Muslim Children’s Education – How to Cut Off a Hand! (Open Thread)

Posted by Bridgette

Coming to our America?

Is it Already Here and Being Taught in Muslim schools?
The Sickness of the Barbaric Ideology is on Display!


British Pupils Taught Sharia Way to Cut Off a Thief’s Hand


By James Slack, Daily Mail, UK
November 22,2010

Children in Britain are being taught brutal Sharia law punishments, including how to hack off a criminal’s hand or foot!

So-called ‘weekend schools’ – which offer the hardline Saudi National Curriculum to Muslim children in the UK – also teach that the penalty for gay sex is execution and that ‘Zionists’ are plotting to take over the world for the Jews.

One set text book challenges youngsters to list the ‘reprehensible’ qualities of the Jews.

Another for six year-olds asks them to answer what happens to someone who dies who is not a believer in Islam. The answer being looked for is ‘hellfire’.

A BBC Panorama investigation, to be screened tonight, identified a network of more than 40 weekend schools teaching around 5,000 children, from age six to 18.

The schools are run under the umbrella of ‘Saudi Students Clubs and Schools in the UK and Ireland’.

They are not state-funded, and do not use Government buildings. They are able to exploit a loophole which means weekend schools are not inspected by Ofsted.

Last night, experts at the Policy Exchange think-tank warned that similar extremists could seek to exploit the Government’s policy of giving greater freedoms from state control to free schools and academies.

They call for the establishment of a Due Diligence Unit to check whether those applying to open the schools have an extremist background.

Current checks are largely limited to fraud, criminal convictions and funding.

Education Secretary Michael Gove, who is believed to be supportive of the idea, said he would not tolerate anti-Semitism and homophobia in English schools.

The Panorama investigation identified a book for 15 year-olds being used in the classes which teaches about Sharia law and its punishments.

It says:   ‘For thieves their hands will be cut off for a first offence, and their foot for a subsequent offence.’

There are diagrams showing children where cuts must be made.  One passage says:

‘The specified punishment of the thief is cutting off his right hand at the wrist. Then it is cauterised to prevent him from bleeding to death.’

For acts of ‘sodomy’, children are told that the penalty is death and it states a difference of opinion whether this should be done by stoning, or burning with fire, or throwing over a cliff.

Panorama alleges that a building used for one of the schools, in Ealing, West London, is owned by the Saudi government .

Mr Gove told the programme:    ‘I have no desire or wish to intervene in the decisions that the Saudi government makes in its own education system. ‘But I’m clear that we cannot have anti-Semitic material of any kind being used in English schools.   Ofsted are doing some work in this area.  ‘They’ll be reporting to me shortly about how we can ensure that part-time provision is better registered and better inspected in the future.’

In a written response to the findings, the Saudi ambassador said the schools had nothing to do with the Saudi embassy. It stated:

‘Any tutoring activities that may have taken place among any other group of Muslims in the United Kingdom are absolutely individual to that group and not affiliated to or endorsed by the Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia.’

Panorama separately claimed that some Muslim private schools have expressed extreme sentiments on their school websites.   These include:

‘We need to defend our children from the forces of evil’, and ‘our children are exposed to a culture that is in opposition to almost everything Islam stands for’.

Policy Exchange says Britain’s faith and other schools are increasingly vulnerable to extremist influences.

The authors claim the Department for Education, Ofsted,  education authorities and schools are ‘not equipped’ to meet such challenges.

Current checks for extremism are described as ‘piecemeal’.

The report adds:   ‘The Government’s policy of opening up the education system to new academies and free schools programmes could be exploited unless urgent measures are taken to counter extremist influence.’


70 responses to “Muslim Children’s Education – How to Cut Off a Hand! (Open Thread)

  1. O /T but relevant in its own way. Snips

    Saudi king to seek medical treatment in U.S.
    Nov 21, 2010 5:23pm EST

    Saudi Arabia’s elderly King Abdullah will leave for the United States Monday for medical checks for a back ailment, and Crown Prince Sultan is returning from holiday abroad, state media said Sunday.

    Western diplomats in Riyadh said the prince’s return indicate that kingdom, the which has no political parties or elected parliament, is trying to prevent a power vacuum and reassure Washington and other allies.

    A day before his departure, the king reappointed several officials close to his reform course, including Saudi Arabia’s relatively moderate top Islamic scholar and the ambassador to Washington.

    The king is thought to be 86 or 87 and Sultan is only a few years younger.

    Abdullah, valued by Washington as a moderate at the helm of a pivotal Muslim country, went into hospital Friday after a blood clot complicated a slipped disc suffered the week before.

    Fifteen of the 19 al Qaeda attackers were Saudis.

    Saudi Arabia has become key to global efforts to fight al Qaeda.

    Last week King Abdullah transferred control of the National Guard, an elite Bedouin corps that handles domestic security, to his son Mitab, and diplomats expect more royal moves.

    • This is the country that totally subjugates women. They cannot drive cars, but that’s the least of it. They must robe themselves in public. They cannot go out into the public unless accompanied by a male relative. Their husbands totally rule them. They cannot work in most jobs. In other words, they’re little more than slaves. And yet their ruler is “valued by Washington as a moderate.”

