Birthers Correct FactCheck’s False Claims about Trump

© WTPOTUS 2011

This is in response to an article from FactCheck Blog, “Donald, You’re Fired!”, posted on April 9, 2011.  Excerpts from their article are included for ease of rebuttal–an educational effort.

If FactCheck staffers worked for us, we’d have to say:  “FactCheck, You’re fired–for incompetence, blatant obfuscation, and use of Alinsky tactics!”  When it comes to getting facts straight, FactCheck fails miserably, again, and again, and again.

Point by Point Rebuttal

FactCheck said:

Trump claims the president’s grandmother says Obama was born in Kenya. In fact, the recording to which he refers shows Sarah Obama repeatedly saying through a translator: “He was born in America.”

TRUTH: She said this only after a “long pause” during which a conversation in a Kenyan tongue took place in the background, between several men and Sarah Obama, right after she very clearly stated that she was present in Kenya at his birth. Did these men intimidate her into changing her story?  You be the judge.  Many benefits subsequently flowed to the Obama family, such as a paved road, electricity, and piped-in water after they supported Obama in his endeavors.  Early on, Kenyans did not realize the importance of a US birth for any presidential candidate.

FactCheck produced a supposed transcript of the conversation between Mr. McRae and Sarah Obama.  But there’s no translation of the conversation in a Kenyan dialect that can be heard in the background, between what sounds like several men and Sarah Obama.

FactCheck transcribed another part of the conversation thusly:

Translator: Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii.

McRae: OK.

Translator: Yeah, in 1960 this was Hawaii, where his father, his father was also marrying there. This was Hawaii.

Obama claims that he was born in 1961.  But Sarah said 1960.

FactCheck said:

Trump claims that no hospital in Hawaii has a record of Obama’s birth. Hospital records are confidential under federal law, but Honolulu’s Kapi’olani Medical Center has published a letter from Obama calling it “the place of my birth,” thus publicly confirming it as his birthplace.

TRUTH: The hospital promptly removed that letter from its website, where it had been used for fundraising, after its provenance was questioned and after persons who know stated that if the letter is fraudulent, the hospital would be in violation of the law.  The letter is now hidden from view.

Senator Slom of Hawaii has repeatedly asked to see it but has not been allowed to see it. He is told, but does not know for certain, that the letter is on display in a private office for safekeeping.

The White House will NOT confirm that the letter was written by, signed by, or sent by the POTUS. Numerous articles preceding the revelation of this letter, which named Kapiolani as his birth place, said that he was born at Queen’s Medical–another hospital altogether.

FactCheck said:

Trump insists that the official “Certification of Live Birth” that Obama produced in 2008 is “not a birth certificate.”  That’s wrong. The U.S. Department of State uses “birth certificate” as a generic term to include the official Hawaii document, which satisfies legal requirements for proving citizenship and obtaining a passport.

TRUTH: The “Certification of Live Birth” (COLB) that was posted as a digital image on partisan blogs (Daily Kos and FactCheck) and in a campaign ad (Fight the Smears) is NOT an “official Certification of Live Birth” nor is it a “birth certificate.”  Obama did not produce it; it was released by his campaign, not by Obama.  It’s a digital image.

When originally released, that digital image was modified, because the identification number on it was redacted.  It says at the bottom of the image, “Any alterations invalidate this certificate.”  It was altered; therefore, it is invalid.

It matters not what the State Dept. calls such documents, when they’re in three-dimensional form.  The state of Hawaii did not, in 2007, consider a “certification of live birth” to be the same as a “birth certificate” or a “certificate of birth.”

It also matters not whether the State Dept. would accept a COLB (in 3-D form) to satisfy “legal requirements for proving citizenship and obtaining a passport.”  Natural born citizenship differs from simple citizenship, which is sufficient to receive a passport.

No doubt, Arnold Schwarzenegger has a US passport.  No doubt, today he is  a US citizen.  However, he is not and never can be eligible for the presidency, short of a Constitutional amendment. 

Schwarzenegger is a citizen; he is NOT a “natural born” citizen, which is the standard for POTUS eligibilityAs such, he has the same status as Obama:  Ineligible, not a NATURAL BORN citizen.

The president has NEVER released any officially certified document that proves that he was born in Hawaii, to the parents he claims, at the time and on the date he claims, at Kapiolani or at Queen’s Medical.  He has never produced a “birth certificate”, a “certification of live birth”, a “certificate of live birth”, a “certificate of birth”, or even a “hospital birth certificate”.

FactCheck said:

Trump claims that there’s no signature or certification number on the document released by Obama. Wrong again. Photos of the document, which we posted in 2008, clearly show those details.

TRUTH: The “document” released by the Obama campaign is a digital image that has no certification number and no signature.  Who would accept as a “document” a digital image released to partisan blogs and posted on a DNC-affiliated Obama campaign website? Trump refers to the image released by Obama’s campaign, not to photos on a partisan blog, which have no PROVENance. Has Obama or his campaign ever referenced those photographs on FactCheck blog or given them the nod as being authentic?  If so, kindly, someone, supply a link.

In fact, no photograph that FactCheck produced of the document, which they claim is the source for the digital image posted on blogs and Obama’s campaign website, shows a certifying signature.  They do not show a photograph of the entire back side of the document. Therefore, nobody can say with certainty what that cropped image of a signature block represents.

There is a certification number on photos of the front of the alleged document, which FactCheck blog posted weeks after they posted the original digital image, and only after others (mostly bloggers) questioned the missing certification number.

When bloggers questioned other details, FactCheck blog reduced the size and resolution of the photos and removed all embedded identifying properties.  [See their story and note the difference between the claimed resolution and the actual resolution.]  Is this how a nonpartisan factchecking organization should behave?   Shouldn’t they be more than happy to answer questions?  Shouldn’t they welcome examination of their claims?  What about transparency?  Why have no other members of the media been allowed to see and examine the document that FactCheck blog claims to have photographed?

Why hasn’t Obama presented this “certified document” to judges in any of the court cases addressing his ineligibility?  Why have his lawyers fought discovery, if that COLB is a truthful representation of what’s on file in Hawaii?

FactCheck said:

Trump says newspaper announcements of Obama’s birth that appeared in Hawaii newspapers in 1961 ‘probably’ were placed there fraudulently by his now-deceased American grandparents. Actually, a state health department official and a former managing editor of one of the newspapers said the information came straight from the state health department.

TRUTH: Nobody knows with CERTAINTY that those announcements actually ran in newspapers in Hawaii in 1961. But even if they did, FactCheck blog, please NAME the “state health department official” and the “former managing editor” [Shapiro?  See below.] who said that these announcements came only from the Hawaiian Department of Health (HDOH) and tell us upon what they base their knowledge about how things worked in 1961.

Nobody has ever seen these newspaper announcements in reality. That is, nobody has seen any newspaper. They have seen (again) digital images that are SAID to have come from microfilms at the State Library and at the Honolulu Advertiser.

A factchecker would investigate and then NAME the librarian who copied the images from microfilm at the State Library and sent them to a NAMED individual who sent them to the BLOGS where they first appeared.

