Obama, Fool Us Once, Fool Us Twice, Don’t Think So!

 © Bridgette WTPOTUS 2011

Obama Released Another Computer Generated Version of a Document purported to be his real, authentic, verified Birth Certificate.  I guess the DOH had time to make up a computerized version because  the new director, Fuddy, couldn’t get access to the ORIGINAL VAULT COPY  even for the president!  Instead of releasing a copy of the ORIGINAL vault copy of the birth certificate, they manufactured another one.

How does the new Certificate compare to the old Certification?  How does it compare to Miki Booth’s  document that was received in March..only a month ago?  Who will call the President’s newest bluff?   The media complex heralded the release of this document, but it certainly is not what can be called the Original Long Form Vault Record of Obama’s birth in Hawaii.

Graphic artists are already calling this document  a layered product where information appears and disappears when examined.  Why would Onaka’s signature appear and disappear?    In other words, it was a creation of multiple layers and not even a copy of a document nor a digital record of an original.    It appears this document is as poorly done as are the photo-shopped family photos.   It probably might be very difficult to find a forger that could keep his mouth shut if asked to make such an important document that  would undergo forensic analysis.  That will happen to this document or won’t it?

This is the BLUFF they are trying to pull over citizens with the release of this newly “created” document.   They want citizens to pay attention to the birth certificate and not mention the real issue which is that Obama is still NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.  He is not eligible now nor was he ever qualified according to the Constitution.

No, Mr. Trump, this document is not going to check out beautifully!    We know you won’t be duped!

The Media believes this is over, Is it?

Miki Booth’s Son’s Certificate of Live Birth

Miki Booth's son.. Alan Booth Certificate of Live Birth

Certificate of Live Birth, March 15, 2011, Miki Booth


Certificate of Live Birth Dated March 15, 2011 from Miki Booth

Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth 

(which was a Certification previously)

Obama's "New" CERTIFICATE of Live Birth

Obama’s CERTIFICATION of Live Birth

The first version

Obama's CERTIFICATION of Live Birth

Nordyke Twins  Born the Day After Obama

Susan Nordyke

Susan Nordyke Certificate of Live Birth 1961

Gretchen Nordyke

Gretchen Nordyke Birth Certificate

Barack Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate

Barack Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate - Lucas Smith

 Tim Adams’ Affidavit stating there is NO original birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii.

Tim Adams Affidavit

352 responses to “Obama, Fool Us Once, Fool Us Twice, Don’t Think So!

    J.B. Williams
    April 29, 2011

    As the media blitz to silence questions about Obama’s eligibility for office become shrill, Obama finally releases his so-called “long form” birth certificate (aka, a birth certificate), confirming once and for all that he is not a natural born citizen of the United States in compliance with Article II of the U.S. Constitution.

    Let the impeachment begin!

    The document posted on the White House web site, reported to be Obama’s actual birth certificate, appears to be a very poor forgery even to the untrained eye. But that’s not really the big story here…

    The release of this document actually proves a few things much more important at this stage of the debate.

    • Obama lied – having claimed for two years to have already released his birth certificate, which birthers correctly identified as only a COLB (Certification of Live Birth). Now he has released his birth certificate, allegedly.
    • The press lied – swearing to Obama’s lie, also claiming over and over and over again for two years, that Obama had already released his birth certificate. He had not. Now he has, maybe.
    • Barack Hussein Obama I is his natural birth father – and since he was never a citizen of the United States, Barack Obama II cannot possibly be a natural born citizen of the United States.
    • Most people don’t know what natural born citizen means.


  2. OUT OF ORDER: Obama’s Certificate Number Is Based On Geography, Not Chronological Birth Order!
    Friday, April 29, 2011 Snips

    REPORT REVEALS SHOCKING PROOF: Contrary to recent implications, new evidence supports that Barack Obama was not actually delivered in Kapi’olani hospital, as records suggest, but, rather, he was merely examined there by a private practitioner, David Sinclair, in the days following his birth, which triggered the validation of an administratively issued “Certificate of Live Birth” registration, not a hospital generated birth certificate representing an actual delivery which was numbered due to an ‘externally registered’ birth.

    If you can ignore the fact that the name of the attesting local registrar who signed Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth appears to be a possible forger’s play on the word for a Hawaiian musical instrument, “UKULELE” (U. K. L. Lee), we will begin by simply assuming that this alleged “Certificate of Live Birth” document is an authentic record and that no conspiracy was required in order to create it.

    Therefore, this evidence reveals that Obama’s non-sequential birth registration number is the result of the birth being registered in a location not used by the hospital Obama claims to have been born in, rendering the possibility that his recent “Certificate of Live Birth” Registration issued by the Hawaii Health Department is merely a record of birth registration legally issued by the Health Department under HRS 338-17.8, after being examined by a doctor at Kapi’olani hospital who could attest to his live birth, post-delivery.


  3. Bon Appetit Birth Certificate…
    Apr. 27

    I predicted multiple times that President Obama would produce the original long form birth certificate when it best served him to do so. Today that prophecy was fulfilled. I have always maintained that the birth certificate issue was a red herring smoke screen protecting Obama from facing the true issue of his ineligibility – dual nationality.

    Like Chester Arthur before him, Obama was protected from genuine questions regarding his birth status having been governed, as he admits, by the United Kingdom via the faux BC issue until October 27, 2008 when I instituted my law suit against the New Jersey Secretary of State alleging that neither Obama nor McCain were eligible.

    I predicted over and again that when it served Obama best, he would feed you an original birth certificate on national TV. Bon appetit to those who allowed this conspiracy theory to take precedence over the genuine legal issue: how a person born owing certain allegiance to a foreign nation can be a natural born citizen of the United States? Since the BC was played so perfectly by the Obama team, the genuine legal issue will now be more marginalized than ever.

    They simply played a better game of chess. And due to this sick game, Obama now sets a precedent that anyone who hates this country, from Osama Bin Laden to Kim Jong Il, can have a child with an American woman and that child can be President. Obama’s defeat of the dual nationality issue, in both the courts and the media, means that the President’s parents do not have to be US citizens. If that is true, then the natural born citizen requirement in Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution is basically rendered meaningless.

    If a person born with dual allegiance can be President, then I don’t see the difference between a citizen and a natural born citizen. To become naturalized as a US citizen, one must at least swear an oath of allegiance to the US by renouncing all other allegiances. But a person such as Obama, who was born with dual allegiance is apparently not even required to renounce all previous allegiances under oath.

    The BC was a conspiracy theory. The dual nationality issue is a legal question. Obama always controlled the issue of whether or not he would produce the BC. But the legal issue was never under his control. So he exercised as much control over it as possible by allowing the birth certificate to fester casting a huge shadow over his dual allegiance. Well played, sir.

    by Leo Donofrio, Esq.

    • just an update on O.s brother Mark. Now he’s got a website promoting himself. told ya he’s working on an ambassadorship. He’s not quite there yet but he’s working hard on. And there is Harley Seyedin again his faithful promoter. His performance of Chopin is quite good, but you have to watch it. He must have hemroids or something cause I have never seen a performer make quite the expressions he is making. His performance as a surfer is what one would call very “Geeky” and is lacking, but hey, he’s got other talents going for him. He’s stretching it though. This guy looks filipino chinese, and that would be why he already speaks mandarin chinese so well. There is just something creepy going on. I have only read exerps of his book but if those are any indication of his best work ,it’s a loser. Didn’t know where to put this and I just thought it would be a nice break from the ominous BC issue that’s filling up the airwaves. You guys can move this if you like. http://markobamandesandjo.com/home.html

      • baby barky hiding in plain sight

        from Alfy’s link

        here’s a guy that won’t even divulge his birthdate, wonder why.

      • baby barky hiding in plain sight

        from Alfy’s link

        here’s a guy that won’t even divulge his birthdate, wonder why. Also, note in his commentary “about the novel” he mentions the search for his “true identity”. i guess so.

      • Sorry about the double post…

        Note also on this website, the guy declares himself as an American…

        what did I miss after all this time — American? how so?

  4. Hey, I repeat , he looks filipino Chinese, get it ! Phillipines , like around 1965, another little kid comes to town. I’m just sayin.You never know with this crowd.

    • I hear you, alfy. Another little Filipino, maybe half black. And one as creepy when he’s grown as the other. Just sayin. Very creepy.

  5. How are Patriots going to get anywhere on the BC issue if SCOTUS will not hear an Eligibility case, congress will not investigate and even the “conservatives” in the media have accepted bo’s latest forgery as legit?

    Just asking.

  6. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/

    Expert: No Doubt Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Legit

    It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

    But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

    The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

    But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

    “You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

    How are Patriots going to get anywhere on the BC issue if SCOTUS will not hear an Eligibility case, congress will not investigate and even Fox and “conservative” talk show hosts have accepted bo’s latest forgery as legit?