      I’d hate to imagine what “Washington” considers a radical.

  2. $100 Billion euro Bailout accepted by Ireland! For that, they lose some of their sovereignty. Complications of sharing the Euro! Spain may be next. Remember that we also help fund the IMF! The U.S. has a nearly 17 percent voting share in the IMF based on its annual contributions. Every member of the IMF has a quota to reach. I don’t know what they base the quota on, nor have I found what our loan will be and these go through the Fed. Reserve.

    Ireland Seeks Bailout as ‘Outsized’ Problem Overwhelms Nation

    Nov 21, 2010

    Ireland applied for a bailout to help fund itself and save its banks, becoming the second euro member to seek a rescue from the European Union and the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen said he expects talks on the package to be completed in the “next few weeks.” Finance Minister Brian Lenihan said the loan will be less than 100 billion euros ($137 billion), though he refused to give any further details at a press conference in Dublin today.

    • I wondered why this bailout was being forced down Ireland’s throat. Now we see that the EU has borrowed tactics from our own Barry. Did he and Geithner help cook this one up last week? Accept the money (with a figurative gun to the head, like our banks during TARP) AND lose some of your sovereignty. They’ve had it in for Ireland since their votes against the EU Constitution. Sad to see the Celtic Tiger turn into an EU pussycat.

  3. U.S. in Vast Insider Trading Probe
    Nov. 20

    Federal authorities, capping a three-year investigation, are preparing insider-trading charges that could ensnare consultants, investment bankers, hedge-fund and mutual-fund traders, and analysts across the nation, according to people familiar with the matter.

    The SEC has been investigating potential leaks on takeover deals going back to at least 2007 amid an explosion of deals leading up to the financial crisis. The SEC sent subpoenas last autumn to more than 30 hedge funds and other investors.

    • Really ? Good to hear.

    • Sounds good on the surface but what lurks beneath? Did you see the FBI’s tactics? I’d be more suspicious if it weren’t a 3-yr. investigation, but any investigation can be turned on a dime into a political operation. Is this the beginning of more persecution of free enterprise and capitalism? I’m not saying it is; just saying there may be more to it than meets the eye. I’ve been reading about this for a few days and scratching my head. Anybody have a take on it? If I see this one ensnare people like Soros, then I’ll stand up and cheer Holder’s Justice Dept. But somehow I have a feeling . . .

      In the same vein, I’m suspicious entirely of the TSA decision about how to roll out these body scanners that Chertoff and Soros are/were so heavily invested in. Am I the only one who believes they’re trying to maximize profits and sales of those machines by making the optional pat-downs so freaking distasteful and intrusive?

      We the People to Congressman Issa: Here’s a topic for your list of investigations. Why those particular machines? How did this/these companies get the contracts? Were there open bids? Last but not least, how about shining some sunlight on who knew what and when? Who had “insider” knowledge to invest in those machines at just the right time?

    • From the WSJ story:
      “The investigations, if they bear fruit, have the potential to expose a culture of pervasive insider trading in U.S. financial markets, including new ways non-public information is passed to traders through experts tied to specific industries or companies, federal authorities say.

      One focus of the criminal investigation is examining whether nonpublic information was passed along by independent analysts and consultants who work for companies that provide ‘expert network’ services to hedge funds and mutual funds. These companies set up meetings and calls with current and former managers from hundreds of companies for traders seeking an investing edge.”

      Will this turn out like the infamous Arthur Andersen probe? Will it end up tanking people’s investments and putting thousands out of jobs?

      Consider the irony: They’re investingating whether these guys in private industries found “new ways” to pass “non-public information . . . through experts tied to specific industries or companies” by setting up “meetings and calls” with those who want/need an edge.

      So what comes to mind here? WH meetings? Private meetings at the Starbucks across the street from the WH so participants aren’t logged? Private Blackberry for calls that can’t be monitored and don’t need to be logged as public record? Doesn’t what they suspect sound like business as usual for Barry and Co.? How is it criminal in private enterprise to trade on insider information, yet it’s A-OK when it goes on in the WH and throughout DC on a regular basis? The government wants to corner the market on insider deals.

      • Insider-trading laws don’t apply to Congress.

        Congressional Staffers Gain From Trading in Stocks


        WASHINGTON—Chris Miller nearly doubled his $3,500 stock investment in a renewable-energy firm in 2008. It was a perfectly legal bet, but he’s no ordinary investor.

        Mr. Miller is the top energy-policy adviser to Nevada Democrat and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who helped pass legislation that wound up benefiting the firm.

  4. Hamas laments new ‘pro-Israel’ Congress
    Fears GOP takeover will hamper Obama’s plans for Palestinian state

    November 21, 2010 SNIPS

    JERUSALEM – The political chief of Hamas believes the new “pro-Israel” Congress will put the kibosh on President Obama’s attempts to create a Palestinian state. Dr. Ahmed Yousef, chief political adviser to Hamas in Gaza, hailed Obama as a “man of good intention” while wishing the U.S. president “all the best,” but he stated he believes Obama’s Mideast diplomacy will ultimately fail.

