background who dismissed his case early on. He didn’t mention his name. Anyway, the Federal judge that ruled on their lawsuit gave the eulogy for a Princeton faculty member who was a member of SDS. [Let’s see who do we know that was a member of SDS?]

      Also when their case went to the Supreme Ct., the Court has all sorts of rules for receiving the case files. They must be bound a certain way, a certain type font used, etc. If they don’t arrive in the exact form, the Clerk of the Court can just toss out the case. For 40 copies of their case, it cost them $5,000.

  10. He was also deputy chief of staff under chief of staff Panetta for Bill Clinton. Heavily involved in Hillary’s campaign, east coast guy, it does fit.

    • 20 years older than Kam…

      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_M._Ickes

        and some old gossip

        Dianne Goldman Berman Feinstein (b. 1933) — Between 2001 and 2006, Diane Feinstein served as the ranking member of the United States Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Military Construction, Veterans Affairs, and Related Agencies, also known as the “MILCON” subcommittee. Feinstein also served as chair of the MILCON subcommittee when the Democrats controlled the Senate in 2001 and 2002.

        While on the MILCON subcommitte, Feinstein voted for appropriations worth billions of dollars to firms owned by her husband, Richard C. Blum. This included millions of dollars in contracts awarded to Blum’s Perini Corporation to provide goods and services in Iraq and Afghanistan.

        As the ranking Democratic, Feinstein would have again become chair of the MILCON subcommittee when the Democratically controlled Senate of the 110th Congress was sworn in on January 4, 2007. However, Feinstein resigned from the subcommittee prior to the new congressional term, forfeiting chairmanship of the MILCON subcommittee to Tim Johnson. Metro Newspapers reported that Feinstein’s resignation was attributable to a series of articles, partially funded by the progressive Nation Institute, exposing the potential conflict of interest posed by Feinstein’s voting to award contracts to her husband’s firms.

        In April 2007, Feinstein’s office denied any ethical conflict, however, the director of the Project on Government Oversight who has examined evidence assembled by investigative reporter Peter Byrne stated that “the paper trail showing Senator Feinstein’s conflict of interest is irrefutable.”

        Additional scandal arose when it was revealed that members of Feinstein’s Senate staff attempted to purge references to these alleged conflicts of interest from the Wikipedia articles on herself and her husband.

        Additionally, in 1990, Senator Feinstein failed to disclose that her husband had guaranteed her 1990 campaign loans, which resulted in a US$190,000 fine. This information was also initially deleted from Wikipedia by a Feinstein staffer in 2006.

        ~~ and more, what a great site. Pakistan?

        http://byteboy.wordpress.com/category/democratic-scandals/

        Robert” Bob” Filner (b.1942) — U.S. Representative from the San Diego, California area.

        On August 19, 2007 Filner was involved in an altercation with a United Airlines employee at Dulles International Airport after he tried to gain access to an area of Dulles Airport that is only for authorized personnel. Witnesses recount seeing Filner push an employee of United Airlines after allegedly being angry by the amount of time it was taking to receive his checked baggage; he also refused to leave the area. The employee pressed charges and Filner is scheduled to appear in General District Court on October 2, 2007.

        On November 26, 2007, Filner entered a plea in Virginia to a lesser charge and was fined $100.00 He entered into an “Alford plea”.

        Filner was involved in an earlier incident with security in February 2003 at the El Centra, California immigration detention facility. Filner arrived at the facility and requested to see a Pakistani detainee. When he was denied access pending approval, Filner became argumentative, trespassed onto a secure area, and attempted to shove his way past security to get farther into the facility. According to the supervisor who filed the report, Filner stated that “[He is] a congressman and can do whatever [he] want[s].”

    • This name may not be it, but judge Clay D. Land or something like that. That was a judge somewhere long ago mentioned in something. It just popped in my head. May not be the significant judge you’re talking about. Seems he was in several different states at different times.

    • Papoose, this is much bigger than anyone realizes. A year or more ago I found some lady who is a relative/daughter/or daughter in law of Biden’s giving a lecture on new technology of some sort of energy system that could be used in all businesses,high rise buildings. At the time I found what ever this system was was related to GE. This Biden lady was a member of Environmental Entrepenuers, as is Joe Biden’s son. I have tried to remember what the system was called that the Biden lady was speaking on. Joe Biden has been out front on all these issues. Here’s one. He’s brought much of the legislation up on this. It’s huge. Someone stands to make Billions on this. If you check into this huge public/private partnership effort with Federal Government’s funding,it’s phenominal. It goes right to the heart of the cap and trade carbon stuff too. They are involving every business, townships,mayors,and private homeowners all sold on the idea of saving on energy,but it’s huge corporations that are at the pay trough and Biden’s,Clintons ect. stand to gain huge payouts. I wish I could find the video of Mrs. Biden explaining this new intitiative. She worked for one of these energy companies envolved.

  11. Remember this at
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/world/americas/10iht-10obama.11849871.html

    Obama says real-life experience trumps rivals’ foreign policy credits
    By Larry Rohter

    ”To counter opponents’ accusations that he lacks experience in foreign policy, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois often cites his ties to relatives in poor villages in Kenya and the years he spent growing up in Indonesia. Now he has added a new personal detail to that résumé: a trip to Pakistan while a college student.

