RFK Jr.: Crank Conspiracy Theorist (Open Thread)

© Miri WTPOTUS January 15, 2013

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In the context of the Sandy Hook  incident, Anderson Cooper recently discussed “conspiracy theorists” with a man who has written about 9/11.

[Emphasis added, and some editing done, to clarify, but not change the gist.]

JONATHAN KAY, AUTHOR [of] “AMONG THE TRUTHERS”: Conspiracy theories are explanations for evil. And generally speaking, people hate the idea of random evil. They [like] the idea that evil is focused in some … [group] of people whether it’s, you know, whether is Jews, or Muslims, or illuminati … or free masons, or the New World Order, they love the idea that there’s one central address for all the evil that is afflicting [us and] causing terrorism, causing mass shootings, and they are strangely attracted to that idea because once they’ve identified … the evil then they believe somehow they can fight it and expose it.

COOPER: And you divide conspiracy theorists into … two camps, cranks and fire brand. What’s the difference?

KAY: Well, the fire brand ten[d]s to be the young folks, I mean, the ones that you see it was sometimes 9/11 on the anniversary you’ll see these people marching, the so-called 9/11 truth movements. They tends [sic] to be young people. You often to see them in university campuses.

[The category of] cranks tends to be older types, people … [in] their 40s or 50s, often are college professor[s], often are computer scientists, often are people with a very technological frame of mind who were drawn to this–very intricate conspiracy theorists. They’re almost always men for reasons that I explained in my book. And often, these are very mild mannered individuals. Our friend thinks one of the leaders of the 9/11 conspiracy was a teacher, professor of California named David Ray Griffin, very mild man, professorial guy who is actually a theologian. And these people drawn [to] the movement, usually they are very intelligent and they love the idea that they are unraveling some huge puzzle … and I’ll get to the source of all the world to keep.

With all of the above in mind, We the Peeps are now honored to welcome to the Club of Cranks one Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., who turns 59 this week.

In an interview with Charlie Rose, Kennedy admitted doubts that his uncle, President John F. Kennedy, was killed by a “lone gunman”.  Thus, he joins the ranks of JFK assassination conspiracy theorists. From a news story about the interview:

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said his father spent a year trying to come to grips with his brother’s death, reading the work of Greek philosophers, Catholic scholars, Henry David Thoreau, poets and others “trying to figure out kind of the existential implications of why a just God would allow injustice to happen of the magnitude he was seeing.”

He said his father thought the Warren Commission, which concluded Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing the president, was a “shoddy piece of craftsmanship.” He said that he, too, questioned the report.

“The evidence at this point I think is very, very convincing that it was not a lone gunman,” he said, but he didn’t say what he believed may have happened.

Rose asked if he believed his father, the U.S. attorney general at the time of his brother’s death, felt “some sense of guilt because he thought there might have been a link between his very aggressive efforts against organized crime.”

Kennedy replied: “I think that’s true. He talked about that. He publicly supported the Warren Commission report but privately he was dismissive of it.”

He said his father had investigators do research into the assassination and found that phone records of Oswald and nightclub owner Jack Ruby, who killed Oswald two days after the president’s assassination, “were like an inventory” of mafia leaders the government had been investigating.

He said his father, later elected U.S. senator in New York, was “fairly convinced” that others were involved.

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. — radio host, activist, attorney, progressive, Democrat, “conspiracy theorist”, and “crank”.

Thanks to Anderson Cooper, we can add these adjectives to further describe this particular crank, as well as his late father, Robert F. Kennedy Sr.:  “paranoid” and “idiotic”.

How does it feel, Bob?  Tell us.  How does it feel?

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196 responses to “RFK Jr.: Crank Conspiracy Theorist (Open Thread)

    • http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/15/lobbyists-work-both-sides-on-a123-sale/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

      Lobbyists work both sides on A123 sale

      Lobbyists are swarming on both sides of the pending sale of a U.S. battery-maker backed by more than $100 million in federal grants that soon could be in the hands of a Chinese competitor.

      Just last week, a federal judge allowed creditors of bankrupt, government-backed A123 Systems Inc. to hire a D.C.-based lobbying firm to try to convince federal officials to sign off on its proposed sale to China-based Wanxiang.

      Meanwhile, a failed bidder for A123, U.S.-based Johnson Controls Inc., acknowledged in court papers filed Monday that it has been lobbying on the sale, too, and says its right to do so is protected by the First Amendment. …

      One retiree who said he lost money investing in A123 recently wrote a letter to the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware asking not only for his money back but warning against the sale to Wanxiang.

      In a handwritten note sent to the judge in the case, Edward Lopez and his wife, Leticia, said they bought A123 stock because it had drawn “brainpower” from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the company was “hyped” by the U.S. Department of Energy.

      In a phone interview, Mr. Lopez, a retired engineer who lives in Texas, said he thought the company had good talent, but he’s still seeking answers about how it ended up bankrupt.

      While A123 received approval for a $249 million federal grant through the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act, it received only about half of the money before filing for bankruptcy protection earlier last year. The funds were intended to create thousands of American jobs, but a review by The Washington Times of government job tracking data showed only about 400 new jobs were created.

