Cash Walking

Renee Copyright 2011

Once upon a time there was a boy, his name was Cash Walker. He was joined one day for a waltz with his older brother. His brother’s name was Gun Runner. The older brother Gun Runner could run, very fast and furiously.

And they danced, and they walked, and they danced, and they ran…so far away.

Where did they get their music ?

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187 responses to “Cash Walking

    • Holder started off trying to paint this investigation as only important because it is an election year. How pathetic. Watching as Holder does a great figure 8 as his skating continues. Amazingly, the Democrats did a thorough investigation and found no one to prosecute. Gotta love it when the democrats police their own. Of course, they would find nothing out of order since they live and work in their own corrupt world. One has to wonder what they really consider a crime when a democrat is involved.

      • Someone said on radio this morning that Holder will likely say what he said before, so they were right. It’s election year! Did he pull the race card out of his sleeve yet?

  1. did anybody just catch that?…. What does the judge mean when he says ” hes’ been in that hot seat more than you, …..for real” or something similar….

    Is this not a “real” investigation?… is this court today just for show for us or something?

  2. 5 minute break. So far those I have heard have been;
    Break over

  3. Just lost the stream.

  4. Holder walked into a DOJ agency that was highly politicized and he has changed that! I’d say. If it was politicized in his opinion, it was probably an ethical agency. He touts how well he has done and he wants credit.

    I swear that the democrats are scripted and they are all backing up Holder. Whoever Mr. Clay is..accusing the gavel of being a political instrument of the republicans and they are without evidence? Of course, this is now blamed on the Bush administration. This is a politically motivated attack.

    • In the Obamanation, up means down, good means bad, bad means good, ‘Republicans are racist’ means it’s really DemocRATS who are, Holder saying he’s not a crook means he is, etc.

  5. Final group;

  6. Norton, she mentions rights ? Really…
    Clay claims conspiracy-political instrument ? Please, I am gagging here…
    Gowdy was very good as well as Kelly with Transparancy ? ROTFL !
    He also got points with this part that was something like ” You are the chief attorney of the USA and you did not know ?

    It was very professional, and very divided. I liked it.

  7. This was being reported while the testimony of Holder was going on!

    From DC email – The Daily Caller is now reporting that “at least two DOJ prosecutors accepted cash bribes from allegedly corrupt finance executives… but were never arrested or prosecuted.” The DC then says that Holder “is aware prosecutors and elected officials were bribed and otherwise compromised, but has not held anyone accountable.”

    So in addition to the botched “Fast and Furious” gun running gambit that resulted in hundreds of deaths including a U.S. Border agent, now we have Holder ignoring episodes of bribery in his own department!

    Bribery, compromised officials leave indicted financial-crime suspects free from prosecution under Holder’s DOJ
    By Matthew Boyle Published: 10:16 PM 02/01/2012 | Updated: 12:34 PM 02/02/2012

    A U.S. Justice Department source has told The Daily Caller that at least two DOJ prosecutors accepted cash bribes from allegedly corrupt finance executives who were indicted under court seal within the past 13 months, but never arrested or prosecuted.

    The sitting governor of the U.S. Virgin Islands, his attorney general and an unspecified number of Virgin Islands legislators also accepted bribes, the source said, adding that U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder is aware prosecutors and elected officials were bribed and otherwise compromised, but has not held anyone accountable.

    The bribed officials, an attorney with knowledge of the investigation told TheDC, remain on the taxpayers’ payroll at the Justice Department without any accountability. The DOJ source said Holder does not want to admit public officials accepted bribes while under his leadership.
    TheDC is withholding the name of the source, a knowledgeable government official who served on the Justice Department’s arrest team and was involved in the investigation, in order to prevent career retaliation from political figures in the Obama administration.

  8. Holder’s body language today was not looking good for him. Slouching shoulders and alot of bumbling for answers. He looked very sad and upset.

  9. Miri, Bridgette, Where is an ACORN post to add this to also;
    Weaving Change | Wtpotus Research Blog Renee | February 5, 2012 at 8:55 am | Reply
    DOJ second release of Project Vote/Estelle Rogers documents …

    Dec 14, 2011 … DOJ second release of Project Vote/Estelle Rogers documents – October 19, 2011. Obtained by Judicial Watch October 19, 2011 through FOIA …

    Renee | February 5, 2012 at 8:56 am | Reply

  10. The gift that keeps on giving….;
    Bridgette Submitted on 2012/02/08 at 5:15 pm

  11. Obama launched F&F ?

    • Check out this video on YouTube:

      Project Gun Runner (Fast and Furious) was launched under the orders of President Barack Obama with the knowledge of Attorney General Eric Holder. Deputy Attorney General David Ogden announced the Obama Administration’s new and aggressive ‘comprehensive plan’ on March, 24, 2009. The plan was aimed at disrupting gun trafficking between the United States and Mexico.
      Full C-SPAN Video Link 3-24-2009
      Fair Use: This video has been posted for educational non-profit purposes only.
      Tags Gunrunner Project Gun Runner BATF ATF Bureau Alcohol tobacco and firearms DEA DOJ Department of Justice Attorney General Eric Holder President Barack Obama Mexico Gun Walker GunWalker Drugs Cartels Fast and Furious Gun Tracing Economic stimulus funds recovery act reinvestment Deputy attorney general david ogden

  12. I have double posted the info above on Guns and no roses also because I have a funny feeling that Cash Walking is going to take on a new life of it’s own soon. Very soon. It probably needs to be followed with a joint post on Holder by the three of us. Got time ? We probably need to grab the best info from the two of them and continue from there.