    A report from Israel’s Army Radio US had claimed the Obama administration proposed that Israel relinquish the Jordan Valley to the Palestinians and that the Jewish state would lease back parts of the valley from the Palestinians for a up to seven years. [ Israel will never agree to this as it has strategic importance to the defense of their country.]

  5. WHO is Behind this?

    Gettysburg wants to kick “God” out of town, threatens historic Civil War Chapel
    Friday, November 19th

    In another stunning lack of conscience on the part of bureaucrats the City of Gettysburg has issued an order for a replica of an historic chapel to be vacated with the intention of it being torn down. The City has given no good reason to the organization who spearheaded and reconstructed the chapel which stands as a reminder to the service it gave to soldiers during the Civil War: namely food, medical care, fellowship and God.

    From the beginning of the Civil War in 1861 5,000 volunteers of the United States Christian Commission (USCC), 1860’s currency valuation, distributed over $6 million worth of goods and supplies to those on the battlefield, in hospitals and in prisons.

    In 2004 a gentleman by the name of John Wega refounded the USCC and at his own expense built an exact replica…weekly services are held there and it holds 80 people.

    Now out of the blue this past Wednesday, November 17 Chaplain Wega and his group received a “cease and desist” letter from the City of Gettysburg Code Enforcing Officer stating the necessary permits weren’t applied for, and ordering the property to be vacated with the intention of demolishing it.

    See Photo of the Chapel and the rest of the story.

  6. About the sharia schools in the UK: It’s frightening, surely, but I bet there are already such private schools in Dearbornistan, among other hotbeds of Muslim immigration. There are probably already after-school programs taking place in public schools.

    If not here already, it’s coming soon, unless we take steps to prevent it and root it out wherever it exists.

    I’m for freedom of religion, but we can’t allow people to teach things like terrorism, oppression of women, mutilation of criminals as well as innocent pubescent girls, all in the name of religious freedom.

    There’s a rule of law here in America. It’s called the Constitution. If you care to live here amongst us, then you must swear allegiance to that law, not sharia. If you live here amongst us, you must FIRST be an AMERICAN, not a Muslim.

    You don’t get a dispensation from the LAW because you believe it’s okay to make slaves of women or cut off someone’s hands.

  7. North Korea shells South Korea, killing two Korean marines. What will Barry do?

  8. Nothing like a war to boost a CiC poll ratings. That trip to Asia really worked out well. Hillary did a good job, too. Don’t ya think?

  9. Rush Limbaugh put forth the theory that perhaps the TSA shenanigans are designed to hurt airlines as a prelude to a government bailout/takeover of the industry. With this administration, anything’s possible. Barry’s poll numbers sink into the 30s. And he’s out, acting as if he’s campaigning again, talking to union workers in the Midwest, while North Korea is starting a war.

    • perhaps the TSA shenanigans are designed to hurt airlines as a prelude to a government bailout/takeover of the industry.

      I said that just yesterday to a friend of mine…

      Make people so sick of the TSA that they would rather drive or take a train than fly and have to submit to either pornographic images taken of them, or getting “Gate-Raped” by a TSA agent. Then, when airlines start going bankrupt, nationalize the two biggest cariers, just like they did with GM and Chrysler.

      • Gateway Pundit reports that Janet Napolitano is signaling that trains, subways, and other modes of transportation may be next. Of course, it may all be Alinsky/Soros efforts to tank the economy (although the Chinese and N. Koreans can probably handle that by themselves).

        However, it may be Barry’s paranoia because one thing that GWB always says is that he kept the country safe on his watch. Barry, if he wants to be reelected, doesn’t dare risk a shoe-bomb or underwear-bomb success story.

        But it’s more in character that he may simply be enjoying flexing his muscles, forcing We the People, whom he despises, who just handed him a major defeat, to experience the Abu Ghraib treatment. You know, in retaliation. Poetic justice. Make US strip, bend over, say nothing, just take it or pay an $11,000 fine.

        Did you hear about how, on the way back from his overseas jaunt, he “joked” to the press pool, on AF1, that he was going to make a quick stop in Venezuela to visit Chavez? He’s back to his adolescent, out of touch, snarky behavior.

        There’s a major international crisis and, even though he was awakened at 4:00 a.m. to be briefed, he still flew off to his scheduled appearance at that auto union event in the Midwest.

        So who was really handling the national security crisis? They sent Barry off to do what Barry does best, if he does anything best. Get him out of the way, but only after shooting those all-important publicity stills for the media. You know: Barry with one leg crossed over his knee, being briefed by all his minions, in control, being the decisive POTUS. Don’t you feel safe and secure?

        I want GEORGE BACK. NOW! Give me Rumsfeld and Cheney, too. Then I’ll sleep a little better.

        • Yes, I caught the “joke”. But it’s not a joke…
          Chavez’s Venezuela: Obama and Ayers

        • Barry with one leg crossed over his knee, being briefed by all his minions, in control, being the decisive POTUS. Don’t you feel safe and secure?

