No Proof of Osama Bin Laden’s Final Moment (Open Thread)

By Bridgette

Obama refuses to release Photo’s


Obama Pondering - Attempting to Make a Decision

Thanks to those in our Military and Intelligence Agencies  for taking out  the #1  Most Wanted Terrorist in the World!   The War on Terror hasn’t ended, but the head of the snakes has been permanently severed!   His fate  included a bullet through or above his eye and to his  chest.  The brutal terrorist’s life on earth ended when he was dropped 30 feet  from a naval ship into the sea.  His remains  will be ripped apart and consumed by the  monsters who live in the ocean waters.   His venom has changed the world for the worse, and the ideology he spewed will take decades to remove.

Obama is so proud of “his” accomplishment and feels so empowered, that he wants to take  his “cock of the walk” in New York City at the site of 9-11.   A huge spectacle (His real mission, campaigning, of course.) is expected.   Yet he doesn’t want to prove to the American people who lost so many and suffered so greatly the proof of the terrorist’s death.  Much like he doesn’t want the American people to know his bona fides.  How much are Americans willing to take from the less than transparent administration?  No proof.  No accountability.  How many different and multiple confused stories from the White House  will we hear?  When will the truth be told?

An explosive backlash  from the Muslim world is the reason they are giving for not releasing the photos.   They believed the  jihadists would use the photo as a recruiting tool, and they wanted to protect  Americans, our troops,  and diplomats across the world.  They think a photo would incite radicals worldwide and didn’t want to give them any further ammunition (as if they needed any!).

We saw Saddam hanged and we saw photos of his sons laying dead.  Why would this photo be any worse?   With all the conflicting stories coming from this administration, the conspiracy theories will begin.  The media added to this by saying that Osama’s DNA was proof of death, yet the results of DNA aren’t in.   Too many conflicting stories.  With all the lies that come from this administration,  who  should we believe?  Who made the final decision not to show the photos?  Leo Panetta said yes;  Gates and Hillary said no.  Obama was pondering.   I guess Valerie said no.

Judge Napolitano said earlier that the photos are covered by a law that protects them as a matter of national security, so no FOIA requests will get them released, nor will any lawsuits.  The release is totally in the power of the pResident.

By the way, if you don’t believe the stories about Osama, you are now titled the “Deathers.”  Jokingly, there are now the “Truthers,” “Birthers,” and now the “Deathers.”

270 responses to “No Proof of Osama Bin Laden’s Final Moment (Open Thread)

  1. Bombers take bin Laden revenge in Pakistan
    13 May, 2011

    CHARSADDA, Pakistan (Reuters) – Suicide bombers killed 80 people at a Pakistani paramilitary academy on Friday in revenge for the death of Osama bin Laden in a U.S. raid and militants in Pakistan vowed to carry out more attacks.

    Followers of bin Laden have vowed revenge for the al Qaeda chief’s death and the Pakistani Taliban said Friday’s attack by two suicide bombers in the northwestern town of Charsadda was their first taste of vengeance.

    • I hate to read stuff like this, for obvious reasons–80 people dead. But think about what it means to have unrest and civil strife in nuclear-armed Pakistan. We can only hope that the Pakistanis harden their hearts against the Taliban instead of blaming the USA and taking the side of the Taliban. It’s not like we asked their government to shelter OBL.

  2. Osama Bin Laden Wanted To Kill President Obama
    May 13, 2011 Snips

    U.S. officials are analyzing one million pages of data from the trove found in Osama bin Laden’s compound during the raid that killed him, and say they have learned more in the past ten days than in the past 10 years. Among the things they’ve learned is that the al Qaeda leader wanted to find a way to kill President Obama.

    The leaders of al Shabaab, which operates in war-torn Somalia on Kenya’s northern border, include an Alabama-born-and-raised 27-year-old named Omar Hammami who goes by the nom de guerre Abu Mansour al-Amriki, or Abu Mansour the American. The son of a white Southern Baptist mother and a Syrian Muslim father, Amriki grew up in Daphne, Alabama, near Mobile. This week, Amriki, who is under indictment on federal terror charges in Alabama, was recorded issuing threats against the United States and President Obama. “Today we remind Obama, and the rest of his cronies, that they have entered the wrong war,” said Amriki.