A factchecker would locate and publish the underlying evidence that supports the provenance of the images, such as the letter or email making the request, the letter or email accompanying the images, and the receipt of payment for the copies.

A factchecker would investigate and then NAME the person at the Honolulu Advertiser who copied the images from microfilm at the newspaper and sent them to a NAMED person, who released them to BLOGS where they first appeared.

Why haven’t these birth announcement images been presented to any of the judges in any of the ineligibility lawsuits, if they are real? In fact, as blogger jbjd pointed out, the closest these images came to being entered into any court filing by Obama’s lawyers was in a footnote, which has no evidentiary value.

Nobody has stated with certainty that the only way a birth could be listed in those announcements in 1961 was if the HDOH sent the name to the newspaper.

Finally–there’s no PROOF whatsoever that the “son” announced in those newspapers (even if the images are authentic) is the person who is now president.

There’s no PROOF who the mother was.  Barack Hussein Obama (BHO Sr.) had three if not four or more wives.  Any of them could have been the “Mrs.” referred to in the announcements. BHO Sr. had many sons.  Any of them could have been the son referred to in those announcements.  BHO Sr.  never lived at the address listed in the announcements.  No place of birth is identified in those announcements.

So even if legitimate (which is in doubt until someone shows a contemporaneous, 3-D newspaper) the announcements do NOT prove that the POTUS was born in Hawaii.

But if BHO Sr. is his father, Obama is NOT a natural born citizen; so it doesn’t matter where he was born.

FactCheck said:

Trump claims “nobody knew” Obama when he was growing up and “nobody ever comes forward” who knew him as a child. “If I ever decide to run, you may go back and interview people from my kindergarten,” Trump said. Well, two retired kindergarten teachers in a 2009 news story fondly recall teaching a young Barack Obama.

TRUTH: While the usual set of “friends” and “teachers” put themselves forward, repeatedly, to claim that they knew him as a child, numerous discrepancies in their various reports raise suspicions. For example, he attended third grade in two countries, on opposite sides of the world.

Strangely enough, the Dept. of Education in Hawaii cannot locate Obama’s kindergarten records.  A picture was produced supposedly showing Obama in kindergarten.  The story (click link, above) says the caption identifying a certain child as Obama was written on the back of the photo. However, the back of the photo with the caption is conveniently not shown.

The two retired teachers were actually student teachers who said that they did not teach Obama at the same time.  One says she assisted his kindergarten teacher during the first part of that school year, while the other says she assisted his kindergarten teacher during the second part of the school year.   Of course, the records are missing.

One student teacher described him as “heavy build”, which certainly does not sound like the POTUS.  (Look at the photo: He looks thin, not “heavy build”, and his head looks pasted on. A tropical climate, but he alone wears long sleeves.) These women did not know each other at the time but met later, became good friends, compared notes (according to the 2009 story), and were Obama supporters.  His actual kindergarten teacher, if the story is true, was Alice Sakai, who died in 2006, and so conveniently cannot be interviewed.

These two student teachers, Obama supporters and good friends, had the same photograph that was already published in the 2008 story.  They claimed that Alice Sakai sent the photo to one of them; but of course, she cannot confirm that as true, being sadly deceased.

FactCheck said:

The evidence that Obama was born in the U.S.A. is so overwhelming that we haven’t had much to say lately about the sort of bogus claims that Trump repeats. Hawaii’s top official in charge of vital records stated long ago, for example, that the confidential records underlying Obama’s official birth certificate show that he was born in Hawaii and is “a natural born American citizen.”

TRUTH: There is NO EVIDENCE that Obama was born in the U.S.A.  None.  If there were, he would have presented it to the courts. If EVIDENCE existed, a MORAL INDIVIDUAL would present it instead of hiding it.

A MORAL INDIVIDUAL would not have allowed a patriot like LTC. LAKIN to be sent to PRISON.

Obama is not a “natural born American citizen.”  He may be a US citizen now; but he never was a “natural born” citizen of the USA, unless he’s not telling the truth about the identity of his father.  

The father that Obama claims, BHO Sr., was never a US citizen, never an aspiring immigrant, never a permanent resident.  Thus, Obama was (as his website indicated) born a British subject, later a Kenyan citizen, and later still an Indonesian citizen (as AP evidence shows).  Obama’s site also referred to him as a “native” (not natural born) citizen of the USA.

If he was born outside the USA, he was not even a US citizen at birth.  He may now be a naturalized citizen; but if so, he is ineligible for the presidency.  No documentation has been found to verify that he ever changed his status: his foreign citizenships may remain active.

FactCheck said:

But when a leading prospect for the Republican presidential nomination embraces and repeats these spurious claims and groundless conspiracy theories on national television, we are forced to wade into this swamp once again. For details of where Trump goes wrong, and full documentation of the facts, please read on to our Analysis section.

TRUTH: No truly nonpartisan, factchecking organization would use terms such as “spurious”, “groundless conspiracy theories” or “swamp” when describing one side of an argument to be analyzed with an open mind and resolved via the presentation of facts.  By using such terms, they prove their partisan BIAS.

FactCheck said:

Trump echoed claims that are often repeated by those who wish to believe Obama is not a natural-born American citizen.

TRUTH:   We don’t “wish to believe” that Obama is not a natural born citizen; we know that he’s not, unless he’s lying about his father’s identity.  Blood AND Soil.  The two requirements:  Birth on US soil to two US citizen parents.  No allegiance to any other country or sovereign, ever, as documented in a detailed analysis by Leo Donofrio, Esq.

FactCheck said:

The proof of Obama’s citizenship has long been apparent to us and, we think, to any reasonable person with a mind open to evidence.

TRUTH: “Citizenship” is not the issue; natural born citizenship is the issue. FactCheck blog has provided no admissible “evidence” of Obama’s natural born citizenship, to the people or to the courts.  What’s apparent to FactCheck is not apparent to REASONABLE persons with open minds who wish only to see PROOF of Obama’s eligibility, which any serious employer would require.

FactCheck said:

The proof is not just the official birth certificate issued by the state of Hawaii and made public by the Obama campaign in 2008.

TRUTH: There is no such document.  No such document has EVER been presented.  It’s a digital image on a partisan blog and in a campaign advertisementNo official birth certificate has ever been presented to any court of law. Nor has any such document been shown to We the People or to our elected representatives or to journalists in the mainstream media. 

FactCheck said:

As we wrote when we published detailed photographs of that document in our “Born in the U.S.A.” article, that document constitutes legal proof of citizenship sufficient to meet all U.S. Department of State requirements for issuance of a passport.

TRUTH: The photographs are hardly detailed, especially after being downsized.  Notice the conveniently placed shadows and the flares of light that obscure pertinent information.  Is this how a reasonable person would photograph a document?

Requirements for obtaining a passport are not the same as requirements for the presidency, as FactCheck well knows. A passport is available to any “citizen”, including naturalized citizens, who are ineligible for the presidency. They are comparing apples and oranges in a transparent and deliberate attempt to reframe the issue.  The issue is NATURAL BORN citizenship.  See how cleverly they mislead, these so-called, self-proclaimed, “nonpartisan” factcheckers?

FactCheck said:

There also were public announcements of Obama’s birth published in Hawaii newspapers shortly after his birth in 1961.

