Posted by Miri December 8, 2011
Now that we’re entering, in earnest, another presidential campaign, it behooves us to reprise a most excellent post by friend, fellow blogger, and “founding father” of our blog, itooktheredpill (and we all hope to soon escape the Obama Matrix).
His post, first published on August 27, 2008, is comprehensive in scope and will astound you with the sheer number of TRUTHS that defy challenge. Are you up to the challenge? An excerpt:
This is A Different “9/11 Truth”. Very different from the “9/11 Truther” norm. I challenge anyone to disprove even a single one of the Truth: statements below.
Truth: Years ago, William Ayers and the Weather Underground bombed the US Capitol Building.
Truth: William Ayers said, “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Truth: Those words were printed in the New York Times on the exact same day that both New York City and the US Capital city were bombed with commercial jets…September 11, 2001. It is believed that the 4th jet, which passengers tried to take back and which crashed in PA, was intended to hit the US Capitol Building.
Opinion: Given what Ayers said, I assume that he would have been pleased to see that 4th jet hit the Capitol Building.
Question: What did William Ayers know about the 9/11 attacks, and when did he know it?
Truth: William Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn named their two children Zayd and Malik.
Truth: Zayd is an Arabic name meaning “one who progresses and makes other people progress.” The most famous person in Islam named Zayd is Zayd ibn Harithah, who was the orphan boy fostered by the Muslim Prophet Muhammad.
Truth: Malik is an Arabic word meaning “king”. Malik is one of the names of Allah, “King” in the absolute sense.
Truth: On April 2, 2009 President Barack Hussein Obama bent low to the King of the country which supplied most of the 9/11 terrorists. That same King is also considered the guardian of Mecca.
Truth: On June 4, 2009 that same King Abdullah awarded Obama Saudi Arabia’s highest honor the King Abdul Aziz Order of Merit.
Truth: An author with several books of his own has laid out evidence in support of the hypothesis that Barack Obama needed substantial help to write his 1995 memoir, Dreams From My Father, and that this help came from the man who has made “unrepentant” a household word, William (Bill) Ayers. (A follow-up article is here).
Truth: Blogger Anne Leary reported on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 that on Monday morning she had encountered Bill Ayers at Reagan National airport in D.C., and this was part of the conversation:
Then, unprompted he said–I wrote Dreams From My Father. I said, oh, so you admit it. He said–Michelle asked me to. I looked at him. He seemed eager. He’s about my height, short. He went on to say–and if you can prove it, we can split the royalties. So I said, stop pulling my leg. Horrible thought. But he came again–I really wrote it, the wording was similar. I said I believe you probably heavily edited it. He said–I wrote it.
Truth: William Ayers’ forgotten communist manifesto: Prairie Fire.
Read the rest here, at itooktheredpill’s blog. Be sure to read three-years-worth of comments, too, and then add your own thoughts to them. Then come back here for an open thread.
To paraphrase Santayana:
Those who do not recognize the TRUTH of HISTORY, are doomed to repeat it.
Let us not repeat the mistake of 2008. See the truth. Remember the truth. Repeat the TRUTH. Ever and always. Our Republic depends upon it.
Bridgette
itooktheredpill
Miri
newssleuth
We the People of the United States 
Kathy linked this on the previous thread, but it’s worth repeating for the importance of the issue:
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-phoenix/liberty-legal-foundation-serves-dnc-with-obama-eligibility-complaint#ixzz1fvMQRNZI Liberty Legal Foundation suit against the DNC:
“The LLF lawsuit cites the 1875 U.S. Supreme Court decision, Minor v. Happersett, in which the court defined “natural-born citizens” as “all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens.”
The LLF’s motion for preliminary injunction states, “Because it is undisputed that Mr. Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen, Mr. Obama can never be a natural-born citizen, as that term was defined by the U.S. Supreme Court. Therefore Mr. Obama cannot meet the constitutional requirements to hold the office of President.”
According to Irion, any representation by the Democratic Party that Obama is constitutionally qualified to hold the office of President would constitute “negligent misrepresentation or fraud.”
The motion, Irion says, relies upon “uncontested facts and a Supreme Court-defined term.”
The complaint seeks to enjoin the defendants from issuing any letters, certificates or other documents to any secretary of state of any state indicating Obama is qualified to hold the office of President, selecting Obama as its presidential candidate, or requesting Obama be placed on any ballot for the office of President of the United States for the 2012 general election. …
Irion called the Constitution an “anti-democratic document,” stating, “Principles do not fall to popularity.”
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio arrived toward the end of the meeting to a standing ovation. Referring to the Obama investigation, he told the audience, “The posse – They’re doing pretty good on this case. Something fishy is going on. Where there’s smoke there’s fire.” …
He asked, “Why wouldn’t they [the Republicans] want to get to the bottom of this?”
While he’s doing the investigation at the behest of the people of Maricopa County, Arpaio said,
“If it affects the whole nation, that’s not my fault. I think people deserve to know the real story. Maybe there’s nothing to it. But, I don’t know. It doesn’t look good.” …
He stated what the posse was doing was interesting and said, “My guys are pretty good. Forget the birth certificate. We’re looking at other things. We’re going to do something – I promise you,” adding, their investigation “will not disappoint.”
Alluding Obama could conceivably be an illegal alien, which he said was “not that far off,” Arpaio chided the mainstream media for ignoring the issue … ”
Well, they ignore Barry’s “gaffes” (most recent mistaking Kansas for Texas) while hyping ever so-called gaffe by conservatives. So why not “ignore” his ineligibility?
Two more links: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=375329#ixzz1fvM860F6
Arpaio said, “The American people deserve to know the truth about Obama,” Arpaio said. “We are a major law enforcement agency – one of the largest in the nation – and we have at our disposal investigative tools not generally available, even to the top private investigator in the country. We don’t plan to stop until we discover the truth.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2817194/posts
Great post Miri, Redpill.
http://www.globemagazine.com/story/761
That would be no surprise unless agent is not male.
Maybe they do not play. Maybe they pass secret agent stuff ?
Maybe they have decoder rings that match too……
I am asking Santa for one for Christmas. I want sparkly, candy looking stuff on top of mine with crystals and rubys and diamonds and pearls and oh well….you get it. I want a decoder ring with real BLING.
Oh, me, too! I see the ring I want in the WSJ all the time. It’s at Tiffany. Only problem–costs about as much as my house. 🙂
Barack Hussein Obama II, illegal President, was born August 4, 1961 at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya and not in Hawaii as he claims. This may explain why he allowed Hawaii to release only a highly-questionable, computer-generated abstract of his purported long-form birth certificate. Furthermore, he authorized this release only after ignoring countless requests by concerned citizens to make the document available for nearly three years.
A high resolution copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate is available for free download at WasObamaBornInKenya.com . The site also allows convenient viewing of the video, “Lucas Daniel Smith and the Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate”. Over 85,000 viewers have already visited the site.
The fascinating story of how Lucas Daniel Smith obtained a certified copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate directly from the birth hospital on February 19, 2009 is included as part of his ‘July 4, 2010 Letter to Congress’, which is also available for free download at the same website.
For what it’s worth:
I have no clue who Bruce Steadman is, nor do I know Lucas Daniel Smith, other than that he’s a personality on the Web. From what I can see, Steadman has commented here a grand total of TWICE (11/2010 and 12/2011).
We’re agnostic about these Kenyan birth certificates, as anybody who reads this blog would know. I don’t know who “Falcon” is, either. I’m not associated in any way with the Birther Report, other than that sometimes, if their stories interest me or our readers, I will link to them.
It’s no “coincidence” that I “immediately” commented after somebody whose comment I likely MODERATED, as I’m an author and moderator on this blog. Gee. I supposed it’s a “pervasive coincidence” when Dr. Conspiracy comments after somebody who just commented on his own blog. DUH.
As for photos, if I find an interesting and pertinent photo on an image search, I might link to it or use it for educational purposes to illustrate a point. I’ve linked to White House photos, too. And Huffpo photos. And even FactCheck photos. I link to whatever I can find on the Web that suits my purposes.
Like Dr. Conspiracy, we try to keep open minds and are fascinated by this topic of Obama’s origins and his ever-shifting biography.
Also for what this is worth, if anybody writes any comments here threatening violence to ANYONE, that person will NEVER get through moderation and if it’s someone who already was given the privilege to comment here, then the privilege will be rescinded ASAP.
I don’t appreciate anybody trying to connect me to someone who threatens violence, even if only by innuendo. So far as I know, this guy in question has NEVER commented here and likely would never be allowed to, based upon the comments cited by Dr. Conspiracy. If, however, he uses a different pseudonym, then I’d have no way of knowing and, in addition, since I don’t know his IP# or email address, I wouldn’t be able to connect the dots, anyway.
Another for what it’s worth: We’re also still waiting for the “universe shattering” information, but, speaking for myself, with increasing skepticism.
There you go again Miri! providing a timely response from some steadperson.
You must be renting space in the Con Doctor’s Head. He’s riding on your coattails. I hated that I even had to venture a click in that mud hole sty.