          Here’s what a former Obama White House insider had to say…

          If Barack Obama is the Democratic Party nominee, I will not participate in any way in his election. It will be the first time in some 20 years that I will have removed myself totally from the process of helping elect the Democratic Party candidate for President. (Leans toward me) I do not know if the country can survive another four years of Barack Obama, and frankly, I want nothing to do with helping us find out. The man is an incompetent. The man is a tool of the extreme far left that has utterly corrupted the Democratic Party. The man and those now closest to him in the administration appear to abhor America’s history. They detest anyone who does not fully subscribe to their positions. They are corrupt, they are increasingly paranoid, and they are taking this country down a path by which we may never recover.

        • I want GEORGE BACK. NOW!

          Sorry, but no. My support and defense of the Constitution, including the 22nd Amendment, won’t permit me to say that, even jokingly.

          It would be interesting if the Supreme Court grants certiorari in the Kerchner case, and if the Court rules in early 2011 that both Obama and McCain are not “natural born citizens”, then what… the electoral college votes for President were all placed for an ineligible candidate. Per the 20th Amendment, “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified”. OK, so Biden serves as President until a new President shall have qualified. Would the new Republican House of Representatives then choose the new President in early 2011?

          • It was a joke in a way, Red Pill. I wasn’t saying that I truly want GWB to illegally have another term in office.

            Leza, I do know that GWB was not the perfect POTUS, was too much invested in the elite global worldview, would not (for some INSANE reason) close the effing border, among other policies of his with which I disagreed. You don’t have to apologize for your viewpoint, so long as you don’t expect me to apologize for mine. We can agree to disagree. I hope.

            What I was trying to get across is that if we’re on the brink of effing WWIII, who would you rather have in the WH as CiC? GWB or Barry?

            Ask the military. Let them decide. Who do THEY trust? My guess is it’s not Barry.

            Whatever faults GWB had, I truly believe that first and foremost, he loves this country and WOULD defend her to the death. He would not be bowing to foreign dictators and selling us out because of misguided racial/religious grudges and megalomaniacal childhood “Dreams”.

            As for the TSA tactics: I have a new theory that was solidified by lamestream lackey Matt Lauer, who said to Pistole something like, “imagine if you back off on this and then we have an event.” That’s a paraphrase, but you get the drift.

            The complicity of the lamestream in this whole narrative is suspect. Ditto for the leftists who are going along, when ordinarily they fervently oppose any violation of personal rights. Look how loudly they screamed about strip searches at Abu Ghraib. Look how they screamed about terrorists’ “rights” at Guantanamo. Look how they screamed about how terrible it was for fellow passengers to merely suspect the motives of a group of Muslims who behaved erratically on a plane, making a show of praying, acting out a terrorist attack. How dare those people be so prejudiced against Muslims? Look what happened to Juan Williams and how awful they thought he was for merely admitting to what most Americans feel.

            This is a set up to “nudge” us to resist. Then they will make a show of backing off, and when there’s an attack, Barry can claim that he “tried” but We the People are to blame because we wouldn’t let him protect us.

            Win, win, win for him. He can’t lose. That’s how he likes it. He’s a bully and these are heavy-handed, thug tactics.

            He’s setting up his alibi for why the inevitable happened on his watch. It’s innoculation.

            The lamestream is overplaying the outrages, even digging up and playing 3-year-old videos, in order to MAKE us react the way Barry wants us to.

            In the end, if We the People don’t complain, then it’s just as well because he can still get his jollies by watching us be humiliated.

        • So, how does this make any sence? the TSA (Transportation Security Administration was created in response to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001″ as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act (Public Law 107-71) but yet our goverment is now telling us that Muslims the very people that attacked us on 9 – 11 are “exempt” from the very laws they set for “US”? hummm….The Wheels On The Bus Go Round And Round ! INDEED !!


          • And yes the TSA has set such fourth on the Transportation Industry ridiculous guidelines that come next year over 40 percent of truck drivers will be losing their right to own a commercial drivers license. One ridiculous example: if a driver does not meet government weight limits – is obese by government standards, they will loose their commercial license.

            See whats happening here people?…….time to wake up!

          • Surprised? am I uspset? VERY !!!!

            HEAR me JANET….VERY! Take my name, FUJR!!

            DHS and TSA taking names of critics

            Canada Free Press ^ | Nov 23 2010 | Doug Hagmann

            Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:04:39 PM by Merlinator

            DHS & TSA: Making a list, checking it twice By Doug Hagmann Tuesday, November 23, 2010 Following the publication of my article titled “Gate Rape of America,” I was contacted by a source within the DHS who is troubled by the terminology and content of an internal memo reportedly issued yesterday at the hand of DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano. Indeed, both the terminology and content contained in the document are troubling. The dissemination of the document itself is restricted by virtue of its classification, which prohibits any manner of public release. While the document cannot be posted or published, the more salient points are revealed here.


          • Miri I am sorry but I do not agree. George should be behind bars with the rest of them. My 2cents is that he helped set everything that is happening today into motion. From Carter on (with the exception of R. Reagan) they should all be behind bars.

            Like I said…my 2 cents)

      • I agree
        Hurt the airlines AND. Help the unions……

    • Of course it is…

  10. Rush Limbaugh: ‘Impostor’ serving in White House
    Radio host again questions constitutional eligibility of Obama

    • I bet he’s doing this to fight back against the campaign, orchestrated by the WH, using people like Rockefeller and Sharpton, to try to censor talk radio as well as FOX News and the Internet. You go Rush!