    • Go ahead Bridgette and leave the comments open on both of these, just in case. I do think though that we need a new post on Holder because it is so big.
      I will also back up the new post with a Mexico thread for research as my work there is splitting into 2 posts too.
      So much info flooding in now…


    “In November, the president signed the Justice Department appropriations bill, which included language from Sen. John Cornyn, Texas Republican, prohibiting federal agencies from facilitating the transfer of an operable firearm to an individual known or suspected to be in a drug cartel, unless they monitor the weapon at all times.

    Now Mr. Obama is proposing to remove that provision from the 2013 spending bill, thus making it legal to revive gun-walking operations in the future. The White House justification is merely that the prohibition is “not necessary.””

  14. Breitbart is being touted at Free Republic and Daily Caller for this brilliant “news” flash:

    Fast and Furious happened, Breitbart explained, “for the purposes of creating a narrative that they could use in America to try and thwart our Second Amendment constitutional rights. I don’t think the most sinister screenwriter could imagine a government that would abide by that, let alone the media to cover that up.””

    Read more:

    To which I say, tongue in cheek, “WHO KNEW?”


      Sources cited earlier this month by Mike Vanderboegh, a gun-rights activist and blogger whose work was instrumental in exposing the federal gun trafficking scandal, stated that House Speaker John Boehner planned to make a deal with the Obama administration. The alleged agreement would have reportedly allowed a few lower-ranking DOJ figures to take the fall while top officials got away scot-free — essentially allowing everyone to save face.

      The news sparked an instant public outcry. A spokesman for Rep. Boehner, however, disputed the claims. He told The New American that the reports were false and that the Speaker fully supported Rep. Issa and the Fast and Furious investigation.

      Families of the Fast and Furious victims are charging ahead, too. And Rep. Issa and even Democrats on the Oversight Committee seem dedicated to finding out what exactly was going on so responsible officials can be held accountable for the blood-drenched fiasco.

      The committee is determined to know what happened in Operation Fast and Furious and how the Justice Department responded when it was publicly confronted with evidence of reckless conduct after Agent Terry’s death,” Rep. Issa said. “I want to make it clear that Congress will not give up until … accountability has been achieved.”

      Numerous law-enforcement experts have called for a special prosecutor to investigate and prosecute federal officials involved in Fast and Furious. The state of Arizona, meanwhile, is conducting its own independent investigation into the deadly scheme.

      Whether those responsible for the operation will actually be held accountable for their criminal actions remains to be seen — but as the body count continues to rise, the outcry is still growing as well. And the victims’ families and advocates for honest government have vowed to keep the pressure on until justice is finally served.”

  15. LISTEN to all VERY well again…

  16. Anyone know this connection ?
    A Traveling Jones | Wtpotus Research Blog Renee | March 1, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Reply

    Renee | March 1, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Reply
    Sharon Malone, Eric Holder’s wife, to appear in PBS special …

    Feb 10, 2012 … Wife of Eric Holder, the nation’s first black attorney general. Sister of the late Vivian Malone Jones, the first African American to graduate from …

  17. How many do we need to call for an impeachment? The guy isn’t going to resign on his own! Fast and Furious isn’t the only crime against the US!

    Rep. Lamborn demands Holder’s resignation, calling Fast and Furious ‘an outrage’
    3:49 PM 04/12/2012

    Colorado Republican Rep. Doug Lamborn joined the scores of lawmakers demanding Attorney General Eric Holder’s resignation over Operation Fast and Furious on Thursday.

    Lamborn, who has already signed Arizona Rep. Paul Gosar’s official House resolution of “no confidence” in Holder, told The Daily Caller that he thinks it’s time for Holder to step aside. “The attorney general has been dishonest with the American people,” Lamborn wrote in an email. “He has contradicted himself repeatedly in congressional testimony. The Fast and Furious Program is an outrage. We deserve better from the nation’s top law enforcement official and Eric Holder should resign immediately.”

    Lamborn is one of 123 members of the House of Representatives who have demanded Holder’s resignation, signed the resolution of “no confidence,” or both. They join three U.S. senators, two sitting governors and presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney in pushing for Holder’s ouster over the gunwalking program.