      The fate of A123 now rests with the Treasury Department’s Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, a panel that reviews proposed sales of U.S. companies to foreign buyers. A bankruptcy judge has already approved the sale of most of A123’s assets to Wanxiang America Corp.

      Citing considerable pressure against the sale mounting in Washington, a creditors committee formed in A123’s bankruptcy case won permission last week to pay $75,000 to lobbying firm Capitol Counsel. The creditors said they needed the lobbyists to help push for the sale because Johnson Controls was “doing everything in its power” to get the Treasury Department committee to reject the sale. …”

      • In sum, millions of dollars of OUR MONEY was spent to develop this battery and they will now hand it over to the RED CHINESE.

  1. YOU’RE GOING TO LOVE THIS ONE! LIMBAUGH CALLS FOR A “BACKGROUND CHECK” ON BARRY!!!!!!

    • “If we are going to have universal background checks on virtually everybody who buys a gun, do you think it is time to require a background check on anybody wanting to be president? ”

      I would submit to you, we still haven’t had a background check on Barack Obama. We are soon to be starting the second term of Obama’s regime, year number 5, without a background check. And by that, I mean the media has never vetted Obama. Low information voters have no idea who he is. A majority of people who vote don’t really know anything about Barack Obama. Background checks, anybody?”

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      Where were you Rush – for 4 years we have been demanding just that…a background check on the fraud that is usurping the presidency? You are part of the media!

      Congress has the power to do the background check and still can BEFORE Obama and the Left destroy our country further. He isn’t eligible and all they have to do is get copies of the original authentic documents and review them. Then compare that information to the requirements set out in our Constitution. He would be out in a flash and our country could begin to repair the damage that he and the other Marxist criminals have done to our country. Let the trials begin.

      • It’s probably tough to get the original authentic records because by now they no longer exist. That’s why they so confidently say that We the Peeps have “no evidence” that he’s ineligible. They fall back on that “innocent until proven guilty/eligible until PROVEN ineligible” when that’s not the way it works. No employer gives you a job, assuming you’re eligible. No, you must PROVE YOUR ELIGIBILITY. Your employer doesn’t have to PROVE YOUR INELIGIBILITY. But that’s the standard that the obots and Barry’s lawyers try to present to everyone. Of course, the Congress could REQUIRE him to submit his so-called SFCOLB and LFCOLB, his Social Security application, his REAL passport records, his Selective Service records into a court of law, where it is a CRIME to provide FALSE EVIDENCE. And Rush Limbaugh would be a huge voice if he would CALL FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. They have until Sunday to OBJECT to his swearing in.

  2. While we’re talking about background checks, how’s about universal background checks on EVERY VOTER?!!!!!!!

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      I see you $100 and raise you $200. I maintain only taxpayers should vote. What was it he said way back when about having some “skin in the game”?

      • That’s something to consider. Only taxpayers should be allowed to vote on anything that raises taxes, that’s for sure. Back in the day, only property owners could vote.

  3. Obama says, “if there’s even one life that can be saved, then we’ve got an obligation to try.”

    So we ought NOT to infringe on the Second Amendment rights of citizens. If EVEN ONE PERSON at Sandy Hook Elementary had had a gun, then more than “one life” would have been saved. By his own logic, we have an “obligation to try” by arming teachers or at least guards at all elementary schools. Surely that will save “even one life” and it will be worth it.

    What a freaking demagogue. What a freaking hypocrite. Universal background checks for GUN BUYERS, but not for illegal alien voters or (illegal alien?) presidential candidates. Do all we can to save “even one life,” but NOT if that life is still in the womb. Don’t use Malia and Sasha (NRA!) in your political ads, but Barry will shamelessly use other people’s children to stand behind him during his political stunts, daring anyone to disagree with his plans, lest they impugn the naive desires of those children. Hypocrite. Coward. Clown.

  4. “You must understand that our nation today is ruled not by democrats or republicans, but by the party of royalty with a European mindset and a Globalist agenda. The morphing from a two-party system into one of elite royalty did not happen overnight, but incrementally and under the proverbial radar of a deliberately distracted public.”

    http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2013/01/you-must-understand-that-our-nation.html

  5. “Obama-Media Sycophant Goes Birther On NRA Members; NRA Rips Obama & Media”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/01/media-sycophant-goes-birther-on-nra.html

  6. Enough is enough! Where are the brains that these people were born with? So now cops and robbers and Cowboys and Indians should no longer be allowed as child’s play? What would these paranoid freaks like to replace those childhood games with? What do they see on TV folks if not violence – even in cartoons?