    However, it seems as if Obama left out a few more details he didn’t wish to publicize. Apparently one of Obama’s foreign policy advisers, Susan Rice, thought this omission by Obama was important enough to his campaign that she brought it to everyone’s attention.

    Obama’s advisers argue that “there are multiple aspects to experience, each of which can be relevant.” Obama’s experience “provides a different kind of insight” than the traditional résumé, said Susan Rice, a former assistant secretary of state for African affairs and a National Security Council official who is one of Obama’s foreign policy advisers.

    “At a time when our foreign policy and national security have so obviously suffered from a simplistic, black-and-white interpretation,” Rice added, having an American president who spent part of his formative years and young adulthood living in a poor country under a dictatorship brings an understanding of the complexity of things that others may not have. I’m not saying that official travels and congressional delegations are without value, but there are limits to what you can glean from that.”

    It has been a jigsaw puzzle from the beginning but now a picture is beginning to form. Its just a matter of time. Put all your pieces to the puzzle together that is in your archive and I would almost bet the picture is there. Rice knows. There is too much information in her statement to think it was simply a passive remark off the top of her head.

  12. he sure looks like big Daddy Bush in this profile.
    or maybe Hubert Humphrey lol… wonder who his mom really is.

    • I’ve thought that for a long time Papoose. What’s up with all the Bush’s visits to the WH? Daddy Bush and Jeb were just there at the WH last Friday.

      • There was the rumors regarding some quid pro quo for the 2008 election….???? remember how odd things got after the financial collapse? What are they planning for this election?

        • the financial collapse was deliberate.

          it was exactly when they all converged and said, we’re all in it together.

          there is no way America is broke. ca ching 24/7 its pouring in.

          the financial collapse was designed to funnel money over the course of years. the department of energy is the bank.

          • protected by Sebelius, Holder, Napolitano and Ginsberg, Kagen, Sotomayor, Clinton and Clinton and Bush and Bush and Bush and the Chicago 99,

            and Pelosi, Reid and Schumer and Bloomsberg

            and…

            congrats to barney and dodd. you got by. that was close.

          • Speaking of Ginsberg Papoose, did you see this over at wzippers?……Ginsberg is a traitor to the Constitution of the United States, she is a total disgrace.

            Liberal Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Tells Egyptians: Look To The Constitutions of South Africa or Canada, Not To The U.S. Constitution…

            http://weaselzippers.us/2012/02/02/liberal-supreme-court-justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-tells-egyptians-look-to-the-constitutions-of-south-africa-or-canada-not-to-the-u-s-constitution/

          • Appalling!

            Bader Ginsburg: “I can’t speak about what the Egyptian experience should be, because I’m operating under a rather old constitution. The United States, in comparison to Egypt, is a very new nation, and yet we have the oldest written constitution still in force in the world. … So the spirit of liberty has to be in the population, and then the constitution – first, it should safeguard basic fundamental human rights, like our First Amendment, the right to speak freely, and to publish freely, without the government as a censor.

            You should certainly be aided by all the constitution-writing that has gone one since the end of World War II. I would not look to the US constitution, if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012. I might look at the constitution of South Africa. That was a deliberate attempt to have a fundamental instrument of government that embraced basic human rights, had an independent judiciary… It really is, I think, a great piece of work that was done. Much more recent than the US constitution Canada has a Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It dates from 1982. You would almost certainly look at the European Convention on Human Rights. Yes, why not take advantage of what there is elsewhere in the world?”

            The USA has freedom of speech and the press. The US Constitution, first among all in the world, has a BILL OF RIGHTS. Let’s guess that the similar charters and conventions are based upon OUR CONSTITUTION, which has stood the test of time.

            Ruth, why not hie your a** over to South Africa if you think it’s superior to the USA and OUR Constitution (which you’re sworn to uphold)?

            Hey, Ruth, baby. You’re “rather OLD,” too. You’re less “recent” than Judge Roberts. Does that mean that you don’t stand the test of time, by your own reckoning?

            Time to retire, lady. I hear that South Africa is nice this time of year.

        • Just another RUTH in the neighborhood….

  13. Bridge, I am so starting to believe in that petrie dish.
    cloned? all smootzed up?

    • this is so impressive, Renee,

      monumental. let’s hope the lame stream media commies don’t find out.

      people might tune in.

    • Duncan Sunahara, Plaintiff v DOH, Loretta Fuddy as Dir of DOH, John Does 1 – 1 0, Jane Does 1 – 10; Doe Corporations 1 – 10; DOE Partnerships 1 – 10; and DOE Governmental Entities 1 – 10

      Sunahara Motion to Dismiss

      Defendants request dismissal of Plaintiff’s complaint for Plaintiff’s failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted.

      David M. Louie, AG, State of Hawaii.

      Hearing Date March 8, 2012 9:30 am Judge Hon. Rhonda A. Nishimura

      [Defendants] Attorneys, David M. Louis, AG; Heidi M. Rian, Jill T. Nagamine, and Rebecca E. Quinn, Deputy AG, hereby move this Court for an order dismissing Plaintiff’s Complaint for Plaintiff’s failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted.