    • He isn’t going to resign, he is too busy stoking up race wars ya know ? Is
      Sister of the late Vivian Malone Jones helping ?
      JONES…too Many JONES, too little time..

      • That’s part of the reason they stoke the race wars. Then he can claim racism when they go after him for the corruption. I would have liked to see Congress ask for his resignation when he told them to their faces that white people don’t merit protection under Civil Rights or Voting Rights laws. That’s a disqualifier right there. Imagine if John Ashcroft had called white people “my people” when addressing a Congressional committee. Just imagine!

  18. Some Fast and Furious and gun news:

    First, Congress is said to be drawing up contempt charges against Holder.

    “The resolution will accuse Holder and his Justice Department of obstructing the congressional probe into the allegations that the government let thousands of weapons fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels.

    The citation would attempt to force Holder to turn over tens of thousands of pages of documents related to the probe, which has entered its second year.”

    Next, the ATF is trying to get access to gun sales records ILLEGALLY:

    “ATF agents had contacted gun shops in Anchorage for the bound books which contain information on gun buyers. Federal law prohibits federal agents from doing that, and they know it. Gun rights activists across the Northwest are furious.

    The situation has caused an uproar in the firearms community, and Young – a member of the National Rifle Association Board of Directors – is adamant in his two-page letter that he wants answers.” (GOOD LUCK GETTING ANY.)

    ““Despite what the law clearly states, I’ve heard from several Alaska gun shop owners who are being hassled by the ATF,” said Rep. Young. “As I have told the gun shop owners, the ATF has no right to either copy or remove their records and if any attempt is made, they should refuse it.” Over the past 30 years, Congress has consistently passed legislation prohibiting the collection of information from gun dealers that would go towards the creation of a list/database of gun owners. In 2011, that prohibition was made permanent.
    “The ATF has some serious explaining to do,” Rep. Young continued. “Congress has been unequivocal when it comes to gun registries or anything that resembles one – they are against the law.
    “I expect a full and complete response from the ATF in a timely fashion. In the time-being, I will continue do everything in my power to ensure Americans’ Second Amendment rights are not trampled on.””

    Next, more about events leading up to Agent Terry’s murder:

    “Under intense interrogation Miramontes-Varela told agents that he wished to trade his knowledge of cartel activity for government protection. He claimed he wanted a new life for his wife and three children.

    Interestingly, the FBI was not the only federal agency interested in Miramontes-Varela. The ATF had identified the kingpin as a major player in the Fast and Furious scandal and wanted him arrested. It was then that the ATF released a dangerous gun trafficker, Fabian Celis-Acosta, in May of 2010 on the basis of the criminal’s promise that he would help them nab Miramontes-Varela and his brother.

    The Miramontes-Varela brothers had illegally purchased firearms in the amount of $250,000 in the Fast and Furious operation. But that is not their only connection with Fast and Furious.

    Politico reported on March 28, 2012 that the FBI failed to notify the ATF that the Miramontes-Varela brothers were paid government informants.

    Upon hearing the news of the FBI’s deliberate tactic of keeping secret the fact that the Miramontes-Varela brothers were informants, and that Celis-Acosta had been released by the ATF upon the promise that he would help nab the brothers, the family of Brian Terry was livid.”

    • Miri, They gave him until May to produce some paper right ?

      • Yeah. I think so. This seems to be their attempt to make him do it and so then they won’t cite him for contempt. As if he cares. They should do it now and charge him with perjury. What does waiting accomplish? What would anything he produces matter when this is an adminstration known for forgery and tampering with documents? I wouldn’t believe anything they come up with now.

  19. The Justice Department is a total disgrace!

    Government’s answer to “Fast and Furious” records requests:
    Blank pages
    April 27, 2012 Snips

    For more than a year, CBS News has been investigating the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms’ “Fast and Furious” operation and related cases that also employed the controversial tactic of “gunwalking.” With Justice Department officials refusing all interview requests to date, CBS News requested numerous
    public documents through the Freedom of Information Act.

    So far, all of the requests that have been answered have been denied in part or in full.

    This week, we received a partial response to a request made more than a year ago. It asked for communications involving “Project Gunrunner,” the umbrella program for Fast and Furious, from 2010 through April 2011. Specifically, it sought any communications to which any of the following top Justice officials were a party: Attorney General Eric Holder; Lanny Breuer, Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division; Kevin Carwile, chief of the Capital Case Unit; and Deputy Assistant Attorney Generals Bruce Schwarz and Kenneth Blanco.

    The response includes mostly-blank pages. PDF document of the pages sent to CBS News under FOIA re Fast and Furious and perhaps Issa: [Unbelievable!]

