Adm. Mullen states Pakistan’s ISI Works with Terrorists!

©Bridgette @ WTPOTUS 2011

If  Only…the Terrorists Would Unclench their Fists

and Other Failed Obama Foreign Policies…!


In a surprise testimony before Congress the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Michael Mullen, accused the Pakistani government’s intelligence agency (ISI) of supporting and enabling  the Haqqani terrorists.  The Haqqani network is a Pakistani based  group affiliated with  both the Taliban and Al Queda.  They are  considered the  greatest threat to US  and NATO forces in Afghanistan.

Recent attacks in Kabul, Afghanistan are attributed to this group.  According to Al Jazeera the  attack in June, 2011 on the Hotel Inter-Continental by the Taliban was assisted by the Haqqani terrorists.    On September 12, the AP reported “Haqqani group behind Afghan bombing, U.S. says. “  A massive truck bomb exploded outside a military combat post killing five Afghans, including four civilians, and wounding 77 U.S. soldiers, 14 Afghan civilians, and three policemen.  Adm. Mullen agrees with these reports.

It has been suspected for years that Pakistan, a questionable and unreliable ally of the U.S., have been giving  support to the Taliban and its associates. They receive annual foreign aid from the U.S. for their “help” in combating terrorism.  Wiki reports, “Between 2002-2010, Pakistan received approximately $18 billion in military and economic aid from the United States.  In February 2010, the Obama administration requested an additional $3 billion in aid, for a total of $20.7 billion.”  For that pittance,  we have the ISI supporting the very groups that are attacking US troops!

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has stood before the American people and stated his support in the War Against Terror.   Yet he has made several threats  to quit the political process and join the Taliban  if foreigners don’t stop meddling in Afghanistan.  [Quit asking for an accounting of the money that is sent!]

FOX news reported on June 18, 2011 that the US and Afghanistan were engaged in Peace Talks.  “Afghan President Hamid Karzai says his government and the United States are negotiating with Taliban fighters to bring peace to the country.”  This was the first official confirmation that our government was involved in talks with a terrorist organization.

For Admiral Mullen to divulge this shocking admission that the ISI supports and enables the very terrorists Pakistan is being paid to combat occurs days before his retirement.   According to news reports, the Admiral believes that our  diplomatic chats  with Pakistani officials (Taliban – terrorists),   are working, and we should continue with this failed diplomatic overture.  The chats are working so well, that the attacks keep coming, and our aid keeps flowing!

Why do we continue to supply aid to Pakistan?  Most likely because of the fear that the ” safely guarded” nukes do not fall  into terrorist hands.  Yet whose hands are they in now?  Isn’t it about time for the U.S. to stop playing their game?  No matter what they do or say, we keep sending the corrupt government of Pakistan money!   Obama’s brand of Wishy washy, “unclench your fist” foreign policies aren’t working!  Our soldiers are getting wounded and killed!  

Adm. Mike Mullen - Photo: Reuters

From the article, “Adm. Mullen accuses Pakistan’s ISI of treachery, but says let’s keep talking,”  are excerpts from his testimony on Thursday.

Yeah, let’s chat!

“With ISI support, Haqqani operatives plan and conducted that truck bomb attack, as well as the assault on our embassy. We also have credible intelligence that they were behind the  June 28th attack on the Inter-Continental Hotel in Kabul and a host of other smaller but effective operations.

In choosing to use violent extremism as an instrument of policy, the government of Pakistan, and most especially the Pakistani army and ISI,  jeopardizes not only the prospect of our strategic partnership, but Pakistan’s opportunity to be a respected nation with legitimate regional influence.