    • So the stonewalling continues and Duncan, Virginia’s brother, only wanted a copy of the original BC of Virginia. Quite a few people involved from the AG’s office, don’t you think? Loretta sent him a computer generated one and not a certified copy of the original – because she can’t because of their “new” rule that Loretta decides who gets what, and the rule they changed so that Obama’s BC can’t be anything but a computer generated one so neither can Duncan get Virginia’s. Are they digging themselves into a real hole or what? They are spending how much money for the attorneys rather than going to the book or microfiche and making a copy?

      It is Sunahara’s original BC that is thought to be a template for Obama’s BC and that his certificate number originally belonged to Virginia’s certificate before it was assigned to Obama by the forger. So no wonder the DOH doesn’t want to give Duncan a copy of the original. Now they have made two grave errors…they gave Virginia’s computer generated BC a different number, is my guess, and the original number is on Obama’s fake one.

      Thinking quick sand or major corruption being seen at the DOH and it is getting ready to be exposed…except who can accuse the Hawaiian AG and DOH of corruption? Would it be Neil Abercrombie? Nope, me thinks Neil is involved as well. Then who?

      • Bridgett, is there a number on the computor generated birth cert.? Has anybody seen it?Can’t remember , was it Virgini’a death certificate we saw that had that bc number at the top or was that someone elses. We’ve covered so much, it’s all run together for me lately. See what you can find, would you?

        • alfy, they handwrote the birth certificate number on the death certificate that they sent Duncan Sunahara. It should be on the post where we talked about her death certificate.

      • Bridgette, not sure Neil is covering for anyone since he was the first to admit there is no BC in Hawaii. But people do seem to be getting closer to the truth. I believe the original people at the Hawaii DOH were NOT as complicit as people think. Also, the DPH elections official did not sign the form which contained the constitutional language, thus forcing Pelosi to do it. I know everyone was frustrated in the beginning but if you read thru the language carefully they never purgered themselves. Thus a regime change at DOH. Even then, the forger left traces to let everyone know the LFBC was a fraud.

      • Did they even give Duncan a LFCOLB for Virginia that looked at all like Barry’s? They sent him the SFCOLB, didn’t they? I was looking for it yesterday but couldn’t find it. Didn’t Duncan only get the short-form abstract, which is why he sued?

        Unlike Duncan, Barry got his waiver and he received (if you believe him) that computer-generated facsimile (with modifications, we suspect) of the actual “original” as it appears in its little binder at the HDOH. Or so they say.

        That’s why I asked before why Duncan, a VETERAN, can’t qualify for the same waiver that Barry got so that he can see the actual image of Virginia’s BC. With the mother’s signature, the doctor’s signature, the particulars of date and time of birth, the dates accepted and filed, etc.

        Does the HDOH consider Duncan Sunahara less important than Barry? Aren’t we all equal under the law? Didn’t they say previously that they never treated Barry’s records ANY DIFFERENT than any other citizen’s (if he is one)?

        It’s been said that they CAN’T change those policies because there are Hawaiian LAWS that specify how vital records are presented and there are also federal laws. I remember that their own laws allow for a person to visit the ACTUAL document. Remember how the legislature tried (but failed) to change those procedures to make them more onerous? To make the person present identification and to be filmed while looking at the originals, and that they couldn’t take photos of it, etc.? So there is a law that should allow Duncan to SEE the original paperwork. I think that’s what he argued in his suit.

        In their response, the HDOH argues that, basically, allowing an unauthorized person into the vault to visit the records would endanger the privacy of other records. Well, duh. A solution? Take the original of Virginia’s out of the book and show ONLY THAT RECORD to Duncan. Or take the book from the vault but make sure they don’t open to any page but Virginia’s. Are they THAT STUPID?

        There’s no reason they can’t cover all the other names in the index book and let him see the line for only Virginia. They’re just throwing up stupid roadblocks instead of following the letter AND the spirit of the law, which is to err on the side of transparency and allow access to public records for eligible people, of which even they admit Duncan is one.

        There is apparently a recommendation from the federal government that to prevent identity theft, states should match death records with birth records and indicate on the BIRTH RECORD that a person is deceased. There’s nothing there about indicating on death records the birth certificate number of the deceased. The recommended procedure is the exact opposite: To put the death record number on the birth certificate.

        So as a test of whether this really happens, all we have to do is look at the birth record of somebody who was deceased by the time the record was copied. Does anybody have an exemplar? (I don’t. I’ve never gotten birth certificate copies for relatives, but somebody might have.)

        If you have, let us know if the birth certificate was marked “deceased” or whether it has the death certificate number indicated on it.

        We already know that death records haven’t yet been found with birth certificate numbers on them. (Except for Virginia’s.)

        None of the many death certificates I have in my possession or have seen on the Web for relatives is marked with a birth certificate number. The procedure in many states is, when a person dies and they were born in another state, to notify the birth state and the state (at their leisure) pulls the BIRTH RECORD (not the death record) and marks it to indicate that the person died. THAT WAY, TO PREVENT IDENTITY THEFT, the birth record can’t be used by a living person to steal the identity of the deceased.

        There’s no LOGICAL reason to mark death certificates with birth certificate numbers. Is there? Unless it’s done to mislead Duncan Sunahara into thinking that his sister had a birth certificate number that’s not the one on Barry’s bogus BC’s.

