Updated, again! Obama’s Parents Planned to Put Him Up for Adoption
© Miri WTPOTUS 2011 UPDATED Twice.
In an amazing turn of events, a reporter for Boston.com alleges that Barack Hussein Obama and Stanley Ann Dunham discussed giving their baby up to the Salvation Army for adoption.
The elder Barack H. Obama, a sophomore at the University of Hawaii, had come under scrutiny by federal immigration officials who were concerned that he had more than one wife. When he was questioned by the school’s foreign student adviser, the 24-year-old Obama insisted that he had divorced his wife in his native Kenya. Although his new wife, Ann Dunham, was five months pregnant with their child – who would be called Barack Obama II – Obama declared that they intended to put their child up for adoption.
Subject got his USC wife ‘Hapai’ [Hawaiian for pregnant] and although they were married they do not live together and Miss Dunham is making arrangements with the Salvation Army to give the baby away,’’ according to a memo describing the conversation with Obama written by Lyle H. Dahling, [sic: Dahlin] an administrator in the Honolulu office of what was then called the US Immigration and Naturalization Service. ….
Dahling’s [sic] memo, dated April 12, 1961, is one of dozens of documents in the elder Obama’s “alien’’ file released by the Department of Homeland Security in response to a Freedom of Information Act request made in the course of research on a biography of Obama’s father. Obama was visiting the United States on a foreign student visa which required him to apply for an annual extension of his stay during the five years he was attending US colleges….
Robert L. Gibbs, the former White House press secretary, said at the time the document was released that President Obama had never been told that his mother had considered putting him up for adoption. Nor, Gibbs said, was Obama previously aware of the INS memo. Gibbs said that the White House had made no effort to determine if Dunham had ever had a conversation with the Salvation Army. The president, he added, “is absolutely convinced that she did not.”
This post will be updated on the fly. I wanted to get it out there asap for your comments. Read it all at the link (if you can. Suddenly, the site is asking for registration. Here’s a new link that should work. A hint: If you can’t read the second page, clear cookies and try again.)
Where exactly was this memo among the immigration files? Did anyone see it? Where was any news story about Robert Gibbs addressing the topic of Barry’s adoption? This is amazing.
Although they were married, Mr. Dahlin referred to Stanley Ann as “Ann Dunham” and “MISS Dunham”? Obama Sr. got his USC wife pregnant. So which USC wife would that be–the one who lived in Hawaii with her parents (allegedly Stanley Ann Dunham) or the USC wife who lived in the Philippines? Which wife was giving a child up for adoption? Could the adoptive mother perhaps be the wife in Hawaii, adopting the child of the wife in the Philippines, as we’ve sometimes speculated?
Sally Jacobs, the author of the article, claims that the couple (Subject Obama and [one of] his USC wives)
obviously, did not put their baby up for adoption.
Oh, no? That remains to be seen. It’s certainly not “obvious” to me. This reporter wrote an autobiography of Barack Hussein Obama (Senior), which is how the memo came to light. But where’s the memo among the previously published file? Because the White House (via Gibbs) learned of the memo, was it withheld by the DHS from other members of the public who requested the same “alien file”? The reporter appears to have given a heads up to the White House. Let the obfuscating begin. All in time for the 2012 election. Two books about Obama’s “parents”.
Previously on WTPOTUS: https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/were-bho-sr-s-immigration-files-doctored/comment-page-1/#comment-56930
https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/bracak-obamas-ins-file-two-wives-and-other-women-everywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-54709
Links to our prior source for these documents: http://www2.az-independent.com/2011/04/27/independent-exclusive-dads-immigration-file-offers-more-evidence-of-obamas-birthplace/
That’s been scrubbed! Try this.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/Barack-Hussein-Obama-Sr-Immigration-File
Refer to page 39 below and also in the set of documents in the above link, which appears to be the April 12, 1961 memo from Dahlin [btw, some reporter and researcher to not have verified the man’s name!] In the version of the memo sent to Smathers, the crucial sentence about adoption (“Subject got his USC wife ‘Hapai’ [Hawaiian for pregnant] and although they were married they do not live together and Miss Dunham is making arrangements with the Salvation Army to give the baby away”) may be exactly what’s been redacted. Did they redact Smathers’s version but not Jacobs’s?
Page 39 BHO Sr.’s Immigration File
UPDATE #2: 07/11/2011: For comparison, below is an image of the full signature of Mr. Lyle H. Dahlin, as it was in 1988.
Page 39 is difficult to read, so it is transcribed below.
MEMO FOR FILE
Mrs. McCabe, University of Hawaii, Foreign Student advisor, called on 4/10/61 and reported that Barack H. Obama, a student at the University since 1959 was married on February 2, 1961 to Stanley Ann Dunham, a United States citizen from Seattle, Washington in Maui, Hawaii. The problem is that when he arrived in the U.S. the subject had a wife in Kenya.
The Subject was born on June 18, 1934 in Kisusu, Nyansa, Kenya, Africa and entered the U.S. at New York, N.Y. on August 9, 1959 as an F student. He has received extension of stay to August 8, 1961 and has received permission to accept employment up to 25 hours per week. He apparently is a bone fide student and Mrs. McCabe states that he is very intelligent.
Mrs. McCabe further states that Subject has been running around with several girls since he first arrived here and last summer she cautioned him about his playboy ways. Subject replied that he would “try” to stay away from the girls.
REDACTED sentences.
Subject told Mrs. McCabe that in Kenya all that is necessary to be divorced is to tell the wife that she is divorced and that constitutes a legal divorce. Subject claims to have been divorced from his wife in Kenya in this method.
Polygamy is not an excludable or [unreadable] or deportation charge as Subject is a non-immigrant and this is waived under 2?(d). If he were convicted of bigamy we might get a deportation charge but not before. Subject is a bone-fide student at present.
Recommend that Subject be closely questioned before another extension is granted –and denial be considered. If his USC wife tries to petition for him make sure an investigation is conducted as to the bone-fide of the marriage.
Lyle H. Dahlin
4-12-61 [Handwritten notation] Mr. Valla advised no action at present but to comply with last paragraph above. LD
Below is page 21 of BHO Sr.’s Immigration File, which mentions the wife in the Philippines:
Here’s a transcription of the hand-written part:
Alien called 4/29/64. Remembered that he worked during the summer of 1963 at Institute of International Marketing, 44-a Brattle Street, Cambridge, Mass. Said his exams are coming up in November 1964. Talked with Miss Frost of Harvard, & she said Harvard authorities think he may be married to someone in Cambridge also. Mr. Henry, Foreign Student advisor, Harvard said he would talk to subject after 5/04?9?/64 re his marital problems. that they had had financial problems with him. that he will call after his talk & let us know whether they want him back next year at Harvard. M. F. McKeon
Updated: July 8, 2011.
The story Jacobs wrote for Boston.com now contains a cropped image of the source for Jacobs’s contention about adoption:
Salvation Army adoption memo
h/t Papoose. This memo was not in that story yesterday, although there appear to be two different links. But WHY do they do these things habitually? WHY do they crop the image? How does that sentence REALLY read? Is it as Ms. Jacobs tells us or is it otherwise?
Could the USC wife and Miss Dunham be different individuals? The wife being the one giving the baby up to the adoptive mother, MISS Dunham? (Or perhaps not DunHAM at all, but Dun? or DAn?.)
Of course, the top of the memo speaks of his supposed marriage to Stanley Ann (Dunham, which we know from the Smathers version) of Washington state, but wasn’t she of Hawaii at that point?
Ms. Jacobs says that the memo reads, “got his USC wife ‘Hapai’ and although they were married they do not live together and Miss Dun…”
Might it really say, “got his USC wife ‘Hapai’ before they were married they do not live together and Miss D…”?
Or “got his USC wife ‘Hapai’ so they never were married they do not live together and Miss D…”
Punctuation is required but missing in all possible versions. Notice how Miss D, whoever she is, appears to be the subject of the rest of the sentence, about how she “is making arrangements” with the Salvation Army. But is that the correct transcription?
Does “is making arrangements” fit on that line? Doesn’t seem so to me. Might it say, “made arrangements?” In which case, it was a done deal?
So what did Miss D do with the Salvation Army? Although the story spins this as if it’s BHO’s doing, Miss D is the person making the arrangements to give the child up. Does this fit with the meme of Stanley Ann Dunham (Ann Obama or MRS. Obama) being a strong type who would not be coerced by anyone, but who would bravely keep her bi-racial child? Doesn’t sound like to me.
Miss D? Could this story at WND provide a clue? Their expert points out that the mother’s signature on Obama’s LFCOLB is in two layers: “(Stanley Ann) D” and “unham Obama”.
Jacobs explains in her story how in the US, in the 60s, interracial marriage was scandal and how a mixed race child would have a hard time getting on, even in Hawaii. Having children out of wedlock was a huge scandal in the ’60s and a prime reason to give a child up for adoption. Given those facts, how likely is it that US officials, BELIEVING that BHO Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham were married, would repeatedly refer to her in official correspondence as MISS Dunham? Why would they not refer to her as MRS. Obama? Or Stanley Ann Obama? Why MISS?
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Is it some kind of trial balloon to create more of a cover story for WHY his records are sealed and can’t be released even under Orly’s subpoena? If Gibbs spoke to this, then where’s the story about his speaking to it? OR is this preparation for the argument that even if adopted and even if born elsewhere, adopted kids can become POTUS if their parents are citizens? It’s a thrown shoe a minute with these obfuscators. What is UP with THIS?
How can this be the cover for sealed records? Here they are saying they wanted to have him adopted..not that he was. So that doesn’t work. It covers for both parents not giving a hoot about him though because they didn’t want him.
I’m wondering if it’s a trial balloon. To see how people react to the possibility of an adoption. Or maybe to set up a big “reveal” but first to garner sympathy for him.
The reporter says “obviously” he wasn’t adopted. But was he or not? Upon what does she base her “obviously?”
What if it’s revealed that he was adopted by Soetoro? This could “explain” his sealed records. Maybe it’s the beginning of a meme that BHO Sr. didn’t care if his son was adopted.
But what if the truth is that Soetoro is the biological father, but SAD was married to BHO Sr., so to become legally Barry’s father, Lolo had to adopt his own son?
If it comes out simply that Barry was adopted, this story about BHO Sr. will fix it in people’s minds that BHO Sr. was the biological father (meaning Barry’s black/white and not Indonesian/white) but BHO Sr. allowed his son to be adopted by her second husband.
I’m just speculating. It’s too hard to think like obfuscators. They always seem to be one step ahead of us. The complicit media helps every step of the way. If Orly’s subpoena is quashed and they use the explanation that adoption records are sealed, then it comes out that he WAS adopted. So maybe they’re preparing the way for the least “embarrassing” rationalization they can invent.
I copied this comment here, from one of our earlier posts on these “alien” files:
Stepgranny in Africa said, when she got her award for 47 years of working with ORPHANS, that “even the president of the US passed through” her hands. AS AN ORPHAN? Could any of the girlfriends or wives have given birth to BHO II, maybe even in Kenya? Yes. Or maybe in the Philippines? Much closer to Hawaii.
Could one of his white USC wives have taken in the child by another mother of this carnival barker of a “husband”, if the birth mother didn’t want him?
It’s said what a big heart SADOS had. It’s said she told girlfriends from high school that she didn’t have to marry to have children–she could ADOPT.
Suppose she met this playboy of the Pacific Rim in college and learned about a girlfriend or wife of his who was having a baby by him but didn’t want the child. Suppose their marriage was a sham so that she could have the child immediately, without going through the legalities. Or what if he really had more than one USC wife and one died in childbirth, so the other took in the child?
Why I mentioned Orly’s subpoenas. She says Hawaii refuses to respond for “privacy” reasons:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/07/07/atty-orly-taitz-files-motion-to-compel-in-social-security-case/
She’s filed a Motion to Compel them to respond to the subpoena signed by the clerk.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/8624319/Barack-Obama-was-almost-put-up-for-adoption.html
A story about this from the UK. He is one of their subjects, after all. Thus their interest.
One almost has to wonder whether they misspell names deliberately to confound Internet researchers.
Was this meant to garner sympathy for his “immigrant” father, considering the calls for amnesty?
More stories hitting the lamestream:
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/176161/20110707/obama-adoption-obama-adopted-obama-birth-certificate-barack-obama.htm
“President Barack Obama’s birth certificate proves he was born in United States, but he came close to growing up in a foster home.” That’s how that story begins.
1. NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE, so NO PROOF WHERE HE WAS BORN. He’s never produced a birth certificate to any court. A digital image is not a birth certificate.
2. FOSTER home?” Not the same as an adoptive home. Where do they get these inaccuracies? And they ridicule the “pajamas media”.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/president_dad_considered_putting_0h46a3mHwX89Eg5nIoa0gI
This one says, “The couple kept the baby, but Obama barely saw his father while he was growing up.”
NO, there never was ANY “COUPLE” to “KEEP” the baby because SAD didn’t even live with BHO Sr. EVER! Documents PROVE that she lived with her parents (see Polk Directories) in August 1961 and that within weeks of the baby’s supposed birth, she and the baby (perhaps, but she most certainly) lived hundreds of miles away from Hawaii, in Seattle, WA. (See Polk Directories and her college records, for PROOF that she attended the U of WA that very autumn, 1961.)
She was in SEATTLE, where Mary Toutonghi allegedly babysat for her, while BHO Sr. was and remained IN HAWAII, until he went to Harvard the following year and SAD returned to Hawaii ONLY AFTER he was gone. No “couple” kept the baby OR raised him.
Our favorite, the UK Dailymail: “As history attests, the couple kept the baby, but the revelation gives a fascinating glimpse into Mr Obama’s relationship with his father, who he barely saw when he was growing up. … Just two years after his son was born, Mr Obama left his family in Hawaii and moved to Harvard, where he married for a third time.”
No such history exists. Quite the opposite. And these are called reporters of fact.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2012242/Barack-Obamas-playboy-father-planned-unborn-son-adoption.html#ixzz1RSPUCEvY
OMG. They reprint some of our favorite photoshopped photos of the fab fantasy family. Time to use that photoshopping primer to detect fraud.
It’s the return of Susan Botkin Blake. Apologist extraordinaire for SADOS. What a crock. Who is this so-called “reporter” who doesn’t report? Gibbs has been gone for a long time. Is this their rationalization to explain all the discrepancies people find in that immigration file? Again, where was this memo all this time? It wasn’t in the records we saw, unless we’re
blinkblind. (Making up my own language. I think we ARE blink!) Could this be the yellow memo referred to but not released by whomever posted the records online?When reading the immigration file it was obvious that pages were missing or what I believe to be true that pages were inserted to make the story. Now we find that Obama was privy to the information that was released, and not all the pages were released. Some were either held back by the Obama regime or the reporters that got the information. Did WND get the identical information that the Boston reporter got or that the reporter from AZ go? It was the Boston reporter that held on to the file for two years.
Either the reporters withheld certain pages or the DHS did or they redacted it on Smathers’s copy but NOT on Jacobs’s. Which is interesting. Does the DHS pick and choose among reporters, based upon who gets access to the WH and will write a commissioned (I mean fawning) biography of Barry’s fab fictional family? If I were Heather Smathers, I’d be asking THAT question. Why, in any case, is the Dept. of Homeland Security the entity responding to this FOIA request? It should go to and come from INS.
I encourage everyone to read our previous posts about these files to update yourselves on what’s already been uncovered on this subject. We’ve done research on much of it. Lyle Dahlin and others. Janny Scott writes a fawning bio of Barry’s “mother” and now Sally Jacobs (JS and SJ, cute!) writes a (doubtless) fawning bio of Barry’s “father”. Coincidence? Fah!
“From the early 20th century through the 1970s the Salvation Army operated nearly a dozen residential maternity homes throughout the United States, one of which was located in Honolulu.”
That’s on page two of the story Jacobs wrote for Boston.com. This begs the question: IS there a Salvation Army maternity home in Washington state or, better yet, in nearby Canada? Salvation Army originated in the UK and operates all over the globe. BHO Sr. was a UK subject.
Further on in the story, they refer to Kezia as Grace Kezia Obama. Did we know that name?
Did you see the name of Kezia? I don’t remember seeing her name as Grace before.
“Obama was still married to his Kenyan wife, Grace Kezia Obama, and apparently worried about the financial burden of another child.”
Great Post Miri, go get um tiger ! 🙂 I just wish I could put my thoughts into words as wonderfully as you do.
Bridge – Yes I belive we found the “Grace” Kezia Obama name quite awhile back. I belive it is on the fabricated family thread.
Can someone check with wordpress, almost everytime I try to post here anymore I get bumped. And im sure its not just me that is getting bumped, anyone else with the same problem? Please let admin. know so it can be corrected. TY
Leza,
What browser are you using? Firefox is preferred with WordPress, I believe. I know News and I use Firefox, and I don’t know about Miri and Renee.
I did a search on all comments for Grace, and nothing turned up for Grace Kezia.
here’s something from 2008
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/13/barackobama.gordonbrown
and this from wiki:
Kezia Obama (Also known as Kezia Aoko[82] and as “Grace”[83][84]). First wife of Barack Obama’s father, born c. 1940. She is Barack Obama Sr.’s first wife, whom he married in Kenya before studying abroad in the United States. She currently lives in Bracknell, Berkshire, England.[85][86] On March 22, 2009 Kezia made a guest appearance on the British television show Chris Moyles’ Quiz Night.[87] Her sister, Jane, is the ‘Auntie Jane’ mentioned at the very start of Dreams from My Father when she telephoned Obama to inform him that his father had been killed in a car accident.[88]
I’ll be darned, I don’t know how we missed it..and it has been around since 2008!
So is it Kezia Grace or Grace Kezia?
B, I belive I posted the comment / link with the name “Grace” Kezia Obama. It was the comment / link where “Grace” Kezia Obama went for a visit to Libya for I belive it was medical treatment with “one” of her sons and a stop to visit Gadhafi. Remember that? It was from an Libyan newspaper article, they addressed her as – Grace Kezia Obama in the article.
Checking out her book more, I see that she explains the meaning of Okoth (born in the rain) and Obama (derived from “bam”, crooked or indirect) and Onyango (born in the morning) but for some reason, no definition of Opiyo–ELDER OF TWINS.
“Crooked or indirect” Could that equal “Club Foot”? “THE BOY WHO WALKED LIKE A DUCK”????????
Amazing, Sally did all this research (?) and yet uses anonymous sources for her material.
I wondered who the “family” was that she asked about this story and it turned out to be the infamous Charles Payne. He is the one that Michelle sat next to during the Normandy memorial in France that Michelle did not even acknowledge as she sat down next to him. Nor did she introduce him to Mrs. Sarkozy who was also seated there. It was that lack of interaction that showed to me that they weren’t related in any way or MO is just a cruel person. [This was on TV live and that is how I saw it.] Charles also was supposedly the one that corrected Obama’s lie about WWII.
Did you notice how she worked in that he seemed unsure even of his own age? My, oh my. The obots read the “birther” blogs and the complicit media toadies go right to work making up excuses. She noticed the discrepancy with the year of Sr.’s birth but not that memo about the WIFE IN THE PHILIPPINES? She glosses the birth date thing over by saying that his family in Kenya say he probably was born in 1936. But don’t we suspect that he suddenly became younger when he went to Harvard and got financial help that was age-specific? He was TOO OLD, so he lied about his age?
“University of Hawaii and federal immigration authorities were already alarmed about Obama’s relationships with women and perplexed as to his marital status. Since his arrival at the university in 1959, Obama had repeatedly failed to complete routine paperwork at UH’s foreign students office regarding his domestic status that would have clarified whether he had a wife in Kenya, according to an employee in the office who declined to be identified.
Even the exact year of his own birth was unclear. Obama alternately reported to immigration and academic officials that he was born in both 1934 and 1936. Although the INS memo records the year of his birth as 1934, Obama’s family members and other records indicate that he was probably born in 1936.
Why can’t she say who she talked too? No one wants to be identified?
Doesn’t BHO Sr. have a birth certificate in Kenya? He worked in the government there but with no birth record? Aren’t there school records for him in Kenya (there ARE, as for his brother Yusef, too). If you’re writing a biography of a man, wouldn’t you first gather ALL documentary evidence you can instead of relying on anonymous family members who say when he “probably” was born? Probably? Nobody knows? His brother is still living. He’d know. Ask him. Maybe she’s keeping it close to her vest so we buy the book. It will be interesting to see the footnotes in her book versus, say, all the documentation in Corsi’s book.
Parts of her book may appear on Amazon..like they did with Corsi’s so I could find relevant information about Lia to see if he cited our blog..which he did. I am glad another known author is questioning Jacob’s work and her ethics of holding information that could discredit Obama. Although, we are quickly discrediting her book now and how she got information. Corsi will probably do it as well. I wonder if one of her sources included Bill Ayers who probably still has an outline of his work, Dreams, so he could help fill in the blanks!
I believe that if you read Janny Scott’s book, you’ll probably find that she withheld important information, too. Both tools. J.S. and S. J. Are these even real people? 🙂
Didn’t Janny Scott write somewhere that Uncle Charlie didn’t want to be interviewed and said something to the effect that everybody’s memories fade with time? He was evasive when questioned about his niece.
Uncle Charlie wasn’t silent when he was saying that Obama was absolutely wrong about his war record. I remember he did a long interview and it ended up in a German paper. ..de speigel. He was used as a prop at the Normandy Memorial.
Remember all that? We’ve probably forgotten more than these asshat so-called journalists ever knew. AS IF they do real research! No, they take what they’re spoonfed and regurgitate it out under the cover of “real journalism”, just in time for the election. Remember when one lamestream news organization accidentally told the truth and published that Indonesian school record for Barry Soetoro? They probably thought they were “helping” him, unless they were Hillary supporters. They learned their lesson well. Now mum’s the word, unless they run it by the Ministry of Disinformation.
Ah yes uncle Charlie. I know it is stereotyping ,but I’ve always felt he was a prop as you say Bridgett. Every time I look at him ,I think he looks like a german spy. So interesting that here ,as you say he turns up in the German newspaper and at Merkel’s Normandy Memorial. Remember that Germanesque photo of Madeline too.
I had a relative married to a german and during the war he was parachuted in behind the lines and infiltrated the german military. He was to impersonate a german officer and gather information, which he did. Isn’t it possible the other way around? Then Uncle Charlie could match my stereotype.
Here’s part of what Uncle Charlie supposedly told Jacobs, “From day one, as far as I could tell, she and Madelyn [Dunham] and Stanley [Dunham] were all completely committed to Barack.”
AS FAR AS HE COULD TELL. And how far was that? Remember the aunt who “remembered” that Ann died in 1970 until she remembered otherwise? How often did Uncle Charlie SEE Mad, Stan, and Annie? Odd that there are so few letters. If he lived in Chicago and they in Hawaii, you’d think there’d be tons of presidential mementoes to share with posterity. I expect that Jacobs’s book will have photos of baby Barry with his father, seeing as how they spent two years together. Baby photos with the proud, beaming father–gazing fondly at his namesake. Can’t wait!
Ha! Bridgette. I just updated my last comment with that. I’m glad you don’t remember it, either. I’m always worrying about my memory. Didn’t sound familiar to me. Interesting name. Almost sounds Quaker. Grace? Was she baptized by Christian Protestants? That story is so full of bull. If Susan Blake knows anything, she has to know that she’s been busted on her tales because it’s proven by documentary evidence that SAD didn’t ever live with her “beloved” with whom she was so much in love. Blake doesn’t say that SAD was living right there in Seattle, close to all her old Mercer Island friends, when her beloved child was only weeks old. How could she say SAD was “excited about her future with” BHO Sr. when she had no present with him, much less future?
But Miri, Sally had all that information from the immigration files when she was writing her book. This now answers my question and the question of others as to why the immigration files weren’t produced two years ago..she WAS writing a book. I questioned the validity of those documents, and I still do. The pertinent memo about Obama being a child of them didn’t ring true since he wasn’t mentioned anywhere else, yet BHO sr’s other son was. I say to Sally to produce the pages that she is quoting from that weren’t released.
Her investigation included talking to the former press liar, Robert Gibbs! As though he has answers. The WH didn’t want to investigate and talk to the Salvation Army to see if little BHO was considered a candidate for adoption?