We The People of the United States, a national archive.
btw, where is a citizen jounralist supposed to get the photos? On the whitehouse/ofa website, perhaps?
Ha, ha, TY, Papoose. As a matter of fact, I’ve even cadged photos from OFA sometimes! Methinks he knows about tineye but who knows? I know we’re “watched” but why? Isn’t this a free country where we all have free speech? Oh, wait! I forgot. It’s the Obamanation. And WE’RE supposed to be the “conspiracy theorists”.
Speaking of photos, wonder where he keeps the First Fly when he’s off camera…
yes. that was a weird post and one bald faced lie. Proof that deceit is a well employed tactic. You were abused, gratuitously, for every known reason.
“Don’t Feed the Trolls.”
http://europenews.dk/en/node/50301
A frightening thought for the women of America. A two-in-one? FEMA rape camps?
Are these people human ?
One wonders. Did you see the story where a judge in Afghanistan (ladies of America, take note: We paid for this country’s “freedom”) granted leniency to a rape VICTIM. She would get a PARDON for HER crime (of being raped) on one condition: She has to MARRY her RAPIST. How many billions have we wasted on these people and freedom for their MEN? Women of the USA need to stop supporting this HORROR. Where are the feminists NOW? (Pun intended.)
Did somebody catch this one already? Sorry if it’s linked elsewhere. It’s worth a reprise, too:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/284917/trump-questions-obamas-birth-certificate-katrina-trinko
“In a conference call with reporters this afternoon, Donald Trump questioned the legitimacy of President Obama’s birth certificate.
“A lot of people agree with me,” Trump said in response to a question from World Net Daily’s Robert Unruh.”They find it amazing, that out of — that all of a sudden, miraculously, this birth certificate just appeared. People have questioned the birth certificate, and many people do still question it.”
“I happen to think,” Trump continued, “it’s very strange that after years, all of a sudden it appears. And I’ve also said, ‘How come there are no records that his mother was ever in the hospital?’ There are records that other people were in the hospital at that time… There’s no record that Obama or the mother was. And then you have the grandmother making statements, and you have the family pointing to different hospitals. Look, I have real questions, but I also know Obama is totally protected by the press, and unfairly so, I would say. … I find that it’s a very interesting topic because basically it’s a violation of the law.””
Wow. That must be the kind of “personal attack” the Republicans are afraid of. So is Trump for real or playing rope a dope, again? Is he out there to draw the Republicans off side? What’s his game?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/07/indiana-2008-presidential-primary-election-fraud-probe-heats-up/
About the fraud that got Barry on the ballot in Indiana last time. On FOX News! Not just “birther” sites.
“Charity Rorie, a mother of four, sat in her Mishawaka, Ind., kitchen, stunned that her name appeared on a 2008 Democratic presidential primary petition for then-candidate Barack Obama.
“That’s not my signature,” she told Fox News, saying her signature is “absolutely” a fake. She also said she was troubled someone forged both her signature and that of her husband, Jeff, and listed personal details such as their address and birthdays.
“It’s scary,” Rorie said. “It’s shocking. It definitely is illegal. A lot of people have already lost faith in politics and the whole realm of politics, so that just solidifies all of our worries and concerns.””
Don’t need to tell US it’s scary. We’ve known it since 2008. WAKE UP AMERICA!
More: “The prospect that theirs are two of an estimated 150 signatures that may have been forged on the petitions has raised the question of whether President Obama actually reached the legitimate number of signatures needed to be placed on the ballot in Indiana. Under state law, presidential candidates need to file 500 signatures from each of the state’s nine congressional districts. Indiana election officials say that in St. Joseph County, the Obama campaign qualified with 534 signatures; Clinton’s camp had 704. The certified signatures were never challenged.
“I had always thought that, now-President Obama, had earned his victory in Indiana,” said the state’s Republican chairman, Eric Holcomb. “But then I quickly learned that he had cheated his way on to the ballot in the primary.”
The allegations that election fraud touched a race for the highest office in the land are at the center of an investigation by St. Joseph County Attorney Michael Dvorak. He would not comment, but sources say the probe is gaining steam as prosecutors delve into the petitions that sailed through the St. Joseph County Voter Registration Board, located in South Bend. There have been reports that as many as seven people may have been involved in an alleged conspiracy to fake the petitions.”
With this Justice Dept., will there, can there, be justice? OMG, read on in the story. The DemocRATS are back to using the “sloppy” defense. A la Sandy Burglar.
Finally, “”This is the Chicago way and it will not be tolerated in the state of Indiana,” Holcomb said. “I would tell my friends across the country that they have to be on the lookout as well, because it’s just fact that some folks will do anything to try and win an election.””
Really ? Amazing…I am so surprised at this one Miri and Sheriff Joe is digging too. All of this is gaining traction fast. I think that thousands and thousands of people have put this together now and have networked the information needed to start to let the truth out. This is the only way it could happen properly. With thousands…
If we all would have been told the honest story things could be so different for Obama. Different for us and the world too. That leads back to our original question when we started reading together Miri. WHY ?
Did we miss this one, too?
http://www.azinews.com/2011/11/29/10131/
MORE INS records for Lolo. Jack Cashill has analyzed them. I haven’t had time to do it yet: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=375177
“First, a caution: Many of these documents have been fully redacted or referred to the State Department, and the ones that are posted, although real, may not be reliable. It is altogether possible that Soetoro was being handled at the time by the U.S. government. WND continues to investigate.
For the mainstream media, however, these documents represent the official record. As such, they play havoc with the Obama narrative first spun in “Dreams From My Father” and accepted uncritically by the MSM ever since.
They also shed additional light on how Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (Ann), casually fabricated facts to game the system, a trait her son would inherit. … [BHO Sr.] never lived with Ann. But as Soetoro’s INS file confirms, Soetoro filled the void almost immediately and would do so for the next 11 years. According to Janny Scott, the New York Times reporter who spent years researching Ann’s life, Soetoro began dating Ann in late 1963 right around the time Obama turned 2. There are photos to prove it.
Soetoro was expected to return to Indonesia in 1964, both to comply with American immigration law and to honor his contract with the Indonesian government. He did not want to go.
So he got married. On her 1981 passport application, Ann claims March 5, 1964, as her marriage date. Scott confirms this date in her book, “A Singular Woman”: “[Soetoro] and Ann had married on March 5, 1964, shortly after she divorced Obama.”
Very shortly indeed! If Scott were paying attention to dates, she would have noticed that Ann formally divorced Obama on that very same day, March, 5, 1964. According to Soetoro’s INS file, he and Ann would not marry officially until March 15, 1965.”
Gee, didn’t we point that out already? See the O Timeline. He continues:
“… It was in this same uncertain atmosphere of July 1965 that Ann applied for a passport. Although the State Department claimed to have “destroyed” the 1965 application and any that preceded it in a routine purge, a 1968 renewal application exists.
By 1968, the future president had moved to Indonesia with his mother and stepfather, and his mother listed him on the passport application as “Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah).”
The “Soebarkah” has never been well explained, but it may be a compound name Soe-Bar-kah suggesting that “Bar” as in “Barack” has been adopted by “Soe,” as in “Soetoro.”
There is one other bit of evidence to consider. Before signing the application, Ann had to attest to several conditions. Most would have no applicability to her son – for instance, serving in a foreign army or voting in a foreign election – but one might.
It reads as follows: “I have not (and no other person to be included in the passport or documentation has), since acquiring United States citizenship, been naturalized as a citizen of a foreign state.”
The application then cautions the signer that if any of these acts apply to anyone named on the passport, “the portion which applies should be struck out.”
Likely after reading this, Ann struck out the name “Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah)” with five carefully placed scratch lines. This would seem to strengthen the case that Obama was adopted by Soetoro and became a citizen of Indonesia. … The documentation surrounding Soetoro’s re-entry is maddeningly scrubbed from the record. It appears, however, that the INS relented and allowed Soetoro back in a few months after he left and that he remained in Hawaii for the remainder of the time Ann was there.
Why authorities felt the need to conceal this information and refer it to the State Department for adjudication is the subject of an ongoing WND investigation.
Ann returned to Indonesia for fieldwork in 1975 with Maya, but without her 13-year-old son, who remained behind with his grandparents.
Scott says little about Soetoro’s whereabouts during this period, although she notes that Ann and Maya went to live with Soetoro’s mother in early 1976. The couple would not divorce until 1980. … Scott fully ignores the possibility that Ann may have had a friend in high places guiding her through these bureaucratic labyrinths and getting her a job finally with the Ford Foundation in 1981.
The Ford Foundation archives have revealed any number of joint projects undertaken with the CIA. Whether Ann or Soetoro was involved in any of these projects is a subject Scott and her colleagues dare not broach.”
A story ESPECIALLY for Red Pill:
What’s wrong with this photo?
Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha. The Swedish are catching on. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/12/swedish-paper-obama-photoshopped-into-famous-situation-room-photo/
Or course, we scooped the LSM (lamestream media) on this one, too. We knew he was photoshopped in. Just like Zelig and Forrest Gump.
Suffering from peanut head. Just like baby Maya in the infamous Indonesian family on the couch photo.