TRUTH: Nobody has ever produced a newspaper from 1961 that contains that announcement.

FactCheck said:

And the state’s top vital records official, Dr. Chiyome Leinaala Fukino, director of the Hawaii Department of Health, issued a statement in 2009 stating that she had “seen the original vital records maintained on file” and that those records, which are confidential under state law, verify that “Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen.”

TRUTH: The vital records, plural, themselves purport to verify that he was born in Hawaii.  An affidavit “verifies” a claim, when “to verify” is used in the legal sense of the word.  Fukino claimed to have consulted the Hawaiian Attorney General prior to releasing her statement.  It was a carefully parsed press release that does not DESCRIBE the contents of those vital records.   Obama can release these records.  All he has to do is make the request.  But he does not.

That these records, whatever they are, “verify” that Obama is a “natural-born American citizen” is Fukino’s interpretation, which is certainly open to argument.  What does she mean by “natural-born American citizen” as compared to the requirement of the US Constitution, which is “natural born citizen of the United States?”  Is Mexico, arguably, America? Yes, it is.  Is Canada?  Yes, it is.  Is Argentina?  Yes, it is.

FactCheck said:

A reporter for an Indianapolis television station filed this story shortly after Obama was elected in November, 2008. And in it Sarah Obama tells (again, through translators) of her grandson’s first visit to Kenya — when he was 25 years old.

TRUTH: That would have been 1986 or 1987, if this is correct. 1983, according to Sarah Obama in another story.  1985, according to Kezia.  1988, according to Obama and one of his biographers.  Stories vary, as usual.  See our timeline for more details. Sarah also suggested that Obama “passed through” her “hands” as an orphan.

FactCheck said:

It’s true that the rather poor image that the Obama campaign at first made public showed only one side of the document (the official signature was on the reverse) and the campaign unaccountably obliterated the number, for reasons never fully explained. But when we pressed the campaign for a better image, we were allowed to come to campaign headquarters and photograph it for ourselves, which we did.

TRUTH: The “rather poor” FactCheck photos show only one side of that purported document.  Who exactly are “we?”  Will those persons sign affidavits attesting, under oath, that what FactCheck wrote about visiting that document is absolutely true? Will FactCheck provide evidence that the persons who examined the document have the expertise to determine its authenticity? Did FactCheck ever ask the HDOH if they produced and certified that document?  Did the HDOH ever state that they produced and certified that document?  NO, they did not!

FactCheck said:

Had Trump looked at our 2008 article, he would see the signature stamp of Alvin Onaka, certifying that the document is “a true copy or abstract of the record on file,” issued to Obama June 7, 2007 as he was preparing to run for president.

TRUTH: Trump would have seen no such thing because FactCheck did not photograph the entire back side of the supposed document, making it impossible to validate their claims.  There’s no context for the signature stamp and the date shown in their articleWhy didn’t they photograph the entire back side?

FactCheck said:

Furthermore, the serial number (actually a “certificate” number) shows quite clearly in our photos. The number is 151 1961 – 010641, for whatever that’s worth.

TRUTH: It’s not worth much.  Can they explain why the number is out of sequence with the numbers of the Nordyke twins?  Did they even try to explain this discrepancy, as real factcheckers would?

FactCheck said:

We were amused to see Trump make a show recently of producing what he said was his own “birth certificate,” which wasn’t an official document and wouldn’t  qualify him for a passport [a non sequitur].  “It took me one hour to get my birth certificate,” he told the conservative-leaning news site Newsmax [Newsmax is conservative?  Who knew?]. “It’s inconceivable that, after four years of questioning, the president still hasn’t produced his birth certificate.”

TRUTH: FactCheck shouldn’t be amused; they were punked.  Trump did this to demonstrate bias in the mainstream media, many of whom immediately jumped on Trump for presenting a non-official document.  Ironic, considering they’ve never vetted Obama’s “document”, never asked to examine forensically that so-called document.

They might have asked Obama to request another COLB from Hawaii, to be certified and delivered directly to a media source that’s unimpeachable, although who that might be in the age of Obama, is hard to say.

They might have asked him, very simply, why he didn’t produce that document to any court of law. Can there be any explanation other than that it’s “embarrassing” or that it’s not legitimate so,  therefore,  it’s a crime to present it in court?

FactCheck said:

Trump’s “birth certificate” was actually an unofficial “Certificate of Birth” generated by Jamaica Hospital Medical Center (in Queens, N.Y. — not the island nation) stating that Trump was born there June 14, 1946. But because it was not “issued by the city, county or state” as required by the State Department, it does not constitute legal proof of citizenship sufficient to obtain a passport. When confronted with these facts, Trump later coughed up what he said was his official birth record issued by New York City’s Bureau of Records and Statistics. It is a certified photocopy of a “Certificate of Birth” signed by a physician. This one does appear to meet State Department requirements. And so does Obama’s.

 

Caught!

TRUTH:

Trump showed the media an actual 3-D document, and so his evidence is very different from Obama’s lack of evidence.  FactCheck and others in the media went for Trump’s  bait…hook, line, and sinker.

Obama’s COLB is actually an unofficial digital image that would be accepted by NOBODY as proof of identity or birth. Try getting a passport by showing a digital image on a blog.  A photoshopped image at that.

FactCheck said:

It’s also true that at least one news story (which was later corrected) incorrectly reported a different hospital as the birthplace, allowing Obama’s foes to engage in unfounded speculation that family members disagreed.

TRUTH:   Multiple sources stated that Obama was born at Queen’s Medical. A student journalist interviewed Maya Soetoro. He reported that Queen’s Medical Center was the site of Obama’s birth.  He has never, so far as we know, “corrected” that article.  (FactCheck refers to another story.)  It’s insulting to this student journalist to assume that he was lax in his research and reporting, simply because he was a student. There are (or were, prior to Internet scrubbing) MANY citations of Queen’s Medical as Obama’s place of birth.

FactCheck said:

It is also true that Kapi’olani can’t legally release individually identifiable health information without that person’s permission because of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996.

TRUTH:   Kapiolani hospital posted a letter claiming that Obama was born there on a fundraising website, so they already released the information. Illegally?  Why doesn’t FactCheck ask Obama to give Kapiolani permission to release the information, again?

FactCheck said:

It’s also very simple to make a false claim.

TRUTH: They should know.

FactCheck said:

Advertiser, Nov. 9, 2008:  Advertiser columnist and former Star-Bulletin managing editor Dave Shapiro was not at either paper in 1961, but he remembers how the birth notices process worked years later when both papers were jointly operated by the Hawaii Newspaper Agency — which no longer exists. “Those were listings that came over from the state Department of Health,” he said. ‘”They would send the same thing to both papers.”

TRUTH: Mr. Shapiro is a FORMER employee of the newspaper and he admits that he did not know how the process worked in 1961. He spoke only about how it “worked years later.”  While he says that some listings were sent from the Dept. of Health, he did not say that there could be no other source for these listings.

FactCheck said:

Our job is simply to assess evidence and call out falsehoods and factual mistakes when we find them.

TRUTH: Physician, heal thyself.