  20. This one is also on the Guns And No Roses post;
    Oversight Committee Outlines Case for Contempt over Fast and Furious
    WASHINGTON, D.C. – House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) has distributed a staff briefing paper and draft of the contempt of Congress resolution against Attorney General Eric Holder to Members of the Oversight Committee. The briefing paper explains what happened in Operation Fast and Furious, the hardships faced by the family of fallen Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in getting truthful answers about his death, how agents who blew the whistle on the reckless operation have faced retaliation, and the carnage in Mexico that Fast and Furious has helped fuel.

    “This briefing paper and draft contempt report explains the case, to both Members of the Committee and the American people, for holding Attorney General Holder in contempt of Congress,” said Issa. “In describing the results of the Justice Department’s refusal to cooperate – including the hardships the family of a fallen Border Patrol agent have faced in seeking the truth, and retaliation against agents who blew the whistle on gunwalking – this briefing paper provides the facts, on which decisions will be made.”

    Highlights of the briefing paper include:

    On information sharing failures (p.6):

    “When [firearms trafficking syndicate ringleader] Celis-Acosta informed ATF of the names of the two cartel contacts for whom he had been working, agents quickly came to learn that these two U.S.-based cartel contacts were already known to the Department of Justice … In exchange for one associate’s guilty plea to a minor charge of “Alien in Possession of a Firearm,” both of these cartel associates became FBI informants and were considered essentially unindictable well before Operation Fast and Furious concluded. One ATF official would later say that the discovery that the primary targets of their investigation were not indictable was a “major disappointment.” Adding to the information-sharing failure, DEA had actually provided Celis-Acosta’s cartel connection to ATF in December 2009 in an effort to ensure that ATF’s efforts in Operation Fast and Furious were not duplicative.”

    On the Justice Department’s Failure to Cooperate (p.9):

    “When the Committee issued a subpoena to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder on October 12, 2011, for Justice Department documents, the Committee specified 22 categories of documents it required the Department to produce. Department representatives specifically confirmed their understanding of each category. To date, the Department has not produced any responsive documents for 12 of the 22 categories. The Department has not completely fulfilled any of the 10 categories for which documents have been produced. For over a year, the Department has issued false denials, given answers intended to misdirect investigators, sought to intimidate witnesses, unlawfully withheld subpoenaed documents, and waited to be confronted with indisputable evidence before acknowledging uncomfortable facts.”

    On the struggle of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s family to get the truth (p. 11):

    “While the Justice Department’s admissions have largely come as a result of being confronted with indisputable facts, the painfully slow process of getting the truth has been a continuing frustration for the Terry family. They still do not have the all the facts about the circumstances surrounding Brian Terry’s murder …. As Brian’s sister said of his family’s desire to know the full truth, ‘Brian was about making a difference and justice. And I just feel that this country owes it to him, because he spent his whole life fighting for this country some way or another.’”

    On Retaliation Faced by Agents who blew the whistle (p.13):

    “Agent Alt notified his superiors about his impending testimony. The next day, ATF Internal Affairs notified Alt that they wanted to talk with him about another matter. On May 5, 2011, Agent Alt met with ATF internal affairs investigators about allegations that Alt downloaded two prohibited applications to his government-issued phone. The total cost of these applications was eight dollars …. Alt was prevented from transferring offices and his eligibility for promotions and pay raises barred during the pendency of the investigation – all supposedly over eight dollars in phone applications.”

    On Fast and Furious fueling violence in Mexico (p. 15):

    “In October 2010, cartel members kidnapped Mario Gonzalez Rodriguez, the brother of the Attorney General for the Mexican state of Chihuahua, where Juarez is located. The cartel posted a video of the kidnapped Rodriguez online, in which he alleged, under duress, that his sister had ordered killings at the behest of the Juarez cartel. The video went viral and became a major news story in Mexico. Two weeks later, Mexican authorities found Rodriguez’s body in a shallow grave. In a subsequent shootout with cartel members responsible for the murder, police arrested eight and recovered sixteen weapons. Two of these weapons traced back to Operation Fast and Furious. Although the Department of Justice learned that these weapons traced back to Fast and Furious almost immediately, no one informed the Mexican government. Not until congressional investigators were on the verge of learning the truth about the connection did an ATF agent in Mexico finally tell the Mexican Attorney General in June 2011 – seven months after Rodriguez’s murder.”

    On allegations of intentional wrongdoing by Justice officials (p. 17):

    “Perhaps the most damning assessments of the Department’s handling of the fallout from Operation Fast and Furious have come from two Justice Department officials. Kenneth Melson, the former Acting AFT Director during the pendency of Fast and Furious, told Congress that, “it appears thoroughly to us that the department is really trying to figure out a way to push the information away from their political appointees at the department.” Patrick Cunningham, who had been tasked by the Justice Department with investigating ATF whistleblower allegations of gunwalking, would later invoke his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination in refusing to answer questions about his work.”

  21. All the reasons they think they have complied in 15 pages – mostly due to the ongoing investigation in their department. Has Issa offered their final warning – or exactly when will enough be enough? 58 letters sent and they still haven’t gotten the information requested!