Check out this entire thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2715492/posts
Wgo captured our top secret stealth drone?
The Iranians don’t have the technology to conduct the electronic ambush.
Debka
Iran exhibits US drone undamaged. US and Israeli intelligence shocked
DEBKAfile Special Report December 8, 2011, 7:25 PM (GMT+02:00)
Tags: US-Israel Iran nuclear drones Intelligence covertwar
Iran displays captured US RQ-170 drone
Iran exhibited the top-secret US stealth drone RQ-170 Sentinel captured on Sunday, Dec. 4. Its almost perfect condition confirmed Tehran’s claim that the UAV was downed by a cyber attack, meaning it was not shot down but brought in undamaged by an electronic warfare ambush.
This is a major debacle for the stealth technology the US uses in its warplanes and the drone technology developed by the US and Israel.
The state of the lost UAV refutes the US military contention that the Sentinel’s systems malfunctioned. If this had happened, it would have crashed and either been wrecked or damaged. The condition of the RQ-170 intact obliges the US and Israel to make major changes in plans for a potential strike against Iran’s nuclear program.
Earlier Thursday, debkafile reported:
The Obama administration’s decision after internal debate not to send US commando or air units into Iran to retrieve or destroy the secret RQ-170 stealth drone which fell into Iranian hands has strengthened the hands of the Israeli faction which argues the case for striking Iran’s nuclear installations without waiting for the Americans to make their move.
Senior Israeli diplomatic and security officials who followed the discussion in Washington concluded that, by failing to act, the administration has left Iran not only with the secrets of the Sentinel’s stealth coating, its sensors and cameras, but also with the data stored in its computer cells on targets marked out by the US and/or Israeli for attack.
debkafile’s military sources say that this knowledge compels the US and Israel to revise their plans of attack for aborting the Iranian nuclear program.
Like every clandestine weapons system, the RQ-170 had a self-destruct mechanism to prevent its secrets spilling out to the enemy in the event of a crash or capture. This did not happen. Tehran was able to claim the spy drone was only slightly damaged when they downed it.
The NATO spokesman claimed control was lost of the US UAV and it went missing, a common occurrence for these unmanned aircraft.
The enigmas surrounding its capture continue to pile up. How did Iran know the drone had entered its airspace? How was it caused to land? Most of all, why did the craft’s self-destruct mechanism which is programmed to activate automatically fail to work? And if it malfunctioned, why was it not activated by remote control?
Thursday, Dec. 8, The New York Times and the Wall Street Journal reported that from Sunday, Dec. 4, when Tehran announced the stealth drone’s capture, the Obama administration weighed sending special commando forces into Iran from bases in Afghanistan to bring the downed aircraft back to Afghanistan or blow it up to destroy the almost intact secret systems – either by a sneak operation or by an air strike.
Iranian officials said the drone was detected near the Iranian town of Kashmar, 200 kilometers from the Afghan border and presumably moved to a military or air base inside the country. The NYT disclosed that the special force would have used “allied agents inside Iran” to hunt down the missing aircraft, the first time Washington has admitted to support from “allied agents” operating covertly in Iran.
In the end, the paper quoted a US official as explaining that the attack option was ruled out “because of the potential it could become a larger incident.” If an assault team entered the country, the US “could be accused of an act of war” by Tehran.
The Obama administration’s internal discussion on how to handle the loss of the high-value reconnaissance drone was followed tensely in Jerusalem. The decision it took against mounting a mission to recover or destroy the top-secret Sentinel was perceived in Israel as symptomatic of a wider decision to call off the covert war America has been conducting for some months against Iran’s drive for a nuclear bomb – at least until the damage caused by RQ-170 incident is fully assessed.
A senior Israeli security official had this to say: “Everything that’s happened around the RQ-170 shows that when it comes to Iran and its nuclear program, the Obama administration and Israel have different objectives. On this issue, each country needs to go its own way.”
snip
So maybe the Russians did it for Iran?
Maybe
They would have to have had an espionage spectacular.
More likely,
We did it ourselves, under Obama direct orders to our craven new Chief of Staff,
Ya know they got rid of Petraeus for a reason.
dave, Maybe they got the drone as a Christmas gift ? Santa baby….
You can’t make it up!
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/page/2/?refresh=true
“An Islamic cleric residing in Europe said that women should not be close to bananas or cucumbers, in order to avoid any “sexual thoughts.”
The unnamed sheikh, who was featured in an article on el-Senousa news, was quoted saying that if women wish to eat these food items, a third party, preferably a male related to them such as their a father or husband, should cut the items into small pieces and serve.
He said that these fruits and vegetables “resemble the male penis” and hence could arouse women or “make them think of sex.”
He also added carrots and zucchini to the list of forbidden foods for women.
The sheikh was asked how to “control” women when they are out shopping for groceries and if holding these items at the market would be bad for them. The cleric answered saying this matter is between them and God.”
Didn’t he REALLY say allah? I like to stick one …
What a sick freak. He must have a thing for those foods himself, and not for snacking. Otherwise he would never dream up this sick garbage. Notice it is always the rapist that blames the victim. Sick freak. Head lives in toilet bowl.
Man Miri, if they are this concerned that their women are this sexually unsatisfied then that means……………?
Someone not doing the job right maybe ? You have to be very unsatisfied to see stars when looking at a vegetable………..Maybe sex education classes for men there should be in order instead. Gross.
Exactamente! Funny, Renee. 🙂
Good one, dave m. Kumquats! Why do I think of W. C. Fields now?
what about kumquats?
kumquats ?
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahahahahhahhhhhhhhhh !
Pick your fruit dave !
ROTFLMAO! this conversation is a little too deep for me! 🙂
But I do agree Renee, they are SICK in the head.
Nasty!
Those idiots muslim guys are stupid. Let me state to you, I’m 58 years old, and when my husband and I were younger,much younger, we’d go to the grocery store and get food, and we’d always joke about the stupid squash, the cucumbers, etc., in just a joking manner between husband and wife. No! We didn’t use them sexually. Believe it or not, husbands and wives are permitted to joke about things between each other even per the Scriptures.
I’m convinced that those guys and gals over there, or that follow that religious system, if one call it that, are extremely depressed, sexually repressed and just have plain old evil notions to which they can’t handle anything normal about a healthy married, adult relationship of any kind.
For goodness sake, people have joked about veggies of all shapes and sizes for decades as well as sausages. I’ve heard all kinds of jokes throughout my lifetime, and I’m just being 100% honest here.
The men are infants. Perpetual infants. Insecure mama’s boys.
Those muslim men are idiots, plain and simple. They probably sit around with their tongues hanging out looking at women, and then tell all women that they’re evil. They are sick, perverted b@stards. I agree with Pam Geller on that. Actually they’re hypocrites.
That is the worst false religion ever. It wasn’t even started until about the 8th century C.E. (AD). It’s false! Here’s the kicker, we ask, well, why would they want that religion anyway? Answer: It appeals to their sense of violence and the tough guy mentality.
That’s why, folks. And does anyone ever ask them what they think that they’re going to do with 72 virgins in “heaven”? Haahaa…bet they haven’t thought that one through.
Next, if they knew the kingdom was going to be on the earth in the resurrections, what do you think they’d do?
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/search?q=islam
It’s hard to imagine a better example of the paranoid fear of female sexuality. The article once again reminds me that much of Muslim culture (particularly in the Middle East) has evolved into a structure for the sole purpose of containing female sexuality. This containment has not only become a key aspect of the worship of their god; but it also is a key factor in individual personality development; as well as the main pollutant of all social interactions.
The men of Islam are obsessed with sex beyond even the wildest imaginings of the Western male’s mind. And the obsession is extremely bizarre and pathological.
So frequently do we joke about men’s preoccupation with sex and female body parts in the West, that we have failed to notice that the Muslim world is literally consumed by female sexuality and the fear of it. It is ironic that both Muslim men and women are under the mistaken impression that Western society is oversexualized compared to them, when in fact, it is practically impossible to be more obsessed with sexual matters than they are in Muslim communities.
Consider for a moment a culture that would prefer to let little girls die in a burning building than to risk having them run out of said building not clothed in properly modest dress; and tell me that such a society is less preoccupied with matters of sex than we are in the West.
Enormous effort goes into veiling women, dressing women modestly, silencing women, covering women’s bodies, punishing women, controlling women, reviling women, humiliating women, beating women, subjugating women, avoiding the dishonor of women, keeping women uneducated, policing women, infantilizing women–in short, dehumanizing women — all under the guise of “protecting” and “honoring” them as they relegate them to animal-like status.
The women in this misogynistic Islam are brainwashed from birth into thinking that this cultural preoccupation somehow is necessary and that it “liberates” them in some bizarre manner.
Amazingly, this medieval culture has grasped the fundamentals of both Orwellian and postmodern rhetorical rationalizations, that are so prominent in certain intellectual quarters within our own culture! I have heard the canned rationalizations coming from th lips of muslim women myself; and they all claim that it frees them from having to be “sexual objects.”
Honey, go eat some bananas and cucumbers.