FactCheck said:

Nov. 1, 2008: Of all the nutty rumors, baseless conspiracy theories and sheer disinformation that we’ve dealt with at FactCheck.org during campaign 2008, perhaps the goofiest is the claim that Barack Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” and therefore not eligible to be president under the constitution.

TRUTH:   If the “facts” that Obama himself has presented regarding his parentage are true, the FACT is that he is NOT a natural born citizen of the US and, therefore, is NOT eligible to be president under the Constitution.

FactCheck (a project of the Annenberg Foundation, for which Obama worked) and others are free to continue to ridicule, in Alinsky fashion, Donald Trump and all “birthers” who seek only to verify that every candidate for the presidency is eligible.  Eligible to SERVE us, We the People.  TRUTH will out.

We close with wisdom from Barack Hussein Obama II himself:

The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth, are people with something to hide.

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81 responses to “Birthers Correct FactCheck’s False Claims about Trump

  1. Fantastic analysis! FactCheck can’t be trusted as a source of truth. An arm of the now leftist Annenberg Foundation, FactCheck is apparently run by leftists and is not non-partisan as they claim.

  2. What a great article!

  3. Look at how FactCheck used the Lefts talking points to supposedly back up their facts which are nothing but hearsay! They did get the last sentence correct in their answer below after maligning anyone who would dare question Obama’s credentials..Oh, he doesn’t have any credentials, now does he! Do see how they hyphenate the words natural born citizen. That does change the meaning as I recall. The hyphen is not used!

    Nov. 1, 2008: Of all the nutty rumors, baseless conspiracy theories and sheer disinformation that we’ve dealt with at FactCheck.org during campaign 2008, perhaps the goofiest is the claim that

    Barack Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” and therefore not eligible to be president under the constitution.

    • Well, he might be a “natural-born citizen” of somewhere and therefore eligible to be president THERE, but not here. We simply don’t know.

  4. Rosemary Woodhouse

    As usual, y’all nail it. Sharing.

  5. Do see how they hyphenate the words natural born citizen. That does change the meaning as I recall. The hyphen is not used!
    EXACTLY !

  6. Remember what Lame Cherry said?
    Obama X marks the spot
    January 19, 2011

    To repeat this point so even Sean Hannity gets it, THE BIRTHERS HAVE BEEN PROVEN CORRECT.

    What this blog is going to expose though in exclusive is what I’m whispering about, and what Neil Abercrombie has no idea of in what he just exposed.

    Only here was it exposed how the communists of America overthrew the Republican form of Government of Alaska for this Obama Marxism, in how they set upon a path of “darkening up” Hawaii from a prosperous white conglomerate state to a welfare fraud state which was registering and STILL IS REGISTERING hundreds of thousands of foreign babies as Americans.

    This is what the birth of Obama has been hiding, and was covered up by Alaskans from the RINO GOP and the Democratic left. There was for a generation a wholesale treachery against America and everyone in government, hospitals and business was in on it. Illegals brought in welfare revenues and brought in increased populations so Hawaii received more power in Congress. It was treacherousness wholesale and if Hawaii admits it, their leaders are going to prison or going to be hung.

    That is what Abercrombie blundered into, in his Obama’s birth was recorded statement.

    See for a legal birth anywhere, just like in a legal death, a medical professional with a witness must certify the document is correct. That means in criminal court terms that people are putting their freedom and job security on the line, if they lie, they go to prison.

    Doctors for these illegals were not about to certify that these babies were born in Hawaii when they were birthed elsewhere or in some pineapple patch, because doing so would have if this ring had ever been disclosed by an FBI investigation wholesale treason against these United States.

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2011/01/obama-x-marks-spot.html

  7. Not only did Obama work for Annenberg Foundation, he got them earmarks as Senator. FactCheck and Snopes are funded by Soros money. $2 million to protect release of birth records, no release of any records and people still stay he is legit and don’t question. Trump knows what to do and he knows that it matters. He will gain the presidency by relentlessly attacking Obama.

  8. So now comes word from the Post & Email that suddenly Hawaii will NO LONGER release copies of the long-form birth certificate, even though they did so just last month. This seems to be an attempt to make procedures agree with what FORMER HDOH official Fukino and current AG spokesperson Wisch said: That the bc exists but nobody can get a copy of it, even Obama himself.

    Demonstrably false, unless Hawaiian DOH officials now intend to break Hawaiian law. Did the legislature secretly change the laws about releasing such copies? Since less than a month ago? Let’s examine the timeframe:

    Trump started asking questions about Obama’s birth records on St. Patrick’s Day–March 17. Now comes this news that suddenly, no more long-form copies given out, even to the individual who’s the subject of the records. Very suspicious timing.

    And we have a full court press of the press, even FOX News, aiding this attempt to give a false impression. It’s a FACT and nobody can get around this one: IF a court issues a subpoena for those “vital records”, which Fukino (but no current Hawaiian official, speaking in official capacity) says are in bound form at the HDOH, they WILL BE COUGHED UP.

    Is this a ploy to do an end run around the many states that are writing laws to require POTUS candidates to show a LONG-FORM to prove eligibility? Do note, too, that someone at the Post & Email says that the short-form (COLB) has suddenly also been changed to REMOVE the fields for mother’s place of birth and father’s place of birth–both items REQUIRED to determine natural born citizen status.

    This IS a conspiracy and it’s not a conspiracy theory. How can it be possible that policies, laws, and actual documents are being customized to suit and protect Barack Hussein Obama II, if that’s his name? How ELSE can anyone explain this?

    Trump has people investigating. He refused to tell Greta Van Susteren (although she tried to make him tell her, several times) WHAT exactly he’s doing in Hawaii. I hope and pray that Trump does NOT back off this. It’s important to our country. And it’s important to the next few elections, because there are others spoken about as potential candidates for the presidency who are not or may not be eligible for the presidency–Jindal and Rubio, for example.

    Even though people may dislike the words of the Constitution, there is one way ONLY to change the requirements in it for eligibility to the presidency: And that’s by Constitutional amendment. We the People, alone, have the power to change our Constitution.

    This cannot stand.

    • someone at the Post & Email says that the short-form (COLB) has suddenly also been changed to REMOVE the fields for mother’s place of birth and father’s place of birth–both items REQUIRED to determine natural born citizen status.

      My God ! Every trick that can be tried ! Amazing ! LOL ! Truly amazing.

  9. Preceptible Future

    The way he sees it. He was born in a manger… Or was that, He was born to a stranger? He is a Im-POTUS-ster.

  10. http://jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com/2011/04/sarah-obama-said-barack-obama-was.html

    This may have been linked elsewhere, but I think it’s pertinent to this post. At the link above, it’s reported that Sarah Obama made an interesting statement. This has been talked about on this blog, too, back when Sarah Obama received that award for working with orphans. This quote from Sarah, “This is a show of blessing from God, since I have always dedicated my time to tend to the orphans. Even the US president passed through my hands.”