I caught that, too. They didn’t bother to investigate to see if the Salvation Army considered handling little orphan Barry. And the Salvation Army has no comment. The memo in question does seem to present all the right “facts”. What’s interesting to me is that Smathers reported Lyle Dahlin’s name as Dahlim and Jacobs reported it as “Dahling”, when it’s not that hard to find that his name was DAHLIN. What sort of reporters are these that can’t even get names straight? But they know to insert things like “US CITIZEN” wife, and “ANN” Dunham and “from Seattle, Washington” and the date of the marriage and then later, “Stanley Ann Dunham.” All too pat. Just like Jacobs’s story where she inserts crucial points that seem apropos of nothing. Like “February 1961” (date of the presumed marriage), “dark-eyed Ann Dunham”, how BHO Sr. left blank the parts of forms asking for names of wife and children (trying to explain away why no mention of little Barry, only DAYS after he was supposedly born, that letter he wrote Mboya, mentioning Kezia but not Ann and little Barry, but leaving out ALL mention of the wife in the Philippines. I wonder if Jacobs will have images of these so-called “real documents” obtained from DHS via FOIA in her book?
I have been out quite a bit, but also I haven’t been able to post anyway. something with the site. wouldn’t let me post both email and name in the post comments. also can’t reply properly either. won’t let me reply where I try to. so sorry if my comments seem out of order.
One of you mentions Grace and yes I remember seeing Grace way back. took me awhile to even get all the shifting names straight. But another Grace comes to mind when I see your comment Miri(I think it was you). Just recently I went back and checked something on the Nordykes, because I still say there is something suspicious with that whole family. Eleanor’s connection to HI’s East West center, her books on Hawaii ancestry , her twin daughters and their birth certificates……and Hey, she’s someone in this story that is still living(at least I think she is). Well, because I found that Jonathan Boyne fellow, a librarian(among other things) using Mrs. Nordykes 2055 Kakela Drive address, then found him at another address in an apartment around the corner from Kakela, I just kept digging. There is too much to appropriately say about Jonathan and all the associations,so I leave that can of worms for another time. But, I went back and checked out all over Kakela drive and some interesting things happened. I did reverse addresses as well. Seems the Nordykes also live at 1939 Kakela drive and 2005 Kakela drive . That is only the half of it. Robert Nordyke Grace lives at another address on Kakela. And mary ellen Grace and the whole dang Nordyke family with skewed names and the name Grace is used as a last name. Why, Why, Why. There are some other anomalies as well. Remember there was a Grace Nordyke? There is also a Grace Nor, Ellen Nor , Rober Nor and so on at different Kakela drive addresses. I will have to look for my info as I wrote all this down. It was too much and too confusing for me to just save. There are some other names at these addresses as well that make no sense or relation to this Nordyke family , but seem mysterious.A Shirley Nordyke and A James putnam Nordyke listed with these people as well as a Michelle Nordyke.
Sumi McCabe. Did we have her first name before? Jacobs can find Sumi’s name but doesn’t know Mr. Dahlin’s. I’m sure I linked to documents with the correct spelling of his name. Earlier stories called him Dahlim.
Oh, she covers all the bases. She must read WND, too, because she “explains” that letter he wrote to Kenya (Mboya?) referring to his wife and kids THERE IN Kenya, but no mention of the family here.
Look for this upcoming book to be a load of you know what. Maybe Ayers wrote this one, too.
That memo has to be page 39 of Smathers’s release. Either the DHS redacted that crucial sentence about adoption or Smathers did. I wonder if she’ll tell the world which is the case?
Jacobs ends her story this way, “The following year, [1962] Obama left his small family in Honolulu and headed to Harvard University to pursue a doctorate in economics. While in Cambridge, Obama would not only meet his third wife, but the question of how many wives he had would spiral into a confrontation with devastating consequences.”
Oh. That’s a set up so you buy her book! This paragraph tells you all you need to know about how true her biography will be.
He didn’t leave his “small family” in Honolulu, unless it’s another family NOT consisting of Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama II. He might have had another small family consisting of the wife who was in the Philippines and other children by her. Or perhaps Ruth and one of her children. Or maybe Grace Kezia was in Honolulu with Auma and Roy.
But he didn’t leave Stanley Ann and Barack in Honolulu because THEY WERE LIVING IN SEATTLE from SEPT. 1961 UNTIL WELL AFTER BHO SR. WENT TO HARVARD. That’s PROVEN.
Gosh..two years to write this gem of an embellishment of the family history! Did she find out who Ruth really is? No mention of Ruth…nor who the woman was that was living in the Philippines!.
Now that would be news, wouldn’t it? TELL US WHO RUTH IS, MS. JACOBS. Enquiring minds would love to know. I wonder if she even interviewed Ruth?
Once upon a time, there was butcher, a candlestick maker and a
Ruth Ndesandjo Born Ruth Beatrice Baker, in US c. 1937, to Maurice Joseph Baker and Ida Baker of Newton, Massachusetts.[105] Ruth was a 1954 graduate of Brookline High School in Brookline, Massachusetts, and a 1958 graduate of Simmons College in Boston with a degree in business.[105] Ruth was a suburban elementary school teacher when she met and began dating Barack Sr. in Cambridge in June 1964, a month before Barack Sr.’s return to Kenya in August 1964.[105] Ruth followed Obama Sr. back to Kenya five weeks later, and married Barack Obama Sr. in Kenya in a civil ceremony on December 24, 1964.[105] Barack Sr.’s third wife and later a private kindergarten director in Kenya.[106] Ruth’s two sons with Barack Obama, Sr., are Mark and David Ndesandjo; her third son, Joseph Ndesandjo, was born c. 1980 from a subsequent marriage to a Tanzanian man named Ndesandjo.[107][108]
Another 27 year old mysterious playmate according to this math
Wow Papoose.. She has been hiding in plain site at Wiki! TY TY … you solved the mystery! You got a two fer today already!
Please add your two finds to the O Timeline so they don’t get lost.
I just checked, not hiding that long. It was added to Wiki on July 6…and the source was..our fine Ms. Jacobs. We will have to see if she documents her information.
105# ^ a b c d Jacobs, Sally H. (2011). The other Barack: the bold and reckless life of President Obama’s father. New York: Public Affairs. pp. 160–161, 165, 172–174, 177, 187–190, 193–196, 199–202, 226–227, 230–231, 247. ISBN 1586487930.
106# ^ “Madari Kindergarten”. http://www.madarikindergarten.com/. [Did Ms. Jacobs find this information at WTPOTUS? I’d bet on it!!]
107# ^ “Welcome To MedWeek San Antonio 2007”. Medweeksa.org. http://www.medweeksa.org/awardwinners/techfirm.htm. Retrieved January 31, 2009. [There is nothing at this citation!]
108# ^ “PIDE – Partners for International Development & Education Inc”. Pideafrica.org. http://pideafrica.org/aboutus.htm. Retrieved January 31, 2009.[This is about Joseph]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Barack_Obama
it all depends when they added it …. maybe on the same day they inserted that floating note stating the newlyweds were planning to “give” their non-existant kid to the Salvation Army. (good one, barky!)
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though i gotta say I did see a picture today of barky where he looks an awful like – and I mean awful, like his big sister.
Totally unexpected! Rofl !
Ruthie Beatrice was added to the Wiki page by “Newross” on 7/6/2011. I wonder if that’s when Google books posted the preview or whether this guy got an advance copy? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Family_of_Barack_Obama&diff=prev&oldid=437977202
Papoose and Bridgette: Did you notice that when Ruth lived in Kenya with BHO Sr., she got a job at The Nation newspaper? Did we know that before? Explains their hanging out with Otieno (was that his name? Sheesh. Ancient history for us and our research and too many details to remember and obfuscations to TRY to reconcile.)
Do you get the feeling, and I’m sure you do, that they just read our blog and others like Free Republic, which pointed out the discrepancies, inconsistencies and moments of cognitive dissonance and then they commissioned Jacobs and probably Janny, too, to “explain” them all away?
What we need is a computer program, with OCR software, that can load all this bullcr** into a database and then blow their lies out of the water. Any tech geniuses care to apply for that job? You may not get a Pulitzer or a Nobel Prize, but you’ll be guaranteed the ever-lasting gratitude of We the People.
Miri…remind me or this will remind me..but weren’t some of the early articles about Obama saying he was born in Kenya published by The Nation?
Ruthie got a job as a secretary at the Nation newspaper in Kenya
Philip Ochieng, once a columnist for the Nation – friend of BHO Sr.
https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/obama%e2%80%99s-huge-fabricated-family-2/comment-page-1/#comment-31287
https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/obama%e2%80%99s-huge-fabricated-family-2/comment-page-1/#comment-31087
https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/obama%e2%80%99s-huge-fabricated-family-2/comment-page-2/#comment-31299
Those are where I found some stuff on Ochieng. You’ll have to back up to find what set me off! Ali found some of this.
Not only was he supposedly a friend of BHO Sr., he’s a friend of Ruth’s second husband the unidentified Tanzanian. And he was a columnist for The Nation and Ruthie worked there, too. But remember, too, that his daughter is a CONSERVATIVE blogger and a Luo? She’s the one who gives information about Luo naming customs. Juliette Ochieng.
Sorry. Didn’t answer your question. I can’t remember if The Nation reported he was born there, but they reported a lot on the family. Including that story where Granny Sarah said President Obama PASSED THROUGH HER HANDS AS AN ORPHAN.
While looking for the reference you asked about, I found a comment where YOU found yet another permuatation of KEZIA’S name: Kezia Nyandega
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/A+short+history+of+the+US+Presidents+father++/-/1056/1115044/-/item/0/-/11no9jg/-/index.html
If you search comments for http://www.nation.co.ke, you’ll see all the times we’ve linked to that paper.
oh, I think you are right, Bridgette. I remember our inside group working 72 hours straight (during the East Coast blizzard) finding these tidbits.
My computer blew up after some remote mole took charge of my cursor.
A blizzard it was…and Leza found Madari Kindergarten. Ms. Jacobs..will you cite our blog and Leza et al?
Leza | January 3, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Madari Kindergarten
Mrs. Ruth Ndesandjo (Headmistress)
https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/11/16/the-obama-family-saga-continues/com
Way to go, Papoose! I’m offline for one day and all kinds of interesting info comes a-rolling in! It’s on Google Books already, not yet released:
http://books.google.com/books?id=EHw1Jy4ZvcYC&printsec=frontcover&dq=isbn:1586487930&hl=en&ei=7QQaTo6oDpKFsgLPuszBBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=ruth%20beatrice&f=false
Lots of photos, many the usual ones. Just glancing at the pages that are previewed about “Ann”, I spot within an instant yet another of Blake’s prevarications. Page 117, Susan Blake, speaking of SADOS (Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro), Blake implies that while in HIGH SCHOOL “Ann” talked about becoming an anthropologist and how she, Blake, didn’t even know what that was. SADOS got her undergraduate degree in MATH. Odd major for someone who wants to be a cultural anthropologist. It’s the same old, same old fables. About SADOS wearing shorts and muumuus to school. How she was dating BHO Sr. within weeks of starting class and hey! She wrote Susie Botkin Blake ALL ABOUT IT. Right. Happen to have those letters, Susie?
Read page 118, the girl who sat quietly beside BHO Sr. at parties sounds suspiciously like “Ann USA”–the ASIAN girl–and most certainly not like outspoken Stanley Ann Dunham.
You know, she might have written something ORIGINAL. It is the same stuff we’ve heard over and over and over. Right down to Madelyn saying BHO Sr. was “straaaaange.”
You’ll really LOL at page 125, Blake provides the rationale for why SADOS didn’t change baby Barry’s diaper: Her mother had been doing it up until then! I wonder who SADOS talked into doing the dirty work on the plane flight to Seattle in August 1961? Conveniently for Blake, she “lost touch” with SADOS after that one afternoon, 3 weeks after Barry was born.
We’re expected to believe that they were in touch the entire time that SADOS was dating, marrying, giving birth to BHO Sr.’s son, in HAWAII, but once SADOS moved BACK to Seattle and went to the U of WA., she didn’t speak to Blake again. That’s convenient, isn’t it? That way, BLAKE doesn’t have to explain the Capitol Hill apartment and the Toutonghi babysitter or why SADOS waited to return to Hawaii until BHO Sr. was at Harvard. But Jacobs TRIES to explain Toutonghi, even her “toddler” and that she was pregnant, a FACT also mentioned, iirc, on this blog or Free Republic, even though all during the time Toutonghi was out there, being interviewed, SHE HERSELF NEVER PLACED HER PREGNANCY WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME, which would seem to be a logical thing to do, if it were true.