    Just asking.

    • Hey Tremblay… You’re Fired! Whatever good name you had..gone! Integrity…shot! We the people… not be suspicious? That part is a joke right?

    • That last date he talked about was the certified by Onaka date, wasn’t it? And the other was a date somebody pointed out as different from the format of dates on the Nordyke bc’s. That hyphen before the 8 in Aug -8 1961. The whole thing is SO phony looking. Not just the U k l Lee but the local registrar on Barry’s should be the same as the Nordyke girls, IF they were born in the same place just one day apart. Right? So is this Tremblay expert the son of the Canadian hockey player, or what? They had to go to Canada to find an expert to vouch for Barry’s phony bc? http://www.proficiografik.com/wp-content/themes/proficio/images/jctremblay_cv_e.pdf

  7. Obama’s half-sister raises birth-certificate doubts
    Claims despite ‘adoption’ by Indonesian stepfather, it is U.S. ‘law’ that matters

    April 28, 2011 Snips

    A statement from Barack Obama’s half-sister has at least cast a shadow of doubt on the legitimacy of the “Certificate of Live Birth” document that was released by the White House this week in an attempt to stifle questions about his eligibility, by referencing his apparent adoption by her father, Indonesian Lolo Soetoro.

    On a Facebook page, Maya Soetoro-Ng wrote to a woman who had met her in Hawaii after Madelyn Dunham, the mother of Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro and grandmother to both Maya and Barack, passed away in 2008. Soetoro-Ng was objecting to having a conversation with a critic of her half-brother, and said she had been misquoted as saying her whole family was Muslim. She wrote, “I did not say my brother was a Muslim. I did say that I was more philosophically Buddhist. I told you that you were upsetting me. You said that you were not trying to upset me but wanted to know the truth about (Raila) Odinga (a Muslim for whom Barack Obama campaigned in the 2007 presidential race in Kenya). I told you I didn’t know who that was and had never met him. You mentioned the adoption laws of Indonesia that you saw as related to my brother’s legitimacy (you were suggesting that because my father, his stepfather, had adopted him, that my brother was no longer American) and I said that I had no idea about Indonesian adoption law.”

    Tonya Franklin, the woman who had the exchange with Soetoro-Ng, said she had been researching a variety of subjects and had traveled to Hawaii. She went to the apartment of Madelyn Dunham, who passed away shortly before the election in 2008. She had left a message at a school for Soetoro-Ng and then bumped into her in the parking lot.

    “She believed he had been adopted,” Franklin told WND of what she got out of the conversation. But she also said Soetoro-Ng was uncertain of the process that might or might not have taken place – the legalities and formalities. That conversation happened several years ago, but the Facebook exchange came just days ago.


    WTPOTUS is identified in this article as Internet Researchers once again, for information regarding Lia Soetoro Sobat, the adopted sister of BHO.

  8. The legal case against Obama’s eligibility
    April 29, 2011
    By Phillip Berg Snips


    (Lafayette Hill, PA – 04/28/11) – Philip J. Berg, Esquire…..stated that Obama’s release of this document that Obama calls his long form Birth Certificate raises further questions of the legitimacy of the document itself. Moreover, even if it were a legitimate birth certificate, which it is not, it still does not answer the question of Obama’s Constitutional Eligibility. Berg said, “The Birth Certificate issued by Obama on national Television, have missing factors: Mother’s address; length and weight of baby; and where the signature of Stanley Ann Dunham appears, it says “mother or informant”. Additionally, the authenticity of the document itself is already being questioned for many reasons” Berg continued, “Even if Obama could produce a long form Birth Certificate, which is highly doubted, it fails to answer the questions into Obama’s adoption in Indonesia.”

    From the legal research we have done, it appears that Soetoro became an Indonesian citizen. When Soetoro/Obama was approximately four [4] years old his parents divorced and thereafter, Soetoro/Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia. Evidence points to the fact that Lolo Soetoro either signed a government form legally ‘acknowledging’ Soetoro/Obama as his son or ‘adopted’ Soetoro, either of which changed any citizenship status Soetoro/Obama had to a “natural” citizen of Indonesia.

    At the time Barry Soetoro was in Indonesia, all Indonesian students were required to carry government identity cards or Karty Tanda Pendudaks, as well as family card identification called a Kartu Keluarga. The Kartu Keluarga is a family card which bears the legal names and citizenship status of all family members.

    Soetoro/Obama was registered in a public school as an Indonesian citizen by the name of Barry Soetoro not allow foreign students to attend their public schools in the late 1960’s or 1970’s, and any time a child was registered for a public school, the child’s name and citizenship status were verified through the Indonesian Government.

    See [there is]no way for Soetoro/Obama to have attended school in Jakarta, Indonesia legally unless he was an Indonesian citizen, as Indonesia was under tight rule and was a Police State. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia (Undang-Undang Dasar Republik Indonesia 1945), Law No. 62 of 1958. These facts indicate that Obama/Soetoro is an Indonesian citizen, and therefore he is not eligible to be President of the United States. and his father was listed as Lolo Soetoro, M.A according to the Indonesian school records. Indonesia did Constitution of Republic of Indonesia (Undang-Undang Dasar Republik Indonesia 1945), Chapter 13, Law No. 62 of 1958 (all citizens of Indonesia have a right to education).

    Under Indonesian law, when a male acknowledges a child as his son, it deems the son, in this case Soetoro/Obama, an Indonesian State citizen. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia, Law No. 62 of 1958 concerning Immigration Affairs and Indonesian Civil Code (Kitab Undang-undang Hukum Perdata) (KUHPer) (Burgerlijk Wetboek voor Indonesie).

    Furthermore, under the Indonesian adoption law, once an Indonesian citizen adopts a child, the adoption severs the child’s relationship to the birth parents, and the adopted child is given the same status as a natural child and the child takes the name of his step-father, in this case, Soetoro. See Indonesian Constitution, Article 2.

    Further, there is no evidence that Soetoro/Obama ever ‘legally’ changed his name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama – therefore his legal name is still ‘Barry Soetoro’.

  9. http://theconservativemonster.com/2011/04/29/certificate-of-live-birth-birthplace-kenya-registered-in-honolulu.aspx

    This was SIGNED by Obama’s GRANDMOTHER. She reported Obama’s birth that took place in a Kenyan Hospital. NOTICE it says Hospital – Unknown Kenya, Africa.

    One of the many thousands of loyal Conservative Monster fans sent me this link. I must say that if this photo is genuine…this explains why that piece of crap that Obama released the other day was allegedly EDITED with Photoshop

    NOTICE: At the bottom of this copy of the COLB it states Birthplace Kenya; Registered Honolulu – Per Grandmother.

    I suspect that this was the original that was edited and posted on the White House website. This explains why Obama’s mothers signature looked like it was added onto the document. They had to cover the signature of Obama’s grandmother. Version released by the White House

  10. This is fantastic.
    Washington Times: Congress & FBI Need To Investigate Obama’s New Forged Birth Certificate

    Video: In an exclusive April 29, 2011 interview on Exopolitics TV with Alfred Lambremont Webre, Robert Stanley, weekly correspondent for the Washington Times investigative radio, has stated after a clear on-camera demonstration that purported certificate of live birth released by U.S. President Barack H. Obama on April 27, 2011 is a forensic forgery.

    Mr. Stanley had earlier on April 29, 2011 reported this breaking news on Washington Times investigative radio while being interviewed by reporters John McCaslin and Amy Holmes, also a correspondent for CNN. -Text via 68Truthseeker. Hat tip to Commander Kerchner.

    FBI will probably get involved and a Congressional Investigation will probably be started. This is Larger than Watergate in its scope and application..I fear for the nation. This is uncharted waters …


    Washington Times: Newly Released Obama Certificate Forensic Forgery

  11. http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/critics-argue-obama-s-long-form-birth-certificate-is-fake

    Jim Hoft of Gateway Pundit posts information he says was provided by a computer graphics expert who has written 17 books on the subject. According to that post, the document is clearly faked. Hoft also provides the image of a Hawaiian birth certificate for comparison.

  12. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2712433/posts

    There’s an interesting image at the beginning of that link that shows how the CGCC had to have been (if real) taken out of the typewriter and put back in because the typing doesn’t line up correctly. This is why the folks who created this thing probably screwed up. They are likely youngsters who have little if any knowledge of typewriters. Somebody who was accustomed to typing up forms like that would have set “tabs” and everything would have lined up relatively the same, from Barry’s to the Nordykes’ bc’s, if you get my drift. When they were cutting and pasting using their graphics software, it didn’t occur to them that they also had to make sure to line up the data fields to mimic typewriter tabs.