        Yet the number they did give her, CANNOT BE HERS because it is SO FAR OUT OF SEQUENCE, as Mr. Vogt’s testimony proves.

        • Recently Miri, someone posted a death certificate. I thought it was for Virginia(maybe not). Leza or someone asked about the word birth certificate and then a written in number at the top left of it. We discussed it a while. Whose certificate was that?
          I have a friend who looks into births and deaths in the community just for historical and local curiosity and geneology purposes. When I see her next time I intend to ask her some of these questions. While counties can vary in small details on their record keeping ,whether due to their size and other factors, some things they do would be state regulated, but unless Federal laws have changed very recently, Duncan should be able to have and hold a copy of the original real birth and death certificates. I am going to find out what I can from my friend. Hopefully soon.

      • I recall reading some time ago that Virginia’s mother had been approached for Virginia’s birth certificate and Mrs. Sunahara stated she didn’t wish to be involved in the controversy. A birth certificate, even for a deceased child, is not the sort of thing you throw away. Does she have one? Misplace it? Does Duncan have it? Is he trying to force Hawaii’s hand by having them produce an original copy? The comparison might be revealing. Looks like Hawaii may be between ‘Barack and a hard place.’

        Has anyone else heard this about Virginia’s mother? Is she still living? There are so many rumors and just plain inaccurate statements made about the entire issue, it’s hard to know whether the report about Mrs. Sunahara is correct or not. However, if Duncan has it, he could be trying to make Hawaii indict themselves by proving they have altered records. One can only hope…

        • There is a group of researchers who did contact Virginia’s mother. She did apparently indicate that she did not have her daughter’s birth certificate, was not interested in applying for a copy, and did not want to be involved. Someone talked to her by phone; someone else apparently went to her house, pretending to be researching infant deaths. It’s understandable for the poor woman to decline. It’s upsetting enough to lose a child, even if it was years ago; but now to learn that possibly someone has stolen her identity? Unconscionable.

          Just another reason why the HDOH should give Duncan access to the original records, so the FAMILY knows whether this horrible supposition has any basis in fact. They prefer to allow the family to continue to wonder instead of just showing the proof to Duncan that all is in order with his sister’s records?

          Why would that be if it’s NOT possible that her identity WAS stolen and they’re trying hard to cover up? Think about it.

          Why are they fighting in court to prevent showing Duncan his sister’s birth certificate if there’s nothing dicey going on with it? Why this political, to-the-death fight over showing a man his sister’s birth records when his sister SHOULD HAVE nothing whatsoever to do with Obama? Instead, they allow the family to worry that her identity has been stolen. But, if as they claim, all’s well with the records, why not just show Duncan the records?

          Let’s hope to God that Duncan DOES have a copy of the birth certificate. Maybe the HDOH fears exactly that, so that’s WHY they won’t show him the original.

          It’s not just the birth certificate; as Bridgette has pointed out many times, every Dept. of Health, before computer databases, kept a handwritten log or index that helped them to locate birth certificates in their files, when they needed to find and copy them. THOSE RECORDS STILL EXIST.

          I’ve done genealogical research and have SEEN and been given access to the actual books. So at least in my state, a citizen can go and look at these old records. Duncan should also be able to see that index book to see what is on file for his sister. What her birth certificate number was in August 1961.

          They won’t let him see that, either. You have to ask yourself, “WHY NOT?”

  14. h/t Troy at Kate’s;

  15. I sent hard copies of two different Kenyan Parliament minutes to my Congress members and also to Donald Trump. There are minutes from the day after the 2008 election of the usurper, and the Kenyans are celebrating Obama their native son winning America’s presidential election.. They make no effort to hide the fact that they believe America’s just elected putative president was born in Kenya.

    Of course Trump is only concerned about Trump and Congress is useless.

    • To me, the most interesting article in that summary that Gordo linked to is the very first one. Where the AP is reported to have called senate “hopeful” Obama KENYAN-BORN. They had it on “My Auburn” but don’t link to the AP story. I wonder what the source was for the AP story.

    • Good for you! Let us know if they respond. Doubtful, but you never know. Miracles happen.

  16. Rep. Black Introduces Immigration Bill Targeting Obama
    Administration’s Lawsuits

    Thursday, February 1, 2012

    Representative Diane Black (R-Tenn.) introduced H.R. 3842, a bill that would stop the Department of Justice and the Obama Administration from pursuing lawsuits against Arizona, South Carolina and Alabama over their state immigration enforcement laws.

    “While the federal government and the Obama Administration have failed to take any action, individual states have put forth measures that give law enforcement the authority to address the alien populations in their states- only to see the Obama Administration slap them with politically motivated lawsuits,” Rep
    Black told The Daily News Journal.

    Rep. Black continues, “My legislation uses Congress’s power of the purse to deny Eric Holder and the Justice Department the ability to use taxpayer dollars to fund these lawsuits. Congress must support every state’s right to enforce the law and protect their own citizens without fear of retribution from the federal government.”