    Now why this is interesting is that according to the FactCheck story, Sarah Obama claims to have first met Barack Hussein Obama II when he was 25 years old (or younger, or older, depending upon which tale you believe). However, one thing is common to all tales: He was an ADULT when she met him in Kenya. So how could he possibly have “passed through” her hands, as an orphan, as an infant? His half (or full) brother Mark ALSO works “with orphans.” An interesting FAMILY avocation. Is Mark “giving back” in gratitude for benefits received? Perhaps pertinent to the Jefferson’s Rebels post, Mark does tend to wear hats or head scarves or bandanas; in other words, he hides his head. Just an aside.

    Someone at Free Republic mentioned “the African tradition of passing the baby through the hands is part of the African baptism ceremony.” The post said, “I believe that this is what granny obama was talking about.”

    An interesting possibility, except that Sarah wasn’t supposed to have met the POTUS until he was an adult; and he never claimed otherwise. In fact, he obfuscates about when he first visited Kenya.
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2704063/posts?q=1&;page=51 (comment 59)

    • With all the stories about Obama’s scar now circulating on the internet (that we covered a year ago,) I never noticed that “Mark does tend to wear hats or head scarves or bandanas; in other words, he hides his head.” This fact certainly would add to the conjoined heads theory, as well as the one about the name of one meaning twins!

      • Don’t see any scars on that head unless it’s on the back. Maybe he’s hiding the different hairline, know what I mean?

      • Conjoined twins are always identical twins therefore BO and Mark could not be twins………..However, what really happened to David?

        • Good point. Yes. Whatever happened to David? Oh, wait. Do we know where David is? That boy who everybody confused with Barry when Barry first visited Kogelo, but who supposedly had died in a mysterious motorcycle accident? That boy who was mentored by his and Barry’s strictly orthodox Muslim Uncle Malik? That David? :)

  11. I don’t remember where I got this from back a couple of years ago, I think, but it’s a picture of BO’s COLB and it does have the numbers on it at a side angle.

    The numbers that it appears to be on the COLB:

    151 1961 – 010641

    This is what I see unless I’m not seeing them correctly.

  12. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Starting to sound like the plot line of The Boys from Brazil, no?.

  13. Rosemary Woodhouse

    Cited from the article Miri linked ^^^ ..” an Associated Press story that uncovered documents showing the FBI believed a key piece of evidence was fake.”

    Really? Hmmm why can’t OUR FBI unseal a key piece of evidence which would set our nation free from the tyranny its under?

    The Boys from Brazil

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_from_Brazil_%28film%29

    And a huge heads up. Nothing official, but extremely interesting nonetheless:

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/14/trumpwest-2012-allen-west-not-closed-to-idea-of-being-donald-trumps-vp/

  14. http://drudgereport.com/

    YESTERDAY: TRUMP PRAISES OBAMA; BUSH ‘EVIL’

    Free Speech | April 15, 2011 at 8:58 am |

    http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/88778/-i-ny1-exclusive—i–donald-trump-slams–evil–bush–praises-obama/


    While he had harsh words for the outgoing president, he had a much different opinion of President-elect Barack Obama.

    “I think he has a chance to go down as a great president. Now, if he’s not a great president…” said Trump.

    Trump was then asked if he ever thought he would see an African-American president in his lifetime.

    “They always said 100 years before a black man or woman could be elected president. And the 100 years turned out to be, like, one year. He’s done an amazing job,” said Trump.

    An Associated Press GFK poll released Tuesday shows that a majority of people share Trump’s approval of Obama.

    • First, that story says Trump endorsed MCCAIN.

      Second, you take the quote out of context and cut it off in mid-sentence. This leaves readers with a false impression and is a disservice to our readers. Here is Trump’s entire quote about Obama, with my emphasis added:

      “I think he has a chance to go down as a great president. Now, if he’s not a great president, this country is in serious trouble.”

      And guess what? Barry BLEW his “chance” and he’s not a great president (last night, Trump said he’s the WORST president in history) and SO, TRUMP WAS RIGHT, “THIS COUNTRY IS IN SERIOUS TROUBLE.”

      It just may be that Trump is regretting these words, which is why he’s determined to set things straight now. It certainly sounds as if he bought Barry’s bull about being a post-partisan president who would represent all the people and rise above racial divisions. He believed that Barry would be bipartisan, as he promised in his campaign speeches. TRUMP’S BAD.

      He bought it and now he sees the error of his ways.

      As you can see, what Trump was referring to when he said Obama’s done “an amazing job” was THE ELECTION. HE DID AN AMAZING JOB OF RUNNING HIS CAMPAIGN AND GETTING HIMSELF ELECTED. Trump obviously could not have meant that Obama did an amazing job as president because this statement was made only a week after the 2008 election, when BUSH was still president.

      As for the “majority of people share Trump’s approval of Obama” allegation, here’s what they approved of:
      “A total of 72 percent of those surveyed say they are confident the president-elect will do what it takes to revive the economy, while 68 percent say Obama will be able to carry out his campaign promises.”

      So, their bad and Trump’s bad. They were ALL TAKEN IN BY OBAMA. They thought he’d be post-racial. They thought he’d revive the economy. They believed his bullshit campaign promises. Trump, included, which if anything only shows that maybe he’s not as astute a judge of character as he thinks he is because ordinary folks like us here at We the People HAD BARRY’S NUMBER FROM THE MOMENT WE LAID EYES ON HIM.

      Maybe Trump has never had to deal with pathological sociopaths, but unfortunately a lot of us have had them for bosses or co-workers or family members, so we can spot them a mile away. They’re BULLIES and most of us (but maybe not The Donald) have run into many bullies in our lifetimes.

  15. Trump to Hannity: Newsmax Poll Proves He Can Win
    Friday, 15 Apr 2011 06:49 AM

    Real Estate Mogul Donald Trump emphatically says President Barack Obama has replaced Jimmy Carter “as the worst president in the history of this country.”

    http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/DonaldTrump-BarackObama-budget-SeanHannity/2011/04/15/id/392930?s=al&promo_code=C16E-1

  16. Hawaii Desperately Chasing Escaped Horse

    Hawaii DOH Refusal to Issue Certified copies of Long forms [BC] Illegal
    April 2011
    According to a recent report and an interview reported by Michael Isikoff, the Hawaii government is now claiming that not even Barack Obama himself could make a copy of his long-form birth certificate, much less get a certified copy….

    Attorney General’s Office… has decided to change the policies so they can say that Obama CAN’T disclose his long-form because he can’t even GET a copy of his long-form.

    “Hawaii government officials are desperately trying to give Obama an excuse for not disclosing his long-form birth certificate for the past 2+ years. What they accomplished, instead, is to prove in full view of everyone that they are willing to violate their laws in order to try to silence the growing questions about what he is really hiding and why.”

    http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/hdoh-refusal-to-issue-certified-copies-of-long1.pdf

    See: http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2011/04/

    • Did you catch that Wisch, the AG spokesperson, is a former HOWARD DEAN campaign manager?!!!!

      If somebody pointed that out already, sorry for missing it. Not sorry for repeating it because it SAYS SO MUCH and EXPLAINS SO MUCH.