    On a lot of the stories I read, they ask what the handwritten numbers are that you see next to some of the information. I think they’re keypunch codes. For example, next to BHO Sr.’s race, there’s a 9. I interpret that to mean that they want us to believe that the keypunchers were told to code his race as the ninth race: “other non-white.” SADOS’s race is 1; I’m guessing that’s “white”. In the first page of comments on this post, Bridgette gave us a link to a blog by Helen, who delineated the race codes in use back in 1961. There were 9 of them. The first one was “white”.

    People also asked about the two X’s written in the box for single birth, twin, triplet. Those are there because this was a single birth. The keypunchers probably keyed in something like SXX. If you look at the Nordyke BC’s, they have an X in the box for twin and above that for the first twin are the numbers 1, 2; and on the other twin, 2, 2. That means they coded one as “one of two” and the other as “two of two”. The keypunchers might have keyed in 212 for the first twin and 222 for the second.

    Keypunch codes were used to abbreviate information so it would fit on punched cards, which is probably how they kept the records used to create the computer-printed index and other birth reports. The cards would be sorted on whatever key field they wanted the report listed by (for example, alphabetically by name) and then they ran them through the computer and it printed those index lists.

    • Because so many people don’t realize what those handwritten codes are, I wonder if the forgers hadn’t a clue, either. In which case, perhaps the REAL father WAS an “other non-white” who didn’t fit into the Negro category. Unless a black person was also part Hawaiian, that person was to be coded as Negro.

      Here’s what Helen reported:
      “In 1961, the U.S. Department of Health, Education, and Welfare classified non-Whites, who were not Asian, Eskimo, Aleut, Hawaiian, part-Hawaiian, or other “non-White,” as “Negro.” The U.S. Census Bureau also used the term “Asian and other Pacific Islander” in 1961, which included Filipino, Hawaiian, and part-Hawaiian. The Census Bureau, like HEW, used the term “Negro” to describe blacks and those of black descent. The term “mulatto,” used to describe those of mixed white and black ancestry, ceased being used by the U.S. Census Bureau in 1918.

      1961 Vital Statistics of the United States;
      U. S. Dept. of Health Education, and Welfare;
      Public Health Service;
      National Center for Health Statistics;
      National Vital Statistics Division;

      Race and color

      Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and “other nonwhite.”

      The category “white” includes, in addition to persons reported as “white,” those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father. The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian. In most tables a less detailed classification of “white” and “nonwhite” is used.” http://www.t-room.us/2011/04/mr-president-your-official-document-maker-czar-has-made-a-fool-of-you/

      At this point, my head is spinning. Can anybody deduce anything from this? I’m assuming the father was coded as “other non-white”. So that would seem to me to mean he was not Negro nor was he part-Hawaiian. Am I thinking wrong here?

  13. What if the father was Lolo? He’d be an “other non-white”.

  14. Jesse was feeling left out so he had to comment! Of course the controversy is about race..what else? We even have a coded and covert language! Our code is truth..no wonder the Left can’t get it!

    Questions about President Obama’s birth certificate are coded and covert rhetoric to stir up racial fears
    Rev. Jesse Jackson
    Sunday, 01 May 2011 11:14 Snips from the Racist Monger’s pulpit

    The legitimacy of President Obama’s citizenship is unquestionable. [Only in the world of the Left!] While his birth in Hawaii has been proven and documented over and over again, hopefully by releasing the “long form” of his birth certificate the issue will be put to rest once and for all. Only the conspiracy theorists and the “birther” fringe will cling to their belief that President Obama is a “foreigner, un-American,” and continue to question the legitimacy of his presidency.

    Yes, Donald Trump has accomplished something important—undermined the seriousness of his potential presidential candidacy, destroyed his credibility and affirmed his talent for self-promotion.

    The birther fringe and those continuing to challenge the legitimacy of the President’s birthplace might be an irritating distraction were it not for the fact that they represent the outer layer of a more fundamental, ideologically based states’ rights movement. Their “questions” about President Obama’s birth certificate, his religion, and most recently his college admissions, are silly and based upon unfounded accusations—coded and covert rhetoric to stir up racial fears.

    It is not just the birth of President Obama that is at stake. Those leading the charge for states’ rights are against the birth of EEOC. They are against the birth of contract compliance. They are against the birth of Title IV. They are against the birth of Affirmative Action. They are against the birth of the Voting Rights Act. The attack against the President is really an attack against the birth of the Civil Rights Movement. [Way to stoke it Jesse!]


  15. [You just wait Barack Obama, you just wait! (sung to the tune in My Fair Lady..You just wait ‘enry ‘iggins, you just wait!]

    Payback! Obama roasts Trump over birthers… as The Donald glowers in the audience at annual Press dinner
    Last updated at 6:37 PM on 1st May 2011

    Barack Obama tried to make light of the ‘birther’ issue, performing a stand-up routine of sorts at the annual White House Correspondents’ Association Dinner – in front of his arch-tormentor Donald Trump. His speech began with a pre-produced music video, with large screen showing shots of Americana interspersed with images of Mr Obama’s recently released birth certificate. The soundtrack was the Rick Derringer song Real American and, as the music boomed around the Washington Hilton ballroom, the lyrics ‘I am a real American’ took on ironic significance because of the controversy.

    With effortless comedy timing, the President began his speech with: ‘My fellow Americans… Mahalo.’ He added: ‘Just in case there are any lingering questions, tonight I am prepared to go a step further. Tonight, for the first time, I am releasing my official birth video.’ The screens came to life again, this time showing the birth of Simba from the Disney film The Lion King.


  16. Bloomberg On Obama’s Eligibility; $50.00 Social Security Cards
    Bllomberg on Sunday Fox Business with Chris Wallace

    The lies out of his mouth!

  17. The Antiseptic to Obama is to throw a Tea party
    April 22….Snips

    Never before in the history of the United States has an occupant of the White House displayed less concern for the Constitution and the rule of law than Barack Obama.

    Short of nuclear missles dropped on every major interior city and coastal port, there is only one thing which could bring down the U.S., and that is the destruction of the Constitution. Not that destroying the actual document would have any effect. No, it is the words contained in the document which hold the nation together. As long as there is a copy of it, the rules remain for all to see.

    Now, the only way to destroy those rules is to 1) make the people stupid, 2) make them dependent on government for food and shelter and 3) face or create a titanic national disaster which allows the political leaders to take on supra-constitutional powers for the duration of the emergency.
    The first two (education and the economy) are completed or nearly so.

    All you have to do to defeat the Progressives in the next election is to join a local Tea party group, or if there isn’t one, start one, yourself. This will cause an election map outcome in 2012 that at the very least leaves Obama isolated and incarcerated in the White House. With both federal houses of Congress in patriotic hands, the Supreme Court will be protected from the installation of a Progressive transplant. But, there’s more. The last election created a conservative takeover of a majority of governorships and state legislatures. Governors are fighting ObamaCare, right now. And, the secret to defeating disastrous Constitutional amendments is the state legislatures. That’s right, the key votes you need for Constitutional protection are the ones cast by your local state legislators. (Most people can’t even name their local state representative.)

    If you have a majority of conservatives controlling your state legislature, the U.S. Constitution cannot be altered. The Progressive lion’s teeth and claws have been all but pulled.


  18. Trump and the Hunt for Red Obama
    By Clarice Feldman
    May 01, 2011


  19. AP just reported Osama bin laden has been killed.

  20. Online ‘birth certificate’ document ‘was changed’
    Analysis raises possibility content of text was altered

    May 01, 2011 5:27 pm EST Snips

    A computer document expert who analyzed the online image of Barack Obama’s purported Certificate of Live Birth for WND confirmed there are anomalies inconsistent with a simple scanning process, and there is evidence it has been manipulated, but there’s no way to determine exactly what may have been modified.

    It was analyzed by Ivan Zatkovich of Tampa-based eComp Consultants, which consults on intellectual property for telecommunications, web publishing and ecommerce and has provided services for corporations such as McGraw-Hill, Houghton-Mifflin, Citicorp and Amazon.com. Zatkovich has 28 years experience in computer science and document management and for more than 10 years has been an expert witness providing testimony in federal court in both criminal and civil litigation.

    Among the various items that were separated into different layers include the main text, the mother’s occupation, the dates accepted, the stamp and signature of the state registrar and the time stamp of the state registrar: PHOTO

    The main layer of text reveals most of the wording on the document, with strange exceptions such as the first part of Stanley Ann Dunham Obama’s signature. The main text layer has only “unham Obama.” Likewise, “Kenya” is spelled “enya” and “Barack” is spelled Ba ack.”

    The report said in field 17a, for example, the question regards the “Type of Occupation Outside Home During Pregnancy,” and the answer is “None.” However, the “Non” and the “e” are on separate layers. Likewise with the date accepted. There “Date A” and “AUG – 8 6” are on a separate layer from the rest:

    The report said there are two groups of overlays, the first including the main page of text and a separate one with the mother’s occupation. The second group involves the stamps, with one of the local registrar, another from the registrar general, another for the state registrar and yet another for the time stamp of the state registrar.