    In 2010, the Department of Justice filed suit against Arizona to halt the state’s enforcement efforts, claiming that their immigration bill, SB 1070, preempted federal immigration law. Since then, DOJ has entered into lawsuits against eight other states.
    ~
    H.R. 3842 is a companion bill to a Senate measure, sponsored by Senators Jim DeMint, R-S.C., David Vitter, R-La., and Jeff Sessions, R-Ariz.

    http://www.dnj.com/article/20120201/NEWS/302010025

  17. John McCain, Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, and now possibly Mitt Romney are also not natural born! McCain was born in Panama! Jindal and Rubio both had parents with a “s” that were foreigners at the time of Bobby and Marco’s birth. They are not natural born! Mitt Romney’s dad George was taken to Mexico by Mitt’s grand dad since grand daddy had several wives and America was cracking down on that. He became a citizen of Mexico! If he was still a Mexican citizen the day Mitt was born, Mitt is not natural born.
    Spend the money to get an ineligible man elected President of the free world and you own America. If your puppet no longer dances to your strings just cut the strings by releasing the truth about his Constitutional ineligibility! You own him!

    • old1, we have a post about Romney’s potential ineligibility. The jury is out but leaning towards eligible. Romney’s dad George was not taken to Mexico; he was born in Mexico. Our evidence shows that the Mormons in Mexico were STILL not Mexican citizens as of 1930, nearly two decades after George Romney moved to the USA, with his parents, when he was only about 5 years old. https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/mitt-romney-natural-born-citizenship-and-media-bias/ That’s our post. It’s updated as facts come to our attention, so stay tuned.

      • http://www.thepostemail.com/2012/02/01/the-romney-eligibility-question/

        Post & Email News has a more recent story addressing this same topic. My, I wonder where the author found the references to all those NY Times stories? Even snipped in the same places and with bold in the same places as in our article! Oh, do check it out. He exactly quotes snipped quotes from Commander Kerchner’s article (which I linked and attributed to him) but then he says, “source unknown”. No, it’s not! I linked it right there in my story. Methinks he was copying and pasting from our article when it was Blog of the Day at P&E. tsk, tsk, Mr. Hollrath. You’re welcome. 🙂

        This is a case study for those who like to point out that certain online for-profit news entities produce “exclusives” or were “first” to discover something, and also for those who criticize citizen researchers who take “credit” for “discoveries” and don’t give “due credit” to someone that others falsely believe were the “first” to discover something.

        We here at WTPOTUS try EXTREMELY HARD to give credit where credit is due. If we quote, we link; and we try to introduce the quote with the name of the author or at least the source where s/he wrote it. Throw us a crumb, please, people. But back to Hollrath’s article. He says,

        “Regarding Mitt Romney’s status as a dual US-Mexican citizen, that question is of little or no importance. If Mexican law in the early years of the 20th century conferred automatic Mexican citizenship on all those born on Mexican soil it is possible, even likely, that George W. Romney would have held dual US-Mexican citizenship throughout his life, making him ineligible to serve as President of the United States. However, it is inconceivable that Mexican law could impose dual US-Mexican citizenship, by descent, on the American-born children of those who held dual US-Mexican citizenship by automatic operation of Mexican law.

        Those who support the presidential aspirations of Mitt Romney should rest easy. It appears that all doubts relating to his status as a “natural born” U.S. citizen are without foundation. In his father’s case, it appears that he may have qualified as a “natural born” citizen only so long as he did not receive automatic Mexican citizenship by virtue of his being born to American parents on Mexican soil.

        If he did receive automatic Mexican citizenship, jure soli, because of his birth on Mexican soil, he would then have held dual US-Mexican citizenship and would have been ineligible to serve as President of the United States. Conversely, if he received only American citizenship, jure sanguimis, because he was born to American parents on foreign soil, he would then have been eligible to serve as a “natural born” U.S. citizen.

        These are the findings and conclusions of one not trained in the law. As such, their value should be judged only according to the reader’s level of confidence in the source. I am only trying to shed a bit of light on a sticky question that may be of critical importance to us all.

        If one trained in the law wishes to differ with my conclusions I will be happy to amend accordingly. In the meantime, caveat emptor!”

        • I realize that I didn’t write the NY Times stories but I did dig them all up and laboriously transcribe them (in part, thus the snips). It’s the hard work that we’d like some credit for–for the digging, and the transcribing, and the putting it all together so others might build upon what we have found. Free Republic gets a citation but we don’t? For that matter, even P&E, where the article was published, doesn’t get a citation for the Blog of the Day post, which was his likely source.

          • This is funny. I’m just now reading the comments on Mr. Hollrath’s article and Cmdr. Kerchner weighs in and says that the quote is from HIM! Way to go, Commander. Please do note that WE attributed your astounding research to YOU. TY! There are some other links in comments that I’ll have to research, especially since it appears it WILL be Romney. Sure do wish I were a lawyer, but even when we find lawyers, they don’t agree with each other!

        • After everything we have been through with Obummer, I think Romney should acknowledge the correct meaning of NBC and be very forthcomming with any an all information necessary to show his status. It would be nice to find a Congressman with some integrity!

          Mabye if Georgia and other states keeps Obama off the ballots, and criminal investigations and impeachments occur, it would be easy for him to do. I keep praying for God to forgive us and help us restore our Country to it’s Constitutional foundations.