    Bin Laden’s own writings discovered at his compound indicate he urged his followers to assassinate the President, and find ways to disrupt the 2012 American elections.

    “I would say this is probably very personal on bin Laden’s part, to kill a President that he believes has violated the Muslim faith,” said Brad Garrett,” an ABC News consultant and former FBI profiler. “He is incensed, inflamed, obsessed about killing the President.”

    In fact, the video of bin Laden watching television in his hideout shows that whenever President Obama came on the screen, bin Laden quickly tried to change the channel.

    • I never thought I would have anything in common with OBL. Quickly changed the channel, huh? 🙂

      Now we have more insight into why the sudden switch into an anti-terror warrior (besides wanting to fool more of the people more of the time to get reelected)–it’s quite different when he’s the target instead of, say, GWB.

      Was that a Freudian slip on Garrett’s part? It would seem so.

      What’s with this sudden focus on threats to Granny Sarah and now Barry? As if people couldn’t figure this out before. That, of course, the jihadists hate any American (even arguable ones) and anybody connected to them, but especially leaders. They’re doubtless still after the Bushes. Why would Obama be different? But is he different or is this just more theater? Is this part two of the Journolist media campaign for campaign 2012? He’s born in Hawaii, and he’s NOT a Muslim. See? They’re targeting him, too, so that proves it. Riiiiiiight.

  3. Who is leaking all of this information? Tactical operation secrets …I am stunned.

    Sources: Navy SEALs Knew Bin Laden Mission Was One-Shot Deal
    May 17, 2011 | Associated Press Snips

    WASHINGTON — Those who planned the secret mission to get Usama bin Laden in Pakistan knew it was a one-shot deal, and it nearly went terribly wrong.

    The U.S. deliberately hid the operation from Pakistan, and predicted that national outrage over the breach of Pakistani sovereignty would make it impossible to try again if the raid on bin Laden’s suspected redoubt came up dry.

    Once the raiders reached their target, things started to go awry almost immediately, officials briefed on the operation said.

    Adding exclusive new details to the account of the assault on bin Laden’s hideout, officials described just how the SEAL raiders loudly ditched a foundering helicopter right outside bin Laden’s door, ruining the plan for a surprise assault. That forced them to abandon plans to run a squeeze play on bin Laden — simultaneously entering the house stealthily from the roof and the ground floor.

    U.S. special operations forces have made approximately four forays into Pakistani territory since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, though this one, some 90 miles (145 kilometers) inside Pakistan, was unlike any other, the officials say.

    • The SEALS are said to be angry about all this exposure by those in the administration. I read somewhere (maybe here!) that in the situation room, it was agreed that no details would be given out. That “agreement” was nearly immediately breached, by people wanting credit. Maybe now the SEALS are doing some payback.

  4. Taliban leader Mullah Omar killed (potential, not the best news source)
    The Philippine Star ^ | 5/23/2011
    Sunday, May 22, 2011

    KABUL (Xinhua) — Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar has been killed in Pakistan, a private television channel reported Monday.

    “Mullah Omar was killed on way from Quetta to North Waziristan, ” TOLO television said in its news bulletin.

    However, it did not provide details on how he was killed and by whom.

    Meanwhile, a security official confirmed the killing, saying, ” it is correct that Mullah Omar has been killed.”

    But he did not disclose details

    • Afghan Intel Agency: Taliban Chief Has Disappeared
      Monday, 23 May 2011 Snips

      KABUL, Afghanistan — The Afghan intelligence agency said Monday that the reclusive leader of the Taliban has disappeared from a suspected hideout in Pakistan and has been out of contact with his commanders for days — adding further questions about Mullah Mohammad Omar after a media report said he was killed.

      The Taliban denied the claim on the Afghan news channel Tolo that Omar was shot dead while being moved inside Pakistan with the help of a former Pakistani intelligence official. The Taliban spokesman countered that Omar was alive and was somewhere inside Afghanistan.