  21. So much for Tremblay’s credibility! Other experts don’t agree nor do normal seeing American’s!

    Fox News document expert in tank for Obama?
    Man claims birth certificate real, but look how he’s championed president previously

    May 01, 2011

    WASHINGTON – A software and Adobe expert called on by the Fox News Channel to examine Barack Obama’s long-for birth certificate turns out to be a cheerleader for the “Yes We Can” crowd. Jean-Claude Tremblay of Montreal, Canada, billed by Fox as a “leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator,” is the first forensics analyst to weigh in on the validity of the document. He told Fox there is no doubt about the authenticity of the document.

    However, what Fox did not disclose is that Tremblay is an ardent Obama supporter.


  22. http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/05/02/was-recently-arrested-friend-obamas-former-drug-dealer/

    Sharon Rondeau has a great update on Barry’s friend Titcomb. See link above. And she linked to this story at Snopes http://snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp , which FALSELY states that Dr. West was the delivering obstetrician. It’s so hilarious because Snopes has added the long-form bc to their “debunking the birthers” story, but they FORGOT to change the article to take out the FACT that they formerly reported AS FACT that Dr. West was the delivering physician. They’re truly a regular riot! What “factcheckers”! But check out Sharon’s story because it shows people what real reporting and fact checking IS.

  23. Tuesday, May 3, 2011
    ObamaRelease YourRecords on 12:23 AM

    The Odds are Racist.
    by Miss Tickly

    I feel very sorry for Barrack Obama. The Odds are against him. The Odds must be racist.

    The fact is, when Obama released his long form birth certificate last week, some people (like myself) decided it was time to give Obama the benefit of the doubt. We decided it was best to accept the record as authentic…although in doing so, I also had to accept that Obama is a narcissistic, sociopathic asshole with horrible judgment and the maturity level of a seven year old brat.

    But none-the-less, I had all but resigned myself to this logical conclusion….until the Odds started whispering their racist hate-speech in my ear. Evidently, the Odds cannot stand that a black man is POTUS.

    The Odds say that Obama is a liar and a document forger. The Odds say Obama has been busy unfairly ridiculing ordinary American folks for asking a simple question. The Odds say Obama is a common criminal and that there is a conspiracy underway.

    In fact, the Odds say that Obama presented us with a poorly-made, phony birth certificate that likely came from one of the Nordyke twins’ birth certificates.

    Racist or not, the Odds are rarely wrong.

    Much has already been written on anomalies found in the electronic image of Obama’s ‘long form birth certificate’ (LFBC). Curiosity got the best of me and last night I started to take a closer look. Like others, I noticed type alignment inconsistencies right away. There are many of them, both horizontal and vertical, and they appeared to indicate the form had been ejected and reloaded into a typewriter multiple times before it was actually completed.

    Of course, this could be explained away by any Obot synchophant, yet one anomaly stuck with me. The spacing between the number ’4′ and the comma in Barrack’s day of birth. That space is too wide and inconsistent with the rest of the commas in the image.

    Why would someone have to remove the form from the typewriter after the number ’4′ and reinsert it at a later time to add the comma and year? It seemed so curious that I continued to examine the image for any signs that it may have been created from another image of a birth certificate. Logically, a birth certificate originating at around the same time from Kapiolani Hospital would be most ideal to use as a basis for a forgery, so I began to look for tell tale signs.

    Beginning at the top of the record, I noticed that the number ’1s’ in the pre-printed file numbers ’151′ were identical. Given the fact that this image is supposed to be a scan of a computer generated hard copy, I felt the odds were pretty amazing that these sets of pixels would be identical unintentionally.

    So, I kept looking…I wanted corroboration.

    Cont’s @ either link –



    • Tickly makes perfect sense.

      If we can see all of the imperfections in the new creation of Obama’s BC then we are all racists for having analytical skills that those non racists apparently don’t possess. I guess non racists are better liars too. I think they need new glasses.

  24. The only thing ludicrous about the birth certificate issue is the inescapable fact that Obama has never provided a single shred of VALID, CONCRETE EVIDENCE to prove who he is and where he was born.

    There are 306 million Americans in this country who have already shown, or will have to show, a TWO-SIDED, STATE-CERTIFIED, PAPER BIRTH CERTIFICATE IN PERSON.”

    alias Barack Obama is the ONLY PERSON in 306 million, minus the illegal aliens who were not born here, who can get away with showing an Internet image.

    How is that not “ludicrous?”

    How are liberals who believe this is OK are not “ludicrous?”

    Obama calls a press conference to talk about posting an Internet image when there is absolutely NO EXCUSE IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE for not bringing an ACTUAL, PAPER BIRTH CERTIFICATE with him to the conference and to show off both sides of it.

    He could have brought one on Oprah, the View, Letterman, Leno, or any of the gazillion other times he has been on TV to fuel his pathological narcissism.

    But, he has not.

    All we have, besides two phony digital images, is the hearsay and unsubstantiated statements by a liberal Native-Hawaiian bureaucrat, who has been in-the-tank for Obama and Abercrombie for years over her unquestioned support of the racist Akaka Bill, who is being investigated for fraud in connection to the phony Swine Flu pandemic/mass inoculation scam.

    The liberals who insist that Bush lied about 9/11, lied about WMD in Iraq, lied about OBL, lied about civilian surveillance, and that every bureaucrat who has supported Bush is also a liar and a fraud, to the point of them automatically negating everything they have ever said in support of Bush, decides that, NOW, this ONE bureaucrat is being 100% honest and that she does not have even the slightest conflict of interest here.

    The man who could corroborate her story – Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar and Head of Vital Records – has never been allowed to talk about it.

    ONE PERSON’s claim is not, and will never be, anything even remotely CONCRETE or IRREFUTABLE.

    An Internet image proves nothing.
    An Internet image, in this case, can prove forgery and identity fraud.

    You could not genetically engineer liberals to be more gullible than they are now, naturally.

    Amazingly, none in the press corps asked Obama, “Why are you not showing your paper birth certificate? Why can’t we see TANGIBLE PROOF?”

    Well, not amazingly, because the media are terminally ignorant, criminally negligent, and morally repugnant when it comes to hiding the truth about Obama.

    And, predictably, the brain-dead liberals in this country nod their bobbleheads in agreement when they leaned that another computer image has been posted – which is a forgery but not in the same league as the COLB forgery. Clearly, Obama does not care what gets put on the Internet.

    He could post an image of dog poop and convince the liberal media that it is really chocolate mousse.

    You want to talk about, “ludicrous?”

    Can we pay our taxes with Internet images of dollar bills?

    If a policeman stops us and asks for license and registration, can we whip out our smartphones and say, “There’s an app for that?” and him computer images on our Facebook accounts?

    Just how “ludicrous” is treating a digital image as being the same as a real tangible, and verifiable object when DIGITAL IMAGES DO NOT HAVE any inherent authenticity. They can be manipulated and fabricated without the public ever knowing the truth about them.

    But, let’s confine ourselves to the task of tearing apart this fake.

    There are a dozen things on Obama’s long-form that match other certificates, Gretchen Nordyke, Susan Nordyke, and Edith Coats, to be exact.

    These birth certificates were filled in, by typewriter, within a few days after a birth. They were not printed up ahead of time.

    For proof, you need only compare Susan Nordyke’s BC (on the left) with Gretchen Nordyke’s BC (on the right). The handwritten dates look different. The typed in information looks different (compare how “Gynecological Hospital” appears in both).

    In fact, if you just compared “Hospital” in Obama’s bogus BC to each of the Nordyke’s entries, it matches Gretchen’s and not Susan’s.

    But, Obama’s BC is not even close. First of all, it had to be resized, reshaped, and rotated at the corners and sides to fit the information that was cut from Gretchen’s, Susan’s, and Edith’s BC’s and pasted in Obama’s BC.

    Otherwise, Obama’s BC should not look as flat as it does – like the clearly-forged Booth black & white BC (which also was a rip-off of the Nordyke’s)

    The handwritten “Parent Date of Signature” in Obama’s most closely matches the handwritten date in Susan’s BC but not Gretchen’s.

    CONVERSELY, the handwritten “Attendant Date of Signature” in Obama’s most lcosely matches the same handwritten date in Gretchen’s BC and not Susan’s.

    Can you say, MIX-N-MATCH???”

    The Signature of the Local Registrar matches Edith Coat’s BC, written on June 19, 1962.

    But, both Nordyke babies had a different local Registrar sign the forms – a Deputy Registrar.

    HOW is it we have two different mothers of children born 19 hours apart, two different attendants, and two different local registrars on three BC’s with the same dates and handwritten signatures?

    Ludicrous, much?

    The Coats BC had the dates typed in, along with the Attending physician’s name. But, “C I C L. Lee” not “U K L Lee” is the signature of the local Registrar. There is no mistaking this “C” for the “U” on Obama’s BC.