  17. BECK DENOUNCES “BIRTH CERTIFICATE” ISSUE AND MOCKS THOSE SEEKING THE TRUTH
    04/15/

    Glenn Beck on his radio show stated the following; “Stop with the damn birth certificate! Stop! If you’re going to lose your country– we’re going to lose it on a birth certificate? You have a real opportunity to talk about American exceptionalism … instead you’re going to waste time on the birth certificate? You’re out of your mind if you think that is a winning argument for the next election. You’re out of your mind. You have to go fight the battle on the principles of America!”

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/15/glenn-beck-reality-check-says-youre-part-of-the-problem/

    • Heard Beck make these remarks on his radio show. I still think of him as a hero for fighting against the powerful to get out the info that noone else had the guts to say…..BUT I do not always agree with everything he says….and can’t tell when he is saying what “the others” want to hear (the games people play) and the ODD emblem on his sweater a few weeks ago. Will send if I can find the link that shows pic. Not being on net everyday, so not sure if y’all talked about this or not..just struck me as very strange, with what looked like a masonic emblem ? That song “Games People Play” has been running daily thru my mind ever since the Libya situation started, then that quite confusing ‘last minute SAVE’ (joke) of our guvmint..lol and then that sweater deal, hmmmmm ! Surely, someone here has posted that video clip of song….it seems to fit our situation so very well.

      ****Hey Papoose…..sooooo glad to see you again and your gift of gab has surely been missed. You can say it like noone else ! Keeps me laughing ! Lord knows we need all that we can stand !

      Remember…LOVE, LAUGH & PRAY
      Always pray for our brave men and women who sacrifice so much for US !

  18. Donald Trump at the Florida Tea Party – April 16

    Donald Trump – The Deference Between Obama’s Two Books Is Like Chicken Salad And Chicken Shit

    Tony Rezko, a mobster, in jail now, best friends with Obama, and Obama wasn’t questioned over the land deal. Obama buys the house. Rezko buys the land lot next door. Rezko sells a little bit of the lot. Rezko sold it at undermarket, but he rendered the rest of the land useless. If that was you or me doing the deal, we’d be in jail. Yet Obama is pResident.

    Bill Ayres…a bad guy, terrorist, best friend. The man that wrote that the first book was written by an Ernest Hemingway, the second was written by a high school graduate. His whole aura was built on the first book. The difference between the first book and the second books is like the difference between Chicken Salad and chicken shit!

  19. Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

  20. What’s going to be done when the truth is finally revealed?

    • Hi William, welcome here. Good question. I just hope people are a bit understanding in alot of ways. I think many of those involved may be good people that got caught up trusting the wrong ones. Let’s face it, life is complicated sometimes and everyone makes mistakes. Especially when they happen to rub the wrong elbows. Those wrong elbows are the problem.They set people up in bad situations for power or money or both. They destroy alot of lives. Good lives too. It trickles down to all of the rest of us and these resulting fingerprints cannot be undone. They just weave into history. That is the sad part. Think of all the good that could be done instead with all that energy.

  21. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=288445

    U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., says President Obama has neglected to clearly demonstrate he’s eligible to hold his office, and says it would be simple for him to do so.

    “It’s an interesting issue that has gone on for so long and it’s one that the president could have solved very early on,” Bachmann told Fox News host Judge Jeanine Pirro last night.

    All he had to do is just answer some questions and show his [long-form birth] document and then have people do an attestation that this in fact is a legal document and it’s over, it’s done. And I think the president has neglected to focus on answering that question for people, and that’s why a lot of people still have it lingering in their minds. None of us can prove, none of us can do attestation. Only the president and someone who is legally tasked with attesting to the validity of that document can do that, and I think that’s what the president should do.”

    • The issue is NATURAL BORN CITIZEN Michelle. Who is going to open this issue and not keep it on the birth certificate that would only show his lineage and if he was born on the US soil. If BO Sr. was his father as he says, and the birth certificate would prove that, then he is still ineligible. There is no way around the Constitution for him. The Constitution is in black and white. Is Obama?

      Why won’t politicians bring up the NBC issue now as they did with McCain pre election? Is the NBC issue to be silenced?

      • “Why won’t politicians bring up the NBC issue now as they did with McCain pre election? ”

        The repubs won’t bring up the NBC issue or press for indictments of BO and his co-conspirators untill after the dems renominate BO because they don’t want to hand the Presidency to Hillary.

        • It seems they would hand it to somebody anyway even after he is nominated. So I don’t see what the difference is. Other than it being a reflection on the Democrats for renominating a non qualifying person once again. How would they hand the presidency to Hillary? Who would think she can win when she has supported all of the shenanigans and the Marxists during Obama’s term? She has run the foreign policy and it is in the toilet, so who thinks she has done a great job. All of the Wikileaks are about foreign policy and she is the head honcho. Can anyone name one country that is doing better and has better relations with the USA since Hillary took over as SOS? How about Obama..can anyone name one?

          • Bridgette’s right. Hillary is complicit with Obama and has been since she capitulated. Don’t think for a moment that she didn’t capitulate. The Clintons don’t lose unless they want to because there’s something in it for them. Something bigger and better. But Hillary is done as a POTUS candidate because she’s supported Obama for over two years. And now the shenanigans with those birth announcements. Who would vote for her after, as Bridgette says, her pitiful showing as Secretary of State? How’s that war in Libya going, Hil? How about the fiasco in Egypt? How about the price of gasoline? She’s as big a Marxist as Obama and she’s in bed with Soros, too. Remember, Hil’s from Chicago–she’s REALLY from Chicago. And then there’s all the dirt from the Clinton years to dredge up. Been there, done that. NO thanks. The people want new faces, new blood, REAL people, real patriots.

  22. http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/16/is-there-one-honest-politician-in-hawaii/

    Sharon Rondeau is going to interview Senator Slom of Hawaii about the sudden change in HDOH procedures about NOT issuing long-form birth certificates, when they did so only last month.

  23. This morning on Fox & Friends, Steve Doocy said that Obama could end the controversy about Obama’s BC, ….” Just show it to us.”

  24. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2706255/posts

    “The investment and bailout funds are Soros funds except for Deutsche Bank. The Donald would have gone bankrupt without Soros bailout.”

    17 posted on Sunday, April 17, 2011 1:52:34 PM by jimbo123

    • FALSE Information: Where does it say he would have gone bankrupt? No where. Where does it say that Soros bailed him out? No where.

      This was posted by an Obot at Free, Jimbo, who sides with Soros. If you read his comments, it is understood where he is coming from. …the progressive side. This is unsubstantiated information. There was no bailout. There might have been a loan, but loan documents were not presented. There is a huge difference between a loan and a bailout. Soros isn’t even mentioned in the article nor is his company. Fortress is not his company nor is Deutsche Bank AG.

      “The shiny glass skyscraper is one of the few that the brash Mr. Trump developed without partners. The situation also puts pressure on one of the project’s major lenders, Fortress Investment Group LLC.”

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122523704293478077.html

      • I was wondering how long it would take you to get to this one..LOL !
        btw, Who is Fortress ?

          • Fortress Investment Group LLC was founded as a private equity firm in 1998 by Wesley R. Edens, a former partner at BlackRock Financial Management, Inc.; Robert Kauffman, a managing director of UBS; and Randal A. Nardone, also a managing director of UBS. Fortress quickly expanded into hedge funds, real estate-related investments and debt securities, run by Michael Novogratz and Pete Briger, both former partners at Goldman Sachs. In a video interview, Novogratz discusses in detail the growth of Fortress and the keys to developing Global Macro Funds.