So frequently do we joke about men’s preoccupation with sex and female body parts in the West, that we have failed to notice that the Muslim world is literally consumed by female sexuality and the fear of it. It is ironic that both Muslim men and women are under the mistaken impression that Western society is oversexualized compared to them, when in fact, it is practically impossible to be more obsessed with sexual matters than they are in Muslim communities.
It is true tdr. Great comment.
Applause, applause! Great rant, tdr. Agree 100%. To them, their women are just another one of their herd animals. Like sheep and goats, whom they probably USE in the same way.
Hey all. I found some new friends and I’m sending them your way. These are some lovely ladies. They’re gonna love your website. Sorry for cheating on you all here.
here’s their website.
http://thelastcivilright.org/
They now have WTPOTUS.
Greg
Sorry for cheating on you all here.
Greg, we are crushed ! Totally crushed !
But we love new friends so we forgive you and still love you.
thanks Greg. Just enjoyed the lovely ladies at the last civil right post. I’ll enjoy checking back with it from time to time. They were all so clear in there message. Refreshing.
Greg, Thank you. This writer is wonderful. A friend was chatting in a grocery line yesterday and she got into a discussion on the same topic with a nice looking black woman. The woman had the same feelings as this writer. She said that Obama never kept any promises and that now black communities were suffering more. The lady said they had to stop the blame game and be more.
This goes for all colors. Stop the hate and blame game. Be more. Try harder.
Have self discipline and self respect as well as respect for others.
I agree with this writer. I mentioned before my belief in conservative black America. They are here. Those grandmas that told those kids to stay straight, go to church and school, pull up those pants, comb that hair and act right.
Thank you Greg. We hope to meet your friends here. A good post. We welcome them here. Sometimes people can fix things better between themselves. I have never seen the racism I read about. I treat others nice and they are nice to me in return. May we build on that. I still trust common sense and my fellow human being, as we all just want the same basic things. We are not so different after all.
Renee, WTPOTUS is still my first love website. I still promote you all every chance I get. I recommended that last website because I’m pretty sure you’ll love them. Check it out. Them ladies are great.
TY Greg.
Miri,
Thank you very much for your kind words and reference to my post.
Imagine if we had a media that was truly fair and balanced, and applied the same level of investigative scutiny to Barack Obama as to Herman Cain.
You’re welcome. It was and still is a great post. I wish it could get a wider audience. I wish we could get our message out there to more people.
The bias in the media is infuriating. Not just about Obama’s personal life (as compared to Cain and Gingrich) but also how they cover up his radical beliefs and his crooked connections (still waiting for Blago to SING, but I bet there’s a pardon promised), and how they lie about the effects his policies have on our country. I sometimes wonder if we ever had a fair media. Maybe we only thought so because back then, there was no Internet to prove otherwise.
Oh, yeah. And how they focus on Perry’s or Palin’s “gaffes” but IGNORE Obama’s. Kansas is Texas? Who knew? Nobody who only gets their news from the lamestream.
I always figured Blago was more worried about the realities of life like spending more time in the daisy pushing area. He seems more inclined to make the best of life gazing thru some bars as apposed to doing push ups for eternity. He knows them real well, probably better than anyone, that’s why he always felt safer in “PUBLIC”. If he talks it will be A real miracle. I
I belive O and his backers are holding this country in financial hostage. If anyone lets on to his Birth issues and lawlessness, they will pull their funds from the Federal Reserve. Pull the $ instantly,or let us try to withstand a slow fall.
That’s a thought. It just may be. We’ve already seen Soros crash the British pound. I’ve always thought it was some kind of blackmail. Was afraid it was nuclear, though. Those Russian suitcase bombs.
Finally a Brit PM stands up to Bilderberg:
Up Eurs
Euro crisis: Britain stands alone after PM David Cameron’s historic veto
By GRAEME WILSON, Deputy Political Editor, in Brussels,
and KEVIN SCHOFIELD, Political Correspondent
Published: Today
DAVID Cameron has blasted the bully-boys of Europe with a sensational Winston Churchill-style “Up Yours”.
The PM vetoed a new treaty and kept Britain out of a dodgy deal to save the euro.
But his bulldog spirit left the nation facing an unknown future and risking an EU backlash.
The PM last night defended his historic veto of an EU deal intended to save the euro — despite infuriating pro-Europeans.
Jubilant Tory MPs hailed his decision as a massive step towards Britain’s EXIT from the European Union.
Iconic … Winston Churchill
Iconic … Winston Churchill
His stand in Brussels was the first time a British Prime Minister has ever vetoed a EU treaty.
Defiant Mr Cameron insisted he was RIGHT, as the deal threatened the City of London financial hub.
He said: “We were offered a treaty that didn’t have proper safeguards for Britain and I decided it was not right to sign it.”
But EU chiefs turned on him last night for daring to stand up for Britain. And the Coalition was rocked when Nick Clegg warned Britain could end up marginalised in a two-speed Europe.
One Brussels insider warned: “This is going to cost the UK dearly. They have antagonised everyone.”
The PM stuck to his guns during ten hours of bruising negotiations in which he faced intense pressure from French president Nicolas Sarkozy and German chancellor Angela Merkel.
Up to scratch … David Cameron yesterday
Up to scratch … PM yesterday
Mr Cameron had a furious show-down with Mr Sarkozy in the early hours of yesterday morning.
There were even reports that the fuming Frenchman had to be “restrained” at one point.
One French official blasted the PM for demanding concessions but offering nothing in return.
He likened Mr Cameron to “a man who wants to go to a wife-swapping party without taking his own wife”.
Mrs Merkel complained: “I really don’t believe Mr Cameron was ever really with us at the table.”
Last night the EU’s other 26 countries were set to press ahead with their own treaty — leaving Britain on the outside. They agreed new rules on tax and spending by eurozone countries and tougher sanctions to back them up.
The PM insisted Britain will keep its influence in the corridors of powers and remain a member of the EU. He said: “Membership is in our interests.”
Earlier Mr Sarkozy had blamed Britain’s “unacceptable” demands for torpedoing the treaty. At one point during a meeting of leaders yesterday, the French president appeared to “blank” Mr Cameron.
The PM stuck to his guns during ten hours of bruising negotiations in which he faced intense pressure from French president Nicolas Sarkozy and German chancellor Angela Merkel.
Sort of sounds like they were trying to be bullies dave m. Looks like they failed.
Apparently he doesn’t want the sun to set on the British empire. Bully for him. It was veto or lose their sovereignty. I wonder what the Irish are thinking, after having been strong-armed into joining. Now they’re on the inside, looking out. So much for the Celtic Tiger.
“Karl Rove tells of running into “the best writer to occupy the White House since Lincoln” soon after the latter’s second book, Audacity of Hope, was published. “Hey, I understand you got me in your book,” said Rove. “I don’t think so,” Obama replied. Rove continued, “I think you got me in your book saying, ‘we’re a Christian nation.'” Said Obama, “Where’d I say that?” Rove showed him.”
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/is_gallmanns_memoir_the_source_for_obamas.html#ixzz1g3yd8ChR
Even though the American Thinker article is about how Bill Ayers plundered and plagiarized other authors’ novels and works in order to write Obama’s book(s) there is even more revealed by Rove’s “I think you got me in your book” remark.
When Obama can recite the Islamic call to prayer perfectly along with the Islamic confession of faith, Shahada, perfectly and with perfect accent that can mean only one thing. Obama is a practicing Muslim. Practice makes perfect. Yet he can’t recall ever writing in his book that “We’re a Christian nation”. Obama has never practiced saying America is a christian nation. In fact, and if anyone knows the exact words write them in, Obama has in effect said America is NOT a CHRISTIAN NATION.
Obama denies Ameica’s Christianity so why would he write that in his book?, simply because he never wrote the book. Bill Ayers wrote the book for him and even put words in Obama’s mouth which Obama can’t bring himself to speak.
Jack Cashill is the one who suspects Ayers wrote the first book. I think he believes another ghost writer wrote the second one, but someone not as skilled at writing as Ayers, who despite being an unrepentant, radical domestic terrorist, apparently has a way with words.
OR Marcus Tate, the writer, or Ayer’s son the playright. Or, a collusion of all three, but not Ohead/zerohead.
Osawatomie is the place in Kansas that Barry mistook for Texas. It’s where he made his new-old-progressive speech the other day. Now for another subliminal signal from Barry: http://www.trevorloudon.com/2011/12/the-osawatomie-coincidence/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NewZeal+%28New+Zeal+Blog%29
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=70
“We need to build a successful struggle, strong organization and a winning revolutionary party. This is a process, which will not emerge full-blown from our minds. It will emerge and change and grow from practice. We know where to begin.
It is with all this in mind that we have created OSAWATOMIE, the revolutionary voice of the Weather Underground Organization. … The immediate task for the left is this: organize the masses of people against imperialism and for revolution. Pull together friends and comrades, whether three or thirty. Explain the roots of the current economic and social crisis. Fight for jobs and for funds for urgent relief programs. Wealth should be taken from the Pentagon budget and used to rebuild our cities, schools and hospitals. … … the system itself is inhuman, and socialism is a real alternative; the energy crisis is the fault of Rockefeller and the oil companies, not the Arab people; unemployment is caused by capitalism not “illegal aliens” stealing jobs; war in Indochina or the Mideast is part of the problem, not the solution; political and social action can change things.”