          Also, FYI…..It is my understanding that Virginia Sunahara’s mother never said that she did not have the BC. She only said that if she did, she did not know where it was. Does Duncan have it now??? Oh, how I hope so!!!!!!!! 🙂

          • Oh, thanks for the correction. You’re probably right that she said she doesn’t know where it’s at. It’s logical that she had it, at one time. Oh, how I hope he really does have it. Ya think?

  18. Of course he was born in Kenya. If you believe anything from this psychopath in the White House, you don’t have two brain cells to rub together.

  19. Uh Oh! George Soros Paid for Ad Featuring Newt and Nancy Pelosi Shilling For Al Gore’s Global Warming Scam
    Feb. 3

    http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2012/02/03/uh-oh-george-soros-paid-for-ad-featuring-newt-and-nancy-pelosi-shilling-for-al-gores-global-warming-scam/

  20. The U.S. Senate voted on two amendments yesterday that show exactly how tightly politicians cling to power. The first vote was on a resolution Jim DeMint offered expressing support for a Constitutional Amendment limiting the number of terms someone can serve in Congress.

    The term limits amendment was defeated 24-75 with 52 Democrats and 23 Republicans opposing it.

    The longer someone serves, the more power they accumulate, and the more they lose touch with the voters who elected them. It’s no surprise that the senators who opposed his amendment have been in the Senate an average of 13.6 years compared to just 6.4 years for those who supported it.

    Click here to see how your Senators voted on term limits
    http://senateconservatives.com/site/votes/112/2/11?c=5R4F2B4F9B3A137

    The second vote was on an amendment offered by Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA) to permanently ban congressional earmarks.

    Toomey’s earmark ban was also defeated 40-59 with 46 Democrats and 13 Republicans opposing it.

    http://senateconservatives.com/site/votes/112/2/8?c=5R4F2B4F9B3A137

  21. The next time the DemocRATS lie and say there’s no evidence of voter fraud, meaning actual ineligible people casting votes, just cite this story:

    http://www.nbc-2.com/story/16662854/2012/02/02/nbc2-investigates-voter-fraud

    “Two elections supervisors are taking action after an NBC2 investigation uncovers flawed record keeping and human error allowing people who are not citizens of the United States to vote.

    No one knows how widespread this problem is, because county election supervisors have no way to track non-citizens who live here.

    So NBC2 did something election officials never thought to do, and found them on our own.

    I vote every year,” Hinako Dennett told NBC2.

    The Cape Coral resident is not a US citizen, yet she’s registered to vote.

    NBC2 found Dennett after reviewing her jury excusal form. She told the Clerk of Court she couldn’t serve as a juror because she wasn’t a U.S. citizen.

    We found her name, and nearly a hundred others like her, in the database of Florida registered voters.

    Naples resident Yvonne Wigglesworth is also a not a citizen, but is registered to vote. She claims she doesn’t know how she got registered.

    “I have no idea. I mean, how am I supposed to know.”

    Records show Wigglesworth voted six times in elections dating back eleven years.

    “I know you cannot vote before you become a citizen, so I never tried to do anything like that,” Samuel Lincoln said.

    He isn’t a U.S. citizen either, but the Jamaican national says he doesn’t know how he ended up registered to vote.

    “It’s their mistake, not mine,” said Lincoln.

    We obtained a copy of his 2007 voter registration application. It’s clearly shows he marked U.S. citizen.

    This is under oath, that document, they are attesting that it is true and by falsifying, it’s a third degree felony,” said Tim Durham, Collier County’s chief elections supervisor.

    County supervisors of elections tell me they have no way to verify citizenship. Under the 1992 Motor Voter Law, they’re not required to ask for proof.

    “We have no policing authority. We don’t have any way of bouncing that information off any other database that would give us that information,” said Lee County Supervisor of Elections Sharon Harrington.

    NBC2: Does that need to change??

    Harrington: “I think it needs to be looked at.”

    Until that happens, the only way supervisors of elections can investigate voter fraud is if they get a tip.

    So that’s what our list became. After showing them the nearly 100 names we compiled, both county election offices sent letters to each voter, asking them verify citizenship.

    “It could be very serious. It could change the whole complexion of an election,” said Harrington. [Is that racist? Complexion? What a Freudian slip!]

    It’s important we don’t know we know if these folks are here illegal or not, just they are potentially not U.S. citizens who registered to vote.[Oh, I got it. They’re going to say they lied about not being citizens to get out of jury duty.]

    Voters who received letters have 30 days to show proof of citizenship, or they’ll be taken off the registration rolls.

    Based on our investigation, both election offices say they’ll now request a copy of every jury excusal form where residents say they can’t serve because they’re not a citizen.”

    There’s video at the link, too. So here’s the missing proof of non-citizens illegally voting. This is FLORIDA. One of the most contested states. The infamous 2000 hanging chad state. Guaranteed this is the case in EVERY “blue state”. Massive vote fraud. Guaranteed. It’s beyond outrageous. Just like with Barry’s ineligibility, they pretend they have no way to VET either candidates or voters.