    The reason why a “C” looked anything like a “U” is because of warping – as I said above, the image of the BC template was resized, reshaped, and rotated.

    I can put all of these things in a video, if need be, but everyone and his mother seems to be coming out of the woodwork to analyze this to death.

    The bottom line is that (a) it is a forgery, and (b) it changes absolutely nothing.

    alias Barack Obama is an illegal undocumented alien (well, falsely documented) who said in 2004 that “My life is literally an open book,” and in a nutshell, it is nothing more than a completely fabricated fairytale from the warped mind of “Professor” William “I wish I could have bombed more people” Ayers.

    As of this date, I have annotated 145 photos alleged to support Obama’s bogus biography, pointing out where any why they are faked – just as Miri, et al. have done here.

    Everything about Obama has been faked and fabricated. He could kill 100 Bin Ladens and that won’t change the reality that we have an imposter in the White House taking his marching orders from a shadow government.

    • Dr. P….Can you respond to what we found when we downloaded the file from the Whitehouse please. In properties, on mine it says Created August 30, 2010. Did you download the PDF also?

      The questioning starts here (above in this thread).
      Bridgette | April 28, 2011 at 1:38 pm

      Miri, I have about the same information except Check out

      Name of File: 002-BEG-1859-07-15-01-SINGLE.PDF

      Created: Monday, August 30, 2010, 12:22:20 PM

    • Thanks Dr. Polland

    • Great line… “He could post an image of dog poop and convince the liberal media that it is really chocolate mousse.”

      We are doing what we can to prove his latest creation another forgery..but the media is now hooked on the news of the day…Osama and what a great leader we now have in Obama. Never mind his incompetence up to this point and his intent to destroy our way of life. Now he is finally showing he has a spine. If you don’t believe me, just look at the ladies on The View, who fell all over his majesty’s magnificence. Don’t forget Oprah’s interview with the Marxist family recently where Michelle couldn’t clap hard enough for her husband finally producing another “authentic” BC. The fawning has been reinvigorated for the campaign. This is now Obama’s fall back..as there is nothing else that he has done that has had any positive impact on our country, our nation. Now he can appear as a patriot. Listen for the music in the background.. they even starting playing the presidential song when he enters a room. Alexrod and Plouffe are workin’ their black magic.

      “C I C L. Lee” is a name I don’t remember seeing before.

      • OMG. How transparent. Are they really playing Hail to the Chief now? It never ends. I have one question: Will he bring the styrofoam Greek columns to Ground Zero on Thursday?

        • They are being erected as I write! I think they had some of the “Together We Thrive” tee shirts left over from the “Memorial” service too, and those will be handed out. Never let a good tee shirt go to waste!
          The unions will be there to welcome him in NY in full regalia..new tee shirts!

          They played America in the background when he gave his speech about Osama and ended his speech “with liberty and justice for all!” He is such the patriot, don’t you think?

        • They are being erected as I write! I think they had some of the “Together We Thrive” tee shirts left over from the “Memorial” service too, and those will be handed out. Never let a good tee shirt go to waste!

          The unions will be there to welcome him in NY in full regalia..new tee shirts!

          They played America in the background when he gave his speech about Osama and ended his speech “with liberty and justice for all!” He is such the patriot, don’t you think?

    • Dr. P.: Please tell us how you REALLY feel! 🙂

      Great analysis. I didn’t even notice that C in the registrar’s name versus the U on Barry’s. However, I do believe that we can’t ignore the distinct possibility that, because they knew they were putting out a bogus “document” that the lamestream lapdogs would lap up and NOT examine, much less “out” AS FAKE, Barry and his peeps could not resist the “joke” and the symbolic thumbing of their noses at We the People. So rather than warping, I think somebody thought this would be just hilarious to make the registrar U K L Lee. Putting that aside, however, IS the Edith Coats COLB legit? I don’t remember seeing it until this past week. Where did it come from and where was it first revealed? Since Barry’s is based upon it and the Nordykes’ (that woman who WORKED at the East/West Center and so was associated with Lolo and “Ann” at least by being in the same place close in time), then I wonder if any of the exemplars are REAL.

      Please, Dr. P., do answer Bridgette’s question about the PDF creation date.

  25. What is the “clearly-forged Booth black & white BC (which also was a rip-off of the Nordyke’s)” referred to in Dr. Polland’s post?

    • Good question, as I reread Dr. P’s words, I also wonder what that means. Dr. P., are you stating that Miki Booth’s BC is forged also?

      • I hope he is not referring to any of the BCs supplied by Miki Booth. If so, he loses all credibility with me (sorry). Also, I don’t think you can draw absolute conclusion from an interpretation of someone’s signature. People develop a way of signing their names that is unique, but not necessarily legible. Whether its a CIC (I doubt) or UK, I’d bet money those are the same signatures.

      • Don’t know why/how this could be significant, it’s just weird, but go to page 41 of the INS documents and look at the date Sr. wrote for when his time extension is to expire. First the date itself caught my eye, then how it is written caught my eye.

  26. http://www.americanembassyinformation.com/jakarta-indonesia.html
    Bridgett , for some time now I have mulled over some possiblilities of some things that possibly existed during Ann’s ,Little B.’s, and Soetoro’s passport, marriage,adoption issues. Not knowing where to begin is getting ever more difficult. Everytime the issue of Soetoro adopting B. comes up I get a flood of questions. I’ll see if I can stay on topic in good order.
    One question comes to mind right off. It is possible Ann never had to become a citizen if she got an official job of some sort at the Embassy. That is no one . Of course she may have needed to satisfy Soetoro and become a citizen and have her son become a citizen to satisfy some other Indonesian issue. However, notice in this post I sent, where you can obtain , register, i.e., births, deaths, and various other certificates. Ann would have possibly had access. It is nothing new that people have fraudulently created documents for all sorts of purposes. On the other hand, if Ann wanted to become a citizen of Indo. it is hard to tell. She does seem to come and go about every five years, but it is hard to tell if that is truely consistant, same with O’s. The same goes for Soetoro. Was he going back to Indo. to keep his own citizenship status?had he not gone back when he did he would have possibly been met with some legal rangling,or become stateless as they say. Was he trying to become a citizen also of US? Or at least leaving himself this option. Noramally , at that time and alien must reside for five years before being eligible for naruralization; but if married to a US citizen, he becomes eligible in three. Soetoro, did go to California at some point. I have heard different stories. He had married Ann , seemed to prove permanent residency at times. These issues are not clear. The Same goes for O. Sr. One reason O. would not have listed his residency with Ann or not listed B. would be either to disassociate himself with her in order to (fraudulently)not be liable for adultery or polyomy; At one point he lists her, then he suspiciously doesn’t.
    Back to an issue on Ann and her employment. If anyone can find Indonesian law on this matter it would help. I have seen some on this but it is not clear either.I have seen a law pertaining to an Indonesian wife and alien husband and law reguarding the adopted child. The laws are different the other way around,an indonesian husband and alien wife…..which at the time Ann goes the first time to Indo. she is not a citizen simply by marriage and neither is the son. But law on this matter says something to the effect that they can request to be citizens and go thru what seems like a quicker process for citizenry but still a process…..which I haven’t seen that exact process. Women did not have the same rights in respect to these laws and ownership of their children. I think this area of understanding would help clear up what really took place. I or we can only speculate here if we don’t know. Something I came across with respect to her employment still has me perplexed, but again could be a big deal in how Ann and O.jr. were treated and their citizenship.” In the US involving employment (by or in) a foreign government” is important. Our law back then states “that such employment is a ground for expatriation if nationality in the foreign state is a prerequisite to such employment. IT SAYS “obviously this does present a problem of divided allegiance, and you would be wise to seek counsel before embarking on any such venture, lest you chance the loss of your most valued citizenship. The nature of the employment will, of course, be considered. ”
    This of course has me wondering the importance of her finding work thru the venue she took. And how did it effect her and her son.We hear that Lolo adopted O. but in this divorce from an Indo. citizen who now has propriety of her son ,how is it he comes back into the country alone and on what passport? Did Ann falsify something for him. Did she create doc.s for herself all the time. Was it Jkarta’s US Embassy that was maybe more lax, that she felt at ease with and it that why she stayed there in and out so much? Read this, it is short but it does allude to what may have been even more easy to do back in the 60’s.

    • I did read in some article that in 1980, Ann worked FOR the Indonesian government. But that would be 1980, not 1966 or whenever Barry would have been made an Indonesian citizen.