    Obama administration shrugs off contempt threat against Holder
    12:47 AM 05/16/2012

    The U.S. Department of Justice struck back on Tuesday against House oversight committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa’s push to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress for his failure to comply with a congressional subpoena related to Operation Fast and Furious.

    “We believe that a contempt proceeding would be unwarranted given the information the Department has disclosed to the Committee to date; unprecedented given the law enforcement sensitivities at issue; and ill-advised given the damage it would cause to relations between the Executive and Legislative Branches,”Deputy Attorney General James Cole wrote to Issa on behalf of the DOJ.

    Cole also argued that Fast and Furious is not an “extraordinary” enough scandal for the Obama administration to be forced to provide records on open criminal investigations and prosecutions.

    Cole did not answer a question Issa asked Holder on May 10 about whether President Barack Obama is asserting executive privilege to continue avoiding compliance with the congressional subpoena.

    DOJ Letter to Issa – 15 pages

    Pg 4 – The DOJ has received 58 letters from you and Senator Grassley regarding this matter, 35 of which requested documents or other information, in addition to the Committee’s two subpoenas.


    Proof that Holder lied. Issa to the Dept. of inJustice and Holder. You can click on a link here to read the full letter.

    “The wiretap applications show that immense detail about questionable investigative tactics was available to the senior officials who reviewed and authorized them. The close involvement of these officials – much greater than previously known – is shocking,” Issa wrote to Holder. “Throughout the course of the congressional investigation into Operation Fast and Furious, the [Justice] Department has consistently denied that any senior officials were provided information about the tactics used in Operation Fast and Furious. The wiretap applications obtained by the Committee show such statements made by senior Department officials regarding the wiretaps to be false and misleading. You have repeatedly either denied involvement by senior officials in Fast and Furious, or asserted that the wiretap applications do not contain rich detail about irresponsible investigative tactics.”

    Note: Lanny Breuer involved in Fast and Furious. Just an aside: He was also involved in the so-called investigation and “prosecution” of the passport cauterizers.

  23. Good catch Miri is walking….
    Obama’s AG Eric Holder, DoJ Head Lanny Breuer Linked To Banks …

    Jan 23, 2012 … EXCERPTS: Eric Holder and Lanny Breuer, head of the Justice Department’s criminal division, were partners for years at a Washington law firm …

    EXCERPTS: Eric Holder and Lanny Breuer, head of the Justice Department’s criminal division, were partners for years at a Washington law firm that represented a Who’s Who of big banks and other companies at the center of alleged foreclosure fraud, a Reuters inquiry shows.

    Reuters reported in December that under Holder and Breuer, the Justice Department hasn’t brought any criminal cases against big banks or other companies involved in mortgage servicing, even though copious evidence has surfaced of apparent criminal violations in foreclosure cases.

    The evidence, including records from federal and state courts and local clerks’ offices around the country, shows widespread forgery, perjury, obstruction of justice, and illegal foreclosures on the homes of thousands of active-duty military personnel.

    In recent weeks the Justice Department has come under renewed pressure from members of Congress, state and local officials and homeowners’ lawyers to open a wide-ranging criminal investigation of mortgage servicers, the biggest of which have been Covington clients. So far Justice officials haven’t responded publicly to any of the requests.

    While Holder and Breuer were partners at Covington, the firm’s clients included the four largest U.S. banks – Bank of America, Citigroup, JP Morgan Chase and Wells Fargo & Co – as well as at least one other bank that is among the 10 largest mortgage servicers

  24. The administration put this plan into affect in 2009………
    They all knew what was put in place under fast and furious