We’ve said it before, but check out the similarities between Barry’s O symbol and the Weather Underground symbols.
Has anyone heard on their local news of an old terrorist that they are suddenly looking for Joan Borup. It’s very suspicious why suddenly they are bringing her up. Anyone else heard it? Or is it just in my neck of the woods? Please respond.. She was brought up today on the radio with all the old “may be armed and dangerous, highly intelligent, a discription of her and her crimes….throwing acid in the face of a policeman, ect. . I think her name is Donna Joan Borup, but has many aliases. She’s been on the wanted list for probably 30 years. Why now? I have my suspicions why now..
Part of Bill and Bernadine’s gang.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_19th_Communist_Organization
you should read this: http://newswithviews.com/Kincaid/cliff518.htm
/So did anyone other than me hear about Donna Joan Borup?
Wait a minute Alf.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Evans_(radical)
hummm…
In the case of Joanne Chesimard, who escaped from prison and fled to Cuba with the help of the Weather Underground, The New York Times has reported that she has been so open about her life in Cuba that she was once listed in the Havana telephone book. Chesimard gives interviews to American radicals who visit Cuba, such as the late Manning Marable, the professor of history and political science at Columbia University whose biography of Malcolm X has been released after his recent death.
Chesimard (aka Assata Shakur) has an American attorney, Soffiyah Elijah, who serves as Deputy Director of the Criminal Justice Institute at Harvard Law School. Her bio says, “She has represented numerous political prisoners and social activists over the past 18 years. And, her travels to Cuba over the past 13 years have enabled her to conduct extensive research on the country’s legal system, with a focus on its approach to criminal justice issues.” Elijah also represented the recently deceased communist terrorist Marilyn Buck.
The FBI is offering a reward of up to $1,000,000 for information directly leading to the apprehension of Chesimard. It is against the law to harbor a fugitive.
Incredibly, in the case of Morales, he has been easily accessible on the communist island to far-left media figures such as Amy Goodman, who interviewed him in Havana in 1998. “If Morales returns to the United States, he faces a 99-year jail sentence,” Goodman noted. “Morales was the subject of one of the largest manhunts in US history. In May 1979, William Morales escaped from a guarded third floor room in New York’s Bellevue Hospital prison by climbing down an elastic bandage he dangled outside a window.”
Goodman, who described the terrorist Morales as just a “guerilla fighter,” could not be counted on to provide information about his location to U.S. authorities.
The complicating factor is that Attorney General Eric Holder, when he was deputy attorney general in the Clinton Administration, was involved in pardons for members of the FALN and the Weather Underground.
At the same time, some of the terrorists who did go to jail and either did not get pardons or refused them are now up for parole and want out of prison. One is FALN terrorist leader and founder Oscar Lopez Rivera.
Thanks for putting this here Renee. This subject of terrorist/fugitives/paroles is a very broad topic with many political and gov. connections, so that’s just a tip on the preverbial ice ‘cuba”.
I have been to a website that I think is Assata’s. She’s been there a long time. If we wanted her we could get her…I wonder why we don’t bother. There are also various stories floating around that one of the old liberation army groups and a faction of the radical underground were actually created by CIA.
Not Nides Alf;
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renee, I have no idea what you meant in your response on Carolyn Ruth Nides, now Fink that I posted. Sorry…..What are you trying to say?
Which one Alfy ?
you said “no nides alf;” then proceeded with something about cincinnati medical services and an address. you had another post . “not carolyn ruth nides , and another person with an address.
Alf, I always think he looks like Shirley Graham DuBois.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah_Muhammad
Wondering here.
Elijah ?
Chesimard (aka Assata Shakur) has an American attorney, Soffiyah Elijah, who serves as Deputy Director of the Criminal Justice Institute at Harvard Law School. Her bio says, “She has represented numerous political prisoners and social activists over the past 18 years. And, her travels to Cuba over the past 13 years have enabled her to conduct extensive research on the country’s legal system, with a focus on its approach to criminal justice issues.” Elijah also represented the recently deceased communist terrorist Marilyn Buck.
Harvard;
Soffiyah Elijah on Marilyn Buck
Walter Turner, host of KPFA’s “Africa Today,” broadcast this interview June 7, 2010. Prof. Jill Soffiyah Elijah is on the faculty of Harvard Law School and has been …
http://www.marilynbuck.com/Soffiyah_Elijah_interview.html
http://reocities.com/CollegePark/grounds/2058/noresponse.html
renee, I don’t know if I’ve shown you this…I had the darndest time relocationg it. Remember we had found the only Carolyn Ruth Nides in the universe……only now she is this person……..with an address……which doesn’t go to her.just thought you might want to save it for future .
And you say it is not Carolyn Alfy ?
Teri Nessanbaum Davis 28 Nevelle St. New Shrewsburg NJ 07724
unknown
Carolyn Nides Fink 1105 Braton Cincinnati OH 45215
513-381-0044 unknown
I wonder what drugs Barky is on not to know what state he’s in. Or maybe he just doesn’t know the states and one seems the same as the other, I guess.
Linda Sue Evans
Born May 11, 1947 (1947-05-11) (age 64)
Fort Dodge, Iowa
Other names Linda Evans, Rebecca Ann Morgan, Christine Johnson, and Louise Robinett
Known for SDS, Weatherman, Weather Underground Organization
wiki above
Have you noticed Linda Sue Evans organization for Third World Organizing? I have read of these radical criminal people for years now. But no one has answered my question, so I am assuming I am the only person to hear this recent public announcement about Donna Joan Borup. the piece I posted evidently no one has bothered to read either…by Cliff Kincaid above…..what was going on at the same time of the Osama Bin Laden escapade…….
The Puerto Rican revolutionaries (sorted groups) were very connected to the radicals i.e. M19 and Weather, Cuba , robberies in the U.s.
Wonder how many rads at the time had babies that they gave up that were adopted or taken in by others ,while these people were busy with their causes? Many of these revolutionaries didn’t just start with the 60’s.
Exactly Alfy. We will have soup soon and get into this more.
Soup, crackers, pie and tea are being served across the hall Alf.
Hi Alfy. I read your article by Cliff Kincaid, but I don’t have your background researching these groups, so I am not able to make the connections that you do. Also, FYI, you are correct in that my local news, etc. has not reported the announcement that you mentioned.
Thanks Kathy, hmm no one else heard the broadcast on Borup. Hmmmm….more concern, but not sure yet what this means…something very curious though.
alfy, I wasn’t online since Friday. Just now catching up. I did see your Kincaid article, but no mention of Borup. Her name didn’t ring a bell but what did was the acid throwing issue. That was that airport attack. Not long ago, we were discussing the possibility that Barry was at that demonstration. I found an article about Borup with an FBI age-progressed photo:
From the story http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/index.ssf/2011/08/fbi_ask_for_help_in_finding_do.html
“The FBI has issued an age-progressed photo of Donna Joan Borup, who is wanted for her alleged involvement in a 1981 acid attack on a Port Authority officer.The FBI is asking for the public’s help with finding a woman wanted for her alleged involvement in a 30-year-old domestic terrorism case.
The FBI said Donna Joan Borup, who has family ties to New Jersey and Pennsylvania, allegedly tossed an acidic substance at a Port Authority police officer during an anti-apartheid demonstration on Sept. 26, 1981, at JFK International Airport in New York.
Officer Evan Goodstein was rendered partially blind in the attack.
At the time Borup was a member of the 19th Communist Organization, a Marxist-Leninist Organization that advocated the armed revolution and violent overthrow of the United States government, according to an FBI news release.
Borup was arrested and released on bail pending trial in May 1982, but she failed to show up for her trial. An arrest warrant was issued, but Borup has never been found.
Borup, who is known to have ties to the Philadelphia and Horsham, Pa. areas, is a white female between 5’4″and 5’6’” and approximately 160-170 pounds. She has brown or blue eyes, and uses multiple dates of birth that would put her between 59 and 64 years of age. Borup has used the names Rebecca Ann Morgan, Donna Borup and Donna Austopchuk as aliases.
“Borup has been on the run for too long and deserves to be brought to justice for her alleged attack against a law enforcement officer. We’re asking the public to look at these photos and to contact the FBI if they recognize Borup,” said Supervisory Special Agent Tim Flannelly in a news release.
The FBI asks anyone with information to call 212-384-1000 immediately. Tipsters may remain anonymous.”
The story is from last August.
That’s from this story, also from August:
http://www.policemag.com/Channel/Patrol/News/2011/08/29/FBI-Still-Seeking-Suspect-In-Acid-Attack.aspx
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=64962
An in depth story with more photos of her. Not many biographical details. Some. She’s an artist, allegedly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_19th_Communist_Organization
Same Alf ?