    Two First-Graders Suspended For Playing Cops & Robbers

    January 17, 2013 Snips

    Just a couple weeks ago, a 6-year-old student was suspended for pretending to “shoot” another student with his hand and saying, “Pow!” He was playing of course, but the school officials were alarmed by the boy’s behavior and suspended him. [ALARMED, I tell you ...ALARMED!] In the assistant principal’s letter to the student’s parents, she wrote that their son “threatened to shoot another student.” After the parents secured a lawyer, they appealed the decision of the school, and the school overturned the student’s suspension. [The parents needed to contact a lawyer? Was this a ghetto elementary school?]

    http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/01/two-first-graders-suspended-for-playing-cops-robbers/

    • It’s like they suffer from multiple personalities. On the one hand, kids aren’t supposed to play cops and robbers. Why? How does interdicting a kid who points his finger at another stop any violence? How does PRETEND acting out what he sees on TV, in movies, and in video games harm anyone? On the other hand, the leftists in Hollywood and the gaming industry who support “progressive” causes got a pass yesterday from their messiah. They are allowed to assert that THEY are not the problem. Nobody declares war on them. Nobody compares them to Nazis, Al Qaeda, or racist bigots. They’re allowed to say, with a straight fact, that the culture of violence that they promote through violent, shoot-em-up movies and video games, and through graphic, horrible images fed into children’s brains 24/7, has NO EFFECT whatsoever on gun violence in the real world.

      • speaking of Hollywood and violence. All the talent shows – American Idol, X-Factor, The Voice have the worst and most evil movie ads. Over and Over. It is like the more a show tries to be family the more the ads are Dark. The last round of commercials and always having to change channels during the commercials will cost them a lot of viewers. I think that is why x-Factor rating are tanking, at least in part. The producers and advertisers have their demographics all wrong.

        • I don’t watch those shows, so I can’t relate. It is obnoxious, though, when they show the same ad every commercial break. Must mean that nobody else cares to advertise on that show. I tuned into that stupid “Honey Boo Boo” show last night just to see what they are talking about. If ANYBODY watches that, I can’t imagine why. The most boring show and it seems that its only purpose is to allow snarky elitists to ridicule poor white people. This is the LEARNING CHANNEL? What do people learn but to be hateful and snarky? To put people up for ridicule? I know. The Kardashians are AS BAD. Same for the Osbournes, etc. It’s interesting, though, that the leftists DID manage to get Oxygen to CANCEL that planned show about the black rapper with something like 11 “baby mamas”. Gee, I guess it’s only okay to hold up WHITE people for potential judgment or ridicule. Ya think? Even our illustrious potus knows about Honey Boo Boo. Something tells me that he and Mooch really enjoy tuning in to confirm all their stereotypes about stupid white bitter clingers.

          • Funny that I used the term “bitter clingers” and then later I popped over to WND and found this story about Limbaugh calling for a background check on Barry:

            http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/rush-limbaugh-obama-wants-people-to-snap/?cat_orig=politics

            Rush Limbaugh: Obama ‘wants people to snap’
            Says president seeks ‘revenge,’ suggests background check on him

            President Obama’s newly announced gun-control initiatives are intended as “revenge” against many Americans, as he’s pushing them “to snap,” claims top-rated radio host Rush Limbaugh.

            “I think he wants people to snap. I think Obama is challenging everybody’s sanity,” Limbaugh said on his show Wednesday afternoon. “Obama [is] literally pushing people to snap, attacking the very sanity of the country.” …

            Coming on the heels of a recent birth-control mandate, Limbaugh noted, “All of this is so in our face. Everything that people hold dear is under assault. Deliberately making people upset. This is not what presidents do.”

            Speculating why Obama is taking this action, Limbaugh said, “Maybe this is about revenge. Obama used that word when he was on the campaign trail prior to the election. He told his supporters in Ohio to go vote and get their revenge. Revenge against who? Well, obviously the people that disagree with Obama. But who are those people? He clearly knows who they are, and I think the root of this … can be found in the comment that Obama made when he thought he was off the records at a fundraiser in San Francisco when he talked about the ‘bitter clingers.’

            “These are people that the liberals all know,” Limbaugh said. “These are ‘the not very bright people’ that want life to never change. They don’t want any progress. They want to remain cloistered in their archaic, antique past and when things don’t go right, when there’s too much change, when there’s too much progress or progressivism. Like when there’s civil-rights laws, they don’t like it. When there’s gay rights and gay marriage. They don’t like it. When there’s all kinds of cultural rot on TV, they don’t like it. … That’s who Obama wants revenge on. Maybe he has an active dislike for the people he calls the bitter clingers. That birth-control mandate was revenge on the bitter clingers.” …

            Limbaugh noted, “If we’re going to have universal background checks on virtually everybody who buys a gun, you think maybe it’s time to require a background check on anybody wanting to be president? I would submit to you we still have not had a background check on Barack Obama.”

        • Rosemary Woodhouse

          Tangentially speaking. I seldom (practically never) go to the moves, because there’s seldom anything they produce that isn’t garbage. But, I had to see Les Miz. Of course, not as good as the theatrical versions but Anne Hathaway surprised me. She was excellent as Fantine. Russell Crowe was better than expected and Huge Jackman’s voice is over-hyped. My review, in short.

          On topic, I don’t care to support Hollywood and watch about 2 shows on television when those shows are in season. Have also grown quite selective about which blogs I choose to read. Of course j’adore WTPOTUS. As you most assuredly know, :-)

          • As to selective blog reading; only four, including wtpotus, have the privilege of b:)

          • opps, that was toolbar.