    • “The comment from the top-rated host came during his analysis of the disclosure that Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansour, a purported representative of the Taliban negotiating with the Afghan government, actually turned out to be an impersonator. ”

      The Obama administration was negotiating with a con man, a fraud? Their vetting outside the WH is working as well as it has for their inside employees. What a joke, although it really is no joke. What will the world think about this ? How embarrassing and humiliating. They flew Mansour in a NATO plane to meet with them. What a set-up ! I wonder if they will get to the bottom of this and see who perpetrated the con.

      Excuse me, my memory might not be correct, but isn’t there another Mansour in Obama’s life? As in Obama’s Benefactor: Dr. Khalid al Mansour. Any relation by any chance? (I mean to the real one, not the fake one who is using the name.) Or do all their names sound alike?

      • Percy Sutton, NYC political icon in the African American community, tells a news reporter that Dr. Khalid al Mansour solicited favor and recomendation on behalf of Barack Hussein Obama in order to secure Barack’s entry into Harvard. Think about that.

        Sutton was approached by a Dr. Khalid al Mansour on Obama’s behalf, to secure (procure?) Barack’s admission into Harvard from the rather second college, Occidental.

        Khalid al Mansour is a vile antisemite, devout (radicalized) Muslim and high level adviser to Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal.

      • That’s rich, Bridgette. An imposter negotiating with another imposter’s proxy.

  11. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Well, well, well…..Rush Limbaugh states, “We have an imposter, for all intents and purposes, serving in the White House”>

    Rush Limbaugh: We Have An Impostor Serving In The White House – 11/23/10

    • He will be targeted and zapped as a Birther tomorrow if it hasn’t started already! About time Rush!

      After saying it, he fades to a commercial!

  12. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Ooops, I hadn’t noticed that you posted a link, Kathy. Well, here’s the audio, at the ready, anyway.

  13. This should make us all feel so much better! No union protection for the TSA! Watch for the lawsuits. I pray for all those who are traveling by air this holiday week. May your civil liberties not be violated. Stay clear of San Diego seems they have lots of perverts. Who did the background checks on these thousands of employees? Search and touch with the government’s training and permission!

    TSA fondlers to be led away in cuffs?
    Senator calls for sexual-assault charges for agents who touch ‘in a private area’
    November 23, 2010

    A state lawmaker who just a week ago called on Congress to rein in the Transportation Security Administration’s use of invasive and offensive imaging and pat-down procedures for airline passengers has taken the battle to the next level.

    State Sen. Michael Doherty, a member of the New Jersey Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee, today announced plans to introduce legislation that would curb the TSA’s procedures in his state.

    His plan would lift any protections – or immunities – TSA agents would have to any actions they take under the color of “following orders,” he told WND.

    It was Mo McGowan, a former top TSA official, who admitted on a Fox News Channel appearance that the procedures apparently conflict with the Fourth Amendment, which protects Americans from unreasonable searches. [APPARENTLY>>?? Hillary laughs when asked if she would go through what the public must. It is not a laughing matter. ]

      Americans ‘likely’ to get cancer from airport scanners
      ‘TSA is basing claims for safety on research government commissioned’

      November 23, 2010 Snips

      A Columbia University expert in radiation today confirmed that it is quite “likely” that the radiation from screening machines being installed nationwide by the Transportation Security Authority to use on airline passengers will cause cancer. The word comes from David J. Brenner, of Columbia’s Center for Radiological Research, and whose research involves radiation biology, low dose risk estimation and radiotherapy.

      Further, scientists from the University of California San Francisco have written a letter to the White House warning that the scanners present – above and beyond the risks to the general population – “potential serious health risks” to certain segments of society, such as the elderly and the pregnant.

    • Wow. This guy says it a lot better than I do. I was thinking along the same lines:

      If you consider why they do this the way they do: Lots of jobs for less educated people–relatively high-paying jobs with benefits, considering the skill level required. Union jobs. Scanners that mean big money for investors with the inside dope. Versus doing it the Israeli way, which of course would require highly educated professionals.

      See how too many of these agents treat people. One woman was thumping her chest, saying “I have the power; I have the power” when a passenger questioned her behavior. I read a letter to the editor that made a pertinent point: When you go to the doctor, you willing choose to strip and you have few qualms about it because you TRUST the doctor. Do you trust these “agents” at the airport? No. Do you believe they won’t be snickering about your body behind the screen? No. Do you believe that won’t save any of those images? No. Do you believe it’s necessary to pat down people in full view of the public? No. It’s the attidude as well as the methods, and the lack of trust in this agency and this administration, as well as the way they just surprised us with it. That shows a total lack of consideration for the public. It shows the attitude: We RULE you and you WILL do what you’re told.

      Think about how ridiculous their reason for doing this is: They fear another underwear bomber. Didn’t that take place last Christmas? So why such a long delay? Why roll this out now?

      The terrorists already know how to get past this latest effort: Use body cavities. They’ve already done it. The underwear bomber got past existing security, so TSA comes up with Soros-invested scanners and pat downs. But the terrorists move the goal post. How will they prevent a cooch bomber? (Pardon my French.)