      • Miri, all the stories have been that Ann took a job with the US embassy in Jkarta and it was while married to Lolo while B was a child. Barak says this in his book, which I discustedly read. several sources say she was teaching English at the embassy and other sources say various secretarial type work. She was trying, remember to get that job before she left for Indo in the very beginning. This is the first hint at her job thru the Ford Foundation as they had an office at the Embassy. They could have also requested thru their own affiliation that Ann be given special citizenship waivers, or a company can request Indo. citizenship application on her behalf.This was true since Indo.’s 1958 laws. Any person deemed valuable to Indonesia economically, or otherwise may be given consideration in regard to their citizenship status. She woud have still had to have something verifying this and we don’t see any evidence of really anything. The main thing though is that Barak would not have been able to up and come back so easily at 10 years old and by himself as an Indonesian citizen . It just didn’t work this way. Indo law would have marched right over and taken him back. Or he would have been held as property at deportation til such matter could be cleared up. He could not be both. Indo law did not recognize dual citizenry. We wouldn’t have let him in and unless there was some special papers accompanying him,saying he could stay here as an alien (because of endangerment or something to that effect) he would not have made it here as an indo. citizen. This only creates more questions than answers but I hope someone can help. This does not dispute what Phil Berg says intirely. He is merely going on the only facts we are given that is verifiable.That’s the problem. As long as we are not given the whole we can’t deduce. I say we must create knew possibilities and assume many new variables to plug the holes they have purposely left out in this story. In B’s book he makes it pretty clear his mothers job in Indo was at the embassy and during the Suharto takeover, the 60’s . The fact that we don’t know to what extent Ann had already been a traveler before 1965 does not mean she hadn’t already been one. Perhaps taking the name Stanley aided her to use some of her fathers nefarious paper work. Who knows. We do see she is renewing a passport from one in 1961, but we don’t know what this pertains to. How many identities had little Stanley Ann, shirley, Phyllis, kelly have by the time she took off for Indonesia?AND WHY!

  27. http://www.mckinleyirvin.com/resources/articles/International-travel.html Read here on a child entering the US with one or no parent. A birth certificate seems to be the norm. And Barak would not have been able to enter if he wasn’t a US citizen, unless there was some special prevision or document that we are not aware of. He as a minor would have been (by our laws), if he was illigitimate in the US (as was possible),he would have been in the custody of his mother and the citizenship of his mother. I am led to think that Ann didn’t claim B. Sr. on a certificate until she needed one to travel ,so she created an agreeable black father around mid 1960,s. Remember she is asked about the citizenship of her son. She creates a divorce paper,yet why not just show a birth certificate. But they have us over a hump with this. We are led to believe by Indo. standards Lolo adopted him so he was indo. citizen, yet a minor cannot lose his citizenship rights to the country of his birth by renunciation.Yet we assume he is Indon. citizen. by virtue of an indo. adoption. But I repeat, an unaccompanied Indonesian child would not have gotten into this country. We are not getting total facts purposely of course. I meant to post an article about a man at the us embassy in Indonesia in 2003 who had created fraudulent documents for years and how easy he had gotten away with it. It is short and it gave a lot of food for thought. Don’t know where the heck I put it but will find it. I hope I have raised some questions. I am sure many of you are thinking we covered this and I of course will probably get ridicule but please just see what you dig up on these areas of law. I may be incorrect,but I don’t mind backing up if we can get further.

    • I linked a story yesterday about Titcomb. An update about him from the Post & Email. I think it’s on the other thread, but my point is that in that story, an informant told Sharon that an original birth certificate was required for every kid to enter Punahou and that they were EXTREMELY selective. A tiny proportion of kids who applied were accepted and usually a kid had to be on that path for YEARS. So how did Barry get in? And why was he such great friends with Titcomb, who was a year behind him? It’s suggested that Titcomb, who did NOT graduate because he was expelled, might have been Barry’s “supplier.”

      • I believe what you say,Miri that an original bc was necessary at Punahou. I wonder same things. Bridgett ,I mentioned Phil Berg and I read on Berg up above. That is why I refered to him. In a lawsuit, which I wish like H….. would get somewhere, he must use the law and facts available. He can’t base his suit on assumptions, at least not the way we can base our deductions. I wish some judge would at least hear anything, because this would open the door for more discovery of some legal facts, or maybe a court order to see more papers , and no more forged ones. If it went anywhere the first day we might could establish if there ever was a real Barry Soetoro or one fabricated on paper or when Barak actually became B.legally.
        I can’t help but believe B was getting special care and treatment from the time he shows up on that little baby blanket.Maybe a foreign born detainee, alien of important stature. Someone in exile. These are wild guesses, but Barak’s bratty, arrogance started very young. Who did he know himself to be? Someone has pumped him full of hot air very early on.
        got to go, but I am going to dig some on this more tonight.

    • As I recall, Phillip Berg Esq. did lots of work on this issue already. The answers would be on this website.

      Some questions might be answered in his latest article. It is above in the thread.
      Bridgette | April 30, 2011 at 11:29 am
      The legal case against Obama’s eligibility

    • Alfy, Good point but I have a question in my mind on this I keep thinking about. I read long ago that in Indo once of age if the minor now an adult does not keep the Indo citizenship it goes void and the citizenship of the person reverts back to the original citizenship. This could have happened ?
      I cannot get this possible out of my mind.

      • I’ll see if I can answer this with the feeble citizenship skills I have so far. In a way your question of .. an indonesian citizen declared by some act (you did not clarify by birth , adoption ect.)as a minor becomes an adult does not keep his Indo. citizenship. It goes void and reverts back to original citizenship. I am assuming you mean a child not born in Indo who becomes Indo. citizen in his youth . The question really only becomes an issue when a legal issue or something such as inheritance, or travel outside Indonesia where your passport is needed. If at 18 (or 21 can’t remember which it is for Indo.)as an Indo. citizen you decided to leave your country. You state your reason and typically show your papers (like birth certificates or other doc.s )At this point you would declare your Indonesian birth. If after many years you don’t come back, you could legally lose your citizenship status. However this is what countries try to avoid and establish your intentions when you come into this country, what kind of citizen you are and how long you will be here. You could not say “I was a US citizen at birth “and like magic they hand you over your new papers. You can’t be a dual citizen in Indo. and the US tries to avoid this as well. You would have to go thru some sort of process and apply to a process in the US in order to get your childhood place of birth legally establish by the court and have a permanent residence again for a matter of time before it was granted. Might even take court proceedings . While it does happen in the US ,a person of another citizenship has remained or stayed in this country without ever legally changing his or her statehood usually someone would notify some authority or The person’s own country would notify an authority or the person . Legally in a sense you have become stateless. On the other hand if you have been in this country for a number of years and want to resume your US citizenship (say 15 or 20 years) the process is shorter and different. You still have to denounce your citizenship in the other country even though you seem to have lost it . It legally is complicated.Because US and Indonesia have some similar laws concerning citizenship yet different as well, it is hard to go back and forth to explain this. The bottom line is this. Barack while having signed,(even though it may be fraudulent), a paper showing he signed that military paperthingy, and has resided most his years in this country has at least tried to say or prove outwardly that he is a US citizen. Everything he has shown us means nothing really. If he was any kind of US citizen when as a child,he went to Indo. there should be a record. We don’t know still what kind of citizen or foreign citizen that was and no passport paper tells us. When or if he was adopted by anyone, we have no verification of. A signature with his name as Barry Soetoro really is of little legal value unless more could be assigned to that name legally.The point at which he first (that we know of) comes back into the US at 10 years old is a crucial piece of this puzzle to me because he would have had to have a special provision or something to get back in if he now was an Indonesian minor. He could not be both a US and Indo Minor. It just doesnt work that way.Was he really never an Indo citizen, or did Ann fake his passport , or did she have some other special permission for him? There are people who are fraudulently dual citizens. Maybe that is what he was.Is this why B seems to travel back to Indo around 21 years if age. Is that to keep his fraudulent Indo citizenship up? Ann actually only seems like Barak’s agent , not a mother . My personal feeling anyway. From 1961 to 1979 when B graduates Punahou ,how many years was she actually with B? on what type passport does he travel to Africa with. I expect he has a knapsack full of various citizenships. He most definately would have had an Indo passport to travel to Pakistan as US were not permitted at that time in Pakistan. There is a racket of selling citizenship papers and passports in Africa. I imagine this goes on in other countries as well.Something else I had noticed and made a mental note of is that in Africa (at least in the 60’s) one could not inherit land unless you were a citizen. Interesting because remember the story ya’ll discussed a bit, something in reference to the heirs of Barak Sr’s property????

        • And, the Russians found his paperwork questionable when he and Lugar were detained before takeoff.

          Wonder why. Hmmmm.

  28. A comment and thought from CDR Kerchner (Ret) on the “assembled” PDF document put out on the internet by Obama:

    While this whole “assembled” PDF document the White House put out could be a ruse and trap to further embarrass the “birthers” as Mario considered in his new article, I had another thought. What’s to say that the copies given to Obama’s lawyer sent to Hawaii, and attested to by Hawaiian officials, actually show the same information on those two paper copies that is now being displayed on the internet in this very badly assembled PDF document.