          • We the Peeps adore you, too, RW. I seldom watch TV, either. I happened to be looking at the online guide when I saw “Honey Boo Boo” listed and tuned in for a few minutes just to see if it was as I expected (a TV show to allow leftists and racists to feel superior). It was exactly what I expected. I seldom go to movies, either. I read a lot, though. :)

  7. President Obama’s half-brother, Malik announced run for Governor of Siaya
    January 16, 2013

    Malik (Abongo) Obama, half brother of President Barack Obama announced his candidacy for governor of Siaya. The 54 yearold elder Obama cited poverty and poor infrastructure as motivations for running for office, when announcing his candidacy over the weekend.
    Malik Obama earned his degree in accounting from the University of Nairobi and may use his connection with Barack Obama to help his candidacy. According to Malik Obama, his younger brother gave advice on running for office, advising sincerity and a tough skin. [Barack Obama said use sincerity?]

    If elected, Malik Obama would face challenges from a staggering HIV population, poverty, single parenting, child headed households, high education costs, unemployment, deforestation and political unrest. The region has the highest HIV rate in the country, according to research from the World Health Organization.

    Though Malik’s relationship with President Obama may help him along, Malik is not the only candidate with friends in high places. Oburu Odinga, brother of Prime Minister, Raila Odinga, is also vying for the position. The elections are scheduled for March 4, the first since 2007 when hundreds of people died following anger at election results.

    [Thousands were systematically burned in riots that were started by followers of Odinga. Whatever means necessary - the Muslim and communist credo. BHO went there to "inspire" and help with the elections...encouraging Odinga to use "change" as a motto. Change did come to the thousands that died. That ws when Obama got involved in another country's elections in violation of the Logan Act, and nothing was done to BHO.]

    http://www.examiner.com/article/president-obama-s-half-brother-malik-announced-run-for-governor-of-siaya

    • I guess Roy got nowhere with the most popular Obama family “career”; that is, publishing a bogus “memoir” written by someone else. So he’s turned to the other family “career”: selected office.

    • Rosemary Woodhouse

      Oh goody… the 51st state. Onward toward 57!

    • Malik wants to be President of Kenya! Will Kenyans elect a polygamist scam artist based on his name? Will they look at his foundation for clues?

      Obama inspires brother to run for office in Kenya elections
      KOGELO, Kenya | Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:26am EST

      (Reuters) – U.S. President Barack Obama’s message of hope and change has inspired his half-brother Malik to launch a political career of his own, with his eye on elections in Kenya in March.

      “If my brother is doing great things for people in the United States, why can’t I do great things for Kenyans here?” Malik Obama told Reuters in the village of Kogelo, President Obama’s ancestral homeland.
      ~
      Malik Obama, a resident of the United States, has lived in Washington DC since 1985 where he worked with various firms before becoming an independent financial consultant.
      ~
      Obama said the U.S. president also urged him to be honest with the electorate and to be true to himself. His campaign slogan is “Just as it is in United States, I want it here”, he said in his office in a recreation centre he set up with the Barack H. Foundation, a charitable organization he founded to build houses for women and orphans. [Can we see the financial records of that foundation? How many houses were built? Scam artist.]

      With a population of 832,000 people, the main economic activities in Siaya county are subsistence farming and small trading. Many residents live in mud huts with thatched roofs. Obama wants to help build new roads, water and electricity supply, hospitals and small-scale industries once he is elected governor. After conquering this, he has eyes for an even bigger prize, the Kenyan presidency at the next elections in 2017.[Of course he does. Is he counting on more cash (blackmail for pretending to be family) from his "brother" to help the Kenyans?]

      http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/18/us-kenya-election-obama-idUSBRE90H0R420130118

      • Wait a minute! Since when is Malik a current resident of the USA? Didn’t he high-tail it back to Kenya, acting as Granny Sarah’s sometime bodyguard, after the investigation into his shady “charity” and rumors about his 12 wives (and to keep him from talking and/or otherwise “embarrassing” his “brother”)? Oh, I see:

        “He lives partly in the United States where he takes up work contracts from time to time and Kenya.”

        Does Malik have dual citizenship, too? Does he pay taxes here? Oh, look at his white hat. Kufi? Is that what it’s called? We talked about it recently. A symbol of a very devout, orthodox MUSLIM.