      They STILL won’t close the effing border. How will they prevent (are they even trying to?) a bomber from walking across, going to some crowded place, and setting off a bomb? Why won’t they close the damned border?

      Win, win, win for Barry. Soros makes money. Barry humiliates us and makes us know who’s in charge now. Ditto for his minions who get their jollies exercising their “power.” “We got Obama.” If the airlines lose money, another win. Barry hates capitalism. He might even get to bail them out or take them over. More power for Barry.

  14. Remember that Eric Holder was a keynote speaker for CAIR/Hamas in Detroit knowing full well they were on the FBI’s terrorist list?

    Federal judge confirms CAIR is Hamas
    Unsealed ruling reveals ‘ample evidence’ tying group to terror
    Posted: November 23, 2010 Snips

    WASHINGTON – A federal judge has determined that the Justice Department provided “ample evidence” to designate the most prominent Muslim group in America as an unindicted terrorist co-conspirator.

    According to a federal court ruling unsealed Friday, the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations has been involved in “a conspiracy to support Hamas,” a federally designated terrorist group that has murdered at least 17 Americans and injured more than 100 U.S. citizens.

    The evidence includes documents introduced by the government showing CAIR and its founding chairman Omar Ahmad have operated as key members of Hamas’ U.S. wing, known as the “Palestine Committee.” In addition, FBI wiretaps and agent testimony have placed both Ahmad and CAIR’s acting executive director – Nihad Awad – at a secret meeting last decade with Hamas leaders in Philadelphia. Meeting in a hotel room, participants hatched a scheme to disguise payments to Hamas suicide bombers and their families as charity.

    CAIR founding chairman Omar Ahmad, who arranged and led the secret Hamas meeting in Philadelphia. “The attendees agreed not to mention the word Hamas but to refer to Hamas as ‘Samah,’ which is Hamas spelled backwards,” Solis said.

    CAIR maintains it is simply a Muslim-rights group, but the Justice Department says it is a front group not only for Hamas, but for its parent the radical Muslim Brotherhood – a worldwide jihadist movement that prosecutors say has a secret plan to impose Shariah law on the U.S.

  15. Inside the Beltway
    November 23, 2010

    Never home? President Obama has now spent more days out of the country than any other U.S. chief executive during his first two years in office: Fifteen trips to 26 countries, more than 55 travel days. Some hefty gas money, too: Air Force One costs about $181,757 per hour to operate, according to military sources.

  16. Treason? Communist Party USA Prepares to Defend China Against US in Event of “Confrontation”
    11/23/10 | Trevor Loudon Snips

    The Communist Party USA is preparing to defend China against the US, in what it sees as a looming Washington/Beijing “confrontation”. While long a loyal ally of the Soviet Union and later the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Communist Party USA has also become markedly pro-China in recent years. As Moscow and Beijing have openly moved into a military and economic alliance through the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the American Communist Party has also staked out a pro-China position. Now Communist Party USA members are discussing how to help China, in the event of Washington/Beijing hostilities. ….

    This is the most significant sentence; If these confrontations are allowed to become full-blown, it will put the current US military ventures in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere in the shade, and will demand from all of us [US Communists] new energies to struggle on yet another – perhaps the biggest – domestic front against US imperialism.

    What does this mean? It is a clear signal that US “comrades” must prepare to act as at least a propaganda and activist “Fifth Column” for China, if and when conflict breaks out between Washington and Beijing.

    Will this escalate to full blown treason, should a shooting war start? The Communist Party USA’s own disloyal history suggests it would.

    • The Communist Party USA is preparing to defend China against the US.


  17. LISTEN “It’s Time to Know the Truth” by Patra
    Nov 23, 2010 Snips – Read all verses
    A song dedicated to Terry’s case.

    A God-fearing soldier & family man.
    Terry Lakin’s courage is taking a stand.
    Honoring his oath to protect & defend,
    Guarding the Constitution from threats within.
    Guarding the Constitution from evil men.

    Chorus: It’s time to know the truth.
    It’s time to know the truth.
    It’s time to hear the whole truth,
    and nothing but.
    It’s time to know the truth.
    It’s time to know the truth.
    It’s time to know the truth,
    No more cover-ups.

    A sacrificial soldier who’s native-born,
    Asked Barack Hussein Obama, are you “Natural Born”?
    “A God-fearing soldier & family man,
    Terry Lakin’s fate lies in God’s hands,
    Terry Lakin’s future, is in the Lord’s hands.

    [audio src="" /]

  18. BREAKING: You have Michelle Obama’s permission to eat what you want on Thanksgiving!

    First Lady Michelle Obama gives Americans of all shapes and sizes permission to eat what they want on specific holidays! “Don’t worry about how much you eat. Just enjoy it,” FLOTUS told Wawa. “This is the time. Have pie.”

    Don’t miss it … bound to be a hit! An interview by Wawa with him and her slated for Thankgiving Day.

  19. U.S. to send carrier for joint exercises off Korea
    Nov. 24

    WASHINGTON — President Obama and South Korea’s president agreed Tuesday night to hold joint military exercises as a first response to North Korea’s deadly shelling of a South Korean military installation as both countries struggled for the second time this year to keep a North Korean provocation from escalating into war.