They may believe that by using these proxies, they are hedging their bets or redressing what they feel is an imbalance in regional power. But in reality, they have already lost that bet.   By exporting violence, they’ve eroded their internal security and their position in the region. They have undermined their international credibility and threatened their economic well-being. Only a decision to break with this policy can pave the road to a positive future for Pakistan…

General Ashfaque Kayani

As you know, I’ve expended enormous energy on this relationship.   I’ve met with General Kayani  [Current Chief of Army Staff of the Pakistan Army.  He replaced General Pervez Musharraf on November 29, 2007.  He is the former Director General of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).] more than two dozen times, including a two and a half hour meeting last weekend in Spain … Some may argue I’ve wasted my time, that Pakistan is no closer to us than before, and may now have drifted even further away.   I disagree.   Military cooperation again is warming.   Information flow between us and across the border is quickening.  Transparent — transparency is returning slowly…. I actually believe that the ISI has got to fundamentally shift its strategic focus.   They’re — they are the ones who implement as — I would argue as a part of government policy the support of extremists.   It’s not just Haqqani because we’ve also had our challenges with LET, [one of the largest and most active militant Islamist terrorist organizations]  which is an organization they put in place.  So in many ways, it’s the proxy piece here.

The support of terrorism is part of their national strategy to protect their own vital interests because of where they live.   And that’s got to fundamentally shift. … it’s very clear the toughest fight is going to be in the east, and the Haqqani network is embedded in Pakistan essentially across from hosts  Paktia and Paktika, which, as General Petraeus said, is sort of the “jet stream to Kabul.”   And they want to own that. That’s really their goal … So I think the risk there is very high.

Over the course of the next couple of years I think the biggest fight is going to be in the east, enabled certainly by us, but also Afghan security forces and coalition forces, more than anyplace else. The south I’m not going to say is not problematic, but we’re in a much better place in Kandahar and Helmand than we were a couple years ago. It’s going to be the east, I think, that in the end answers this from a security standpoint. And Haqqani is at the heart of that.” ~ Adm. Mike Mullen

A report coming from the UK, seems to show that after Mullen’s testimony that the Pakistani’s are worried about the U.S.’ s reaction to his information. The Telegraph reported on September 22nd,

“Rehman Malik, Pakistan’s interior minister, warned the US against an imminent raid against the Haqqani leadership in North Waziristan, a mountain region close to the border with Afghanistan.

He denied that the intelligence agency had ties to the network.

“The Pakistan nation will not allow the boots on our ground, never,”  Mr. Malik said. “Our government is already co-operating with the US but they also must respect our sovereignty.”

Another report states that the U.S. is CONSIDERING placing the Haqqanis on its list of terrorist organizations.  But that would imply that Pakistan was a state sponsor of terrorism and that would bring consequences.  Wow, how frightening.   How long will it take for the US to make this tough decision?  How many more chats are scheduled?  Perhaps one of Obama’s famous Beer Summits might work instead.


Mr. Malik,  I guess we have to wonder exactly what the words “co-operating with the US” means.  Lip service doesn’t count.  We don’t have to ask permission anymore.  Your government has aligned itself with terrorists at our expense.  Your government has declared war on our soldiers by enabling terrorist organizations within your country.  The trust is gone.

We know that it is not in the interests of Pakistan or the Afghan governments to have a peaceful outcome to the present situation with billions in foreign aid flowing into their countries.  But it is in our best interest to stop the aid and take over the nukes.  Talk is cheap, and they have shown their dirty hands more than once.

We allegedly went into Pakistan and took out Bin Laden, now let’s go in and take out some nukes instead!  Save the region and the US all at once.   Their siding with terrorists is an act of war against the U.S..   It is time to show them our military’s real strength.  Only this time the military shouldn’t have to fight pansy Obama’s way with one hand  tied behind their back.   Let them do what they are trained to do and how they are trained to do it.    Let’s get it done in a way that leads to our control of the nukes and final victory!   They are already brought up to hate the US, so Quit playing Mr. Nice Guy!   Stop the money flow, clench our own fists, and let’s see how long they last.   We went into Libya for no reason.  There is a reason for going into Pakistan.  Get the nukes, and get out.  “Boots on the Ground!”


13 responses to “Adm. Mullen states Pakistan’s ISI Works with Terrorists!

  1. Top Pakistan army commanders meet after US claims
    Sept. 25 Snips

    ISLAMABAD (AP) — Pakistan’s army chief will convene a special meeting of senior commanders Sunday following U.S. allegations that the military’s spy agency helped militants attack American targets in Afghanistan, the army said.