        • with friends in high places ,like Alton Ray Baysden ,who is good friends with Neville Cramer, both former INS (and ICE affiliations) who needs to worry about flying back and forth to US or where ever else he may desire to go. You should read the previous jobs and affiliations these guys who seem so close to Malik had. Why would he be affiliated with these kind of folks unless Malik and his kin are either paid informants or information gatherers (informants)for some branch of out intelligence. It’s a common theater this branch of gov. plays in. Note too Alton is a FORMER gov.employee….working during a time fraut with problems over boarder agents, deaths,ect……all prior to Fast and Furious, but just as crazy. Baysden also has ties to UN, and foreign immigration INS, CSI. Has Obama’s “family” always had ties to our gov.s information gathering, just like in the days of MBOYA/ O. Sr. ?
          Can you imagine Odinga letting Malik get near campaigning for his sought after position? Unless of course OUR CIA gets on the problem and runs interference for Malik, I can’t see him taking the Elite’s reins from them……..and does anybody know what firms Malik actually worked for in the US? Perhaps his foundation and building housing for the poor is a PAID for front by some US agengy funneling money to him for something (maybe even for ole Odinga himself,who knows). But Malik doesn’t need to build any new roads for his people, as CHINA is already taking care of that , buiding their latest super highways and other infulstructure.

      • Note US and Kenyan flag in the background. Where is he?

      • Hmmm. Good question. Where is he? DC? Can’t tell from the trees, but maybe they look tropical. Kenya near the US embassy?

        I re-read the Malik post. Once again struck by the “head game” in the wedding photo. Does look like a pasted on Barry head to me. Why? If there were a switcheroo, surely it took place before the wedding to Mooch? I still have a niggling feeling that David is the one. Know what I mean?

      • Malik appears to be just another Western creation. An African Colonial immitating the worst of both the west and Africa….what Africans are sick of. He seems here to be strutting the majestic pristine elite garb, sporting his sheiky sunglasses. Where’s the money coming from? And again, why would a former INS employee (who used to answere to the Holder Justice department) an associate of his?

        • And Miri, whoever, Check this out, notice the year of this official manual of individuals posted in foreign offices……..go to page 55 and you will find Alton Raymond Baysden in PAKISTaN …the year 1984 ! Interesting Huh?
          you can scroll down on holding the scroll button , but can grab the page to scroll also.http://www.docstoc.com/docs/105680562/ldpd_6260645_007

          • this was at the consulate in Pakistan in administration offices! 1984

            • Oh, yeah. Consulate. Where people go for passports, etc. Wasn’t Ms. SAD there at some point, doing her banking “work”? So many details that I’ve forgotten.

              • From the O Timeline:

                “After November 1984 until sometime in 1988 Stanley Ann works for the Asia Development Bank or ADB in Pakistan.”

                She would likely have known Baysden.

          • Good find, alfy. So Baysden was in Pakistan in the 80s. Hmmm. Did he happen to be there earlier, when Barry visited Pakistan?

  8. Perhaps the idea of 30 survivors was also a ruse, and made part of the cover-up story just like the protestors that were supposedly outside the consulate or mission, the amateur film being responsible for the uprising, and the other lies told to the public. The media certainly was quick to find people in Newtown to talk to, but can’t find the American survivors of Benghazi? I submit they didn’t look because there weren’t any to find.

    Where Are the Benghazi Survivors?
    January 17, 2013 Snips

    Where are the Benghazi survivors? The question is alive and well on Twitter, but the silence of the mainstream media is deafening. The question is obvious, but even the most dogged journalists have not asked. Soon to be former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will be testifying on January 23rd about the terror attack that claimed the lives of Ambassador Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, and Tyrone Woods on September 11, 2012 in Libya. Will anyone ask her the question?
    ~
    In September, it was reported (depending on the source), that there was anywhere between 20 and 30 survivors. But there has been precious little information about who they are. One would think that the survivors could shed light on the situation on the ground. Were any of them involved in the requests for more security? Did any of them see the four murdered Americans before they died? Are they injured? The lack of details about their whereabouts is astounding.

    http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981839112

    • Air Force Brat!

      You know, Bridgette, you brought up an excellent point. Logic would dictate that someone, somewhere, would have seen or heard SOMETHING of (or from) these 30 survivors. But every last one of them has vanished into thin air, and remained invisible for four months? No friends, relatives, business associates, etc., saying a single word on any news program, radio talk show, or Internet blog to let the world know that their loved one(s) are alive or dead? I’d think that there would be no such thing as ONE person being unable to find some way to get word about their status to a living soul on Planet Earth, much less 30 people.

      Something just doesn’t feel right about the whole issue.

      • Nothing feels right about anything to do with Obama and his administration.

        • Rosemary Woodhouse

          That’s because nothing should feel right when a communist coup occurs. Then add suspicion that the “other side”- the supposed “good guys” – are somehow complicit. I used to think all conspiracy theorists were insane. Pass the tin foil hat, please :-)

          BTW, it’s a terribly tedious read but True Believers, a book based loosely on a composite of Dohrn and HRC, & Co., I suspect, is *interesting*.

      • Something just doesn’t feel right about almost the same number of hostages recently killed elsewhere. . . . . .

  9. FBI left in dark about Tunisia’s release of Benghazi suspect, source says
    By Catherine Herridge
    January 17, 2013 Snip

    The FBI was not advised in advance that Ali Ani al-Harzi, a leading suspect in the U.S. consulate attack in Benghazi, Libya, was being released by the Tunisian court, an investigative source familiar with the case tells Fox News. While FBI officials in Washington did not deny the report, a spokesman declined to comment.