  22. But the REAL question is who checked them as citizen ?
    Smells…

  23. Bad news is out over at ORYR. What has this country become?

    • Wait for the order but it looks like bad news. Plaintiff Ken Powell says that Malihi says Barry born in Hawaii so a NBC. IF this is true, can Orly appeal? It’s outrageous, sad, so sad for our country, if this is true. Should they have taken the default ruling? Who knows? I had a sinking feeling when they refused that, but it was probably a set up anyway you look at it. He couldn’t have looked at Orly’s evidence and come to any conclusion that Obama has PROVEN his eligibility, when Obama has provided NOTHING in the form of evidence. NOTHING. IF the judge accepted a digital image on a blog or an uncertified printout from the internet as evidence, he’s set a new and lower standard for evidence.

    • http://www.examiner.com/news-you-can-use-in-atlanta/update-on-georgia-s-eligibility-hearing-for-president-obama

      “The decision of Judge Malihi regarding the eligibility of President Barack Obama to be on the Georgia Presidential Preference Primary ballot on March 6, 2012, could be sent to the office of Secretary of State Brian P. Kemp soon.

      In a phone conversation with Ms. Ruff, the Judge’s secretary, she stated that her impression was that the Judge would be making his final decision; and forwarding the case on to the Secretary of State’s office as early at this evening – or Monday morning.

      There is a lot of interest all across America concerning the Judge’s decision since the hearing was held here in Atlanta last month. The controversy is whether or not President Obama is a “natural born” citizen; which is required by the United States Constitution to be President.

      Currently the Judge is going over all the aspects of the hearing with all of the “legal eagles” making sure that all the t’s are crossed and the i’s are dotted.”

      Matt Carrothers, Press Secretary at the Secretary of State’s Office, stated as of noon today, they had not yet received a decision from the Judge.

      There were certain steps necessary before forwarding it on to Brian Kemp’s office.

      1. The Judge would need to consider the testimony, evidence, and the cases presented by both sides. Then he would render what is called “Findings of Facts,” and/or “Initial Decision”.

      2. When he makes a decision, it will be sent to Secretary of State Brian P. Kemp’s office along with all the records

      3. Then Secretary of State will make his decision based on the evidence and the Judge’s decision.

      Valerie Ruff, secretary to the Judge, stated a few moments ago that the word from the Judge is that his decision is likely to be sent to the Secretary of State’s office either this evening or Monday.

      Based on the outcome of the decision made by the Secretary of State’s office, there could be an appeal if President Obama is deemed not eligible to be on the Georgia ballot because of his birth.”

      • This was 22 minutes ago.

      • Miri, I just got this from my friend in the mountains;
        can’t believe that ORLY was SOOOOO stupid to not get the experts qualified prior to getting their testimony…. That is MORE than just stupid…. I hope it wasn’t intentional

        I can’t believe it. … That is law school 101…. Qualifying of witnesses! Wow
        She got NOTHING into evidence…. What a sham!!!

        Only hope of the other cases is conflict of law appeal as it seems this decision conflicts with the supreme court……….but with the make up of the supreme court it also will go NOWHERE!

    • I am dumb struck! I have no words. I only have tears.

  24. http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/02/03/white-house-insider-obama-complains-i-wanna-be-cool-again/

    “Regarding that little singing bit the president did recently. The Al Green thing. If you haven’t seen the clips of that then look it up. Easy to find. It’s been spread wide and far. And that was the plan. That moment was rehearsed to death. As in over and over and over again. Apparently the president has been complaining for some time that he’s no longer cool. He was actually in on a meeting with some of the Plouffe gang and told them more than once he wanted to be cool again. “Like in ’08. We were the sh-t back in 08″. Those are the president’s words. He is obsessed with getting back to being cool like in ’08. It’s become something of a theme apparently in-house among the younger staff. They have started to greet one another with “Are we cool again?” as a joke.

    So anyway, back to that singing thing the president did. Told he practiced that little line for days. Seems likely that Obama spent more time on trying to sound good on that bit than he has on dealing with anything else facing the country. They brought in a voice coach. He was playing the song over and over again. It was a complete focus. Pretty damn sad.

    Now if you watch the video of it you can see that he colored his hair again. Got the stage makeup up on. And you see how he pauses and gets very serious as he prepares to sing that one little line. That’s the give-away. That’s what he does every time he is trying to look spontaneous during a moment that he has actually practiced over and over for. He is very insecure. Talked with you about that many times before. So he pauses, you see himself getting ready for the moment and then he does the bit.”

    More at the link. PHONY in every sense.

  25. Miri:
    What were the four names Of Stanley Ann Dunham, simply a different spelling, Soetoro or Suturo? Stanley Ann Dunham in Tanah Bali? –scrubbed. Camels in Bali and swanky resorts? It would take a camel caravan? Stanley Ann Dunham? Saud’s? Lolo Soetoro died of liver failure 1935-1987. Obama’s relatives who knew him in America are dead? Obama relatives in Africa. Obama’s SS# of the deceased? Obama groomed? The question marks are my questions. Trying to play catch-up. The archives are too large to search. Did Obama steal the identity of a dead person and who would help him? And why? Seachin and will continue.

    • Well, she used to be Shirley Ann Dunham. https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/02/01/shirley-we-hardly-knew-ye-open-thread/

      They spell her name Soetoro and Sutoro. And maybe Sotoro. Lolo had multiple names, too. Martodijardjo. Mangundihardjo. (Forgive me if I misspell them, I’m rusty.) She’s Ann and Anna Obama. She’s Stanley Ann. She’s S. Ann Dunham.