            Fortress Investment Group’s investments grew rapidly, with its private equity funds netting 39.7% between 1999 and 2006.[3]

            As of June 30, 2010, Fortress Investment Group had four core businesses totaling approximately $41.7 billion of assets under management: Private Equity, Credit, Liquid Markets and Traditional Asset Management (Logan Circle Partners was acquired in April 2010).

            [edit] Portfolio companiesIn 2006, Fortress-managed Funds acquired Canadian ski resort operator Intrawest. Intrawest is North America’s largest operator of ski resorts and also operates luxury adventure travel brands, including Abercrombie & Kent.

          • Oh boy was right…I have found part of ths before………

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abercrombie_%26_Kent

          • Abercrombie & Kent began in East Africa, where Geoffrey Kent was born while his parents, Valerie and Colonel John Kent, were on safari. Though British by birth, the Kents were drawn to the freedom and beauty of life in Africa, qualities that made a powerful impression on Geoffrey, who lived on the continent for most of his childhood. In 1962, he and his parents founded Abercrombie & Kent to allow visitors to experience Africa without compromise to either comfort or authenticity. The company’s beginnings were modest; as Geoffrey Kent fondly remembers; their first safaris were conducted with little more than “a Bedford truck and my mother’s sterling silver ice bucket.”[3]

            In 1967, Colonel and Mrs. John Kent retired from active participation in the company, leaving their son to become Managing Director. Recognizing the tremendous business opportunity in international travel, Geoffrey Kent decided to expand A&K’s signature style of travel. In 1969, he began opening additional companies in Africa; in 1971 he met Jorie Ford Butler of Oak Brook, Illinois. She became a partner in the business and together they expanded A&K beyond the African continent. Abercrombie & Kent became a worldwide group of companies, first opening an office in London, then in Oak Brook, Illinois, followed by Melbourne, Australia.

  25. http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/04/15/obamas-fraudulent-social-security-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-53524

    Rather than repeat myself, I want to point you towards a comment I just made on another thread. It concerns an ad that a group of “black” publishers want to run, to mislead about the definition of “natural born citizen”. Interesting that it appears that they are ready to accept that Obama was born outside the US. However, it just came to me that maybe he’s prepared to admit birth in Hawaii prior to statehood? Is that it? Will he pretend to suddenly be surprised to learn that he’s older than he thought? It never ends, does it?

  26. From New York
    Editorial: The facts trump ‘birther’ claims
    Apr. 21, 2011

    The Annenberg Public Policy Center’s FactCheck.org rejects a whole series of statements by Trump and others questioning the president’s birth and legitimacy to hold office.

    From an April 9 post: “The evidence that Obama was born in the U.S.A. is so overwhelming that we haven’t had much to say lately about the sort of bogus claims that Trump repeats. Hawaii’s top official in charge of vital records stated long ago, for example, that the confidential records underlying Obama’s official birth certificate show that he was born in Hawaii and is ‘a natural born American citizen.’ ”

    The site offers a falsehood-by-falsehood refutation of the birthers’ case and an admonishment for Trump…..

    http://www.lohud.com/article/20110421/OPINION/104210370/Editorial-facts-trump-birther-claims?odyssey=nav|head

  27. Snopes Exposed
    June 21, 2010 From Blogsphere

    Snopes receives funding from an undisclosed source. The source is undisclosed because Snopes refuses to disclose that source. The Democratic Alliance, a funding channel for uber-Leftist (Marxist) Billionaires (George Soros etc.), direct funds to an “Internet Propaganda Arm” pushing these views. The Democratic Alliance has been reported to instruct Fundees to not disclose their funding source.

    For the past few years http://www.snopes.com has positioned itself, or others have labeled it, as the ‘tell-all final word’ on any comment, claim and email. But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com. It is run by a husband and wife team – that’s right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers. It’s just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby. David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website about 13 years ago and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/83/370/Snopes_Exposed.html

  28. LEAKED: Obama Executive Order Intends to Implement Portions of DISCLOSE Act.
    April 19, 2011 –

    Says our source: “They lost in the Supreme Court, they lost in Congress, they lost at the FEC, so now the president is just going to do it by edict.”

    An impeccable source has provided me with a copy of a draft Executive Order that the White House is apparently circulating for comments from several government agencies. Titled “Disclosure of Political Spending By Government Contractors,” it appears to be an attempt by the Obama administration to implement — by executive fiat — portions of the DISCLOSE Act.

    This was the bill introduced last year by Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Chris Van Hollen to overturn the Supreme Court’s decision in Citizens United v. FEC. The bill had onerous requirements that were duplicative of existing law and burdensome to political speech. It never passed Congress because of principled opposition to its unfair, one-side requirements that benefited labor unions at the expense of corporations.

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/leaked-obama-executive-order-intends-to-implement-portions-of-disclose-act/?singlepage=true

    • Unbelievable! So bids for contracts will now be determined by party. Forced private funding or contribution details by the White House to win a government contract!

      From the White House
      April 13, 2011. Snips

      Sec. 2 Every contracting department and agency shall require all entities submitting offers for federal contracts to disclose certain political contributions and expenditures that they have made within the two years prior to submission of their offer.,

      Disclosure shall include:
      a. All Contributions or expenditures to or on behalf of federal candidates, parties or party committees made by the bidding entity, its directors or officers, or any affiliates of subsidiaries within its control,

      Download the PDF here. http://pajamasmedia.com/files/2011/04/Draft-EO-Govt-Contr-Disclosure.pdf

  29. It’s Official: China Will Be Dumping US Dollars
    Phoenix Capital Research on 04/20/2011

    In case you missed it, earlier this week China announced that its foreign currency reserves are excessive and that they need to return to “reasonable” levels. In politician speak, this is a clear, “we are sick of the US Dollar and will be taking steps to lower our holdings.” Remember, the US Dollar is China’s largest single holding. And China has already begun dumping Treasuries (US Debt).

    This comes on the heels of China deciding (along with Russia) to trade in their own currencies, NOT the US Dollar.
    Not to mention the numerous warnings Chinese politicians have been issuing to the US over the last 24 months. In simple terms, China is done playing nice and is now actively moving out of US Dollar denominated assets. This is the beginning of the US Dollar’s end as world reserve currency.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/it%E2%80%99s-official-china-will-be-dumping-us-dollars

  30. Yes. I agree with all that you are saying. But, if it is revealed he is ineligible to be President, what will happen? Will he be impeached? Will he be forced to resign?
    Now for the icing on the cake. What of all the legislation he has signed into law? Will they be invalidated because of his ineligibility, or what?

    • What of all the legislation he has signed into law? Will they be invalidated because of his ineligibility, or what?

      Not a good thought William.