    Senior Pakistani officials have lashed out against the allegations of support for the Haqqani militant network, accusing the U.S. of trying to make Pakistan a scapegoat for its troubled war in Afghanistan. The public spat has plunged the troubled U.S.-Pakistan alliance to new lows.

    Pakistan’s leaders have shown no indication that they plan to act on renewed American demands to attack the Haqqani network in their main base in Pakistan, even at the risk of further conflict with Washington, which has given the country billions of dollars in military and economic aid.

    Kayani, widely considered the most powerful man in Pakistan, has dismissed the allegations, saying the charges were baseless and part of a public “blame game” detrimental to peace in Afghanistan. Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani also slapped down the accusations in a statement issued late Saturday.

    U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has implied that American forces could even carry out unilateral raids inside Pakistan against the Haqqani network, operations that could have explosive implications in Pakistan where anti-American sentiment is widespread.

    Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar warned the U.S. on Saturday against sending American troops into Pakistan, saying there are red lines and rules of engagement that should not be broken. “It opens all kinds of doors and all kinds of options,” she told Pakistan’s private Aaj News TV from New York. The comment was in response to a question about the possibility of U.S. troops coming to Pakistan.

  2. Pakistan army chief calls special meeting
    By Zeeshan Haider | Reuters
    Sept. 25

    ISLAMABAD (Reuters) – Pakistan’s powerful army chief General Ashfaq Kayani on Sunday called a “special” meeting of his top commanders to discuss the security situation, the military said, as the war of words with the United States escalated.

    In an interview with CNN, Abbas acknowledged that army’s Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) maintained contacts with the Haqqani network, but said that didn’t mean it supported it.

    “Any intelligence agency would like to maintain contact with whatever opposition group, whatever terrorist organization … for some positive outcome,” he told CNN in a telephone interview. However, he said there was a huge difference between maintaining those contacts to facilitate peace and supporting it against an ally.

    Gilani’s Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar told Washington on Friday that it risked losing an ally if it kept accusing Islamabad of playing a double game in the war against militancy, and escalating a crisis in ties triggered by U.S. forces’ killing of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in Pakistan in an unannounced raid in May. Security analyst Masood said the sharpened rhetoric between Pakistan and the United States could lead to a “collision.

  3. Think things are heating up with Pakistan? The Chinese do! Fear of losing their billions in aid from the US – they step up ties with the Chinese?

    Top Chinese security official visits Pakistan

    Sept. 26 Snips
    (AP) ISLAMABAD — China’s top security official visited Pakistan Monday in an effort to strengthen ties with a country whose relationship with the United States is growing more tenuous by the day.

    Pakistani officials and commentators have been talking up their country’s relationship with Beijing, with some suggesting it could one day replace the United States as Islamabad’s main foreign benefactor.

    China’s Public Security Minister Meng Jianzhu was met by his Pakistani counterpart, Interior Minister Rehman Malik, who brushed aside questions on the timing of the visit. “Lets not talk USA here. I am here with my friend China,” he told reporters. “China is always there for us in the most difficult moments.” [REALLY? Of course, it was the Chinese that Pakistan let investigate the helicopter that crashed in Bin Laden’s compound.]

    Beijing provides Pakistan with aid and direct foreign investment, while Pakistan offers Beijing important diplomatic backing in the face of Muslim-majority nations who might otherwise criticize China’s handling of its Muslim Uighur population. Beijing is concerned that Uighur militants are living in northwest Pakistan alongside al-Qaida-linked extremists.
    [Weren’t the Chinese Muslim Ulghurs the ones that were in Gitmo that Obama released to a lovely island of Bermuda to live out their days? ]

    China and Pakistan have long had good ties, in large part due to their mutual distrust of India. China fought India in a brief but bloody 1962 border war, and Pakistan has fought its neighbor three times since 1947.

    Washington is demanding that Pakistan launch an attack against those insurgents, whose leadership is believed to be based in northwest Pakistan close to the Afghan border. Officials in Islamabad dismissed the U.S. allegations and are not showing any signs that they plan to act on the renewed American demand.