Jacobs wants us to believe, however, that Ann and Barry returned to Honolulu and spent time with BHO Sr., before she AGAIN went to Seattle for college and before he graduated. This is apparently cover for Abercrombie’s tales of seeing them together in Honolulu with baby Barry. For this tale, she turns up a now-84-year-old guy who remembers a conversation with BHO Sr. about how hard it was to take the stares of racists when they saw him walking the streets with his white wife.
This is part two (three or four) of the fantasy life of Barry Soetoro and his fab fantasy family. Jacobs, who alone appears to have gotten the UNREDACTED INS files for BHO Sr., is trying so hard to cover all the bases and ALL THE LIES AND DISCREPANCIES in one fell swoop. It would be laughable if it weren’t so scary, unethical, not to mention corrupt (on the part of those supposedly being transparent and FAIR in responding to FOIA requests). Smathers didn’t get the unredacted memo, nor did Mr. Allen, apparently, because they would have reported the truth of the story before the covering lie could be invented. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
I’ve been reviewing an article about BHO Sr. by Jacobs from 2008. In that article, she cites an interview of BHO Sr. by the Honolulu Advertiser, in which he states how amazed he was by the LACK OF RACIAL PREJUDICE IN HAWAII. Now this EXACTLY contradicts what she writes in her book, about how BHO Sr. commiserated with a (suddenly found) now-very-elderly acquaintance, at a party, about the prejudice each black guy faced (the stares) when they went out in public with their non-black wives. So what are we to believe?
“In a 1959 interview with the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, Obama, described the absence of racial prejudice in Hawaii as ‘unique.’ No one, he marveled,
‘seems to be conscious of color.'”
That’s what Jacobs wrote in 2008. NOW, she says he and Ann had to endure racist stares, WHEN SHE WANTS TO BACK UP THE LIE THAT THEY WERE A COUPLE, SEEN AT PARTIES WITH BABY BARRY, BACKED UP BY A SUDDENLY DISCOVERED OLD GUY WHO REMEMBERS A CHANCE CONVERSATION FROM NEARLY 50 YEARS AGO!
Which is it, Jacobs? Did he face prejudice or not?
May as well put all the discrepancies from that 2008 Jacobs article here:
“At the time of his death at age 46 in 1982…”
[In 1959,] “Obama was 23 when he boarded a Britannia aircraft, bound for the United States. ”
“Obama arrived in Cambridge on a brisk fall day in 1962 and swiftly established himself. Then 29, Obama rented an apartment …”
[SO WHEN WAS HE BORN? MAKE UP YOUR MIND!]
“Obama met another woman. Her name was Ruth Nidesand, a teacher and a person of some means.” [A PERSON OF SOME MEANS? HOW SO?]
BHO Sr. and SADOS “divorced in 1964. The following year, Obama returned to Africa with Nidesand and the couple were soon married.” [HER BOOK SAYS THEY MARRIED IN KENYA IN 1964.]
“He would show us Barry’s certificate from school, his report card, things like that,” Sayid Obama, Obama Sr.’s brother, said in a telephone interview from Kogelo, a village in western Kenya. “Once he showed us pictures of him playing basketball in college.” [I’d like to see ANY of those items. Did Barry play B-ball in COLLEGE?]
“Frustrated that his skills were not being used, he began to drink more heavily and had a series of alcohol-related car accidents, one of which resulted in the death of another driver.” [This is seldom emphasized. He was guilty of negligent homicide, at best. His drunk driving KILLED another person. But he got away with it.]
“During a visit from his old school friend, Zane, in 1974 … Zane was astonished at the transformation in his once vibrant friend, who had been divorced by his third wife a year before.” [So when did Ruth and BHO Sr. divorce? 1973? Or 1971? They married end of ’64 and it lasted 7 years. Do the math and make up your mind, Sally. What a difference a year can make.]
“in the late 1970s he fathered his eighth child” [George?]
FOB’s (Friends of Barack Sr.):
“Paul Nyangani, 66 [in 2008], an uncle of Tom Mboya’s and friend of Obama’s.”
“Richard Hook [80 in 2008], who worked with Obama in the late 1970s as a development adviser for Harvard University’s Institute for International Development in Kenya.”
“Philip Ochieng, a Kenyan journalist who was a member of the airlift along with Obama. ” [Another lie! BHO Sr. wasn’t part of the airlift.]
“Pake Zane, 66 [in 2008], who attended the University of Hawaii with Obama.” [SO PAKE ZANE AND PAUL NYANGANI WERE ABOUT SAME AGE AS SADOS, not BHO Sr.]
“Frederick Okatcha, a professor of psychology at Kenyatta University who attended Yale University in the mid 1960s, recalls that a group of Africans attending universities on the East Coast would gather in New York, often at the former West End Bar near Columbia University.”
“Leo Odera Omolo, a journalist and drinking buddy of Obama’s, who lives in Kisumu, a port city in Kenya.”
“Clive Gray, a fellow at the Harvard Institute for International Development … recognized Obama from his Harvard days, although he had not known him. …Gray, who lives in Greensboro, Vt.” [Not a friend, but he “recognized” him.]
[Now Governor of Hawaii Neil] “Abercrombie thinks a bit about his old friend Barack Obama Sr. these days … He has never told Senator Barack Obama of the times he spent with his father, or that he knew him as a tiny baby in Hawaii.” [AS A TINY BABY IN HAWAII? Hardly. Check out this story about Abercrombie:
http://www.biographicon.com/view/g0lrm/Neil_Abercrombie
“Abercrombie was born in Buffalo, New York to Vera June and Donald Abercrombie. Upon graduating from Williamsville High School (now Williamsville South High School), he went on to pursue studies at Union College in Schenectady, New York. There, Abercrombie obtained his bachelor’s degree in 1959 and his master’s degree in 1964. He moved to Honolulu, Hawaii to become a public school teacher at various elementary and high schools in the Hawaii State Department of Education.” HOW CAN ABERCROMBIE BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONCE? By 1964, BHO Sr. was GONE from Hawaii. Barry was 3 years old. And, ACCORDING TO JANNY SCOTT, Ann and Lolo were married! http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/magazine/mag-24Obama-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
Why would Abercrombie be in Hawaii in 1961, partying down with BHO Sr., Ann, and “tiny baby” Barry?]
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/us/politics/18memoirs.html?adxnnl=1&ref=thelongrun&adxnnlx=1310933639-eKhuLFsJEZ9DIBgnICnFZQ&pagewanted=all
A Janny Scott article from 2008 about Barry’s fantasy memoirs. An amazing thing, or not: Peter Osnos involved in publishing Barry’s books. Osnos. Founder and editor of the publisher of Sally Jacobs bio of BHO Sr.! https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/07/07/breaking-news-obamas-parents-planned-to-put-him-up-for-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-58716
Soros connected, too. What a surprise! Michael W. McConnell must have changed his mind about Barry’s brilliance. What a coinkidink. I just linked to an article by McConnell, where he points out that Barry and Congress are ignoring the LAW on budgets and the debt limit, yet he’s mentioned in this article from 2008 saying Barry’s a genius. https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/07/07/breaking-news-obamas-parents-planned-to-put-him-up-for-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-58716
And here’s another Janny Scott article from 2008 about SADOS:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/us/politics/14obama.html?ref=thelongrun&pagewanted=all
Discrepancies/inaccuracies/factoids:
“My mother died of cancer at 53,” he says in the ad, which focuses on health care. “In those last painful months, she was more worried about paying her medical bills than getting well.”
“Her parents were from Kansas — her mother from Augusta, her father from El Dorado.”
“Stanley Ann (her father wanted a boy so he gave her his name) was born on an Army base during World War II.” [Or St. Francis Hospital in Wichita or in Sedgwick, KS]
“In 1963, Mr. Obama left for Harvard, leaving his wife and child. She then married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian student. When he was summoned home in 1966 after the turmoil surrounding the rise of Suharto, Ms. Soetoro and Barack followed.” [1962?]
“By 1974, Ms. Soetoro was back in Honolulu, a graduate student and raising Barack and Maya, nine years younger. Barack was on scholarship at a prestigious prep school, Punahou. When Ms. Soetoro decided to return to Indonesia three years later for her field work, Barack chose not to go.”
“Barack spent summers and Christmas vacations with his mother; they communicated by letters.”
“Fluent in Indonesian, Ms. Soetoro moved with Maya first to Yogyakarta, the center of Javanese handicrafts. … inspired her study of village industries, which became the basis of her 1992 doctoral dissertation.” [When was it published?]
“She became a consultant for the United States Agency for International Development on setting up a village credit program, then a Ford Foundation program officer in Jakarta specializing in women’s work. Later, she was a consultant in Pakistan, then joined Indonesia’s oldest bank to work on what is described as the world’s largest sustainable microfinance program, creating services like credit and savings for the poor.”
FOS’s [Friends of SADOS]:
“Georgia McCauley, who became a friend of Ms. Soetoro in Jakarta.”
“Alice G. Dewey, an anthropologist and friend.” [A family trait: Some believe Alice wrote SADOS’s dissertation for her, posthumously.]
“Nina Nayar, who later became a close friend of Ms. Soetoro.”
“Susan [Botkin] Blake: ‘She had a world view, even as a young girl.'”
“Nancy Barry, a former president of Women’s World Banking, an international network of microfinance providers, where Ms. Soetoro worked in New York City in the early 1990s.”
“David S. McCauley, now an environmental economist at the Asian Development Bank in Manila, who had the office next door. [Ford Foundation]”
“Ms. Soetoro-Ng, who earned a Ph.D. in comparative education and works as a teacher.” MAYA
http://www.politicalarticles.net/blog/2008/11/21/obama%e2%80%99s-dad-and-his-many-loves/
This is an old story that Leza reported on on the Fab Family thread. But it has some interesting factoids and discrepancies in it, too:
“Known as Barry “Wuod Akumu Nyanjoga” (the son of Akumu daughter of Njoga), Obama Sr towered over his peers with authority.”
“By the time of his death, names of his friends read like who was who in the Government. President Kibaki was among the top politicians who topped in Obama Sr’s list of friends.”
“…former Kisumu deputy Mayor Benjamin Okang’ Tolo. In 1978, Tolo hosted a party for him in Kisumu to appreciate his academic achievements. “It was a big party and many of his friends were at my house. On that day he brought with him a beautiful woman known as Jael, who was to become his fourth wife,” says Tolo…. he knew Obama Sr when he worked for BP/Shell in Nairobi.”
“Hundreds of senior politicians and friends attended his emotional burial in 1982. Luo leaders present were the former Foreign Affairs Minister, the late Robert Ouko and former Education Minister Oloo Aringo, among others. A former political detainee and a long time aide to the late opposition leader Jaramogi Oginga Odinga, Mr Odungi Randa, who met Obama Sr on many occasions, says the economist, was cut for bigger things. … “Mboya took Obama Sr to America. His son is now the US President. Jaramogi took Raila Odinga and others to Germany, Russia and other Eastern block countries. Raila is the Prime Minister,” he says.”
“… Mzee Sebastian Peter Okoda; a former senior Government official, who shared his residential house in Nairobi with him for a year. Okoda and Obama Sr stayed in the same flat at Dolphin Court Flats near Caledonian Shopping Centre. He says that when he joined the Treasury in December 1974, he was given a Government house where he stayed with his wife. … The duo lived together from 1976 to February 1977 in Flat 5; a three-bed room house reserved for senior Government officers. … he was 45 then and they were age-mates.” [Okoda was 70 in 2008, according to the story. So how old was BHO Sr. in 1976, if the same age as Okoda?]
“Obama’s first wife Kezia and eldest son Abong’o Malik visited them at the residence.”
“Among his friends, the old man remembers, was former Cabinet Minister Nicholas Biwott, who was then Personal Assistant to the VP and now retired President Moi.”
“He also remembers Mr Joseph Kipsanai, the then under-secretary, fiscal and monitoring division at the Treasury and Mr J B Omondi, the then deputy secretary at the External Aid department in the Ministry of Finance and Planning.” [Gee. No wonder he got away with vehicular drunken homicide.]
“The duo parted ways when Okoda was transferred to Nyeri to become the Personal Assistant to the then Central PC Simeon Nyachae. Since he had to hand over the house to the Government, Obama moved to Mawenzi Gardens (Upper Hill).”