    Homeland Security Investigations Special Agent Jaime Zapata and the scene of his ambush murder.
    Congressional investigators permitted to view Department of Homeland Security documents related to the Fast and Furious operation have located and seen an Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) Report of Investigation (ROI) from August 2010 describing 80 weapons seized in an arms smuggling interdiction between Phoenix, Arizona and San Antonio, Texas. Of these weapons, the majority (approximately 50) were noted to have come from Operation Fast & Furious in Arizona, purchased by Uriel Patino and Jacob Chambers. The ROI was written and signed by Homeland Security Investigations Special Agent Jaime Zapata, who was shot dead in an ambush at a fake roadblock in San Luis Potosí, Mexico on 15 February 2011. At the time of the report, Agent Zapata was assigned to the Laredo office.
    Two of the weapons found at the murder scene were later traced back to Texas — One was purchased in August 2010 near Houston on behalf of accused drug dealer Manuel Gomez Barba, and the other in October 2010 by a Dallas trafficking ring that included Otilio Osorio and his brother Ranferi. Much like Fast and Furious, both groups had been under ATF surveillance for many months, although ATF officials in Texas later denied that any gunwalking happened in their state. United State Senator John Cornyn has pressed Eric Holder and DOJ for details on any gunwalking in Texas. So far, he has been met with denials or silence.
    The Department of Homeland Security, ICE and the Department of Justice have long denied that the case of Jaime Zapata had anything to do with Fast and Furious. The discovery of this ROI by Zapata, “puts the lie to that (expletives deleted) by Napolitano and Holder,” according on source who spoke with this reporter on conditions of absolute anonymity.
    Multiple sources including current and former employees of the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security have confirmed this explosive new revelation in the Fast & Furious investigation. Said one source, “I think (DHS) is covering up something big.” He added, “I feel betrayed.”
    At the time of Agent Zapata’s death, President Obama declared “The United States will work with Mexico to bring the assailants to justice.” For her part, Janet Napolitano avowed: “Let me be clear: Any act of violence against our ICE personnel — or any DHS personnel — is an attack against all those who serve our nation and put their lives at risk for our safety.”
    One source indicated his frustration that neither DHS nor the FBI have come under scrutiny for what they know about gunwalking operations and the murders of Agent Zapata and Border Patrol BORTAC Team member Brian Terry.
    Said another, “DHS walked away and pretended that this was Holder’s problem,” adding “If they didn’t know, they should have known.”
    The revelation of the existence of Agent Zapata’s August 2010 ROI should serve to bring more scrutiny to Janet Napolitano and her knowledge of gunwalking and the murders of Zapata and Terry, despite her previous denials under oath.
    According to sources, both DHS and DOJ are “in a deep panic” that “their carefully contrived cover-up is breaking down,” in the words of one.
    Early morning inquiries to the offices of Congressman McCaul and Senator Cornyn for comment have not, as yet, been answered. This is not their fault, as I have had to push up the post time for this article out of concern for being scooped by other news organizations which I know are cognizant of this story. Their comments will form the basis of a follow-up story.

    • Free Republic is covering this and one commenter has an excellent point:

      “Hillary supporters?
      Well, well. It is my understanding that Hillary was IN at the very TOP levels of discussions on this F & F scam. She wants gun control and this was supposed to do the trick. Have so many guns cause havoc, that the knuckleheads in this country would rise up against the 2nd amendment.


      She is just as nervous as Holder, I think. I read it somewhere on FReeper a while back. Anyone else see that and can bring that back to the board here? I think the bubbas and the moochers are backed into dueling corners, each having “stuff” on the others. Holder is the referee, trying to hold the house of cards together. But the wind is starting to blow. BUT….. let’s not forget who we’re dealing with. Clinton is an expert at getting himself out of a jam. Notice that Hillary has been either on the road or very quiet? Wouldn’t you love to hear HER phone calls about all this or The Moocher and Bubba on the phone together?

      14 posted on Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:15:42 PM by WaterWeWaitinFor (If we don’t help make a change, then who will? It starts with us.)”

      Barry, btw, is at some summit this coming week. He always is out of the country when the winds of change are blowing against him. Hillary is up to her eyeballs in Fast and Furious and in MOST of the communist schemes of this WH. She is complicit. She is one of the gang. Today, Krauthammer wrote about Hillary, “secretaryship of state may not remotely qualify as Kissingerian or Achesonian, but she’s not Obama. She carries none of his economic baggage. She’s unsullied by the past 3 1/2 years.”

      No, she is TOTALLY SULLIED BY THE PAST 3 1/2 years. TOTALLY. In for a penny, in for a dollar. If Fast and Furious brings her down, too, then all the better for our Republic. GWB should have FUMIGATED when he had the chance instead of playing the “gentleman” who wanted to heal the country.

      • Hillary in F and F ? Really ?

        • In on the meme (LIE) from the beginning: Where Hillary blames the USA for the drug violence in Mexico because arms from the USA are used in 90% of the incidents. This is a lie that even FactCheck points out but lays at her feet, too:

          A story from last October:

          “Issa’s focus on the Attorney General is well-placed. Holder became the point man on gun control during his stint with the Clinton administration and was an obvious choice to help navigate the Obama administration through the turbulent waters of gun control.

          But he was not alone. Another figure, whose name is conspicuously absent in much of the current debate over Fast and Furious, is also a leader on the gun control issue: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

          From the start, Obama, Clinton, Holder and another cabinet member, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, were itching to make headway on restricting guns, but how could that be done without exacting an unacceptable political price?

          For that, the foursome looked south. With violence increasing along the U.S.-Mexico border in 2009, the Obama administration found the perfect scapegoat.

          Holder was the first to test the waters. In a February 25, 2009 press conference, Holder spoke for the new administration:

          There are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons. I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico at a minimum.

          Holder was quickly repudiated by Democrats in Congress, more than 60 of whom said in a letter that a renewal of the gun ban was a non-starter, and Holder was forced to back away from his comments.

          The 90% Myth

          A month later, as she embarked on her first trip to Mexico as Secretary of State, Clinton told CBS news that, “The guns that are used by the drug cartels against the police and the military, 90 percent of them come from America.”