      We don’t know for sure when she died. Her aunt said 1970. Her “son” says 1995. We don’t know when Lolo died, either. We don’t know when her husbands were born. Different dates of birth for both.

      WE DON’T KNOW WHO OBAMA IS, OR WHO HIS PARENTS ARE.

  26. The judge’s order relies on the INDIANA state court decision and he misspells the name of the case.

    He basically said none of Orly’s evidence is persuasive because the witness were not properly proved to be experts in the field.

    Then he talks Wong Kim Ark. This reads like something sent to him by obots. They should not have stipulated that he was born in Hawaii to the parents he claims. They should have simply argued: He has not proved his identity. The non-Orly lawyers argued against this very stuff he’s citing about Indiana state court and Wong Kim Ark. It sounds as if he didn’t take anything they said into account. Amazing. Very sad day for our country.

    • In short, they, he, is afraid of the son-of- a-bitch.

    • This reads like something sent to him by obots.

      Miri, I came across this the other day –

      http://www.scribd.com/doc/79011051/Robin-Hood-Ex-Rel-Obama-v-OSAH-and-Secretary-of-State-State-of-Georgia

      • It is and it is also derogatory ,parses words itself and is sarcastic . Proves to me this was the Obama, fake kenyan daddy trick all along. And why Georgia and Hawaii with the pompas rascist overtones of the language used here. This is indeed something someone has been waiting for if this is an approach used. I read it all, this is a compilation of a planned argument from the start. Maybe there is a reason even that dufous Jablonsky was put forth as the lawyer . There are some issues here totally washed over with fancy partial language of case law. Notice even the author/authors….Taiwan…..Ha,ha……..

        Good ole Mommy dearest Ann and “Blessed Barack H. Obama……

        This has the taunting words of people who want to make Bigots out of Americans and the constitution.

  27. I guess it’s pretty ironic that a judge ignores a “TXE” for “THE” and in his decision he spells what he calls the crucial case “ARKENY” instead of “ANKENY”.

    Justice is only an illusion in America. Justice died in GA today. There is no Constitution. There is no rule of law.

    Someday, the obots who today celebrate this injustice will rue this day. They will rue it because they know not what they are doing by supporting such total corruption, just as Hitler’s early supporters hadn’t any clue.

  28. No citation for contempt, either, that I can see.

  29. http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/judge-obama-eligible-to-1330300.html

    How quickly the Zombie Press rises from the dead to report pro-Barry news. And they had to get in the “birther” epithet, too.

    • Less than an hour and now there are 12 stories in the Zombie Press. The judge “soundly rejects the GA birther claims” one says. It’s a coup. It can be nothing else.

  30. It’s just a pitiful ruling. Are there no judges who would uphold the constitution and law?

    • We thought we had one, didn’t we? There is no honor left in this country. There is apparently no bravery left, either. The Founders would be so ashamed to see what has become of the great system they designed. Corruption up and down the line. Both parties. Completely corrupt. Kemp will not even bother to read the case. He’ll just take the nice political decision that Malihi handed him.

      Orly sounds as if Indiana is the next battleground. But what will they do now? The obots will say that finally a decision was made “on the merits” and we lost.

      WHY, if the judge wasn’t planning to give the default judgment, did he force them to abbreviate their cases? Why weren’t they given ample time to present their cases?

      Are they ALL punking us? Did the one set of lawyers stipulate, so this is the result? WTF is going on?

      This is NOT how you change the Constitution, by ignoring it.

      This is 2008 redux when we all felt in our guts that the fix was in, that somebody was holding a Trump card (or a figurative, or worse, a literal gun to someone’s head), and Barry would be potus, no matter what McCain did or did not do.

      Remember the fake Air Force One? The fake presidential seal, even as a candidate? He knew, somehow, and it wasn’t because he’s clairvoyant. He’s a puppet and we still don’t know who the puppetmaster is, but I feel so sad for our late, great Republic. This next year will be a horrid one. Frightening. We pray for our country. Will God hear us?

  31. Justice is not in the eyes of the beholder it is in the eyes of the brave, Damn Obama and damn the socialist party and the jackass they rode in on.

  32. Orly points out at her blog that GA law requires the candidate to prove eligibility. Obama proved nothing. He presented nothing.

    BUT her lovely co-plaintiffs decided to stipulate that Barry was born in Hawaii to SAD. TY, brilliant chess players.

    Go to Orly’s to read. I cannot figure out how to cut and paste her comments. They are what one would expect from someone who escaped from the tyranny of the Soviet Union. God help the USA. She also feels that obots wrote the opinion for Malihi and that just may be true, so CORRUPT is this Obamanation. harvey g, you may be right. Who ISN’T afraid in this time in our nation’s history? Only those who aren’t paying attention and who blithely go about their business, never realizing the danger that faces our freedom.

    She’s going to ask for a stay, pending reconsideration and filing the petition for the letters rogatory.

  33. Obama the head of the UCMJ stuck out his third finger to Law of the land. Saying I am above the law, I am a privledged son of a bitch. Essentially saying to the hundreds of thousands of Armed forces troops it is us against them. Obama is pitting the Armed Forces Against US. That sorry MFER.

  34. I just read something funny at Free Republic. A little levity. Someone called someone the Hildebeast. 🙂

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