    As I recall the former HI director when interviewed in recent weeks, she said when she saw the alleged original Obama birth registration document she said it was half typed and half hand written. What we are being shown on the net is something that is entirely typed except for the signatures. That does not comport with what the former HI Health Dept Director said.

    What if the Obama powers sent the lawyer to Hawaii to provide the necessary cover story that they did get two copies of the Obama vital record there … but the image on the net now is NOT of the paper copies that they picked up … say because there is something on it that Obama still does not wish to reveal. So he has a version cooked up once again to put online, and someone screwed up and did not flatten the PDF file prior to release to hide the layers. Would Hawaii officials speak up to affirm or deny that what Obama put on the net is not an image of the copy of what they gave to Obama’s lawyer. Or would they keep silent in much the same way they did regarding the Certification document, the short form images on the net since Jun 2008. Remember that Hawaii never confirmed that any of those images on the net were copies of something that they issued. Hawaii has been very willing to cooperate with Obama’s stonewalling and game playing regarding the vital records in HI for Obama. And, Obama is playing such a cat and mouse game with the American electorate about all his hidden records that one can never tell with him as to what is real or what is memorex. It is a disgrace how this administration is treating the American citizenry. And the main stream media does not call him out on this and instead helps and enables Obama to conduct such offensive disinformation tactics on the American electorate. Journalism no longer exists in this nation. The media should be ashamed.

    Just putting this out as food for thought as to what the usurper, conman, and grifter in the White House is up to this time.

    CDR Kerchner (Ret)


  29. More Big and Little Pixels (Simple Picture Shows Obama BC is Bogus

    May 2, 2011 | ML/NJ

    Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 6:32:31 AM by ml/nj

    In this single picture below it is easy to see that the signatures on the document come from different sources. The resolution on the Dunham signature (above) is higher than the resolution of the Sinclair signature (below) which is composed entirely of “big” pixels. The latest Bamie Birth Certificate is an obvious fraud.


  30. http://www.zogby.com/news/2011/05/03/16-all-voters-30-republicans-continue-believe-obama-not-born-us-/

    Not good poll results. 84% of Voters believe BO was born in the US. It appears that the majority of Americans bought BO’s fake BC and are not aware of the NBC issue.

  31. Mea culpa. I meant the “Blaine BC” not the “Booth BC” This is the b&w fake “birth application for BC” that appeared on Free Republic signed by “Madelyn Dunham” and “Martin Blaine Ericson”(forged of course) that claims a birth in Kenya under HRS 338-17.8 – which is the “chapter and verse” of the change in 1982 that allowed people to get a birth certificate if they were born overseas, and who established residency in Hawaii (see my last comments).

    This obvious forgery is a rip-off of the Nordyke’s just as is Obama’s

    Here is Edith Coates’ BC:

    Obama’s BC lifted the signature of the Local Registrar which may be the letters “C I C” and then “L. Lee.”

    IMHO, if CIC is an acronym, then it would stand for “Certified Infection Control (title=Officer or Liasion) L. Lee.” CIC is a certification that normally would follow a person’s name. But CIC Liasion is a title given the person in the DOH charged with handing responses to epidemics, pandemics, and bioterrorism.

    Hawaii would have had one, but as usual with Google these days, I cannot find a record of any Lee, or L. Lee, connected with the HDOH.

    That signature bothers me a bit because of how thick it is. It looks like Magic Marker, but, so are some of the pen points used in Chinese calligraphy.

    The bottom line is that everyone and his mother had ID’ed this as a fake, a joke, or a swipe at Bozo. Maybe the latter because Bin Laden turns up dead three days later to be the “distraction” away from the “prior distraction” of Obama refuses to release a real certified paper document.

    You know, the original COLB image put up on my.barackobama.com/factcheck, was released as a PDF file, but was replaced in the evening of 6/12/08, before my.barackobama.com/factcheck became “Fight The Smears” and was launched under its separate domain name.

    I never thought of opening it up in Illustrator. I converted it into a JPG and archived the original PDF file on a hard drive that crashed along with a jump drive that held it also.

    On the other hand, this PDF POS is, as they say, a “big distraction” but not things like the economy. It is intended to divert attention away from the COLB.

    The forger who made the PDF also fabricated the security paper as I described how to do in my videos released a year ago. Dropping out the background hides the evidence of fabricating the security paper from pieces of the background where the color intensities are maxed out, aka equalized. That alone renders it a fake.

    COLB paper has always been dark green patterns on light green paper. No matter the brightness or luminosity of the COLB scan. it will never be white in between the patterns.

    I sampled random color poins from the “security paper” background of Obama COLB image and compared them to the same areas on ten genuine scans of genuine 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009 COLBs. (The 2009 COLB is now called a “Certificate of Live Birth and went into effect in October 2008).

    Some of the samples taken from the Obama COLB, were almost pure white, like RGB 254, 255,253 (where pure white is 255,255,255, or the maximum intensities of these three colors). You could do a million scans on genuine Hawaiian COLBs, and you would never see dark green patterns on a white, or near white background.

    From a distance (or from when the image copy has been noticeably reduced in size along with reductions in quality level), the whitish areas of the background visually blend together with the dark green patterns, yielding a perceptually light green paper. Enlarging an image like the one on the Daily Kos or Factcheck will show you what I mean.

    The Obama Campaign pulled their original image copy directly from the Kos image, and first saved it at a 42% proportional reduction and plced into a PDF file. About two hours later, the image was “extracted” from the PDF, resized and resaved as a JPG but at another 57% reduction using the Saved for Web 30 compression routine (aka, Ducky).

    So, when you enlarge the Fight The Smears copy, all you see are “Smears” to hide the evidence of forging. 🙂

    Re: HRS 338-17.8

    As you may know, this practice of giving BC’s to people born overseas began with the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program, from 1911 until 1972.

    What also changed is how they now created a new “original birth certificate” to replace an existing original birth certificate as per the birth registrant ‘s request for a change to certain fields on the first original birth certificate, like to the name of the biological father who had his paternity established, or conversely, no father named on the BC because because paternity could not be established.

  32. The latest hearing on the eligibility issue and who has standing to file a lawsuit against Obama, and when a lawsuit should be filed, and who has jurisdiction pre and post election. I think it is about 50 minutes long, but worth it to see what we are up against. I haven’t checked to see what the judge’s decision was yet. This took place in the last couple days May 2nd? It was educational.

    CSpan Video Barnett/Keyes/Drake v Obama

    9th Circuit Court of Appeals, CA
    Kreep and Orly vs the US Dept of Justice from Los Angeles.


    • (This is a private opinion—NOT a court document. George gives a summary of the proceedings).

      Appeal Hearing: Barnett, Drake, Keyes, et al, vs. Obama, May 2, 2011

      George Miller on May 2, 2011 at 10:30pm

      After three years of work and multiple Obama eligibility cases dismissed or ignored, not on their merits, but on bizarre and possibly illegal technicalities, another one was resurrected and given a Federal Court of Appeals hearing today, in sunny Pasadena, CA. PREGERSON, FISHER, BERZON, CJJ (I think all Clinton appointees). Counsel of record: DeJute, David A., Assistant U.S. Attorney, Kreep, Gary G., Doctor Taitz, Orly, Counsel, Tucker, Christopher, Mr. West, Roger E., Supervisory Attorney


    • We need to stay focused on this. Do not get distracted by the Osama caper. It is to distract and raise crummy poll numbers… it is pure drama…. stay focused. Do not let the Osama drama take eyes off the real situation. Keep connecting…connections are surfacing thisfast.

      • Renee, I was going to make the same comment…if for no other reason than I think many many more people will be looking into that, and we “birthers” have once again become the small minority according to poll numbers. So, “we” need to stay on point, more than ever. JMHO of course.

    • The Los Angeles Times Covers Court Hearing of Obama Eligibility Case

      May 3, 2011
      Dear Editor:The following letter was sent today:
      Dear Ms. Carol J. Williams (LA Times reporter);

      Very nice coverage of this momentous event taking place in your community. Thank you for this article.

      Considering the amount of public exposure of the crimes committed by Mr. Obama in attaining the Office of the Presidency of the United States (your picture of Dr. Taitz with the fold-out display of public-document proof was most impressive), would lead me to ask: ‘What are you, and the Los Angeles Times, going to do about further investigation of these publicly exposed crimes?’

      Now that you are and your paper are fully aware (especially the laughably fraudulent Long Form Birth Certificate – even a 5th grader can see what a joke that is) of the multiple crimes committed by Mr. Obama in ensconcing himself in our White House, by fraud, dissembling, deception, and deceit, it would appear to me that, as reporters and guardians of the rights of the People, it is incumbent upon the Los Angeles Times to thoroughly investigate and report on these matters, lest you yourselves be chargeable with Misprision of Felony or Treason.