“Barack Hussein Obama Sr was born in the sun-baked terrains of Kanyadhiang’ village, Rachuonyo District in 1936. His father, Onyango Obama, who later moved to settle in Alego-Kogelo in Siaya District, was a colonial cook. Those who knew him say it was because of his hard-line domestic policies that turned his children into achievers. Although he and his son Obama Sr were buried in Kogelo, where his stepmother Sarah Obama and other family members live, Onyango spent his early life in Karachuonyo. Onyango was recruited to fight in the Second World War. When he returned, he had converted to Islam and acquired the name Hussein. His first wife — Akumu Nyanjoga — the mother to Obama Sr died, and he married Sarah Ogwel — the now popular granny who brought up Obama Sr. Obama Sr was the second born in a family of four. It was in Karachuonyo where Obama Sr married his first wife, Kezia in 1956. “We met at a party on December 25. I was 16 and he was about 20. He picked me among many girls. We danced and a relationship blossomed,” Kezia says. Obama Sr loved education and politics. He had his early education at Gendia Primary School, near Kendu Bay, before moving to Ng’iya Intermediate School in Siaya. He capped it at the Maseno School, where teachers described him as an exceptionally bright student. Records at the Maseno School show Obama Sr was promoted from class B to A because of his good grades. He was 23 when he was shortlisted for the famous airlifts to the US. The road accident that killed him was the second. He had earlier broken his legs in another accident.”
It’s driving me nuts that the other day, I saw a story that named the person who died in the car crash. He was in the passenger seat. The story named the type of car (fast sports car, iirc) and the person who died. If I ever find it again, I’ll link it.
So now we’ve learned that Ruth had to have been close to 43 when Joseph was born. She was born in 1937, making her much closer in age to BHO Sr. than SADOS was. She was pushing 30 when she had Mark. Then what, about 34 when David (and his twin?) comes along. Then a big gap until Joseph comes along. Seems to me I recall some conversation that there was at least one other son, but that might have been long ago before we learned about Joseph. I have always thought that NONE of her supposed kids resembled her.
Oh, I remember now. It was the UTN (unidentified Tanzanian Ndesandjo) who had more than one child with Ruth, according to at least one story I saw. So maybe there was another born within that gap between David and Joseph.
Miri, you just made me think of something….Maybe the reason it was important to even Put David Ndesandjo in this story was just to fill in so much gap between kids. The one and only photo of David was going to be removed by Wicki…Never really checked to see if they did. I knew they might so I saved the photo of him. You had the photo but it had something across the front. I tried to send my copy but unsucessful. I have had another photo that I haven’t seen posted in a long time and I don’t think has ever been seen with a major photo glich(the one with Obama with three legs) I have tried every way I know how to post that but to no avail.I found it long, long ago.
While this is a nice story, Ruth Ndesandjo it was stated was born 1940-1941. It was in the first stories of the interviews with Ruth. Ruth says however,don’t ask me about my age, but says she has been a teacher hers since about 1980’s at this lovely kindergarten by my Tanzanian husband. The 1940-41 date , I think also was the first thing that Wickipedia had on her. And of course it was Nidesand, not Baker. I am telling you, there is a very important reason to remove Ms. Ndesandjo far from any true timeline, just like with Mark insistant on not telling when he was born, but just says he is younger than Barack. There is no reason to hide anything here……..IS There??? Ms. Sally Jacobs ironing out the bad wrinkles in her stories and she’s not even doing a good job of it.
Who were all the other free lance ladies Obama Sr was rollicking on the beach with?
“The memo advised that officials should continue to monitor the senior Obama’s personal life, and raised concerns about his behavior, noting that the previous summer he had been warned about his “playboy ways.’’
Could it be one or more of the “ladies” Obama promised to stay away from could also be foriegn exchange student(s)? Maybe Obama is part African, part Chinese, Indonesian, Phillipino, or whatever. For certain he isn’t an 100% “Natural Born Citizen” of America. There may be no American blood in his viens at all.
You got it, Harvey. Way back when, I read something about him having several blonde girlfriends in Hawaii, neither of whom could possibly have been Stanley Ann of the wavy dark hair. But Ruth is/was blonde.
Smathers says she got the records from “the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service”. Jacobs said she got them from DHS. Wasn’t Napolitano supposedly eyeballing all FOIA requests for a while? I wonder if that explains it? Smathers sent her request prior to Napolitano’s oversight being shut down and Jacobs’s came after? Plausible deniability. Too pat, but by any means necessary, they will “explain” the inexplicable.
It’s page 21 of BHO Sr.’s file that mentions the wife in the Philippines as well as Kezia. I added it to the post; see above. Notice how that page talks about a wife in Kenya, a wife in Honolulu, and a wife in the Philippines. That makes three.
Question for the blog…who did the redacting? How did Sally get to see the redacted parts? For example, information about the Salvation Army? Did she do the redacting of the information and only release parts of the information from the file? Did WND and the AZ reporter get access to redacted information too? I questioned before..are the three copies that were supposedly released the same?
Bridgette: We’re back to the redaction codes! B(6) on both pages. (Not shown in our cropped images. Sorry. To see them, hit the link for the Scribd file.)
“(b)(6) EXEMPTION 6:
Personal Information Affecting an Individual’s Privacy.
This exemption permits the government to withhold all information about individuals in “personnel and medical files and similar files” when the disclosure of such information ” would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.” This exemption cannot be invoked to withhold from a requester information pertaining to the requester.”
h/t Bridgette, who looked it up before. So the information about this possible adoption, for Smathers only, was considered an invasion of privacy. Ditto for whatever the first line on page 21 said. And yet, Ms. Jacobs was privy to that line from Mr. Dahlin’s memo. How and why and not Ms. Smathers?
A woman in the USA had identical twins but felt she could not keep them and put them up for adoption.
One was adopted by a Spanish couple and renamed Juan,
and the other by Turkish parents and renamed Amal.
Years passed.
Out of the blue the woman received a letter from Spain thanking her and enclosing a picture of Juan.
She broke into tears and said to her husband “I wish I could see our other son”
He tried to comfort her.
He said “They are identical twins,
If You’ve seen Juan you’ve seen Amal”
That’s too funny, Dave M. Thanks for the comic relief.
further comic relief with a political edge
http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/
try it
I remember now what bothered us about these memos before: It’s not so much the typed parts but the hand-written parts that seem to add the crucial (possibly obfuscating) information to the storyline. What say u? What about Mr. McKeon’s two signatures on page 21? Second is nearly illegible. A forgery? Was this addition recently made to the original memo on file? Where, btw, is the memo talked about on page 21 that’s written on yellow paper?
From CW’s An interesting comment.
Lillibet | July 7, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
Obama’s internet police cannot stop me from posting what I know to be the truth because it happened in 1970 and 1971. Here is my comment on their site today at 1:04 PM EDT on the link you provided. [Boston news adoption story].
The FBI will not investigate the fact that Barry visited Decatur, IL in 1971 and admitted that he was not born in this country, but wanted to be President of the United States regardless of that admission. He didn’t have a SSN and asked someone I know how he could obtain one without a birth certificate because he claimed not to have a birth certificate either. The older sister of a friend had SDS/hippie connections and someone in her circle offered a CT mailing address to Barry. Barry stayed with a drug dealer and his family for a few weeks before going north for important meetings (Chicago?).
Tim Geithner and his sister and mother visited Decatur, IL in the summer of 1970, and Audie Geithner attended school with Barry. Barry studied the Koran and dressed in Muslim garb.
Tim knew all of Barry’s many, many names and his impending move to HI. Tim and Audie also spoke of their father’s fear that something would upset his plan if they visited the mainland. Mrs. Geithner saw the children talking about Barry in my presence and began yelling that they had been forbidden to speak about certain things and had disobeyed her and their father.
I have tried to alert the FBI, but was told they consider the election settled a political question and they are not authorized to investigate this matter.
With billions of dollars of debt, our economic viability and national security hanging in the balance, this President’s overtures to the Muslim Brotherhood and his troubling ties to enemies of America, I ask what could be more important than this controversy?
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/07/07/william-cellini-trial-chicago-businessman-the-pope-of-illinois-politics-bill-cellini-101-cellini-101-cellini-blagojevich-rezko-levine-obama/
yep, also, this person blogged on New Zeal and I posted those comments here a few weeks back. The commentor signed in as Anonymous and Trevor asked for the person to contact him. I don’t know the outcome.
In addition to the many names, barky claimed to be older than he actually was, unless he was telling the truth for once in his life.
I have often wondered if Martin Didier was involved at this point in time.
Found the comments here:
http://trevorloudon.com/2011/02/niall-ferguson-on-obamas-handling-of-egypt/
I thought it might be Marty that wrote that using a new name. I remember that you wrote about those comments at New Zeal. I don’t remember that exact story though from Marty.. Obama dressed in Muslim garb in the 1970 time frame? I wonder if that is when he got involved with that one group..forgot the name. begins with a G. They sang songs and prayed to Obama during the election in 2008.
was it the Gamiel Foundation, B?
that’s where he received his novitiate rites and subsequently ordained.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/obama-and-gamaliels-freak-show-faith-hijacking-strategy.html
YES..that is it! The freak Gamaliels! We did lots of research on that weird group.
Here are a couple of your previous comments re Lillibet
Papoose | April 29, 2011 at 7:10 pm
https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/bracak-obamas-ins-file-two-wives-and-other-women-everywhere/#comments
Papoose | January 29, 2011 at 9:10 am
https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/11/16/the-obama-family-saga-continues/comment-page-4/#comments
Marty Didier has posted thru the years on numerous blogs. I would read his comments at CW and then he would show up at Cannonfire. I got curious one day this past winter and Googled his name.
In a comment on 10-15-07, he states that he was in a family for 26 years that became a money-launndering unit. …….”The family’s job is to launder “Drug and Gun Running” money straight into property for those involved.”
In this same comment he says…”a White House Coup that has been in the works for decades with small changes to our Government system in preparation for what they call “The Change”.
(snip) “When the CHANGE COMES, you’re either with us OR you’re NOT!”
(snip) “They call it “The Change”, but the Coup has been on going for decades preparing for when the Change will happen. The family mentioned that an Economic Collapse is the start for “The Change” and will start with a collapse of the Housing Industry mixed with the Banking Industry.”
It’s rather chilling when you read about gun running, Change, and economic collapse in a comment dated in 2007!
I have printed many more of Marty’s comments like one in 2005 where he states …”Organized Crime structure is to launder money straight into property. The property is hidden using Mortgage Fraud techniques.”
That was a good one..and Marty has commented on different blogs for a long time. I remember researching the family and did find Marty’s name along with the relatives in lots of articles. So I was a believer in the information provided..yet at that time, we were naive, uninformed, and hadn’t a clue to the corruption that we now know about.
The Case Of The Missing Neck.
Now, if only Sally could solve this mystery.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2011/07/07/father_spoke_of_having_obama_adopted/
an oldie but goodie
barky was 52 as of 8/16/2009
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=107163
Yo Birdie the Bomber,
Looks like you have to update Dreams of Whathisname’s Father.
busted, billyBOy.
bummer.
Sometimes you just slay me!
As you do me, many a time…. LOL!
A firestorm is brewing as the world is becoming aware that an event is being planned in which the people of America will join en masse to force Washington to take note that we will not be ignored about Barack Obama’s ineligibility to hold the office of president of the United States, the fraud that has been committed to hide that fact, or the stonewalling tactics that have been employed by Congress and the courts for nearly three years.
http://www.birthersummit.org/
It’s a great idea, Charles. Although, I wish it weren’t called “Birther” since that does carry with it derogatory undertones. I think something like The Natural Born Eligibility Summit makes the message clearer or something along that line. The Constitutional Summit on Eligibility might also work. I am sure others can come up with other ideas as well. Constitutionalists disagree with being called by the Left’s pet name for them.
Thanks to those who are organizing this, we will keep watching for information. Let us know about important news that you might see that we don’t.
I agree. I’m not with “owning” the derogatory name they use to marginalize us. It invites the media to overlook something that might be covered otherwise, especially if done right. Why give them an excuse to ridicule and ignore? They may as well call it the “birther bigot summit”. That’s what they think when they hear “birther”. That’s how successful Barry’s Alinsky tactics are, except the complicit media need no convincing. But independents as well as people who are too busy to pay much attention to the details of this topic might also have fallen for that Alinsky trap. But if they present the TRUTH in a logical rational way, people may be won over to the TRUTH. That’s my opinion.
I understand completely about how the way you feel about being called a birther… I just wanted to chime in and say that I am proud to be known as a birther and believe me I have been put through a lot in being identified and photographed and tailed and tracked as an active birther.
I look at as being a reBirther and have no problem accepting it. It will in due time lose the sting as any other derogatory name. All throughout history groups have gotten nicknames for their stance in political matters.