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/dt/donna-joan-borup
Aliases:
Rebecca Ann Morgan, Donna Borup, Donna Austopchuk
DESCRIPTION
Date(s) of Birth Used: August 5, 1952;
March 5, 1947;
April 10, 1950
Place of Birth: South Amboy, New Jersey
Height: 5’4″ to 5’6″
Weight: 160 to 170 pounds
NCIC: W292048338
Occupation: Previously worked in graphic design and silkscreening
Hair: Brown (May be Graying)
Eyes: Brown or Blue
Sex: Female
Race: White
Nationality: American
Scars and Marks: None known
Remarks: Borup has ties to Philadelphia and Horsham, Pennsylvania. She may wear eyeglasses and baggy clothes. Borup is thought to have a photographic memory and is highly intelligent.
CAUTION
Donna Joan Borup is wanted for her alleged participation in the violent disruption of an anti-apartheid demonstration at JFK International Airport in Queens, New York, on September 26, 1981. During the riot, Borup allegedly tossed an acidic substance into the eyes of a Port Authority Police Officer, leaving him partially blind. At the time, Borup was a member of the May 19th Communist Organization, a Marxist-Leninist organization which advocated the armed revolution and violent overthrow of the United States Government. Borup, along with some accomplices, was arrested and released on bail pending trial in May of 1982.
On May 20, 1982, an arrest warrant was issued for Borup after she failed to appear for her trial on a Queens County indictment which charged her with riot in the first degree and assault in the first degree. On September 14, 1982, a federal arrest warrant was issued for Borup in the Eastern District of New York and she was charged with unlawful flight to avoid prosecution.
SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ARMED AND DANGEROUSIf you have any information concerning this person, please contact your local FBI office or the nearest American Embassy or Consulate.
Field Office: New York
http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/the_intelligencer_news/fbi-seeks-fugitive-from-with-horsham-ties/article_eee6866c-d0a7-11e0-b56c-0019bb30f31a.html
That article says she has a sister in Horsham. (Appropriately named town?)
“Donna Joan Borup
Donna Joan Borup is wanted for her alleged participation in the violent disruption of an anti-apartheid demonstration at JFK International Airport in Queens, New York, on September 26, 1981. During the riot, Borup allegedly tossed an acidic substance into the eyes of a Port Authority Police Officer, leaving him partially blind. At the time, Borup was a member of the May 19th Communist Organization, a Marxist-Leninist organization which advocated the armed revolution and violent overthrow of the United States Government. Borup, along with some accomplices, was arrested and released on bail pending trial in May of 1982. On May 20, 1982, an arrest warrant was issued for Borup after she failed to appear for her trial on a Queens County indictment which charged her with riot in the first degree and assault in the first degree. On September 14, 1982, a federal arrest warrant was issued for Borup in the Eastern District of New York and she was charged with unlawful flight to avoid prosecution.Borup has ties to Philadelphia and Horsham, Pennsylvania. She may wear eyeglasses and baggy clothes. Borup is thought to have a photographic memory and is highly intelligent.” http://www.mugshots.com/FBI-Most-Wanted/Donna-Joan-Borup.html
So would be an associate of the mysterious Eva Rosahn.
http://ny.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.19830708_0000080.ENY.htm/qx
“July 8, 1983
REMY BIZIEN, Plaintiff
v.
THE PORT AUTHORITY OF THE STATES OF NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY, BRITISH AIRWAYS and IBI SECURITYSERVICES, INC., Defendants; EVAN GOODSTEIN and LORRAINE GOODSTEIN, Plaintiffs v. BRITISH AIRWAYS and IBI SECURITY SERVICES, INC., Defendants; BRITISH AIRWAYS, Plaintiff v. THE PORT AUTHORITY OF NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY, Defendants
The opinion of the court was delivered by: MCLAUGHLIN
OPINION AND ORDER
McLAUGHLIN, District Judge:
On September 26, 1981, a group of protesters gathered at the British Airways Terminal at Kennedy Airport to demonstrate against the South African Rugby Team known as the “Springboks.” The protesters mistakenly believed that the soccer team was scheduled to return to South Africa that day.
A significant force of New York Port Authority Police was on hand when the protesters, who had until then been peaceful, broke from a lounge area and bolted for the British Airways gate. In the ensuing melee one of the protesters, Donna Borup, now a fugitive, hurled a caustic solution at Evan Goodstein, a Port Authority policeman who was trying to handcuff her. The solution splattered Goodstein in the face, and some of it also hit Remy Bizien, an employee of South African Airways, who had intervened in the fracas to subdue another demonstrator.
Both victims brought separate personal injury actions that were later consolidated. The defendants are the Port Authority of the States of New York and New Jersey (hereinafter the “Port Authority”), British Airways, and the IBI Security Service, Inc. (hereinafter “IBI”). After a bench trial, I find for the defendants. …
THE INCIDENT
During September 1981, a South African rugby team, commonly known as the “Springboks”, was touring the United States. Wherever it went, the team attracted noisy attention because of the political turmoil in South Africa. The team was scheduled to return to South Africa during the latter part of September, 1981 on a South African Airways flight scheduled to depart from the British Airways Terminal.
On September 26, 1981, Leonard J. Levy, British Airways’ senior security officer on duty (and a retired New York City detective), received information sometime between 2:00 P.M. and 3:00 P.M. that a demonstration might occur at the terminal…. The Port Authority dispatched nineteen (19) police officers, including both plain clothes and uniformed officers. When the police arrived at the British Airways Terminal, British Airways Security had identified a group — approximately 40 to 50 in number — of non-passengers seated in the lounge on the departure level of the British Airways Terminal. The group was comprised predominantly of females, and included many small children. The group was seated in a public, unrestricted area of the lounge, and was quiet and orderly. … Lieutenant Brown spoke with a woman carrying a bullhorn and offered her a location outside the terminal in which to demonstrate. The offer was refused. … Sometime during the early evening, but after the Port Authority Police had arrived and taken control of the scene, the group of demonstrators began to assemble and walk past the base of the north ramp. This group began to chant various slogans directed against the South African government and its policies. Then, suddenly, abruptly, and without any warning, a small group of persons, estimated at between three to eight in number, broke from the main group and raced up the north ramp. British Airways Security officers and Port Authority police attempted to restrain these persons and were successful in preventing them from reaching the passengers and aircraft in the gate area.
Plaintiff, Remy Bizien, who was wearing his British Airways uniform, happened to be on the ramp at the time. He saw one male, later identified as Timothy Blunk, running up the ramp toward the gate. Bizien tried to stop Blunk while Officer Goodstein was scuffling with a female, subsequently identified as Donna Borup. Borup threw a caustic solution in their direction, and both Bizien and Goodstein were splattered with it. They now sue for their injuries.
Everyone who charged the ramp and fought with the police was arrested. Each was subsequently indicted on various criminal charges, and with the exception of Donna Borup, each was convicted in the courts of the State of New York and was sentenced to a prison term. Donna Borup, who was identified as the demonstrator who threw the liquid at Evan Goodstein and Remy Bizien, forfeited her $10,000 bail; and there is a warrant for her arrest as a fugitive from justice.“
“Blunk’s wife, Sylvia Baraldini, 37, was acquitted in 1983 of charges she planned and participated in the Brink’s holdup. She was convicted of racketeering charges in connection with Chesimard’s jailbreak and given a maximum sentence of 40 years in federal prison.
Blunk, a native of Princeton, N.J., and the son of a minister, served a nine-month sentence in 1982 in connection with the ”Springbok incident” in which a New York port authority police officer was blinded by acid thrown by a demonstrator. The demonstration was staged against the Springbok rugby team of South Africa.
Blunk is also suspected of being an associate of radical fugitive Donna Borup, 32, of South Amboy, N.J., who is being sought on a 1982 federal warrant in connection with an assault on a New York police officer.
Rosenberg and Blunk, both of New York City, were represented in Camden federal court yesterday by attorney Susan Tipograph, of New York. Blunk’s wife reportedly once worked as a legal assistant to Tipograph, who represented one of the Brink’s defendants. Tipograph also represented Blunk in the Springbok incident.
The May 19th Communist Organization went public in 1981 with a statement to the press, according to the FBI. The group said it was committed to building a revolutionary movement that was ”part of the world-wide struggle to defeat U.S. imperialism,” an FBI spokesman said. The group said it aligned itself with other extremist organizations: the Black Liberation Army, the Puerto Rican Independence Movement, the Struggle of Native American Nations for Sovereignty and the Mexican-Chicano People for Liberation.
At a public meeting in 1983, the May 19th Communist Organization said it also supported the Republic of New Afrika (RNA), the Fuerzas Armadas de Liberacion Nacional Puertorriquena (FLAN), and the people jailed in the Brink’s case.
Also in 1983, the group said it was organizing ”white people within the (U.S.) empire committed to the development of armed struggle to win the liberation of oppressed nations and to bring about socialism,” the FBI spokesman said.
Credit: ANN W. O’NEILL, Daily News Staff Writer
Philadelphia Newspapers Inc. Dec 1, 1984″
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That article is available online, if you have access to a library database. It’s text only; not images of the actual article.
Deleted upon request.
My guess is that they’re looking for her to shut her up. Was Barry at that demonstration? Gee, sounds like the same tactics the Poopstockers use.