    Fox News separately was told that FBI agents got useful information from al-Harzi during a two-hour interrogation of the Tunisian national last month, but there was not enough to rule him in or out of the Benghazi attack.

    Ansar al-Sharia Tunisia, an extremist group with ties to Al Qaeda, released on its Facebook page a video purporting to show al-Harzi as he walked free Jan. 7 after Tunisian authorities cited a lack of evidence.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/16/fbi-left-in-dark-about-tunisia-release-benghazi-suspect-source-says/

  10. Morning Bell: Obama’s Religious Freedom Proclamation
    Amy Payne
    January 17, 2013

    Did you know that yesterday was Religious Freedom Day in America? It didn’t get a lot of attention, since President Obama was busy signing executive orders, but he also put out a proclamation on religious freedom.

    “Because of the protections guaranteed by our Constitution, each of us has the right to practice our faith openly and as we choose,” the President wrote. “As we observe Religious Freedom Day, let us remember the legacy of faith and independence we have inherited, and let us honor it by forever upholding our right to exercise our beliefs free from prejudice or persecution.”

    That’s one heck of a proclamation from an Administration whose actions have attacked religious liberty for Americans.

    ~
    The sad fact is, under President Obama, Americans have been forced to fight for their religious liberty in the courts. More than 110 plaintiffs are fighting the HHS mandate, and that’s hardly the only religious liberty battle being waged.

    http://blog.heritage.org/2013/01/17/obamas-religious-freedom-proclamation/

  11. Doctors Become Obama’s New Secret Police
    January 17, 2013 Snip

    But the most onerous part of Obama’s “executive actions” is the turning of doctors into de facto secret police that make the KGB and Gestapo look like Boy Scouts:
    ~
    So we see that Obama’s “executive actions” are nothing more than a ruse to create what all Marxists desire: a repressive, totalitarian state under constant surveillance. And that requires a disarming of its citizens.

    Hold on to your guns, America.

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/doctors-become-obamas-new-secret-police/

  12. Senator: I’m Afraid Obama Has A King Complex
    January 17, 2013

    Sen. Rand Paul unveils plan to stop assault on 2nd Amendment on Fox News’ Hannity

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/senator-im-afraid-obama-has-a-king-complex/

    [He is a tyrant and thinks he is a King and we are his servants. So glad it is getting noticed. What will you do, Senator? You have the power to investigate him for eligibility. All talkers, and no one with the backbone to do what is required of their oath to uphold the Constitution. That is what would take courage and show honor and allegiance to the U.S. and its legal citizens.]

  13. President Obama said this week that he wants to find a “pathway for citizenship” for immigrants in the United States. Don’t we have that? It’s called the Rio Grande river.
    ~Jay Leno

    Ann Romney, the wife of Mitt Romney, has reportedly turned down a chance to appear on “Dancing With the Stars.” Apparently, she has something called “self-respect.”
    ~Jay Leno

  14. Rubio: Obama “Doesn’t Have The Guts To Admit He Doesn’t Believe In The 2nd Amendment”

  15. la la la…. Porky Pig is spit-in donuts again!!!… YO Christie the key
    word is… ‘Should Be’… O let HIS girls have a say in the gay
    marriage debate vote… remember that one? Just listen up on what was ‘really said’ …. I think your just fighting MAD … go take a walk! we get it.

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/17/christie-nra-ad-on-obama-daughters-reprehensible/

    • The media, as usual, are LYING and spinning and deliberately mischaracterizing that ad. It had to do with their SCHOOL having armed guards, as Zenway pointed out. I’ve seen MOST of the stories point out that it’s “Secret Service” protection the NRA complains about. So the orders and the talking points went down to LIE about the point made in the ad, and the lamestream media comply. Why Christie would take Barry’s side on this is incomprehensible. How long before he converts to the DemoncRAT party? I see NO WAY this guy would be considered a Republican candidate for president. That’s just another example of the same kind of hypocrisy that the NRA is talking about:

      “The Republican governor and father of four said at a briefing Thursday in Trenton that the children of public figures should be off-limits to political attacks.”

      Obama blatantly uses the children of ordinary people in political attacks and yet HIS children and the children of all “public figures” are supposed to be “off limits.” That makes the NRA point perfectly well: They think THEIR children are more important and THEY shouldn’t be USED for politics. But the children of the NON-ELITE are fair game.

      • It’s interesting that it appears very much so that somebody coached these kids to write those letters that Barry highlighted in his little executive order speech. Here’s one: http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/ht_julia_2_dm_130116_vblog.jpg

        “… I know that bills have to be passed by Congress but I beg you to try very hard to make guns not allowed. …”

        She also states that her “opinion” is that it should be “very hard for people to buy guns.” Of course, they likely cherry picked but even so. So much of Barry’s meme there. For example, pointing out that it’s CONGRESS (may as well say the Republicans in the House) who will hold this up and will be to blame if Barry’s not allowed to “make guns not allowed.” Amazing, isn’t it? http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/01/kids-write-letters-to-obama-on-gun-control/

        Do you think they wrote these on their own? Do you think their teachers put them up to it and coached them? Isn’t it amazing how quickly they got those kids rounded up and brought to DC? WHO PAID FOR THIS STUNT, I’D LIKE TO KNOW?