    The exercise will include sending the aircraft carrier George Washington and a number of accompanying ships into the region, both to deter further attacks by the North and to signal to China that unless it reins in its unruly ally it will see an even larger American presence in the vicinity.

    • North Korea testing Obama
      Op-ed: Similarly to Nazi era, failure to respond to North Korean aggression could lead to war Snips

      All eyes in the international theater are currently on Washington. The White House also understands that the North Korean attack on the South Korean island is a challenge to the US no less so – and possibly even more so – than it is a provocation towards Seoul. Officials in Washington know that a failure to respond in this case would have grave strategic and international implications: Iran is closely monitoring North Korea’s conduct on the nuclear and sanctions front, and there are quite a few indications that Pyongyang serves as a model for emulation. On top of it, there is the close cooperation between the two states on the missile and nuclear development front.,7340,L-3988919,00.html

  20. Ron Paul: Crotch Groped by TSA, Calls for Boycott of Airlines

    “If we tolerate this,” Paul said, “there’s something wrong with us.” He added that the American people deserve to be humiliated and demeaned by the government IF they refuse to stand up and resist.


      Department of Homeland Security is not only prepared to enforce the enhanced security procedures at airports, but is involved in gathering intelligence about those who don’t!

      DHS & TSA: Making a list, checking it twice
      November 23, 2010 Snips

      Following the publication of my article titled “Gate Rape of America,” I was contacted by a source within the DHS who is troubled by the terminology and content of an internal memo reportedly issued yesterday at the hand of DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano.

      The terminology contained within the reported memo is indeed troubling. It labels any person who “interferes” with TSA airport security screening procedure protocol and operations by actively objecting to the established screening process, “including but not limited to the anticipated national opt-out day” as a “domestic extremist.”

      For individuals who engaged in such activity at screening points, it instructs TSA operations to obtain the identities of those individuals and other applicable information and submit the same electronically to the Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division, the Extremism and Radicalization branch of the Office of Intelligence & Analysis (IA) division of the Department of Homeland Security.

      • I guess they’re taking our names, too, since we might be seen as encouraging others to object. Who wouldn’t object to having their family or theirselves groped beneath their underwear by someone they don’t know, don’t trust, and who doesn’t even change gloves in between?

        This is what Glenn Beck predicted. Napolitano is on record calling people who object domestic terrorists. They want to CAUSE an uprising so they can crack down. All this is coming on the heels of Barry’s defeat at the polls. It’s no coincidence. They want to put as much into effect as possible. To exert as much sheer power, via the executive, as possible. It’s unconstitutional, but so is sitting in the WH when you’re not a NBC.

        Thank goodness for Ron Paul.

        • Here’s the pertinent paragraph: “The label is then broadened to include ‘any person, group or ALTERNATIVE MEDIA SOURCE’ that actively objects to, causes others to object to, supports and/or elicits support for anyone who engages in such travel disruptions at U.S. airports in response to the enhanced security procedures.”

          I guess they don’t need to include the non-alternative media sources because they know they already have the lamestream under their thumb.

          The thing is, can we trust that this anonymous source is telling truth? Dare we risk thinking he’s not?

  21. The Left needs a lesson in the use of the word civility! Laughing out loud at this dingbat! Add the word “uncivil” to the list to describe us!

    Civility — and Why Bobby Rush Should Be the Ranking Communications Subcommittee Member No.v 22

    Almost all of the uncivil rhetoric that infected political discourse this year came from the right.

    What was the most common uncivil slur? Fabricating “questions” as a substitute for actual facts. “Was Obama born in Kenya?” “Is he a Muslim and a Communist?” “Will health care kill Granny?”

    This is right wing talk. It’s not us. It’s not who we are. And we progressives can’t flinch in calling out our own when they stoop to that.

  22. What really happened to Velma? What company gets rid of their Chief Financial Officer, a democrat, to help the company survive? She publicly embarrassed Obama and two months later, she is without a job? Who is looking into her boss Jim King?

    ‘Exhausted’ Obama supporter laid off
    November 23rd, 2010

    In September, Velma Hart told President Obama she was exhausted from defending his policies.

    According to an article at The Blaze, Hart was recently laid off from her position as the Chief Financial Officer for Am Vets, a Maryland-based veteran services organization.

    Jim King, executive director of Am Vets, told the Washington Post Hart was laid off in a move to help the organization’s bottom line. “She got bit by the same snake that has bit a lot of people. It was a move to cut our bottom line,” he said.

  23. More about Obama’s ongoing program of locking up federal lands. What for? Redistribution a la Mugabe? Or is he just saving our resources for our eventual conquerors?

  24. Training camps and their schooling in the US are chronicled in Newsleuth’s article.


    The Ground Zero Mosque guys want $5 million of federal funds meant to REBUILD after 9/11. And NBC named El Gamal one of their “Persons of the Year.”

    There he is again. Lackey Matt Lauer.

    • Can you see the Muslims getting our Stimulus money to build their mosque? What will Bloomberg do? Being person of the year is right up there with getting the Nobel Peace prize.