  4. US Senator calls for military action against Pakistan
    Sep 25, 2011

    The sovereign nation of Pakistan is engaging in hostile acts against the United States and our ally Afghanistan, that must cease. They’re killing our soldiers. If they continue to embrace terrorism as a part of their national strategy, we’re going to have to put all options on the table including defending our troops.

    ~Sen. Lindsay Graham

    • Wag the dog?

    • Afghanistan is angry because Pakistan is lobbing missiles into their country, from Pakistan, and killing Afghan citizens.

      Afghan defense officials warned Pakistan on Sunday to stop firing rockets and heavy artillery into the northeast of the country or the military would respond with force. Pakistan denied it was responsible.

      Separately, a U.S. official confirmed an attack on a facility used by American officials in Kabul.

      “The situation is fluid, and the investigation is ongoing,” the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

      Afghan authorities said gunfire was heard in the evening near a building that has been used by the CIA in Kabul. It was unclear whether anyone was killed or hurt. The authorities said that shots were heard around the former Ariana Hotel just blocks from the Afghan presidential palace. The CIA occupied the heavily secured building in late 2001 after the U.S.-led invasion that toppled the Taliban.

      The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to disclose any information.”

      All coincidence?

  5. Pakistan: Dengue fever death toll rises to 100, more than 10,000 cases
    Sept. 26, 2011 38 minutes ago. snips

    LAHORE, PAKISTAN (BNO NEWS) — The death toll as a result of Pakistan’s dengue fever outbreak continues to rise at alarming rates as at least 100 people have now been confirmed dead, officials said on Monday. Thousands more have been sickened.

    The ongoing outbreak is mostly affecting Pakistan’s eastern province of Punjab and its capital of Lahore, where 9,148 cases were reported alone. More than 10,000 cases in total have been reported and, despite this, schools across the province are beginning to reopen.

    Dengue spreads more often after the rainy season when stagnant water on the streets may activate the breed of mosquitoes, causing dengue fever. Heavy monsoon rains in southeastern Pakistan have so far claimed the lives of some 300 people and displaced millions more.

  6. These two stories are tangentially related to this issue of the Middle East, terrorism, and jihad. Barry announced the end of the Iraq war because Iraq won’t allow our bases in Iraq anymore. Iran is pushing hard, and will do so more now that we’re pulling out of Iraq. Iran is inciting by putting their fleet along our coast. Gadhafi is killed, and Hillary is now also calling for an investigation into his “murder”, belatedly discovering that some of these militias that NATO and Obama supported are (surprise!) cold-blooded killers. Not peaceful revolutionaries, longing to be free. Now comes this news:

    “The [LIBYAN] transitional government leader Mustafa Abdul-Jalil set out a vision for the post-Gadhafi future with an Islamist tint, saying that Islamic Sharia law would be the “basic source” of legislation in the country and that existing laws that contradict the teachings of Islam would be nullified.

    In a gesture that showed his own piety, he urged Libyans not to express their joy by firing in the air, but rather to chant “Allahu Akbar,“ or ”God is Great.” He then stepped aside and knelt to offer a brief prayer of thanks. … Abdul-Jalil said new banks would be set up to follow the Islamic banking system, which bans charging interest. For the time being, he said interest would be canceled from any personal loans already taken out less than 10,000 Libyan dinars (about $7,500).

    He also announced that all military personnel and civilians who have taken part in the fight against Gadhafi would be promoted to the rank above their existing one. He said a package of perks would later be announced for all fighters.

    “Thank you, thank you to the fighters who achieved victory, both civilians and military,” he said. He also paid tribute to the Gulf Cooperation Council, a six-nation alliance led by Saudi Arabia, The Arab League and the European Union. NATO, which aided the anti-Gadhafi fighters with airstrikes, performed its task with “efficiency and professionalism.””

    Isn’t that special? No personal thanks for Barry, though, I notice.

    Poopstockers would like the sharia banking system. No interest.

    “Nearly 70% of voters have turned out to cast their ballot in Tunisia’s election, the first free poll of the Arab Spring, officials say.

    Tunisians are electing a 217-seat assembly that will draft a constitution and appoint an interim government.

    Former President Zinedine el-Abidine Ben Ali was overthrown nine months ago after mass demonstrations.