        Just sayin': It seems their teachers need to work on their penmanship and grammar, too. They don’t look like little kids to me. Note how the kid in the first letter shown in the story uses the term “gun violence.” Twice! What a coincidence. Most ten-year-olds talk that way. He seems to think that Barry is omnipotent. Orders him to “STOP gun violence.” With a wave of his hand?

        Another kid writes: “Please don’t LET people own machine guns or other powerful guns like that.” This kid needs more education, even though he’s only 8. Machine guns (and other powerful guns like them) are ALREADY BANNED. Doesn’t he know? Don’t his teachers and parents KNOW?

        More important, it’s not the role of ANY president to “let” people own things. Owning guns, and anything else, is a preexisting, God-given RIGHT. The government and the president, especially, do not hand out RIGHTS. They don’t “allow” or “let” us own anything. We have a RIGHT to own whatever we can earn. The Second Amendment SECURES THAT RIGHT FOR US SPECIFICALLY TO PREVENT THE GOVERNMENT OR THE PRESIDENT FROM INFRINGING ON THAT RIGHT IN ANY WAY. Back to the basics of Civics, please, for this child. Teach him the Constitution and the purpose of the Second Amendment. Teach him that presidents are not kings, rulers, or dictators. But this child doesn’t stop there. He has the rest of Barry’s talking points in there:

        “I think there should be a good reason to get a gun. I think there should be a limit about how many guns a person can own.”

        The entire letter seems dictated to “Grant” except for his post script where he says he feels “really bad about what just happened.”

  16. Anniebo • an hour ago
    I can’t believe how stupid everyone is!!! The NRA was not talking about the Secret Service but was talking about the 11 armed guards that the school has with or without the Obozo kids. Of course the media is not getting this right once again!!!!

  17. John Frank • an hour ago
    You know you live in a country run by idiots…

    When smoking Pot is legal and widely accepted But smoking Tobacco is treated like a criminal offense.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if….
    You can get arrested for expired tags on your car but not for Being in the country illegally.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…
    Your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions Of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more of our money.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…
    A seven year old boy can be thrown out of school for calling his Teacher “cute” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class In grade school is perfectly acceptable.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…
    The Supreme Court of the United States can rule that lower courts Cannot display the 10 Commandments in their courtroom, while Sitting in front of a display of the 10 Commandments.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…
    Children are forcibly removed from parents who appropriately Discipline them while children of “underprivileged” drug addicts are left to rot in filth infested cesspools.

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    You know you live in Country run by idiots if…
    Working class Americans pay for their own health care (and the Health care of everyone else) while unmarried women are free to Have child after child on the “State’s” dime while never being held Responsible for their own choices.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…
    Hard work and success are rewarded with higher taxes and Government intrusion, while slothful, lazy behavior is rewarded With EBT cards, WIC checks, Medicaid and subsidized housing,And free cell phones.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…

    The government’s plan for getting people back to work is to Provide 99 weeks of unemployment checks (to not work).

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…

    Being self-sufficient is considered a threat to the government.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…

    Politicians think that stripping away the amendments to the Constitution is really protecting the rights of the people.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…

    The rights of the Government come before the rights of the Individual.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…

    Parents believe the State is responsible for providing for their Children.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…

    Being stripped of the ability to defend yourself makes you “safe”.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if….

    You have to have your parents signature to go on a school field Trip but not to get an abortion.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…

    An 80 year old woman can be stripped searched by the TSA but a Muslim woman in a burka is only subject to having her neck and Head searched.

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…

    Using the “N” word is considered “hate speech” but writing and Singing songs about raping women and killing cops is considered “art”

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    You know you live in a Country run by idiots if…

    You can write a post like this just by reading the news headlines.

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  18. I STILL want Terry Lankin’s income returned.. how dare we allowed it….
    as… O still ‘plays’ with WTPOTUS heads… making us spin to his tune…
    Today it’s about GUNS etc. etc. as he enters YEAR # 5… ??!!?
    Impeachment/jail Impeachment/jail Impeachment/jail… soon???

  19. http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/17/pro-obamacare-group-sponsoring-symposium-to-train-journalists-how-to-report-on-obamacare/

    Orwellian Coup d’Etat 21 C. in living colors… stamped with the obama logo.
    united nations blue, burgundy and cream with a crescent and full moon.

    • Finally coming out in the open, like cockroaches?

      “The Commonwealth Fund, whose research about the Affordable Care Act was often cited by the White House, awarded a $15,000 grant in 2010 to SABEW for a “a series of education programs focusing on aspects of the nation’s new health-care reform law,” according to Weiss.

      “This sounds like a program to teach reporters to write supportive stories about the health care reform law,” an unnamed reporter told Michelle Malkin in 2010 after Commonwealth awarded the grant to SABEW.

      The Commonwealth Fund’s current president David Blumenthal is a former health care adviser to President Barack Obama.