      Again, thank you for your excellent reporting. I look forward to your great follow-up exposés of the BirthCertifi-GATE, Social-Security-GATE, Selective-Service-GATE, Pelosi & the DNC-GATE, Columbia-GATE, and others too numerous to mention. They will make Nixon’s ‘Water-GATE’ look like child’s play; stories that guarantee a Pulitzer for the reporter(ess) that breaks them.

      Sincerely, Neil B. Turner

  33. Update: Is the Lack of an Embossed Seal the Key?

    May 5 Snips

    The image does not appear to contain an embossed seal, just as that of the “Certification of Live Birth” released on the internet in June 2008 lacked that sign of authentication.

    One similarity between the Certification of Live Birth and the image posted last Wednesday is that neither bears an embossed seal. However, the birth certificates released by Mrs. Nordyke do, in the bottom-middle section between the signatures of the Director of Health and the Registrar General.

    The U.S. State Department has strict requirements for those applying for U.S. passports, which the images Obama has claimed are his “birth certificates” do not meet because they lack an official seal. How, then, can these images be considered proof of anything? Why would they not have contained a seal from the state of Hawaii?

    Even after the release of the long-form image last week, Kapiolani Medical Center refused to confirm Obama’s birth there.

    Has the extensive foreign influence from Obama’s past manifested itself in his reluctance to take out America’s enemies with a “persistent hesitation to act”? Why was he described as “an absentee president,” having been called off of the golf course to attend a national security meeting shortly before the operation to kill bin Laden was carried out by Navy SEALS?


  34. Poll taken by Leftist Washington Post. Are you going to believe this?
    They use numbers from last year to compare? Why? No other polls help their propaganda meme?

    Poll: Birth certificate release placated most birthers
    Published: 11:24 AM 05/05/2011 | Updated: 4:00 PM 05/05/2011
    By Alexis Levinson

    President Obama’s decision to release his long form birth certificate has succeeded in taking the wind out of the sails of the birther movement, according to a new Washington Post poll. [no wind out of my sail..I am more convinced than ever that he is ineligible. Fake BC = Fake usurping squatter in the WH!]

    According to the poll, conducted in the days following the release of the birth certificate, just three percent of Americans believe that Obama was born in another country, compared to 14 percent in a poll released April 25 of last year. 77 percent now say that he was born in the United States, up from 68 percent last year.

    Moreover, the number of people who believe that there is solid evidence that Obama does not meet the requirement to be president has dropped precipitously in a year – from nine percent to a mere one percent. Of the 10 percent who continue to say he was not born in the US, 8 percent admit that this is ‘suspicion only.’

    The poll surveyed 1,006 adults by phone, on both landlines and cell phones, and has a sampling error of 3.5 percentage points. [Scientific poll?..did they call all democrats?]



    • A Blogsphere eclusive:
      “So progressive that the Constitution is totally defunct .. and yes, Kenya did exist in 1963 as the ‘Protectorate of Kenya’ under British rule. In 1963, British rule ceased and Kenya dropped ‘Protectorate’.

      Ladies and gentlemen, there is a MASSIVE cover-up underway.

      BOTH Natural born AND natural born citizen now return NO RESULTS in searches on ALL active online dictionaries, with the sole exception of Wikipedia, redirects to Wikipedia, and quotes from Wikipedia.

      Natural Born Citizen

      [link to dictionary.cambridge.org]

      [link to http://www.merriam-webster.com]

      [link to http://www.webster-dictionary.org]

      [link to oxforddictionaries.com]

      [link to http://www.onelook.com]

      [link to encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com]

      [link to http://www.yourdictionary.com]

      [link to wordcentral.com]

      [link to http://www.ldoceonline.com]

      [link to nhd.heinle.com]

      [link to encarta.msn.com]

      [link to http://www.hyperdictionary.com]

      [link to http://www.macmillandictionary.com]

      Proof that at least Oxford USED to have a definition:

      [link to en.wikipedia.org]

      This is some serious shit. Before Obama released his “long form” birth certificate last week, you could go to ANY online dictionary and view the definition of Natural Born Citizen, which is (roughly) as follows:

      Nat|u|ral Born (Nach’er el Born’, Nach’rel-), adj.

      1 That is so by nature, born so: a natural born boxer, a natural born fool. 2 Native of a country; not alien: a natural born citizen or subject.

      Photos of my own dictionary, World Book Edition copyright 1981:

      [link to i863.photobucket.com]

      [link to i863.photobucket.com]

      [link to i863.photobucket.com]

      The reason this is important is because right now, there is an ongoing debate over at Wikipedia due to the scrubbing of references to Emerich De Vattel’s work Law of Nations, right after Obama released his long form.

      [link to en.wikipedia.org]

      They have maintained here that since Vattel wrote in French, and his exact wording for Natural-Born is, “Les Naturales ou indigenes” which literally translated would mean “the naturals or natives”, Vattel can not be used as a reference for the wording of the Constitutional requirement of Natural Born Citizenship. But, Vattel’s definition (in English) is as follows:

      [link to http://www.constitution.org]

      § 212. Citizens and natives.

      The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

      Regardless of Vattels original wording, it should be obvious to any critical thinker that if he was talking about “naturals” and defining who they were, it was to take as self explanatory that 1) these individuals had been born, and 2) they were citizens. And considering that natural, native, and Indigenous are all synonymous, It can not be disputed that Vattel was speaking about a person who’s citizenship falls naturally upon them by virtue of birth, or to put it another way, a Natural Born Citizen. This work has been cited extensively by our forefathers, as can be witnessed in this video:

      There can be NO disputing the fact that the definition of Natural Born Citizen is indeed one who is born to TWO parents, who are BOTH citizens. It is now undeniable that there is a very serious cover-up going on regarding this Constitutional requirement. I wish to point out the VERY RAPID succession of events that occurred over the last week:

      April 27th

      In response to growing demands to release his long form birth certificate, Obama finally reveals it to the public.

      April 3oth

      Obama appears in front of guests and on national TV at the White House Correspondence dinner to gloat in triumph over the release of this Long Form Birth Certificate, even as concern grows over the real issue, his Natural Born Citizenship Status.

      May 1st

      In a MAJOR political move, Obama appears on live TV to announce the death of Osama Bin Laden earlier that day.

      People, this is a CUT AND DRY “Wag the Dog” Scenario! Our government has known Bin Laden’s whereabouts for at least five years, but they have been keeping him alive for a “Politically Expedient Moment”. That moment came last Sunday, and was used to distract the publics attention once and for all from his eligibility. The birth certificate NEVER WAS THE ISSUE! And with the disappearance of the definition from online dictionaries, there can be no refuting that SOMEBODY IS HIDING SOMETHING!

      I CAN NOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH: The REAL issue concerning Obama’s eligibility is and ALWAYS HAS BEEN, his Natural Born Status! Since his father was a Kenyan national and NEVER held US citizenship, OBAMA CAN NOT MEET THIS REQUIREMENT! The Birth certificate as I have ALWAYS maintained, was a distraction. But since that Distraction was discarded on the 27th, Bin Laden was given to use to replace it! Look at the facts:

      Obama created the conspiracy theory about his PLACE OF BIRTH by deliberately refusing to release the long form, for the sole purpose of distracting us from the REAL issue. He let it build for 3 years, going so far as to imprison Terrence Lakin for demanding proof of Obama’s eligibility. Focus began to shift this spring to the Natural Born requirement, and people began to point out the fact that he does not meet this requirement. When he finally released the Birth Certificate, he stated quite explicitly that “I know that theres going to be a segment of people for which, no matter what we put out, this issue will not be put to rest”. After a moment of triumph, Obama delivers up to us another mystery. Osama Bin Laden is dead, but we disposed of the body, and we WILL NOT be releasing any photographic proof of our claim. He then goes on to state that, “There are going to be some folks who deny it. The fact of the matter is you won’t see bin Laden walking on this earth again.”

      This is THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO he used with the Birth Certificate! He has created a second distraction to keep you away from his eligibility. The refusal to provide evidence of Bin Ladens death WILL create conspiracy theories, and THAT is what Obama is hedging his bets on. He has given us Bin Laden to keep us distracted!

      From above link

      • Exactly,Mt. kenya and Kenya named by some explorer at least couple hundred years ago.

      • “Bridgette | May 5, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Is the Lack of an Embossed Seal the Key?

        Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding!!!!!

  35. Gotta Thank the Globe! Buy one..because they keep the issue alive!

    Obama’s Birth Certificate is Phony!
    File Number is Fake!
    Trump: What else is the president hiding?

    The Truth About Obama’s Birth Certificate

    President Obama may have thought he put an end to the controversy over his origins by releasing the official “long form” version of his birth certificate, but experts claim it’s a fake! In a bombshell world exclusive, GLOBE reveals the stunning proof that could rock the White House to its very foundation. It’s a story EVERY American needs to read!


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