In a related development. Did you see that the prosecutor dropped the death penalty case against Mumia? He’s getting life in prison instead of the death penalty. The victim’s family is disappointed. Watch for that pardon from Barry via Holder. It’s coming. No doubt about it. Wait for it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2118540/posts
A lot that you may know but may not know already. About that acid attack. And Barry at (or not at) Columbia.
Back to Leza’s Weather Underground post. This comment mentions Eva Rosahn. https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/07/15/hows-the-weather-above-ground-these-days/comment-page-5/#comment-60042
Those arrested for throwing the acid:
Timothy Blunk (misspelled as “Blonk”)
Donna Borup
Margot Pelletier
Mary Patten (misspelled as “Marcy”)
Eve Rosahn
Now a link: http://emperors-clothes.com/dream.htm
Eve owned the getaway car.
Anthony Blunt – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Many sources suggest that Blunt remained at Cambridge and served as a … He has also admitted to passing details of German spy rings, operating in the Soviet …
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Blunt
Timothy Blunk
This goes to what I am doing across the hall in the soup kitchen;
Cambridge Five – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Cambridge Five was a ring of spies, recruited in part by Russian talent spotter Arnold Deutsch in the United Kingdom, who passed information to the Soviet Union during World War II and at least into the early 1950s. Four members of the ring have been identified: Kim Philby (cryptonym: Stanley), Donald Duart Maclean (cryptonym: Homer), Guy Burgess (cryptonym: Hicks) and Anthony Blunt (cryptonym: Johnson); jointly they are known as the Cambridge Four.
Several people have been suspected of being the “fifth man” of the group; John Cairncross (cryptonym: Liszt) was identified as such by Oleg Gordievsky, though many others have also been accused of membership in the Cambridge ring.
The term “Cambridge” in the name Cambridge Five refers to the conversion of the group to communism during their education at Cambridge University in the 1930s. The four known members all attended the university, as did the alleged fifth man, Cairncross. Debate surrounds the exact timing of their recruitment by Soviet intelligence; Anthony Blunt claimed that they were not recruited as agents until they had graduated. Blunt, a Fellow of Trinity College, was several years older than Burgess, Maclean, and Philby; he acted as a talent-spotter and recruiter.
Both Blunt and Burgess were members of the Apostles, an exclusive and prestigious society based at Trinity and King’s Colleges. John Cairncross, long suspected of having been the ‘Fifth Man’, and formally identified as a Soviet agent in 1990, was also an Apostle.
Other Apostles accused of having spied for the Soviets include Michael Whitney Straight, Victor Rothschild, research fellow Lewis Daly and Guy Liddell
Austopchuk ?
BORUP?
FBI — DONNA JOAN BORUP
Aliases:
Rebecca Ann Morgan, Donna Borup, Donna Austopchuk
MORGAN**
Soundex Code for BORUP = B610
Other surnames sharing this Soundex Code:
BARBEE | BARIBEAU | BEARUP | BORUFF | BROPHY | BRUFFEY | BURBEY |
Truly, you cannot make this stuff up.
BARIBEAU
Bari?
Beau ?
You are kidding me.
BOUDIN too Maybe,huh? Some of the alias names of these people are shared names, mixes of stolen names, mentors, names of historical activist. Notice I said shared names too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assata_Shakur
Assata Olugbala Shakur (born July 16, 1947[1] as JoAnne Deborah Byron, married name Chesimard[2]) is an African-American activist and escaped convict who was a member of the Black Panther Party (BPP) and Black Liberation Army (BLA). Between 1971 and 1973, Shakur was accused of several crimes and made the subject of a multi-state manhunt.[3][4]
In May 1973 Shakur was involved in a shootout on the New Jersey Turnpike, during which New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster and BLA member Zayd Malik Shakur were killed and Shakur and Trooper James Harper were wounded.[5] Between 1973 and 1977, Shakur was indicted in relation to six other alleged criminal incidents—charged with murder, attempted murder, armed robbery, bank robbery, and kidnapping—resulting in three acquittals and three dismissals. In 1977, she was convicted of the first-degree murder of Foerster and of seven other felonies related to the shootout.[6]
Shakur was then incarcerated in several prisons, where her treatment drew criticism from some human rights groups. She escaped from prison in 1979 and has been living in Cuba in political asylum since 1984. Since May 2, 2005, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has classified her as a “domestic terrorist” and offered a $1 million reward for assistance in her capture. Attempts to extradite her have resulted in letters to the Pope and a Congressional resolution. Shakur is the step-aunt of the deceased hip hop icon Tupac Shakur (the sister of his stepfather, Mutulu Shakur). Her life has been portrayed in literature, film and song.
Tupac Shakur – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Birth name Lesane Parish Crooks[citation needed]
Also known as 2Pac, Pac, Makaveli
Born June 16, 1971(1971-06-16)
East Harlem, New York City
Origin Oakland, California, U.S.
Died September 13, 1996(1996-09-13) (aged 25)
Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S.
Genres Hip hop
Occupations Rapper, actor, record producer, poet, screenwriter, activist, writer
Years active 1988–1996 (rapping)
1990–1996 (acting)
Labels Interscope, Death Row, Amaru
Associated acts Outlawz, Johnny “J”, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Digital Underground, Richie Rich, K-Ci & JoJo, Dave Hollister, Dr. Dre, Tha Dogg Pound, Boot Camp Clik, Nate Dogg, Young Noble
Young Noble – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rufus Cooper III (born March 21, 1978), also known by his stage name Young Noble, is an American rapper who worked with the group Outlawz[1] in 1996.
Noble appeared on Shakur’s album The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory on the songs “Bomb First (My Second Reply)”, “Hail Mary”, “Life of an Outlaw”, “White Man’z World” and “Just Like Daddy”.
On December 21, 1999, Shakur’s album Still I Rise was released which consisted of material recorded with 2Pac and one solo song. Noble replaced Fatal’s vocals on the songs.
NOTE*WILLIAMS*
He currently serves as Assistant Minister of Music for New Direction Christian Church satellite location in Collierville, Tennessee.
Dave has also reunited with his former group Blackstreet and will be performing with them on their upcoming reunion tour along with Guy Blackstreet’s founder Teddy Riley’s other group. In addition to Riley Blackstreet members Chauncey Hannibal, Mark Middleton, and Eric Williams will be a part of the reunion. Guy members in addition to Riley will include brothers Aaron Hall and Damion Hall. Teddy Riley has decided to only focus on Blackstreet and Mark Middleton and Eric Williams are no longer a part of the reunion. Blackstreet’s lineup has tweeked again and now Mark Middleton & Eric Williams are back along with Teddy Riley and Dave Hollister. Chauncey Hannibal was there but is no longer with the group anymore as he’s pursuing a solo career.
Teddy Riley, Dave Hollister, Mark Middleton, and Eric Williams will start touring in 2011.
That WILLIAMS name again…
Renee | December 10, 2011 at 12:53 pm |
NOTE*WILLIAMS*
He currently serves as Assistant Minister of Music for New Direction Christian Church satellite location in Collierville, Tennessee.
Dave has also reunited with his former group Blackstreet and will be performing with them on their upcoming reunion tour along with Guy Blackstreet’s founder Teddy Riley’s other group. In addition to Riley Blackstreet members Chauncey Hannibal, Mark Middleton, and Eric Williams will be a part of the reunion. Guy members in addition to Riley will include brothers Aaron Hall and Damion Hall. Teddy Riley has decided to only focus on Blackstreet and Mark Middleton and Eric Williams are no longer a part of the reunion. Blackstreet’s lineup has tweeked again and now Mark Middleton & Eric Williams are back along with Teddy Riley and Dave Hollister. Chauncey Hannibal was there but is no longer with the group anymore as he’s pursuing a solo career.
Teddy Riley, Dave Hollister, Mark Middleton, and Eric Williams will start touring in 2011.
NOTE THIS CONNECTION*
NOTE*
The House Of Soup And Crackers | Wtpotus Research Blog Renee | December 10, 2011 at 9:19 am | Reply
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Sugar
Renee | December 10, 2011 at 9:20 am | Reply
Imperial Sugar (NASDAQ: IPSU) is a major U.S. sugar producer and marketer based in Sugar Land, Texas, with sugar refinery operations in California, Georgia, and Louisiana.
The company has, since its inception, been headquartered in Sugar Land; the city itself is named for the company and the company’s crown logo is featured in the city’s seal. The company was founded in 1843 by Samuel May Williams and passed through a series of owners until its purchase in 1907 the I. H. Kempner family of Galveston. The company was later renamed the Imperial Sugar Company, in an effort to emphasize quality.[2] Up until 1988 the company had only one plant, at its original location in Texas, when they purchased the Holly Sugar Corporation—a sugar beet processor headquartered in Colorado Springs. Since that initial acquisition the company has made several more that effectively doubled the corporation’s size each time.
On January 17, 2001, the company filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, attributing its problems to lower sales for refined sugar as well as higher energy costs. Then on August 29, 2001, the company emerged from Chapter 11 and has since turned its focus inward as it downsizes its operations. In 2003, Imperial won the Wharton Infosys Business Transformation Award for their innovative use of web technology to help turn around their business. The company no longer refines sugar at its original plant in Sugar Land (the facility was closed in 2003) but their corporate headquarters are still located in its founding city.