  5. Judicial Watch Sues Central Intelligence Agency for bin Laden Photos and Videos
    Washington, DC — June 9, 2011

    Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has joined the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to its Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit against the Department of Defense (DOD). In the lawsuit Judicial Watch is seeking access “to all photographs and/or video recordings of Osama (Usama) bin Laden taken during and/or after the U.S. military operation in Pakistan on or about May 1, 2011 (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of Defense and Central Intelligence Agency (No.11-00890)).

    Judicial Watch filed a FOIA request with the CIA on May 4.

    The CIA has 20 business days legally to respond to a FOIA request.

    “The American people by law have a right to know basic information about the killing of Osama bin Laden. President Obama’s personal reluctance to release the documents is not a lawful basis for withholding them. The Obama administration will now need to justify its lack of compliance in federal court. This historic lawsuit should remind the administration that it is not above the law,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

  6. it’s almost August 2011… over 6 months have passed. still no senate committee has given even verbal assurance they have seen the photos and DNA evidence….. why?

  7. Is The New Yorker’s Navy SEAL Cover Story Fake?
    Saturday, August 06, 2011
    Joel B. Pollak Snips

    Georgetown University professor C. Christine Fair has written a post at alleging that Nicholas Schmidle’s New Yorker cover story detailing the Navy SEAL raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound may be a fraud. At the very least, Fair alleges, Schmidle failed to interview the Navy SEALs involved in the operation–which is not mentioned anywhere in the article, but is apparent from a close analysis of the text.

    If Schmidle did fake all or part of his story, Fair says, that could complicate relations between the U.S. and the Muslim world:

    ….As Mr. Schmidle’s is the first (and so far only) account of the drama, these problems cast a pale of doubt upon the events that transpired that evening…

    Second is the simple fact of Mr. Schmidle’s parentage. His father, as noted above, is the deputy commander of the U.S. Cyber Command. Given the conspiratorial propensities of many within and beyond the Muslim world, Schmidle’s ties to this organization by virtue of his father would recast any serious inaccuracy in his report as a U.S. military psychological operation to deliberately misinform the world about the operation…

    Fair’s post:

  8. Interesting thought about the Pakistani Doctor – Did he know that Bin Laden wasn’t Bin Laden? Why isn’t the US going all out to save him now if he helped us locate the terrorist? Unless ….he could tell the truth and the person he was ministering to wasn’t Bin Laden and this was all set up as a fake death of an imposter? Was his real CIA job to make a fake identification and now he is silenced and jailed for participating in an Obama game? And the death of all those Seals – were they duped as well and died for what they “might” reveal? Kidney machine for Osama’s dialysis not found in the compound?

    From Comments – Adam Smith:06/14/2012 – 12:08pm. (snips)

    I’m in disbelief that no news reporter or news agency hasn’t looked into the “Osama Kill” story. I haven’t seen anything reported on how none of that story made any sense. Just the fact that he was ‘buried at sea with a Muslim funeral” in less than 24 hours should have set alarm bells off all over at least the non-liberal media. Imagine if the Russians had done the same thing with Hitler if they had the chance to capture him. “Oh we just shot him and now the body is gone”. The other allies would have gone insane. A few months later a page 36 story comes out that of course no one notices where the administration claimed they brought the body back to Guantanamo. Really? And no one even mentions it.

    That Doctor who just got 33 years in a Pakistani prison will never be heard from again as he knows Osama wasn’t Osama. The 30 Navy Seals that “just happen to be on a single helicopter” and it gets hit with an RPG and all hands go down. Thirty of the best warriors killed in a single incident and no one in the media even thinks about reporting it. Did the seals know it wasn’t Osama, maybe a body double? Did they question why are we shooting this guy when we could easily capture him and bring him to justice? Does the administration even think about an investigation into how some insurgent with an RPG happens to hit the chopper at the exact moment ALL THIRTY Seals were packed onto an old Chinook chopper to head into battle.

    ….Get a body double into Pakistan, use the Navy Seals as patsies to pull it off, and Obamalinsky comes out looking like a Green Beret after MSNBC massages the story for political gold. No body, no crime… It’s just that when the body was “buried” at sea within 24 hours, none of it made any sense to me. A live Bin Laden would have been a real trophy for the Seals, and they could have taken him live with little effort.

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