    Islamist party Ennahda is expected to win the most votes, though it is not clear if it will gain a majority. … Ennahda, a moderate Islamist party [AN OXYMORON], has sought to allay the fears of Tunisian secularists by stating its commitment to democracy and women’s rights. … Ennahda’s leader, Rachid Ghannouchi, was heckled by a handful of secularist protesters as he left the polling station in Tunis where he voted.

    The hecklers called him a terrorist and an assassin and shouted at him to return to London, where he spent 22 years in exile before returning to Tunisia in April.”

    Sounds as if the lamestream is spinning as fast as they can:

    “Ghannouchi, who spent 22 years in exile in Britain, has associated his party with the moderate Islamism of Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan. He has said he will not try to impose Muslim values on society.

    “Islam should be respected again in Tunisia,” said Hasna Ben Zid, a 38-year-old woman wearing a hijab, “That’s why I’m going to vote for the only Islamic party.”

    But the party’s rise worries secularists who believe their country’s liberal, modernist traditions are now under threat. … Ennahda has been at pains to assuage the concerns of secularists and Western powers. Yet observers say there is tension inside the party between Ghannouchi’s moderate line and more vehement Islamists among the rank-and-file.

    A final election rally on Friday illustrated the party’s contradictions as Suad Abdel-Rahim, a tall, glamorous female Ennahda candidate who does not wear a veil, addressed the crowd.

    But many books on sale on the fringes of the rally were by writers who belong to the strict Salafist branch of Islam. They believe women should be segregated from men in public and that elections are un-Islamic.

    “I’m not so optimistic about the result of the vote,” said Ziyed Tijiani, a 26-year-old architect who had just cast his vote. His forefinger was stained with the blue ink used in polling stations to stop ballot fraud.

    I think the Islamists could win. It’s not want I want. They may try to change the way I live,” he said, accompanied by a young woman in jeans and T-shirt.

    An Ennahda victory would be the first such success in the Arab world since Hamas won a 2006 Palestinian vote. Islamists won a 1991 election in Algeria, Tunisia’s neighbor. The army annulled the result, provoking years of conflict.

    Ennahda’s fortunes may have a bearing on Egyptian elections set for next month in which the Muslim Brotherhood, an ideological ally, also hopes to emerge strongest.

    Tunisia’s election will be watched too in neighbouring Libya, which plans elections next year after a revolt there ousted Muammar Gaddafi.”

    Don’t tell me that by calling the Muslim Brotherhood an “ideological ally” of Ennahda, they’re claiming that the Muslim Brotherhood is ALSO “moderate”?

    It all depends upon what the meaning of “moderate” is, doesn’t it?

    • Mr Abdul-Jalil went further, specifically lifting immediately, by decree, one law from Col. Gaddafi’s era that he said was in conflict with Sharia – that banning polygamy.

      Welcome to your new world, women of Libya. Courtesy of NATO and the Obama administration. Get used to polygamy again. You’re nothing but herd animals. Don’t you know? So much for women’s rights in Libya. How long before they haul out the veils and burkas?

      Thank you Barry! Have you noticed how most of the dictators getting tossed in the Middle East are the SECULAR ones? Coincidence?

      • Welcome to your new world, women of Libya. Courtesy of NATO and the Obama administration. Get used to polygamy again. You’re nothing but herd animals.
        And these men are PIGS.

  7. Here’s what I call GRATITUDE:

    “Afghanistan would support Pakistan in case of military conflict between Pakistan and the United States, Afghan President Hamid Karzai said in an interview to a private Pakistani TV channel broadcast on Saturday.

    The remarks were in sharp contrast to recent tension between the two neighbors over cross-border raids, and Afghan accusations that Pakistan was involved in killing the chief Afghan peace envoy, former Afghan president Burhanuddin Rabbani, by a suicide bomber on September 20.

    “God forbid, If ever there is a war between Pakistan and America, Afghanistan will side with Pakistan,” he said in the interview to Geo television.
    “If Pakistan is attacked and if the people of Pakistan needs Afghanistan’s help, Afghanistan will be there with you.””

    Well, didn’t Barry also say that he will ALWAYS side with the Muslims? I believe so.