I think we are involved in an Epic “life or death” matter and I will be so proud one day, dead or alive to be known as one committed to the Birther movement. I prefer being a Birther as opposed to being a Liar/Traitor which are those who tagged us such. Of course, we are Constitutionalists, but call me what you want.
The more people accept the term, the better it will be for all. I am not insulted in the least as it only means one thing: we do not care where your messiah was born, he’s ineligible because he is not a full blooded American citizen and has foreign paternity, which makes you the badger a liar and a traitor.
Proud to be a Birther because I was not hoodwinked, bamboozled nor hypnotized from Day One. We know who you are. bogus potus. You are a not a loyal, natural born American citizen and even if you even came thisclose to being one, you wouldn’t beg people to pay you to fundamentally transform our beloved Country.
Call me what you want, I am an American Patriot when push comes to shove. Its a Labor of Faithful Love.
I agree with you, Papoose. Been here with you all along the way. I just think that the purpose of their summit is to get publicity and the REASON they make up names for us is to make people pay no attention to what we say but instead just write us off. I’m PROUD to be what amounts to what they call a “birther”. I only meant that in this instance, they give the media a reason to ignore instead of listen and cover the story. Not that they will anyway. This, we have learned.
Sharon asks many of the same questions as we do as related to Page 21 above.
Was Obama Sr.’s “U.S. Citizen Wife in the Philippines” Stanley Ann Dunham?
July 7, 2011
QUESTIONS ABOUT OBAMA’S BIRTHPLACE AND PARENTAGE ARE STILL UNANSWERED
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/07/07/was-obama-sr-s-u-s-citizen-wife-in-the-philippines-stanley-ann-dunham/
Great minds think alike! Actually, it’s quite a logical question when there are three wives mentioned in the same memo: one Luo wife in Kenya, one USC wife in Honolulu, and one USC wife in the Philippines. In that same memo, doesn’t he talk about a “legal separation” and a possible divorce when there WAS no LEGAL separation (ever reported) between SAD and BHO Sr.?
If he had more than one USC wife, he might have possibly planned to divorce both, especially if both marriages were contracted in the US, so he’d be a bigamist in the US and subject to arrest.
Why do they assume that he didn’t have TWO simultaneous marriages to USC wives? He did HAVE two USC wives that we know of–SAD and Ruth. Could there have been another? Why not?
He was Muslim and was allowed 4 wives and he allegedly married SAD even though married to Grace Kezia. On top of that, it’s documented that he was a playboy with many girlfriends, some of them blonde. So if he married SAD, why not any of the others?
This story repeats the probable lie that Barry didn’t know about his beloved father wanting to put him out for adoption: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43675060/ns/today-books/t/author-obamas-father-wanted-give-him-adoption?GT1=43001
It says, “Sally H. Jacobs takes a candid look at Barack Obama Sr. and paints a portrait in sharp contrast to the one provided by the president in his own [Ayers-written] memoir.” They say she did “exhaustive interviews”. Book comes out on the 12th. Can’t wait to see who she exhaustively interviewed. My guess: The usual suspects who Barry ALLOWS to speak. No surprise that she found Susan Botkin Blake AGAIN. This must be why others were told to shut their traps, lest they depart from the party line, however inadvertently. The tangled web must remain intact.
They write this about that memo, “She further reports that upon the time of that memo’s release (through the Freedom of Information act), the president himself was unaware of it or its contents.” I wonder when “the time of that memo’s release” was.
Another point: Why would SAD have been in the Philippines in 1964? That has never been reported. But if true, it’s something else they’re HIDING for some reason. She did have a passport before 1965, and they won’t “find” or release the applicaton for THAT document (as we also pointed out before, when the Philippine wife first came up). I wonder if she went there to adopt. Just a thought. Wouldn’t this be around the time she was marrying Lolo? Was it ever reported that they went to the Philippines at any time? On the way to Indonesia? Or back?
Another point: They can’t argue that SAD was in the Philippines in the course of her anthropology work because at the time she was working on a degree in MATH. She didn’t go into anthropology until after 1967. After her marriage to Lolo fell apart and she returned to Hawaii with Barry (for a while). See this link where Pam Geller has her college records.
“Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for:
Autumn 1961
Winter 1962
Spring 1962″
“The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:
Dates of attendance:
Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
Spring 1963 – Summer 1966
Fall 1972 – Fall 1974
Summer 1976
Spring 1978
Fall 1984 – Summer 1992
Degrees awarded:
BA – Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
MA – Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
PhD – Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)”
Geller asks why SAD started 6 weeks late at U of Hawaii in 1960. I that correct? Does anyone know when that school year began?
Sharon reports that Janny Scott placed the marriage to Lolo Soetoro in 1964. Remember that there’s always been that discrepancy and questions about whether her divorce post-dated her second marriage to Soetoro? So if she really married Soetoro in 1964, could they have been in the Philippines sometime that year? En route to Indonesia or back or even on vacation? OR is this another wife for BHO Sr. altogether?
Sharon’s also found a 2009 biography that says they didn’t marry until 1967: “Polite, even-tempered Soetoro was an international master’s student from Indonesia. In 1967 he proposed to Dunham. Once married, Ann changed her surname to Soetoro and the new family relocated to Indonesia near the city of Jakarta. In 1970, Ann gave birth to daughter Maya.”
If that’s true, then how could Barry be listed as an Indonesian citizen, son of Lolo, BEFORE Lolo’s marriage to Ann? The plot thickens.
Miri, read the Bio on Barack at that same Bio website that Sharon references for SAD…different dates altogether. Sheesh…don’t these people even notice the discrepancies in their own publications?
Will do. Thanks.
http://www.biography.com/articles/Barack-Obama-12782369
“Obama’s parents separated when he was two years old, later divorcing. Obama, Sr. went on to Harvard to pursue Ph.D. studies, and then returned to Kenya in 1965. In 1966, Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, another East–West Center student from Indonesia. A year later, the family moved to Jakarta, Indonesia, where Obama’s half-sister Maya Soetoro Ng was born.”
The HI Marriage Index 1960-1965 ( by the way the only one that had that broad a date span/range) lists Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham.
Went back to her maiden name? In the sixties with a mixed race child? Surrrrreee.
See the update to the article. Jacobs posted a cropped image of the unredacted memo.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=319853
Jack Cashill comments on Jacobs’s belated release of this information, specifically the ethics of sitting on this story for two years.
“Jacobs has a good deal to account for here. One, of course, is the ethical question of whether a newspaper reporter should sit on a relevant news story for two years to enhance book sales down the road.
A second question is why in her article she describes Obama Sr. as a “24-year-old” in the spring of 1961. According to all INS documents from Hawaii, Obama Sr. was born on June 18, 1934, which would have made him 26. … Jacobs gives no explanation as to why he would lie to the INS or why she cannot pinpoint the DOB of the subject of her biography.”
Cashill wrote, “One wonders whether she is trying to align Obama Sr.’s age with the “25” that will appear as his age on President Obama’s putative long-form birth certificate from August 1961.”
Well, that and possibly helping to hide that he scammed Harvard.
They HAD TO MAKE IT AND KEEP it 25 because they’d already released the SFCOLB before Jacobs got the INS records.
So perhaps it’s true that Barry didn’t know about these documents, but it sure looks as if Jacobs is doing yeoman’s work helping him TRY to smooth it all over. The SFCOLB and the LFCOLB HAD to match. Dancing as fast as they can, aren’t they?
Cashill hits a lot of the points we made:
Why does Jacobs call SAD’s MOVE to Seattle right after the birth a “visit”?
And how is it that Jacobs got an unredacted copy when others did not? That ought to be a huge problem for Obama’s administration with ALL reporters because they apparently politicized FOIA compliance according to the political sentiments of the REPORTERS who asked for documents. That should bother EVERY reporter. It’s something a person like Nixon would be impeached over.
Cashill writes, “Redacted too from the Independent’s documents are the critical words that strongly suggest that, while at Harvard, Obama Sr. impregnated a Kenyan high school exchange student and sent her to London for an abortion.
If these show up in Jacobs’ book un-redacted, someone at the INS will have some explaining to do.”
Will they? I noted yesterday that it appears that Smathers got her copies from another entity, while Jacobs claims hers came from DHS. But DHS were the exact group, iirc, who were intercepting and redacting (interfering with) responses to citizens who asked for information under FOIA. So my guess is that Smathers’s redactions were made for political reasons, because they weren’t sure she’d be sympathetic to Barry’s cause. Jacobs apparently complicit.
Cashill also misstates Mr. Dahlin’s name. For the REPORTERS who are supposed to be better factcheckers than we in the pajamas media, here’s a link:
http://openjurist.org/549/f2d/1343/berahmand-v-immigration-and-naturalization-service
“Lyle H. Dahlin, Dist. Director, Immigration & Nat. Service, Portland, Or”
9th Circuit Court of Appeals records. I think they’d get the name straight. But here’s another for doubters: http://www.justice.gov/archive/oip/annual_report/1980/denials.htm
“Immigration and Naturalization Service Dahlin, Lyle H. District Director, HHW”
1980 annual report from the government
Is Lyle still living or conveniently dead?
wow, i was just chosen randomly by the Pennsylvania Department of Health/ CDC division to answer a few questions to find out if I am eligible to conduct a further survey/ study to benefit the overall health of Pennsylvanians. Wow… my phone number was recited and then I was asked if this was the number… I asked was my phone number chosen randomly to conduct the survey and she said, no. you were. I was not addressed… usually a caller asks for the person they wish to speak to in this neck of the commonwealth..
hmmmm.
wtf? wonder if my phone is going to come down with a bug now.
Found the culprit
http://www.clearwater-research.com/
intrusive pain in the butts bug people like crazy, according to the comments made on the look up.
geebs.
I wondered about that, too, Bridgette. In 1977, he worked in Oregon and in 1980 he was at “HHW”, which apparently means Honolulu, Hawaii, so he must have returned to Hawaii. In 1961, he was presumably in Hawaii, where he oversaw BHO Sr.’s case. Been wondering if this is why they misspelled his name. Yes, Jacobs misspells it in her book. To make it harder for people to track him down? It appears that Lyle H. Dahlin was born 1928 and was living in Washington state when he was 81, according to people searches. His full name may be Lyle Hope Dahlin, but I can’t access the 1930 census for North Dakota to make sure. There’s no Lyle Dahlin in the SSDI.
The more I look at Jacobs’s story, the more oddities stand out. In her story, she talks about the now-infamous adoption memo. In that memo, Barry’s mother is referred to as Stanley Ann Dunham and Miss Dunham. But in her story, Jacobs refers to her as “Ann Dunham”. Why? Keep in mind that on the birth certificate, the signature of the mother is in two layers, with the “Stanley Ann D” separated from the “unham Obama.” Hmmm.
Is the mother that mysterious Ann USA in those photos taken at the Nachmanoff’s party, where Ann is sitting next to BHO Sr.? An Ann who looks Asian and certainly nothing like “Stanley Ann”?
Here’s another part of her story:
“Obama would have wanted to present a case that would impress immigration authorities. A bigamist with a mixed-race baby, if that is how authorities chose to see him, was not likely to be the strongest of candidates. As Gibbs [former WH spokesman Robert Gibbles] assessed the elder Obama’s possible motive:’He was trying to convince immigration to let him stay. So, part of his effort was to convince immigration that some of the responsibilities that he had he would not continue to have.’’’
Now does that make sense? IF a person has a USC wife AND a newly born USC son, would it be more likely that immigration would deport him rather than to make allowances so he could stay and help support his family? Back then, did immigration make it a point to create fatherless families, especially when the couple was legally married in the US and the child was legitimate? Allegedly married, yet this memo makes it APPEAR as if they believed in the marriage. (Although later on there’s that comment about making sure of the bona fides of the marriage.)
We should look at those memos with new eyes, extracting the handwritten parts to see how the story looks minus what MIGHT BE recently supplemented information, if you get my drift.
I get your drift, poor, poor barky, got pawned by his ALIEN father. boohoo
makes me wonder what they are going to FIND next… he had a twin that died during childbirth and is buried at Graceland?
that signature is the rosetta stone, unham obama is a word font and stanley is added as both an aforethought and “afterthought”.
he has more nefarious relatives, names, dates and documents then their are grains of sand. No wonder Billy the Bomber had to write the bio in “stone”.
According to HRH FLO, not only was Stanley Ann very single when she “had” him — July 2008 – just 3 short years ago.
booo hooo – oh, and bless here heart, that wonderous Madelyn the Magician, btw.