    • He SHOULD be simply removed because to be impeached, you have to be president in the first place. As for what happens to the legislation he signed, I guess that’s a problem for the Congress and the SCOTUS, which has been evading the question of eligibility but which, by doing so. has made the situation many degrees of magnitude worse. He should be forced to resign NOW, imho. Before the truth comes out. By those who know the scam he’s pulled. And then all the complicit ones should be outed and forced to resign, too. We have a Constitution and those who are sworn to uphold it, when they do not, should be held to a much higher standard.

      • As for what happens to the legislation he signed, I guess that’s a problem for the Congress and the SCOTUS, which has been evading the question of eligibility but which, by doing so. has made the situation many degrees of magnitude worse.

        They are responsible. They did make things much worse. Did they plan it that way ? Like a little game.

  31. Thought this was worth posting. I had not seen this comment. Good for the file:

    http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaCOLB.htm

    The same day, June 12, 2008, the Daily Kos posted the now-infamous Certification of Live Birth (COLB) image along with a cover story. Kos received 648 comments in a span of only 24 hours (the first 644 were about the most insipid, lame, and mindless reactions ever accumulated in one place).

    The vast majority of the comments consisted of derogatory comments about John McCain and his eligibility issue:

    HOWEVER, there was one, brave Kos commenter who identified all of the key anomalies in the COLB image and had the stones to question it’s authenticity. Her screen name is “AsperGirl” and her comment was #643, or one of the last five comments to be posted.

    Why is this significant?

    Because I believe that her comments hit too close to home. I believe that she struck a nerve, and that’s why the comments section was closed off to new ones less than three hours after he post.

    Here are her comments, and they serve as a testament to those loyal to the truth:

    Birth Certificate is an Obvious Fake (0+ / 0-)

    Sorry to disabuse you folks, but this birth certificate on dailykos is an obvious fake.

    The fake “birth certificate” just appeared Thursday morning on dailykos without any reference as to who released it or where it came from.

    There is a link from the FightTheSmears website to “the truth” posting on MyBarackObama.com to it without any reference. (i.e. there is no “this is Barack Obama’s birth certificate provided to dailykos by person xxx of the Obama campaign”)

    There is no provenance explaining where the “birth certificate” came from. In Hawaii, birth certificates aren’t publicly available and reporters’ requests for one have been ignored for months.

    There is no explanation as to whom vouches for its origins or its authenticity.

    The certificate number is blacked out. Why?

    There are image artifacts consistent with forgeries and image processing. It’s not a real, unprocessed scan of a birth certificate.

    It’s not certified. Hawaii state code provides that certificates issued by the department of health be certified:

    “§338-13 Certified copies. (a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof. (b) Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original,…”

    This certificate is what the Hawaii DOH calls a “Late” Certificate of Birth, and it is not an original Birth Certificate for a birth recorded near the date of actual birth. In Hawaii, anyone can claim they were born there and submit the evidence years after the birth to obtain a late “Certificate of Birth”.

    http://hawaii.gov/

    “Who is Eligible to Apply for Late Registration? As provided by law (HRS §§338-15, 338-29.5), the following persons may apply for late registration: Any person born in Hawaii who is one year old or older and whose birth has not been previously registered in Hawaii, or that person’s parent, guardian, next of kin, or older person acting for that person and having knowledge of the facts of birth may request the registration of a late certificate of birth.

    Does the Obama campaign have a statement on this uncertified “birth certificate?”

    Isn’t this Obama’s “birth certificate” issue getting to be kind of strange by now?

    How can a man run for President without disclosing his birth certificate?

    Why does an anonymous, no-provenance, obviously fake scan of an uncertified birth certificate appear on DailyKos, a fanatically pro-Obama blog?

    Why won’t the Obamas or the Obama campaign just formally and transparently release a certified copy of Barack Obama’s birth certificate?

    “It’s like these guys take pride in being ignorant.” – Barack Obama

    by AsperGirl on Fri Jun 13, 2008 at 08:05:30 AM PDT

    • Wow. That was worth repeating and AsperGirl was ahead of the pack there. Do notice that it’s STILL TRUE, two plus years later, that “There is no explanation as to whom vouches for its origins or its authenticity.” NOBODY vouches for its origins or its authenticity. There still is no official statement from Obama concerning that COLB that was on Daily Kos, a “fanatically pro-Obama blog.”

      • That has concerned me, that he could claim that he wasn’t responsible for the erroneous information that was put on line. Then I thought about it, and Robert Bauer put that footnote in his Berg lawsuit about the COLB being on the internet, so that would seem to be complicity.

        • No member of the press has ever asked Barry himself if the COLB is authentic, legitimate, certified by Hawaii, and HIS.

          Obama himself has never made any public claim regarding the authenticity of that COLB.

          Obama himself has never made any public claim regarding whether or not Kapiolani Medical Center is “the place of my birth”.

          Has Obama himself ever made any public claim regarding who specifically was his biological mother and biological father?

          Has Obama himself ever made any public claim regarding being born a British subject?

          Has Obama himself ever made any public claim regarding how many times he was adopted?

          Has Obama himself ever made any public claim regarding how many passports he has held, and for which countries?

          Has Obama himself ever made any public claim regarding which country’s passport he travelled under when he went to Pakistan in 1981?

          • Good points and good questions. I don’t recall him EVER stating that online COLB is his, accurate, or sent to him from the HDOH. He always refers to “my mother” and “my father” and the “white girl from Kansas”. Even in “his” book, he talks about his mother, although I have only read excerpts. The “White House” specifically won’t comment about that Kapiolani letter. He has specifically said that he was born in Hawaii. Even if his “mother” is that unnamed white girl from Kansas, every adopted child usually calls his adoptive mother his “mother”. It’s interesting that on the cover of the first version of his book, there were different photographs, and one featured Stanley Armour Dunham. What I would like to see is that first edition of the book. The second edition, published after 2004, is the one with new information, including the introduction/preface that contains the sly disclaimer about how it’s, basically, FICTION with “composite characters”, made-up conversations, and manipulated timeframes.

          • No Redpill, good point. He had OTHERS speak for him. Convenient no ?

  32. http://israelinsider.com/Articles1/Politics/12939.htm

    Some of these oddities surfaced in Israel Insider’s previous article on the subject, but new comparative documentary evidence presented below, and official verification obtained by Israel Insider from a senior Hawaiian official, provides the strongest confirmation yet.

    An authentic Hawaiian birth certificate for another Hawaiian individual has since surfaced which, using the same official form as the presumptive Obama certificate, includes an embossed official seal and an authoritative signature, coming through from the back. Obama’s alleged certificate lacks those features, and the certificate number referencing the birth year has been blacked out, making it untraceable.

    Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health, told Israel Insider: “At this time there are no circumstances in which the State of Hawaii Department of Health would issue a birth certification or certification of live birth only electronically.” And, she added, “In the State of Hawaii all certified copies of certificates of live birth have the embossed seal and registrar signature on the back of the document.”

  33. Do you know that Obama’s Social Security number is a fraud also? The number was first issued to a person born in 1890. Not only that but it is from the state of Connecticut, not Hawaii.
    It was issued when Obama was 15 years old and living in Hawaii! Now how did he do that?

  34. With the newest “Certificate of Live Birth” take a CLOSE look along the top and left side of the image. Do you notice anything wrong with the patterning in the security paper?
    Why is there no distortion or change where the page bends?

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