  8. By Bhaskar Roy | South Asia Analysis Group

    On July 19, the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) arrested Dr. Ghulam Nabi Fai, 62, on the following charges (i) acting as an agent of a foreign principal without registering with the Attorney General in violation of Foreign Agents Registration act (FARA); (ii) Falsify, conceal and cover up material facts they had a duty to disclose in matters within the jurisdiction of the Executive Branch agencies of the US government. Another person
    who is a co-accused with Fai is Zaheer Ahmed, 63, a US citizen and a resident of Pakistan. Ahmed could not be arrested as he was reported to be in Pakistan. Fai is a US citizen. This is legal language, but there is much more to this as explained in the US Justice Department affidavit.

    Briefly, the detailed affidavit makes the following important points. Dr. Fai was working on behalf of the Pakistani government and its Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI); his Non-Government Organization (NGO) Kashmir American Council (KAC) or Kashmir Center, worked to influence US law makers and officials; attempted to influence US policies and laws by holding high profile conferences; received hundreds of millions of dollars illegally from the ISI (at least $4 million since mid-1990s); had his plans approved by the ISI; two similar organizations existed in London and Brussels. The affidavit, however, took care to record there was no evidence that any of the elected (American) officials who received financial contributions from Fai and KAC was aware that the money originated from any part of the Pakistani government. All very nicely done.

    Ghulam Nabi Fai has been charged, but not convicted. Such trials in the US do not take much time. One would have to see how the case proceeds.

    It would be the biggest joke of the last two decades if people who have enjoyed Fai’s hospitality and largesse plead that they had no knowledge of his links with the ISI and the Pakistani establishment. So is the case with American intelligence and security agencies and think tanks. But the mainline US media has generally kept away from Fai and his KAC.

    Inside the Washington D.C. belt way it was very well known for years who Ghulam Nabi Fai was, his origin from Kashmir in India, and that the source
    of his funds emanated from Pakistan, that is, the ISI. Several Pakistani Americans and Indian Kashmiri Muslim Americans have in the past openly challenged Fai as an ISI agent. For the kind of operation Fai was running a lot of money had to be spent, and the Kashmiri Muslim American doctors are not the kind of people who would spend money from their pockets. Their presence was hardly noticed in Fai’s jamborees.

    The most they and some others of Pakistani origin did was to reluctantly lend their front, to be paid back at home.

    One can be reasonably certain that if the FBI made a thorough investigation, it would find lower level of Pakistanis in the USA who were fronting for Fai and the ISI.

    Similar is the case with the ISI’s Kashmir modules in Europe. The “Justice Foundation – Kashmir Centre” in London was headed by Dr. A. Thakur. After his death Prof. Nazir Ahmed Shawl has taken over. It was officially formed in 2004.

    Cont’s @ Link

  9. Syed Ghulam Nabi Fai Arrested By FBI: Virginia Man Allegedly On Pakistani Spy Payroll

    AP/The Huffington Post First Posted: 7/19/11 02:22 PM ET Updated: 9/18/11 06:12 AM ET

    WASHINGTON — The head of a Washington advocacy group was arrested Tuesday on charges that he’d been on the payroll of Pakistan’s spy
    agency for years and hid millions of dollars used for illegal lobbying.

    Syed Ghulam Nabi Fai, of Fairfax, Va., is the executive director of the Kashmiri American Council, which prosecutors said was being run in secret by the Pakistani government. Prosecutors said Pakistani government officials reviewed Fai’s budget and directed him to make campaign donations to Congress and develop sources at the White House and State Department.

    A second man, Zaheer Ahmad, was also charged. Prosecutors said he recruited people to act as straw donors who would give money that really was coming from the Pakistani government. Ahmad is not under arrest and is in Pakistan, prosecutors said. Both men are U.S. citizens.


    Fai has donated to congressional campaigns of both parties for years. He has donated to President Barack Obama, the National Republican
    Senatorial Committee and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Prosecutors said none of the recipients knew the organization was a front for money from Pakistan.

    Below, the statement issued by the FBI on the matter on Tuesday:

    Cont’s @ Link –

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