So is the embarrassing information that he wanted to hide on his BC that he was BORN in a hospital for unwed mothers, owned by the Salvation Army? He can’t have it both ways. Either he knew or he didn’t.
If we’re supposed to believe that he didn’t know, then WTF has he been hiding for all these years? Why bother to have your passport records “cauterized” by peeps? Why bother to send a patriot to prison rather than produce the paper you’ve had all along?
He SAW his BC, according to his ghostwriter Bill Ayers, unless, of course, that was just poetic license. Was he hiding the fact that the hospital named on the BC isn’t “Kapiolani” but IS “Salvation Army”?
Interesting that his mother’s name has rung the changes. First Shirley Ann. Then Stanley Ann. Then simply Ann. The INS calls her “MISS Dunham“, even though she’s supposed to be married. Jacobs calls her “Ann” and tries to fluff it off as she trying to be more grown-up and sophisticated. In Seattle, after LEAVING this husband she never lived with, she calls herself ANNA OBAMA for the city directories. (Oh, wait! Jacobs can “explain” that one, too. She ties it all up with a big bow for us–that was what BHO Sr. called her. So sweet!)
Why Obama when the INS called her Dunham?
Whatever became of SHIRLEY? Did she die like her aunt once accidentally said (since been scrubbed)? OR did she never exist?
Is there another Ann? Maybe that Asian girl sitting so close to BHO Sr. at the party at the Nachmanoffs, looking very quiet and demure and subservient (as surely BHO Sr. preferred his women to be)?
Was his different-colored-skin wife WHITE or perhaps was she Asian? Wouldn’t Hawaiians and Asians in Hawaii be as likely to glare when he strolled down the street with an Asian wife than if he was with a white woman?
Was “Ann USA” from the Philippines, maybe half Filipino and half white? Maybe a US soldier for a dad, which explained her “USA” title? Or was that Ann born in Hawaii to Filipino parents, so she was a US citizen? Or did they just label her “Ann USA” to make us think she was a US citizen, for some reason, as if that matters. It doesn’t, unless she’s BHO’s mother.
Ann was a very common name in America both as a first name, and of course, as a middle name. There is an Ann D out there that is hiding in the bushes… probably in plain sight.. wondering if “Ruth” is a bogus name since she appears no where in documents – only in literary crapola. plus, her married surname is a rendition of the literary maiden name which is a JOke nidesand to ndsandjo, hahahahahahah. what a coinkydink.
__________
Bill Clinton, the racist, sent a message out when he proclaimed in January 2008 during the early primaries that barky was a big fairy tale.
Maybe he meant something else. Ya know? 😉
Okay, Panel. We’re all set…
Will. The. Real. barrrrrrky. Please. Stand. Up?
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Orson, your question,
uhmmmm, would it be safe to say you have 16 plus minus wives, 39 1/2 children living on every continent in the world and as you herded goats near Lake Victoria you dreamed of a child with big ears and a funny name somehow related to you becoming the first known-to-be ineligible president of the United States of America?
What a throwback to childhood.. To Tell the truth. I only remember Gary Moore and Bill Cullem, and forget the dark haired woman’s name. But I can hear their voices.
Very funny Papoose!
isn’t that crazy. I miss those black and white days. They were great shows and now when you see them all cool in the 70’s psychedelia its so phychosilly!
Yeah, what liars we are dealing with… I wonder if there is a plan in Congress to just bide their time until the nitwit is out of office. Its unfathomable, presently, to believe they are not on to him. something has to give. He just made a speech about sending Americans to Mars — $eriously. (Probably trying to curb our obesity problem, no doubt!)
Was it Kitty Carlyle? Mrs. Carlyle? Only Carlyle knows for sure. Was she a Miss America?
YES..that is it! The freak Gamaliels! We did lots of research on that weird group.
No reply up there, Bridgette.
I know, that’s how I remembered it…. also there was discussion on RBO, as well. Funded by the Woods Foundation… Operation Board Games.
Another rewrite of the story.
If Barack wasn’t an Obama: book says President’s parents considered adoption
By Rupert Cornwell in Washington
Saturday, 9 July 2011
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/if-barack-wasnt-an-obama-book-says-presidents-parents-considered-adoption-2309520.html
Has anybody done much research into BHO Sr.’s moneybags, Elizabeth Mooney Kirk? She was helping him stay here, although Jacobs insists she wasn’t one of his many squeezes. Maybe she paid for all those nice clothes he wore once he got back to Kenya.
Who paid for the Mercedes that BHO drove around in in Kenya? Oh, Jakobs says they were cheap because all the Europeans were fleeing Kenya and didn’t want to ship them back! Right. If they owned a Mercedes, they could afford to ship them back from whence they came.
Elizabeth Mooney Kirk?
https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/obama%e2%80%99s-huge-fabricated-family-2/comment-page-2/#comment-31894
From Newsweek re Jacob’s book.. They need to get in on the action!
Who Was Barack Obama’s Father? Snips
July 10
A new book reveals him, warts and all, as a man his son would not become. – [Is lying genetically inherited?..’cause the 2nd has it down pat!]
The president, of course, has a healthy ego. But this is something else. Every shred of available evidence—which Jacobs, a veteran reporter, spent two years and 75,000 miles of intercontinental travel ably assembling [Oh, I cry B.S.!]—suggests that the senior Obama was an unmitigated jerk: a coxcombish souse who forced friends to cover his abundant bar tabs and repeatedly broke his legs in boozy car crashes; an uncooperative contrarian who was promptly fired from, or sidelined at, every job he ever had; a compulsive philanderer who ditched his first wife, Kezia Nyandega, when he moved to America, abandoned the president’s mother, Ann Dunham, when he left Hawaii for Harvard, and lured his third wife, Ruth Baker, to Kenya only to beat, berate, and cheat on her.
The elder Obama’s biggest problem was his desperate need to dominate everyone he encountered—the result, according to Baker, of “a great, enormous insecurity.” As a child in rural Kenya, Obama Sr. cobbled together the best education he could; when he was denied a spot on the famous 1959 East African student airlift, he made his own way to America. [Gosh, Jacobs fixed this story too! Yeah..denied a spot! And if the records are true, he didn’t fly into Hawaii either. First he landed in NY. ]
http://www.newsweek.com/2011/07/10/who-was-barack-obama-s-father.html
A trip to Honolulu was awkward for everyone, including 10-year-old Barack, who “count[ed] the days until my father would leave.”
In a post that I wrote three years ago (June 18, 2008 Who’s Your Daddy?), I noted that Obama was lying when he said:
If his purple lips are moving, he’s lying.
If anything, this adds more weight to the conclusion that perhaps he was Barry’s biological father. Look at the similarities:
“unmitigated jerk” Check.
“coxcombish” Check.
“forced friends to cover his abundant … tabs” Check; see WH soirees, limos, taxpayer-funded vacations for himself and safaris for the family, ad nauseum.
“souse” Check. In his own way–drugs (allegedly) not booze; car crashes? We wouldn’t know; has anyone ever seen him drive? No license? Can’t get one? Why not? Need a legit bc?
“uncooperative contrarian” Check.
“compulsive philanderer” Allegedly a check. Ask Mr. Sinclair for specifics.
“fired or sidelined at every job” Check, considering that Jarrett runs the show while Barry golfs and he voted “present” during his entire short political “career”; he sidelines himself if you consider anything he’s ever done to be a job.
“desperate need to dominate everyone” Check.
“a great, enormous insecurity” Check.
The only characteristic that seems not to match is beating his wife/wives. In a matchup, I’d bet on Michelle, who’s taller and outweighs him. Not a fair fight. Does he kick the dog instead?
Of course, there’s ALWAYS the possibility that he’s being portrayed this way in order to CONVINCE people that he is indeed Barry’s dad.
Isnt’ it amazing that this entire book seems to be nothing more than an attempt to EXPLAIN AWAY EVERY CONTRADICTION, DISCREPANCY, ANACHRONISM, IRRATIONALITY, OXYMORON, AND OUTRIGHT LIE IN THE “OFFICIAL” HISTORY OF THE OBAMA FAMILY? It’s as if this woman read EVERY blog and news article that DID NOT FAWN OVER BARRY over the past few years, including ours, in order to provide something, anything, upon which the still-wanting-to-believe-but-possibly-wavering obots could sup. Check all logic and proportion at the door.
Bookends, Janny Scott and Sally Jacobs. Has either written a book before? Jacobs has not; I forget about Scott. Conscripted to do this “public service”, just in case people are paying attention this time around? Sally H. Jacobs, 54, of Massachusetts herself. http://theotherbarack.com/?p=2 Photo of her there. She’s signing the book in Brookline on the 20th! Right in Ruth’s hometown. She’s either related to a Sarah Jacobs or that’s her real name and Sally is a nickname.
We have to wait for the book to see the footnotes. To see whether she actually did ANY originally reporting, factchecking, or interviewing, or did she just go to secondary sources to repeat previous interviews? Did she actually find some NEW people to interview instead of the usual, obfuscating, subjectively biased suspects like Abercrombie, Blake, Ruth Beatrice, Ochieng, and the rest of the Obama family?
Here’s news: Politico reports that “On the back shelves of the Kenya National Archives in Nairobi there were hundreds of memos he wrote while working for the Ministry of Finance and Economic Planning and thick bundles of the minutes of meetings held during his years at the Kenya Tourist Development Corporation. In a storage facility in Lee’s Summit, Missouri, where the paper records of what was once called the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service are stored, there is a folder bearing the name Barack H. Obama, alien registration number A11938537, which contained memos stretching from the time he arrived in Honolulu in 1959 until he [left] Cambridge, Massachusetts … in 1964. … There were a dozen blue aerogrammes about Obama in the archives of Syracuse University and letters he had written to the popular Kenyan nationalist Tom Mboya store at Stanford University.” [If I remember, these were also dug up by the pajamas media.]
“Jacobs, a veteran reporter, spent two years and 75,000 miles of intercontinental travel ably assembling.” Bridgette, I cry B.S., too!
If it’s true that she logged 2 years and 75,000 miles, is it fair to ask WHO BANKROLLED THIS RESEARCH? Did Soros or did We the People, because Jacobs glommed onto the Magical Mystery Tour? The traveling of the not-so-Irish Travelers known as the POTUS AND FLOTUS? Did she hit Indonesia with Barry? Did she accompany the FLOTUS on safari in Africa? Has she become a chosen regular on Air Farce One?
Published by PublicAffairs.
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Senior staff:
Susan Weinberg, Publisher. (She published a book by Samantha Power. We remember her.)
Peter Osnos, Founder and editor-at-large (“In 1997, he founded PublicAffairs, an independent publishing company specializing in books of journalism, history, biography, and social criticism” Published Jimmy Carter, Rosalyn Carter, Gen. Wesley Clark, Clark Clifford, former President Bill Clinton, Sam Donaldson, Dorothy Height, Molly Ivins</strong>, Vernon Jordan, Stanley Karnow, Wendy Kopp, Jim Lehrer, Scott McClellan, Robert McNamara, Charles Morris, Peggy Noonan, Barack Obama, Tip O’Neill, Nancy Reagan, Andy Rooney, Morley Safer, Natan Sharansky, George Soros, Donald Trump, Paul Volcker, Russian President Boris Yeltsin, and Muhammad Yunus. “Osnos has also been a commentator and host for National Public Radio and a contributor to publications including Foreign Affairs, The Atlantic, and The New Republic. He has also served as Chair of the Trade Division of the Association of American Publishers and on the board of the Human Rights Watch. He is executive director of The Caravan Project, funded by the MacArthur and Carnegie Foundations, which is developing a plan for multi-platform publishing of books. He is Vice Chairman of the Columbia Journalism Review and is active in a number of other journalism and human rights organizations. Osnos writes a regular media column that is distributed by the Century Foundation (TCF.org), where he is a Senior Fellow. He is a member of The Council on Foreign Relations. He is a graduate of Brandeis and Columbia Universities.”
Lisa Kaufman, Marketing director and senior editor “Books she has acquired and edited include the #1 New York Times bestseller What Happened by Scott McClellan; The Fate of Africa by Martin Meredith; Destiny Disrupted: A History of the World through Islamic Eyes by Tamim Ansary; Gusher of Lies: The Dangerous Delusions of “Energy Independence” by Robert Bryce; Sarah from Alaska by Scott Conroy and Shushannah Walshe; and Molly Ivins: A Rebel Life by Bill Minutaglio & W. Michael Smith.”