  26. 30 States out of our “57” have now joined together to repeal Obamacare! Looks like a majority to me!

  27. The OK owner of Old Glory beer wanted to put the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag in its entirety on his beer cans. It had been approved.

    Then the Obama administration changed their acceptance stance. They wanted him to change the pledge to read “I pledge allegiance to my country.” The words of “Under God” were supposed to be removed also.

    He turned around and filed a $25 million lawsuit against the government and $10 m against the guy that had approved it originally. The government found out he was supposed to be on FOX today telling his story, so they immediately changed and have now said that he is approved just before airing.

  28. Do you realize how ridiculous this is becoming? Why would it have ANYTHING to do, whatsoever, with the POTUS what a guy prints on cans of his own product? Where is it in the Constitution that the POTUS can decide things like this? I do know where in the Constitution this man has the God-given RIGHT to free speech and religion. I hope FOX runs the story, anyway.

    • All about erasing God and control it seems Miri. Someone suggested pointing out to stores what you think if they do not mention Christmas inside. Tell everyone in the store “Merry Christmas” and leave with very little.

      Why would you wish to buy Christmas things in a place that avoids using the words Christmas ? I mean really ? Let those that do not care buy their things there and we will see how that works. Can you say “Lost the Christian market ” Can you say lost revenue ?

      • That’s a great idea, Renee. Christians are celebrating Christmas. If the stores can’t even wish them Merry Christmas, then why should Christians buy their Christmas gifts in those stores?

  29. Have you seen those ads that are running all over TV, showing a very diverse collection of normal, everyday Americans going about their business, who end the ad with the statement “and I’m a Mormon.”

    Starting to wonder what that’s all about? My radar went off after the first two or three. I thought immediately, they’re prepping us for Romney. Trying to get out in front of the one expected possible negative for a Romney candidacy (in their minds). He’s Mormon, so we must normalize Mormons.

    Did you hear how Barbara Bush recently dissed Sarah Palin by saying, “I sat next to her once, thought she was beautiful. And I think she’s very happy in Alaska — and I hope she’ll stay there.” I’ll bet she does. Larry King didn’t even ask her why, which would be the obvious question that a REAL interviewer would have asked. Why does Barbara want Sarah to stay in Alaska, and who is she to hope Sarah does anything? While we’re at it Babs, I hope you stay in Texas. We don’t want another Bush in the WH, no matter how much you may hope Jeb runs. Or even P.

    The elites have their chosen one, and the lamestream is more than happy to play along, just as they did by promoting McCain, until they savaged him. Don’t think for a minute that they don’t already have the ammunition ready for whenever Romney does get the nomination, if he does. They will turn on him on a dime.

    In any case, what I didn’t hear, what wasn’t as widely reported, was that in addition to the sexist statement about Sarah, Barbara also announced that Romney would make a great president. I believe George H.W. concurred.

    See this story at Gateway Pundit for the audio of that interview and for Sarah’s response to the Bushes on Laura Ingraham’s show:

    Why do I say that Barbara’s statement was sexist? Well, imho, it was. The time-honored way to put a WOMAN down is to focus on her physical appearance. To attempt to diminish her by making her little more than eye candy. Yes, Sarah is lovely but she is FAR MORE THAN THAT and Barbara knows it.

    Sarah’s smart, she’s quick on her feet, and she’s a HUGE threat to the powers that be–the blue blood elites, the global elitists who believe in the “New World Order.” Those of wealth and power who consider themselves to be American royalty.

    If you listen to the clip, you’ll hear Gov. Christie similarly dismiss Sarah Palin. That’s a total disappointment. I was a supporter of that man. I thought he was a different kind of politician. Somebody who shoots from the hip, tells it like it is, will make the hard decisions and speak out instead of cowering like so many “moderates” have, to our detriment as a Republic. IOW, I thought he was a male Sarah Palin. But no, apparently even Gov. Christie can’t resist jumping in on the beat-down of Sarah.

    She was on Hannity for an hour the other night. I was so proud of her. She says she’s going to keep on fighting and will go down swinging, if she has to go down, that is. So far, they’ve thrown everything at her and all it’s done is to make her stronger.

    So Mitt Romney is the chosen one for 2012, no matter what We the People think. Or so THEY think–the elites. Those folks who’ve forgotten that in THIS REPUBLIC, We the People are the “deciders.”

    I noticed on Free Republic the other day that at least one of their moderators has said that NEVER will that site become an “elect Romney” site. So that person feels like I do. Romney may or may not make a good POTUS but he’s got one HUGE thing going against him:

    IF the Bushes and the media and the rest of the Republican establishment like Rove are determined to push him down our throats like Pelosi pushed Obamacare on us, they’re going to be quite surprised when we vomit Mitt right back into their faces.

    This is a new America. One thing Obama delivered on: He transformed America, only not in the way that he was hoping.

    No. He awakened the Tea Party Patriots and we’re not going away. It’s a new American order. Get used to it.

    • Miri, Like the Bush name, Romney came up too many times for me also.
      I would go for Ron Paul or Jessie Ventura first ! LOL ! Since they seem to be the only two with the “guts” to call things as they are. No thanks for me too Miri.

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