On December 19, 2010, two buildings of the Sugar Land factory were demolished by explosion demolition to spread the development of the property for residences, business properties and park land.[3][4]
In 2010, Imperial contributed its aging nineteenth-century Gramercy, Louisiana refinery to Louisiana Sugar Refiners, LLC (LSR) in exchange for a one-third interest in the new company.[5] LSR commenced operations on January 1, 2011. LSR now operates a state-of-the-art sugar refinery on the Gramercy, Louisiana site. Imperial will continue to operate a small-bag processing facility at Gramercy.
Renee | December 10, 2011 at 9:21 am | Reply
NOTE****
founded in 1843 by Samuel May Williams
***WILLIAMS***
Wasn’t there a Byron associated with one of those produced birth certificates?
That las post looks out of place, I’m referring to Chesimards other name,Byron. Was it Bruce or a someone Byron that somebody found to be associatd with the produced or reproduced birth certificate ,that worked in an office in the whited house?
Not sure Alfy.
Like Byron Nelson golf ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground
Terrorist Organization Profile – START – National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism During 1985 and 1986, all known members of May 19th were arrested, with the exception of Elizabeth Duke.
FBI — ELIZABETH ANNA DUKE
Unlawful Possession of United States Identification; Conspiracy; Unlawful Storage of Explosives; Unlawful Possession of Firearms and Destructive Devices; …
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/dt/elizabeth-anna-duke
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=26627&refresh=1
There are tabs that show more about her case, at the top.
ELIZABETH ANNA DUKE
Betty Ann Duke, Elizabeth Ann Duke, Betty Weir, “Betty Ann”. DESCRIPTION. Date(s) of Birth Used: November 25, 1940;. April 20, 1941. Place of Birth: Beeville …
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/dt/elizabeth-anna-duke/@@poster.pdf
Elizabeth Ann Duke – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Elizabeth Anna Duke (born November 25, 1940) is a former teacher and militant fugitive best known for her involvement with a number of political organizations, …
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Ann_Duke
She’s a “philanthorpist”, too. Isn’t that special?
Elizabeth A. Duke – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Elizabeth A. Duke (born July 23, 1952) is a member of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System of the United States. She was confirmed by the …
Early life and education – Professional career – Honors, activities – References
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_A._Duke
Doris Duke – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Doris Duke (November 22, 1912 – October 28, 1993) was an American heiress, horticulturalist, art collector, and philanthropist. …
Family and early life – Adult life – Homes – Marriages and affairs
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Duke
NOTE* Rubirosa*
Patty Duke – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Duke was born Anna Marie Duke in Elmhurst, Queens, New York, the daughter of Frances (née McMahon), a cashier, and John Patrick Duke, a handyman and cab driver.[2][3][page needed] Her father was Irish American and her maternal grandmother was German.[3][page needed]
Duke and her older brother Raymond experienced a childhood of hard times. Her father was an alcoholic, and her mother suffered from clinical depression and was prone to violence. When Duke was 6, her mother threw her father out; when she was 8, her mother turned Duke’s care over to John and Ethel Ross, who became her managers. The Rosses recognized her talent and promoted her as a child actress.[4]
The Rosses’ methods were often unscrupulous and exploitive; they consistently billed Duke as two years younger than she was, and padded her resume with some false credits.[5] It was Ethel Ross who gave the sweeping name-change order, “Anna Marie is dead, you are Patty now,” hoping the change in her first name would allow her to duplicate the success of child actress Patty McCormack.[6] This act would have painful repercussions for Duke in the decades to come.
NOTE* ROSS*
McMahon * NOTE***
Goes to Mahoney and Canfield Mines.
Katherine Dunham Papers, 1919-1968 | Southern Illinois …
Title: Katherine Dunham Papers, 1919-1968 Add to your cart. View associated … Duke, Doris, 1912-1993–Correspondence … Katherine Dunham Company. …
archives.lib.siu.edu/index.php?p=collections/controlcard&id=6
katherine Dunham had an adopted daughter also, adopted at around the age 2 or 3. She is a physicist in France/Europe somewhere I believe. Physicist, you know, like Mark>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Dunham
Doris Duke and Porfirio Rubirosa – ShagTree
Doris Duke and Porfirio Rubirosa Relationship, Pictures, Videos … “On this page we invite you to read about doris duke and porfirio rubirosa relationship and to …
shagtree.com/relationships/doris-duke-dated-porfirio-rubirosa
Patricia Kennedy and Porfirio Rubirosa – ShagTree
Veronica Lake. Jayne Mansfield. Peggy Joyce. Doris Duke. Eartha Kitt. Vikki Dougan. Princess Soraya. Amalia Rodrigues. Brenda Frazier. Katherine Dunham …
shagtree.com/relationships/patricia-kennedy-dated-porfir…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Soraya_of_Iran
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duc_de_La_Rochefoucauld
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri,_comte_de_Paris,_duc_de_France
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Isabelle_of_Orl%C3%A9ans-Braganza
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis,_Duke_of_Nemours
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ileana_Manos
Obama’s Pseudo-Neo-Marxism | We the People of the United States
Renee | December 9, 2011 at 12:17 am | Reply
Then we have Maya
Dohrn ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Deren
Renee | December 9, 2011 at 12:20 am | Reply
Maya takes us back to the Kraft- oops craft.
Coven
Like Kovenhoven-Kowenhoven
Haven. Cowen-Kohen-Cohen again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Vodou
The drone dog n pony show
from Debka
Nuclear knowhow, S300 are Iran’s price for Russian, Chinese access to US drone
DEBKAfile Exclusive Analysis December 11, 2011, 6:37 PM
Russian air defense S-300 missile
Iran is driving a hard bargain for granting Russian and Chinese teams access to the US stealth drone RQ-170 it captured undamaged last week. debkafile reports: The price, they were told, includes advanced nuclear and missile technology, especially systems using solid fuel, the last word on centrifuges for enriching uranium and the S-300PMU-1 air defense system, which Moscow has consistently refused to sell Tehran. Israel’s prime minister sent foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman to Moscow to try and stop the deal.
snip
If Moscow brought it in, why the need for ransom?
Did Obama bring it in, to achieve all of the ransom demands
Am I saying Obama wants to engineer a nuclear attack on our country?
Go figure it
Why Osawatomie?
Pat Dollard locates it:
http://patdollard.com/2011/12/obamas-class-warfare-speech-in-small-kansas-town-not-a-coincidence-name-of-weather-underground-publication/
Obama’s Class Warfare Speech in Small Kansas Town Not a Coincidence – Name of Weather Underground Publication
December 11th, 2011 (9) Posted By Toro520.
New Zeal:
Why would Barack Obama choose to give a controversial speech attacking American capitalism in Osawatomie, Kansas?
Hang on? Where have I heard that name before? Osawatomie? ….back in the ’70s? Weather Underground terrorists… Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn. Didn’t Obama used to hang out with those guys?
I remember! Osawatomie was the publication of the Weather Underground!
Look how they open this story. Isn’t this “violent rhetoric?” Is that how an objective, unbiased news story would be written? http://news.yahoo.com/high-court-look-state-immigration-laws-150929878.html
“WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court agreed Monday to rule on Arizona’s controversial law targeting illegal immigrants, setting the stage for an election-year decision on an issue that is already shaping presidential politics.
The justices said they will review a federal appeals court ruling that blocked several tough provisions in the Arizona law. One of those requires that police, while enforcing other laws, question a person’s immigration status if officers suspect he is in the country illegally.
The Obama administration challenged the Arizona law by arguing that regulating immigration is the job of the federal government, not states. Similar laws in Alabama, South Carolina and Utah also are facing administration lawsuits. Private groups are suing over immigration measures adopted in Georgia and Indiana.
The court now has three politically charged cases on its election-year calendar. The other two are President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul and new electoral maps for Texas’ legislature and congressional delegation.
Justice Elena Kagan will not take part in the Arizona case, presumably because of her work on the issue when she served in the Justice Department.
Arguments probably will take place in late April, which would give the court roughly two months to decide the case.”
TARGETING illegal aliens? (They’re ALIENS, they’re NOT immigrants.) Is this writer part of the problem? Like they said Sarah Palin was when somebody in her campaign made a map that put something that conceivably looked like targets on a map? Is this writer adding to the violent atmosphere in the USA that caused Gabby Giffords to be shot?
“One Step back, two steps forward” — Lenin
That is the Marxist dialectic Obama applied to his plans to turn America into a Cuban “Paradise”. That’s why not much has surfaced from his hidden agenda 2008-2012 except for the social medicine Obamacare. If he gets elected in 2012 and with the wave of poverty ridden immigrants he may well have the votes if enough Americans stay confused that he is good for America (remember Roosevelt, another golden spoon socialist and admirer of Stalin(*), got re-elected three times in spite of the economy)
(*) when reminded of the millions of opposition deaths in Soviet concentration camps he shrugged it off that we cannot interfere in their goverments right of removal of anti-social elements. So what was he doing in Germany?