          Clinton’s use of the 90% number sent honest reporters looking for verification. Instead, the number was debunked within days. Still, the administration clung tenaciously to the 90% claim.

          While Fast and Furious was not specifically mentioned at the press briefing (it would begin operating later in the year), that meeting at the White house shows that the heads of at least three departments of the federal government were intensely aware of what was happening along the border at the very beginning of the Obama administration.

          One by one, however, Obama, Holder, Napolitano and Clinton (plus a host of lower level officials) have denied any knowledge of Fast and Furious prior to 2011.

          Either they all have lied, under oath or in public comments, about their knowledge of Fast and Furious.

          Or there exists an unbelievable level of incompetence at the State Department (for not being aware of thousands of guns being sent to violent gangs in another country), at Homeland Security (which claims no knowledge of guns being allowed to walk across a border which falls under its jurisdiction to control) and at the Justice Department (with high-level officials claiming no knowledge of a multi-million dollar operation occurring right under its nose).”

          • YIKES…not good.

          • Issa is possibly going to deal with Holder and delay the contempt citation, if he gets what he wants out of Holder. Some say he’s backing down while others say he’s biding time and letting Holder put himself even more into jeopardy. Biding time perhaps so that the DemoncRATS get what’s coming when it’s too late for them to put up somebody else in Obama’s place. This is a real danger. They need to have the goods on all of them, INCLUDING AND ESPECIALLY HILLARY, lest Issa play right into their hands.

  26. Univision interview

    Date: April 17, 2011

    Jorge Ramos, Univision Host.
    Mary Zapata, mother of ICE agent Jaime Zapata.
    Amador Zapata, father of ICE agent Jaime Zapata.
    John Dodson, ATF agent, whistleblower.
    Rene Jaquez, ATF agent, whistleblower.
    Juan Miguel Freyre, son of murder victim.
    Carlos Spector, attorney for Juan Miguel Freyre.
    William “Bill” Newell, ATF Special Agent in Charge, Phoenix.
    President Barack Obama
    Senator Charles “Chuck” Grassley

    Mary Zapata: “I don’t want this to ever happen to another American.”

    Amador Zapata: “No one.”

    Mary Zapata: “Or Mexican.”


    Mary Zapata: “I never thought his life was in danger because I thought he was going to work at the embassy.”


    Mary Zapata: “I want to know if we, the United States, are responsible for sending the guns.”


    John Dodson: “Once we watch the transfer and those guns head in an opposite direction, there is no way to find them, to recover them, to identify them until they turn up in a crime.”


    Rene Jaquez: “That has always been a rule for us in law enforcement: not to release a weapon, not to lose a weapon that could end up circulating among criminals.”


    Rene Jaquez: “Apparently, we have allowed more weapons to get in than we have stopped in our investigations.”

    Jorge Ramos: “What are we talking about? We are talking precisely about the type of weapons that were allowed to go from the United States to Mexico under the “Fast and Furious” operation. A 9-mm handgun or this .38-caliber. After that, the most shocking ones are this AR-15, which although its parts may come from overseas, according to U.S. laws, they must be assembled in the United States, and finally, a better-known one, a AK-47 or Kalishnikov like this one.



    • Wow. This is out of character for Ramos who up till this (and since) has sounded and acted like a total Obama lover. Does Ramos believe Barry knew NOTHING of this program?

      Zapata was murdered. Targeted at a BOGUS ROADBLOCK. Stopped and then shot in cold blood. This was not any random murder. It was an assassination. An ambush. An execution. Why? Who was more at risk from Zapata’s investigations? The cartels or the gun runners of Fast and Furious? Who wanted Agent Zapata dead?


    By now, you probably know that President Barack Obama invoked executive privilege to stall Congress’ attempt to get Attorney General Eric Holder to fork over documents in the Fast and Furious Scandal.

    You probably also know, by now, that Obama explicitly spoke out against executive privilege before he was president, saying “the American people need to know what’s going on,” in yet another classic “do as I say, not as I do” moment brought to you by the first dictator in the history of the United States.

    But did you know the president has to be involved in a situation in order to invoke executive privilege?

    From the files of Congress:

    Under those precedents, the privilege, which is constitutionally rooted, could be invoked by the President when asked to produce documents or other materials or information that reflect presidential decisionmaking and deliberations that he believes should remain confidential.
    Note the emphasized language, and the grammar of the sentence that leaves no doubt that the president MUST be involved in whatever issue for which he invokes executive privilege: “when asked to produce documents or other materials or information that reflect PRESIDENTIAL DECISIONMAKING AND DELIBERATIONS.

    So, what we have here, then, is the president not only protecting Holder, he’s also protecting himself.