      The Commonwealth Fund’s recent president Karen Davis boasted about Commonwealth’s role in developing Obamacare, stating, “The Commonwealth Fund marshaled its resources this year to produce timely and rigorous work that helped lay the groundwork for the historic Affordable Care Act, signed by President Obama in March 2010.”

      The Commonwealth Fund issued a study during the 2012 presidential campaign comparing the health care policies of both Obama and his Republican challenger Mitt Romney.”

  20. Rosemary Woodhouse

    slaps self on wrist. Bad RW!

  21. Interesting exercise: Watch O’s speech on takeover of the US (23 eo’s on guns) without the volume on and observe Biden’s body language and eyes. Not sure why, yet, it intrigues me, but something is off…..

    • Any particular point in time?

      • I think starting at around three forty.

      • About 4:10, Biden looks like he’s suppressing a yawn. My first impression was that he looks WAY BORED. Poor Joe. Has to stand through that. Nods his head like a bobblehead (or like Hillary Clinton). Barry’s body language is, as usual, SO ANNOYING. Little tinpot dictator, playing professor, too. He’s so full of himself and there’s so little there to be full of, except BS. Blowhard. Isn’t it cute how the media applaud? So much for objective reporting.

  22. January 18

    TODAY ON THE ALEX JONES SHOW:

    “Paul talks with James Tracy, a communications professor who claims the Newtown Sandy Hook massacre did not happen the way it was reported by the establishment media.”

    Paste url into your media player:

    http://74.202.111.236:46150

  23. I forgot to share this with you, on this conspiracy theory post, but it fits the new post on Barry’s ineligibility and how we supposedly had no “standing” to contest it. Maybe I’ll allude more to it there:

    http://rt.com/usa/news/missouri-highway-truth-department-020/

    Here’s a thought! We “birthers” or WND might try this all over the country.

    9/11 ‘truthers’ now in charge of Missouri highway

    A stretch of road in Missouri is about to become a little cleaner and whole lot more controversial. The state’s Department of Transportation has approved the ‘adopt a highway’ application filed by a 9/11 “truther” group.

    The Missouri Department of Transportation (MoDOT) has accepted paperwork completed by the St. Louis 9/11 Questions Meetup Group, a collective of locals who say they are “concerned about the many disturbing aspects” of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

    On their website, the organization sells t-shirts that read “The 9/11 debacle was an INSIDE job” and another with former-President George W. Bush above a quote from Hermann Göring, Adolf Hitler’s Reich-Marshall.

    Beginning soon, a portion of state road will be fitted with signs advertising the group in exchange for their cooperation in picking up little.

    “We are in the US and everyone has the right to their viewpoint,” Tom Blair, assistant district engineer for MoDOT in St. Louis, tells ABC News.

    This isn’t the first time his department has been tasked with making a decision that demanded a tough call. An application filed by the Ku Klux Klan yielded a legal battle that went almost all the way to the Supreme Court before the KKK was given the go-ahead. Ever since, anyone that is interested in sponsoring a section of roadway is allowed to do so.

    “MoDOT has been there,” Blair tells ABC. “After they won the right to adopt, we modified the process. We had to make sure anyone could be approved.“”

    Even though Missouri has a Republican Congress, it still has a DemoncRAT governor (who wants to run for president). Something tells me that if the “birthers” wanted to adopt a highway, they’d find a way to stop them. BARRY would see to it. He isn’t so concerned with the KKK, but he wouldn’t like signs saying “Adopted by the Committee to Locate Barry Obama’s Birth Certificate”. It’s worth a try, though. :)

    Some guy reacted to the newspaper criticizing the 9/11 Truthers: http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/mailbag/letters-to-the-editor/article-wrongly-denigrates-truthers/article_3ba64477-1236-5a00-8d97-829f67ca4bcc.html

    “I find your “truther” article “Highway cleanup is again co-opted” (Jan. 14) an outrageously snide attack on every person who finds the official version of 9/11 events an utter fairytale. [Snide? We know what he's talking about!]

    The perfect implosions of the twin towers and of Tower 7 also, which was not hit by a plane or on fire, I found initially disconcerting even while being dazed by the sheer horror of that day’s events. … After viewing the photos, I think it is beyond any doubt that the Pentagon was hit with a missile of some sort. A missile would do precisely the damage photographed that morning. So where did al-Qaida get the missile? Personally, I think the 9/11 attacks were planned in right-wing think tanks and carried out by the Bush administration. I think the official 9/11 version of events is a pack of lies that attempts to cover up the murder of American citizens by its government.

    And I will have to continue thinking this until members of the press such as the Post-Dispatch can find the time to go after the truth of what happened instead of denigrating those who are actually seeking it.” [My, oh, my. Join the club 9/11 "truthers". I wonder if this writer is AS CONCERNED with the media finding the "truth" of what happened at Benghazi, Sandy Hook, and Hawaii or Kenya, circa 1961?]

    I suspect that that paper wouldn’t run any letter defending “birthers” so eloquently. That is, if they EVER bothered to report truthfully about the controversy surrounding Barry’s INELIGIBILITY.

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