Robert Kimsey, VP, Assistant Publisher, etc. “Previously, he was Publications Director for Human Rights Watch.”
I think we have the picture.
I should have remembered Sally Jacobs’s name. She’s been in on “the story” from the start: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2008/09/21/a_fathers_charm_absence/ Except that’s the story that got locked up and/or “updated” and/or scrubbed. Try this link: http://web.archive.org/web/20090130142531/http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2008/09/21/a_fathers_charm_absence/?page=full
This was the story that had particulars about Mboya. More by Sally:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/04/29/elder_obama_denied_harvard_phd/
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2011/04/documents_raise.html
Gee, kind of proves that she “saved up” that adoption tale for the release of her fawning, explanatory book about BHO Sr. Why didn’t she report it then, in April 2011? During the HEIGHT of the Trump investigation of Barry’s ineligibility?
http://web.archive.org/web/20080703161713/http://www.caravanbooks.org/about2.jsp
The current page for “The Caravan Project” is offline. That’s from the Wayback Machine. It was funded also by The Century Foundation: http://tcf.org/about
Of course, another PROGRESSIVE foundation, although they claim to be non-partisan, as usual. How many degrees of separation from George Soros? His Open Society is a “partner” of the Century Foundation.
Here’s an article by Osnos at the Century Foundation, apparently bragging about publishing Soros’s manuscript.
http://tcf.org/commentary/2008/nc1857/?searchterm=soros
How is it that I knew the connection was there before I even went looking? A tangled web. A billionaire with tentacles everywhere.
That’s funny. She wrote otherwise in Sept. 2008.
“In 1959 he was one of 81 promising young Kenyans selected to travel on the first of three student “airlifts” to the United States to attend universities there.
Obama, who was interested in economics, wrote to dozens of universities and was awarded a scholarship to the University of Hawaii. The architect of the airlift was Tom Mboya, one of the principals of Kenya’s independence movement, who was grooming the young Kenyans to take prominent positions in the soon-to-be-independent Kenya. Mboya, viewed as a probable successor to Kenyatta, took a keen interest in Obama, who was, like him, a member of the Luo tribe.
Obama was 23 when he boarded a Britannia aircraft, bound for the United States. He was already married to a woman named Kezia with whom he had one child, and another child was on the way. But the airlift, which held the promise of an American degree and a host of invaluable connections, was his shot at a different kind of life.”
How offensive is this? “But when Harvard’s WASPy authorities got wind of Obama Sr.’s womanizing, they revoked his scholarship and forced him to return to Kenya before he could complete his dissertation. He never got his degree.” That’s from the Newsweek story. So now they BLAME “WASPs” for BHO Sr.’s failure to complete his PhD? It wasn’t his “womanizing” or general lack of ambition or actually working for something instead of expecting he was entitled to it. No, it was the fault of the WHITE, ANGLO-SAXON, PROTESTANT AUTHORITIES!
Like father, like son. Sheesh. Talk about excuse making.
“Like the president, Obama Sr. was also a brilliant, ambitious idealist who overcame the limited circumstances of his background to attend the best schools in the world, then set out to participate in a moment of vast political promise. That he failed so spectacularly, and that his son succeeded, says a lot about the qualities of character that can distinguish a leader from a lout.”
No, they’re both louts. “Overcame the limited circumstances of his background?” That’s supposed to apply to Barry, too? What is this reporter smoking?
Barry went to the most expensive and prestigious school on the Islands from the fifth grade, at least. FACT.
Barry, while in Indonesia, was driven to school in a limousine by a driver. FACT.
Barry, while in Indonesia, benefitted from the royal connections of his adoptive father Lolo Soetoro, whose family lived in a large, gated compound. FACT.
Barry was able to take a 3-week trip to Pakistan while in college. Where’d he get the dough? FACT.
Barry, in FACT, traveled all over Asia with his mother on what passport, nobody knows. FACT.
After Punahou, Barry attended Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard. FACT.
Not exactly someone who had to overcome poor circumstances. Barry always was and REMAINS a member of the ELITE.
Want to gag? Read this from the Newsweek article:
“Jacobs doesn’t dwell on the differences between Obama Sr. and his son, but reading her book, one can’t help but conclude that the younger Barack has matured, for whatever reason, into a near-perfect negative image of the elder: formed from the same template and yet precisely opposite in every cast and contour of his character.”
Again, what is this guy smoking? If anything, this portrait of Obama Sr.EXACTLY describes what we see in his son. Just read the son’s press conference today. The most infamous and dangerous case of arrested development this Republic has had to endure. Eat your peas, children. He said all will have to compromise, “just like I have shown myself willing to compromise.”
Has anyone here posted or commented on Hawaii Act 195?
(follow the link to view two videos embedded in that post)
Bill To Further Self Determination For Native Hawaiians
Sidebar: Who thinks the “U K L Lee” on the long form COLB is a tongue-in-cheeck reference to “Ukulele”?
Have any of you had previous written correspondence with Hawaiian officials and would be willing to do so again?
I’m interested in having WTPOTUS “endorse” and “sponsor” (by paying the $5 fee) someone to exercise their rights under
§338-14.3 Verification in lieu of a certified copy
and §338-18 Disclosure of records(g)(5):
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf
I have tried that route, and I would say unless you are willing to take it to court, you won’t get anywhere and the process will make your head explode 🙂
Actually mine is still “in play” as I have a complaint in with the ombudsman’s office which they claim they are still investigating but they cannot proceed until they get answers from the DOH. It has been 7 months…
Can you scan and post a copy of the information you sent to HDOH? (I’m curious about variations in request details and references to §338-18(g).
Did the HDOH ever send you anything in response, or did they just ignore you?
Perhaps if a member of Congress requested a Letter of Verification, the HDOH would find it difficult to ignore…
There was so much…I sent in the actual form from their website, crossing out “certified copy” and indicating it was for a verification letter, The Post and Email sponsored me, I sent in the appropriate fee; They mailed back my application requesting additional info (I forgot a photocopy of my ID, they needed something from my sponsoring organization, etc); There were some phone calls (I spoke to supervisor Jesse in vital records who concurred that I met the criteria for a verification letter, who told me my request went to his supervisor (it later went to the AG’s desk) and told me “they know they can’t give you this because then they would have to give out one for barack obama” (seriously…my request was NOT for BHO and I had NEVER mentioned him in my emails or that phone call); Later i got emails saying they took verification letters in order and currently had a backlog of 6-8 weeks; after the 8 weeks they said it was at the Registrar’s office and later the AG, and then eventually denied it, saying I did not meet the criteria.
Janice Okubo told an outright lie about me to June Watanabe of the Sta Bulletin when I cited her 2004 article
Wow, SEO! Thanks for all that information and for giving it the old college try. I had forgotten all about how they changed the rules to make people provide photo ID. btw, wasn’t that in the law that they DIDN’T pass? Or did they pass it? I thought they backed off after publicity. So where do they get off requiring photo id for information? It’s meant to intimidate people into not doing research. That’s against the purpose and spirit of sunshine laws. As I said, they simply ignore their own laws. Now I’m curious, what story by June Watanabe?
continued…
http://archives.starbulletin.com/2004/05/16/news/kokualine.html
In which she states just how easy it is for anyone to get a verification letter to confirm a vital event. I wrote Ms. Watanabe and asked her and told her how the DOH was not responding to my requests, and she apparently wrote Janice Okubo who told her i was asking about Obama (full-on bold faced lie) and Ms. Watanabe wrote back that she could not help me.
THis was all over a year ago…the ombudsman’s investigation has been going on since October 2010.
“Such letters would verify the existence of a birth/death/marriage/divorce certificate, plus any other information provided for verification.
That means the department will not disclose any information on the certificate that is not known to the applicant. You can’t go fishing for information.
Instead, you would have to ask for verification of something specific, such as, John Doe died on a certain date, at a certain place.'”
Exactly as we read the law back in 2008. Yet Okubo is deliberately misreading the law and pretending that all she has to say is yes or no–there’s such a record on file, in other words, index data. But their website, back in 2008, explained that the letter of verification would actually be a copy of the record, with the verified information printed on it and any information NOT SUPPLIED BY OR KNOWN BY THE REQUESTOR redacted. It doesn’t matter to these people, as they have apparently admitted. They ignore their laws for everyone SO THEY DON’T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW FOR OBAMA.
“someone having a common ancestor with the person (sibling, grandparent, aunt/uncle or cousin);”
That one should have a lot of possibilities, but it’s been tried to and found stonewalled. It appears that that reporter or Okubo rewrote the list of who has a tangible interest because it used to include educators, writers, researchers. I remember suggesting to Mitchell Langbert, since he’s a professor, that he might try to get such a letter. Three years later and counting. Now with Abercrombie in charge, what’s the likelihood they will follow the law? Zilch is my prediction. They’re in so deep now that they dare not follow it, lest they be caught up in the maelstrom.
Since the reporter wrote the story in 2004, have to wonder if Okubo was already practicing for 2008!
On second thought, Red, maybe you should! But only give them a reasonable time to respond and then complain to the Ombudsman.
Actually Miri, I think maybe it shows just the opposite! In 2004 I think the HDOH actually followed its own laws and rules, actually was an “open records” agency…actually responded to citizens legitimate requests.
I just remember that 2004 was the break-out year for Barry AND it seems as if Okubo is narrowly defining a person with tangible interest, despite that the description in the law was much broader. And she does make it seem as if the only reason they ask for more information is to narrow down which person by that name is being asked about. But I clearly remember reading, back in 2008, that the FORM of the letter of verification was NOT a “letter”. It was simply an uncertified (informational) version of the document in question, but with any data not supplied by the requestor redacted. So if the person knew, for example, the birth name, the date and time of birth, but not the names of the parents, the names of parents would be redacted. But you have more experience with them than I, so I’ll take your word for it. I simply think that Okubo, in particular, is and has been connected to these particular progressives for a long time, despite that, iirc, she claimed to be Republican. So did Lingle. Means nothing in Hawaii.
exactly redpill, (5) as long as someone is not getting information to sell they should be able to get it.For whatever other purposes and it doesn’t have to be specified even.
This is a bit off topic here but just wanted to pop in and tell you guys that after halfway reading my book by John Gunther ” Inside Africa” written in the 50’s he says when the Mau Mau “Emergency began in 1952 till late fifties into 1960 it was ordered strictly that ” no more than two people could meet together so as no group could conspire any threat. There were strict curfews and NO Dances were to be held anywhere in the areas that Obama’s family would have been. Remember O. Sr. supposedly meets his wife at a dance, also the marriage rituals(which are quite explicite and were not the story that Kezia tells. )
They never let facts get in the way of THEIR “truth”.
Note that Frequently Asked Questions about Vital Records of President Barack Hussein Obama II mentions both §338-18(b) and §338-18(d), but makes no mention of §338-18(g).
They want you to know that you aren’t a person with “a direct and tangible interest in the record”, and that the “index data regarding President Obama is: Birth Index, Obama II, Barack Hussein, Male”, but they don’t want you to know that you can order a Letter of Verification.
We at WTPOTUS need to “endorse” and/or “sponsor” someone who is brave enough to reveal their true identity to the State of Hawaii and request a Letter of Verification for this “document” so that the State of Hawaii is forced to either confirm or deny the authenticity of the information contained on it.
https://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/07/06/obamas-mama-had-a-fraudulent-social-security-number-too/comment-page-1/#comment-58443
I talked about those letters of verification there. butterdezillion and Miss Tickly have proved, iirc, that a person can remain anonymous, under Hawaiian law, and still get information under their “sunshine laws.” This letter of verification gambit was tried back in 2008. They didn’t follow their own laws. Recently, Miss Tickly made requests of them under the provision that she’s a person researching Obama. I believe that was tried before and they simply ignored their law. Even under their law, a person researching for publication is a person with a direct and tangible interest. Yes, it would be great if a member of Congress would request this. Trump? How about him? Corsi? Ditto.
One key difference between 2008 and now is that in 2008 we only had the information from the Certification of Live Birth for which to seek verification. Now we have the more extensive information from the Certificate of Live Birth for which to seek verification.
Of course, if HDOH has been and continues to ignore requests for Letters of Verification, then the diffences between the short form and long form are moot.
I have had personal contact with a sitting member of Congress over the last 3 years. It’s time for me to ping them again and ask them to keep their promise w/r/t this issue.
I added an image of Mr. Dahlin’s signature to the post. Opinions?