    • McCain and others have already come out and said that this is a virtual admission of his involvement. Therefore, imho, OBAMA should be called to testify to defend his rationale and be ASKED BY THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE, AND BY THE FAMILIES OF THE DEAD AGENTS: WHAT DID YOU KNOW AND WHEN DID YOU KNOW IT? How fitting that this is the 40th anniversary of Watergate, which looks like a cakewalk compared to Fast and Furious.

      Holder lied and U.S. agents and a LOT of Mexicans died.

    • Article at Breitbart linked at your link as an Update. Says O invoked deliberate executive privilege which is different and does not mean he was involved but it actually is worse for him.

      • President Obama’s assertion of executive privilege to prevent Attorney General Eric Holder from complying with congressional subpoenas on the Operation Fast and Furious fiasco will blow up in the White House’s face. But not for the reasons you’ve heard on the first day of this legal fight.

        Some Republicans are saying—and some media commentators are reporting—that executive privilege only applies when the president himself is involved. That’s incorrect as a matter of law.

        It’s important to get this right, because some are suggesting that today’s invoking of the privilege means Obama himself is involved, a smoking gun that could make this the next Watergate. Not true. The White House might be involved, but we don’t know one way or another… yet.

        As I’ve written before, there are two types of executive privilege. One is a strong form rooted in the Constitution, called the presidential communication privilege. But there is another type, much weaker and rooted in common law instead of the Constitution, called the deliberative process privilege. That second, weaker variety is what President Obama invoked today regarding Holder.

        It’s still the White House asserting the privilege, because only the president can assert executive privilege for his entire administration. (Except that the vice president can also assert it, but only for matters directly involving the VP.) So Obama has invoked it on Holder’s behalf.

        Others are also incorrect in saying executive privilege only applies to military matters, diplomatic secrets, or national security situations. The courts have repeatedly held that executive privilege covers much more than that, most recently in 2004 in Cheney v. U.S. District Court, where the Supreme Court considered whether the VP’s conversations with energy industry leaders was protected by the privilege. Executive privilege is strongest when those three issues are on the table, but it’s broader than that.

        There are several factors court look to. The most important is whether the president was involved, since that determines which privilege (presidential communications versus deliberative process) is in play. Beyond that several factors weigh in favor of Congress and against Holder here. This was domestic policy (not foreign), in an operation out of an agency (not the White House), where crimes may have been committed, and none of the president’s constitutional prerogatives are implicated by the case. Factors favoring Obama are that this is not legislative policymaking, and it does have a diplomatic angle because of relations with Mexico. But surveying 200 years of court precedent shows that Congress has the better claim here.

        The only way to beat an executive privilege claim is by court order

        • Executive privilege can’t be used to hide wrongdoing such as perjury or another crime. Then they can be forced to tell a judge WHY this isn’t what they’re doing, according to whistleblower J. Christian Anderson, who says now Obama has assumed “total ownership” of Fast and Furious. It doesn’t mean Obama was involved but it means his administration was. He says Judge Andrew Napolitano is wrong. It doesn’t mean Obama’s communications are being protected (necessarily). “This is the Right’s version of Watergate,” according to Anderson (I’m listening to him now.) “This is a lawless administration … of thugs.” He said something about murder being nothing to them, but I didn’t catch the entire statement. WH coordination and genesis of the policy is something that would not surprise anybody: that they would use this policy to advance their desire for “long gun” control. Several have already LIED to Congress. This is all being protected by this executive privilege claim.

          Operation Wide Receiver was straw purchase program under GWB, but guns were TAGGED and as soon as any slipped out of ATF control, Bush CANCELED the program.

          Obama started a NEW program, Fast and Furious. Thousands of guns were sold but only a very FEW were actually tagged so MOST could not be traced and weren’t designed to be traced. When whistleblowers WARNED superiors about the danger and how guns were being lost and how the program should be shut down, they were ignored and Obama continued on track. Agent Terry [and Agent Zapata] got killed.

          When they blame Bush, they’re LYING. Bush’s program differed fundamentally and GWB halted the program as soon as it got out of control. OBAMA’s administration invented this program and didn’t stop it until more than 300 people were dead.

          Bush’s use of executive privilege involved national security and wasn’t designed merely to protect LYING to Congress when people are DEAD.

        • Another difference between GWB’s program and Fast and Furious is that Bush worked WITH Mexico–they knew about it and cooperated in it. Mexico did not KNOW about F&F, nor did they cooperate in it. Therefore, seems to me, Obama can’t claim it affects diplomatic relations because they deliberately kept the Mexicans in the dark.

          We need that court order now, but will they get it? Considering the fate of the eligibility cases …


    Obama asserted executive privilege against the release of documents in fast and furious

    He must be sooo involved…. It was HIS baby………..

    • Exactly! You don’t assert executive privilege if it has nothing to do with you! Obama, when Bush was president, railed against Bush using executive privilege. Said something like what he says on those ORYR videos:

      “The only people who don’t want to DISCLOSE the truth, are people with something to hide.”

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